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Published Date: 24 March 2008
BUSES and cars are coming under attack from stone throwing children in Leith with potentially life-threatening consequences, police and residents have warned.
Police in the area say there has been a marked increase in the number of recent incidents.

Seen as a prank, the consequences could be life-threatening, the youngsters are being told.

Officers have also urged parents and members of the public to
step up their efforts to help catch the youngsters and nip the problem in the bud.

Community beat officer John Pennycook told residents: "Efforts are continuing to tackle crime and antisocial behaviour on public transport, however, there has been a rise in youths throwing stones and other missiles at passing buses and vehicles.

"Many of the youths responsible for throwing stones at passing vehicles may perceive this as a prank as they don't appreciate the consequences of their actions.

"These crimes are extremely dangerous. The community can help with any information relating to these incidents."

It is understood the problems are worse at lunchtimes and home time on popular bus routes such as Leith Walk, Great Junction Street and Easter Road.

The police have introduced a number of measures to tackle the problem on a city-wide basis, including the implementation of a decoy bus, disguised like every other, but containing plain clothes policeman who look specifically for missile throwers. These vehicles go on hot-spot routes followed by undercover officers in an unmarked car, who are able to arrest individuals lured to the decoy bus.

Leith councillor Gordon Munro – whose brother is a bus driver – said the problem was only going to be addressed by engaging with the stone throwers and their parents.

He said: "It is a problem, not just in Leith but city-wide. It's not only buses, I've had complaints from residents in Newhaven as well about kids throwing stones at cars because it's quite easy for them to scarper quickly on to the cycle path.

"The only way we can solve this is by firstly making it clear to the parents that they have to know what their child is up to, and if there are reports of antisocial behaviour, they should ask their children if they know anything about it.

"Secondly we have to engage with younger people. In December there was a problem with kids egging the number 22 bus, but that's not happening now largely because we engaged with them."

A spokesman for Lothian Buses condemned the stone throwers who cost the company thousands of pounds every year.

He said: "Throwing any kind of missiles at a moving bus really is a mindless and stupid act. Its consequences could be life threatening to both drivers and passengers."

Last July children as young as 12 pelted First buses in the Gorebridge area.

In October 2005, First was forced to withdraw 15 new buses from evening services running through Midlothian following a spate of vandalism in the Mayfield area.





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  • Last Updated: 24 March 2008 10:13 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Transport , Youth crime
 
1

Americanbob,

Edinburgh 24/03/2008 11:16:47
Whilst decrying the behaviour and mentality of kids who carry out such attacks surely some blame must lie with the Council and TIE who's contractors are providing so much ammunition for these vandals. Stop digging up roads at random and leaving masses of rubble lying around, that might help!!
2

Griffe,

24/03/2008 11:50:24
Bring back corporal punishment.
3

happyhibbie,

The Inch, Edinburgh 24/03/2008 12:21:14
Give the SNP government time. I'm sure they'll find some draconian way of dealing with stone-throwing children.
4

John Knox furr First Meenister,

High St, Embra 24/03/2008 12:21:34
Fantastic comment Bob. Thought the trams must be to blame somehow.
5

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24/03/2008 12:27:30
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6

southrenhibbie,

basingstoke 24/03/2008 12:36:44
is it the fact that the kids have nothing to do as everything is so expencive !!
7

Jenny MacArthur,

24/03/2008 12:46:22
That's more like it (1). Make us all laugh with your moronic and obsessive creativity in turning any story into an anti-tram whine.
8

JLF,

24/03/2008 13:01:34
Give the SNP government time. I'm sure they'll find some draconian way of dealing with stone-throwing children.

oh no, lets not punish the poor wee mites!
9

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24/03/2008 13:05:12
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Fifi la Bonbon,

24/03/2008 13:07:03
Ma - Some councillor said I should ask you if you have anything to do with throwing stones at buses. It was in the paper. Have you?

Darren - no, Ma.

What about you, Beyonce-Marie - no, Ma.

Ma - that's all right then.

