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Published Date: 24 March 2009
THE Scottish Government has been urged to curb the number of stag and hen parties renting flats in Edinburgh city centre and causing a nightmare for residents.
SNP Lothians MSP Shirley-Anne Somerville said city centre residents had complained of excessive noise and disturbance from flats being marketed for pre-wedding celebrations.

Along with Labour's Edinburgh Central MSP Sarah Boyack, she wants the Gov
ernment to consider tightening regulations on short-term lets.

She said: "The number of stag and hen weekends in the city centre has risen rapidly in recent years, and it's not just the party-goers that are facing headaches.

"Many local residents in the neighbouring flats are faced with excessive noise night after night.

"The occasional noisy weekend is one thing, but action has to be taken if antisocial behaviour becomes a regular problem."

She said people could phone the city council's 24-hour noise nuisance hotline. "That means the particular problem is dealt with immediately, but we need to look at whether there is something wrong with the system which could be tightened."

Ms Boyack said the problem arose because of loopholes in houses in multiple occupancy regulations, which meant short-term lets were not covered.

She said: "I have heard of situations where ten people have been allowed to stay in three- bedroom flats, partying into the night with little regard for other residents."

She said she had been pressing both the SNP Government and the city council to act.

Bruce Borthwick, a retired vet whose property off the Royal Mile has been blighted by stag and hen parties, said: "We've had problems with large groups of people coming who have absolutely no responsibility to their neighbours.

"I think the council made a cock-up because they didn't even think how unpleasant things could be for residents. We've had groups of ten staying in a nearby flat designed for two people, who came knocking on our door and windows thinking we're the concierge service."

David Beckett, SNP councillor for the city centre, said he was getting a growing number of complaints from people about flats let out to stag or hen parties.

He said: "It's a real issue in the city centre and West End. People are being kept up all night by these parties. These are people who have come to Edinburgh just to party, they are drinking till 5am or 6am and they're loud and boisterous. It's noisy and a bit intimidating as well, because there are so many people."

A Scottish Government spokeswoman said: "Councils can already take action against antisocial behaviour caused by stag and hen parties, including using noise nuisance powers."

Anyone suffering noise disturbances can contact the Night Time Noise Team on 0131-311 3131.





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  • Last Updated: 24 March 2009 11:51 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
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1

buzzer,

hame 24/03/2009 11:16:29
Just returned from Manchester on a stag weekend which went well partly as we were staying in accomodation in a hotel away from the local communities. We were told by locals that most stag and hen parties are ruining their nights out for local people and residents had to put up with mess and noise into the small hours. Therfore keep all revellers away from the local residents.
2

Observer,,

Glasgow 24/03/2009 11:23:28
This isn't just a problem in Edinburgh it happens in Glasgow too, you have these party flats right in the middle of blocks with old people in them. It's all very well advising the old folks to call the police or the noise abatement people, they're too scared to do that. This isn't being a party pooper or a nanny, these parties are not suitable for residential blocks where the house next door can have young children trying to sleep or a wee granny sitting petrified. I don't think you should be allowed to rent a flat for two days or whatever, that's ridiculous.
3

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 24/03/2009 12:09:51
Spoilsports,just because they are past it,or dont get invited.
4

JFW,

Edinburgh 24/03/2009 12:13:58
I've got one of these flats next door but have only had one problem as the owners are very responsible and live nearby but in general the council does need to clamp down on this type of behaviour as city centre residents really do have to put up with far too much of it.
I have to say that the council's noise team is completely useless. I have far more trouble anyway with the large number of mainly student HMO's nearby and the best the noise team can do for you is that they'll come into your bedroom with a microphone to check the sound level before they do anything. Wonderful approach for intermittent noise that you get from these parties and, because of this being even more disturbing that the actual parties, most people obviously won't bother. Unless the noise is constant and long term and above a certain level in your house at all times (and I've no doubt that level is set high enough that most parties won't hit it even though it still prevents you from sleeping) then this is useless. I've had the council turn up to hear the noise blaring from the front windows of a flat at 3am but because it's more muted at the back of the house in my bedroom they do absolutely nothing. If the party goers also decide to make the noise in the street then that is also not the council's problem. Their team is virtually useless for 90% of noise disturbance in the city and they themselve say most of the time that I need to contact the police, who of course are far too stretched on a Fri or Sat night to deal with noise.
The council cause these issues by not short term lets to be licenced, granting far too high a concentration of HMOs and then doing almost nothing to managed the noise and other problems that comes of it.
5