11

Dragonlord,

24/03/2008 13:18:31
Police are too busy with their new speed camera toys to worry about catching these kids. Still, even if the kids fling themselves at the police, the courts will let them off.
12

Hmmmm,

Glasgow 24/03/2008 13:42:49
"Secondly we have to engage with younger people. In December there was a problem with kids egging the number 22 bus, but that's not happening now largely because we engaged with them"

Correct, they're throwing rocks now.
13

Davie Lad,

Edinburgh 24/03/2008 14:49:10
#1 You are a fool. What has road digging got to do with the type of trash that throw stones at buses have to do with anything? Vermin like that will find ammuntion from anywhere.
14

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24/03/2008 15:08:32
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15

nipper,

burntisland 24/03/2008 15:18:34
send for columbo
16

JML,

24/03/2008 15:23:47
There's a gang of wee sh*tes doing the rounds of Great Junction Street/North Junction Street and Lindsay Road that have obviously escaped the notice of Officer Pennycook. They're doing more damage to buildings and windows than to cars or buses. You can't approach them or you'll be bottled or knifed. I've had to throw them out of my stair more than once. We've replaced the lock but now the new weekend entertainment is trying to break it again. Residents in the area have had enough. Officer Pennycook - maybe you should "engage" with these little stains before someone takes the law into their own hands..
17

Smackhead,

Edinburgh 24/03/2008 15:50:36
#16
I am with you. Best to hit these types head on. Meet violence with violence until the Plod can organise things then thats the way it is for me.
18

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 24/03/2008 16:40:50
#11:

Well said dragonlord.

Maybe instead of concentrating on how many motorists they can rip off in order to make money, they should start adressing issues that really do cause a danger on our roads.
19

Robin Bankes,

Culross 24/03/2008 17:01:21
>2 Bring back corporal punishment.

What a sad reflection upon society that some still advocate corporal punishment.
I say get rid of the touchy-feelies and hang the buggers!
20

Evia,

24/03/2008 17:35:47
10 Fifi la Bonbon

Good post.

I'd be willing to engage with the little t*ds whilst wielding the birch, or cat-o'-nine-tails. Into the bargain, I would treat their uncaring parents to a dose of the same.
21

joppa jock,

Huntingdon 24/03/2008 19:45:57
The do-gooders have brought this upon society as they have prevented any serious measures to be taken against young hooligans for too many years. It's got to be stopped as soon as they walk into their primary school. The mere sight of the tawse hanging at the side of the teachers desk was sufficient for her to keep control of classes with over 40 pupils. The bonus was that every child was able to read and write and capable of finding employment by the time they left school.
22

Gopher,

edinburgh 24/03/2008 20:09:19
How is the decoy bus disguised? NOT IN SERVICE or is it a 22?
23

Julian,

EDINBURGH 25/03/2008 02:10:04
#21 Joppa Jock,

And just how long have these do-gooders been exercising their influence? I remember much of the same stone throwing going on 30 years ago on a regular basis.
24

Julian,

EDINBURGH 25/03/2008 02:12:21
#1,

Surely TIE must take most of the blame. As well as the stones they keep lying around, they are responsible for all the roadworks, causing buses to be stationery more of the time, thereby making them an easier target.
25

fmuldar,

New Jersey, USA 25/03/2008 03:21:31
I can't believe what I am reading!
Put Police on foot & on Bikes in the problem areas along the bus routes!
I don't mean one or two--there should be a couple of dozen police assigned too courtail this "Stupidity"
Don't "Talk" too their parents! Make them "PAY" for any damage their "Darlings" do too either buses or autos. And as they do in NYC--make these "A__H____" clean every bus in the main yard of the bus company--both inside & out! Is this not what the Crime Camera's are suppose too pick up?
26

Jingsitsme,

EDINBURGH 25/03/2008 11:30:06
It's not just Leith and it has been a problem for a while but the police don't seem to do much.

What can they do? If they underage they just get a talking to and let off.

It's ourselves to blame for not having stricter laws for dealing with underage kids who just will not behave.
27

Annoyingboi,

Emptybra 25/03/2008 13:39:20
Place is a bloody liability
28

GGz,

Leith 25/03/2008 16:11:45
I've phoned Leith Academy on two occasions to complain about being hit by objects being thrown at me on the bus, on both occasions I was told that they had never had any complaints made about the behaviour of their pupils on buses.
29

COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 28/12/2008 03:17:33
PLEASE.NO.MORE.STORIES.ABOUT.PUNKS.KICK.THERE.ASS

 

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