Tartan Viking,

24/03/2009 12:23:21
Will MPs now attempt to silence the noise coming out of Nigel Griffins' Westminster office?
6

ZipptJeffrey,

Castle 24/03/2009 12:41:18
Has it not occurred to the complaining daftys in those city centre flats that Edinburgh city centre is a noisy lively place?! At the best of times Edinburgh city centre is a tourist playground. Attempting to regulate noise and functions is futile. If they wanted peace and quiet they should have moved to the countryside. Dafty bimbos.
7

James (1),

24/03/2009 13:00:36
And the winner for the most ignorant comment is..........#8

Clearly you do not live in an area where noise is an issue? I say that because you would not be so dismissive if you did. The licensing laws opening until 05.00hrs is a fairly new thing. Opening hours have been extended over the years I have been in my home for 30 years. Closing time used to be 10.00pm in the pubs nearby, now it is 01.00hrs (By the way I do not have any noise problems with those pubs)but your stupid comment about moving shows a lack of understanding of the problem purely because you have no experience of it.
8

totally indecent,

24/03/2009 13:01:55
6 - If the noise is muted in your bedroom why don't you go there and go to sleep instead of complaining and phoning the council at 3am?
9

Davie08,

Edinburgh 24/03/2009 13:09:10
#8 It does occur to us you idiot but those of us that live in the Grassmarket are fed up with fat bald p*ssed up idiots in fancy dress ruining every weekend (and that just the women). Many of the pubs in the area won't let them in and it it weren't for the chain that runs the Three Sisters, Biddy Mulligan's and the Grassmarket Hotel specifically catering to these clowns the problem would be considerably diminished. These people scare families away from the local businesses and do nothing for the image of Edinburgh as a tourist destination. Dublin managed to get shot of them and so should we.
10

elayne,

24/03/2009 13:56:00
#11,yeah it is rather tacky,and the screeching (from the females)is awful to hear,i wonder why they dont go to seaside resorts or places like "haven" holiday centres more,to me these places would be more suitable
11

DROK,

24/03/2009 14:31:51
Yeah, I was going to ring a nuisance hotline, but then I realised I already got enough hassles
12

Mallory,

Edinburgh 24/03/2009 15:27:53
Remind us who and when the push for a 24/77 'Nite Time Economy' booze culture started. Previous Labour Councils. Is it true that some councillors even had interests in pubs and clubs?
13

SandyBottoms,

Edinburgh 24/03/2009 15:40:15
Yeah, Davie, when I lived on the Grassmarket I slept with earplugs from Thursday to Tuesday. Now that I've moved to Pilton, I've exchanged noise, beggars, and people weeing on my buliding for groups of feral adolescents and possible break-ins. It's a bit of a trade off -- nuiscence crime every night, or real crime less frequently. At least the stag and hen parties are spending money in the city and supporting the local economy.
14

Klaus Dubois,

Ed. 24/03/2009 20:07:08
Fone the council ?????????

If it's anything like Clarence you'll initially speak to well-mannered but uninformed cannon fodder; if you get to speak to the supervisor you'll find that they're exceedingly well coached in avoidance behaviour, won't take any responsibility & refuse to exercise an iota of initiative.

#8 I think your carer should confiscate your keyboard.

PS check the ads at the bottom of the page.
15

Julian.,

edinburgh 24/03/2009 22:52:57
Can anyone explain why it is considered safe to rent a flat out to 10 people for a long weekend but if you have 3 people sharing for 6 months you have to meet all the stringent HMO safety requirements?

#8 I agree with the rest. Your comments are totally inconsiderate. Thousands of people live in the centre of Edinburgh and you can't expect them to put up with parties in the next door flat until 6 in the morning.
16

JeffreyCapes,

Edinburgh 06/04/2009 16:53:36
In what way would applying HMO style licensing to self catering properties do anything to alleviate the problem? I've suffered by living next to loads of party student flats in my 15 years in Edinburgh, and many of these have been HMO licensed.

I agree that the noise police are ineffectual, but surely we should be looking to give them greater powers to target and stop the anti-social groups themselves, rather than risking enourmous damage to our tourist trade?

Large groups of people coming to Edinburgh to stay in self-catering accommodation include: Families, participants in sporting events, corporate groups etc.
Edinburgh already has a deficit in short term accommodation, especially during August. Any legislation preventing property owners from short-term letting would have a negative effect on our valuable tourist trade without doing anything about the noise problem.

It would however earn some additional funds for the local authority though licensing fees.

 

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