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Published Date: 11 June 2009
PARKING enforcers are to be recruited as police spotters to help in the city's fight against crime.
A new agreement between the police and parking firm NSL will see attendants trained to spot everything from vehicle crime to antisocial behaviour and drug deals.

Enforcers may also be drafted in to help out the force on major inquiries, though they will not be given any extra powers.

The deal – the first of its kind in Scotland – is similar to schemes in England, such as one in Lancaster where parking attendants helped track down a vehicle used in an armed robbery during the initiative's first day of operation.

Police and council chiefs today welcomed the new arrangements, but one leading motoring group warned against attendants taking the law into their own hands.

The scheme, called Partnership Plus, will be officially launched today when representatives from the council, the police and NSL sign the new agreement.

Enforcers out on the beat will be expected to radio back to their control centre if they spot anything suspicious. The message will then be relayed to the police.

Councillor Gordon Mackenzie, the city's transport convener, said: "Our parking attendants' main objective is to maintain safe, steady traffic flow through Edinburgh's streets, but through working more closely with the ambulance service and now with the police, they can become an even greater asset to our city."

The initiative, which will also include the city's environmental wardens, follows a scheme launched last month in which parking enforcers are given training in basic first aid.

As part of the new agreement the police have committed to increased support for the wardens, helping them ensure they can do their jobs safely.

It will also see parking attendants assist police with special operations, such as clampdowns on blue badge fraud.

Neil Greig, spokesman for the Institute of Advanced Motorists, said: "In theory, this fits with the joined-up enforcement we have been calling for. The more eyes and ears out there the more likely we are to pick up unlicensed and untaxed cars.

"As ever with parking attendants in Edinburgh, it will be about whether they are heavy-handed and getting involved in things they shouldn't be."

Tory justice spokesman Bill Aitken was more supportive.

He said: "I think this is a good move and while I would not wish the wardens to put themselves at risk, I think they and Lothian and Borders Police deserve credit."


Your Say: Is it a good idea to turn parking enforcers into crime fighters?

George Morley, 34, school janitor, Duddingston: "Yes, it should be part of their civic duty to report anything suspicious they see when they're walking the streets."

Mike Falchikov, 71, retired university lecturer, Strathearn Road: "It seems to be a good idea provided they're not trying to do real police work on the cheap."

Julie McCalmont, 26, student, Dalkeith Road: "It shouldn't be an excuse to have less police on the beat."

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Auld Reeky,

11/06/2009 11:37:03
The Police already had a very professional force previously when they had Police traffic wardens patrolling the streets of Edinburgh, who done all the duties and more that are being now asked of a "private parking attendant company" it is a great shame that these were all lost a couple of years back.
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Duncan in Edinburgh,

11/06/2009 11:42:38
#1 The police traffic wardens are still around, and still effective. Their remit is to keep the roads free-flowing and safe. NSL staff are there solely to enforce parking restrictions, which I think they do quite effectively.

Not sure where you got the idea that the police traffic wardens had been got rid of - they are still as active as ever they were.
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Pantaloon,

11/06/2009 11:43:07

Oh dear, just what we need. Giving these people a sense of power and authority.

They are bad enough just now, swaggering around with their wee printers and cameras. Imagine how bad they will get if they think they are coppers?
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NorT,

Edinburgh 11/06/2009 11:55:10
Policing on the cheap. The little Hitlers called parking attendants shouls stick to what they are employed to do and that is not policing. They can't even do the parking bit properly.
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Big bob 79,

11/06/2009 11:55:39
Parking attendants can help traffic flow by staying on the pavement!
The guddle of them standing outside their office on Lower Gilmour Place each morning is a hazard, if they got hit by a car there would be pies and greggs bags everywhere!

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alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 11/06/2009 11:59:18
Cheap policing never solved anything,now these horrible people are in authority.
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jdships,

Edinburgh 11/06/2009 12:01:28
4 NorT

Agree totally !
Have only ever had one parking ticket but on many occasions have had to ask for help and advice re parking .
From those experiences I would suggest a course in manners would not go amiss.
Very few seem to have even a pleasant manner towards anyone who speaks to them .
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Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 11/06/2009 12:02:31
So they'e finally woken up to the fact that speed cameras will not detect the vast majority of crime and you actually need to put officers on the street to do the vast majority of policing.

As a point of note, in the mid to late 80s and early 90s, I used to travel up and down the A74(M)/M6/A34 regularly. During each journey, I would see at least half a dozen police traffic patrol vehicles.

Any idea how many I saw the last time I did this trip earlier this year? None whatsoever. Saw plenty of signs warning of speed cameras though.
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simonp,

11/06/2009 12:03:07
Is this not a pretty obvious thing to do? I take it they will have no powers to arrest etc.
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Foo,

11/06/2009 12:03:21
Don't want a parking ticket? Park correctly, simple.

I did once have one try to give me a ticket when I was at a side street junction waiting to join the flow of traffic on the main drag at Stockbridge.

No waiting for you! He shouted and started writing a ticket. Chap was a Pole.

I tipped my hat to him in a jaunty manner, shouted Huzzah(!) then made off.

Great days.
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Foo,

11/06/2009 12:05:17
Perhaps they could employ Gorgie Tony.

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reincarnated,

Edinburgh 11/06/2009 12:10:02
The parking company is only in it for the money. Whats in this for them?

A 10% cut of every fine?

Hey you, I saw you fling that fag end doon there. (Another six quid to us!)
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bluehead,

edinburgh 11/06/2009 12:11:40
jings ,!crivens














jings! crivens !michty me!!!another crazy idea to save money by having a second rate police force in our midst
it's no use complaining for the pile of plonkers who are running Edinburgh just haven't got a clue
for proof all you have to do is look at the crazy tram system that nobody wanted except them,and all that good money going down the lavvy pan,plus we hear they want to build a school in a park in portobello!where next ?the botanic gardens or perhaps even prices street gardens,what a mess!!!!!!!!





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Foo,

11/06/2009 12:13:16
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Oh, hai!

I missed you yesterday.
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simonp,

11/06/2009 12:14:48
#13 I thought there place to congregate was by Zizi in Fountainbridge!!!
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malcyh,

11/06/2009 12:21:21
Here is a novel idea - What about Police actually out on the beat. I was waiting for a bus in St Andrew Sq on Sunday afternoon (4pm ish) and no less than 4 Police Cars/Vans cam round within ten minutes. None of them with blue lights on I might add.
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Pantaloon,

11/06/2009 12:25:40
Here in Auld Reekie,we're the tighest you'll ever meet,

Very rarely will you ever see a bobby on the beat,

This costs cash you see, and we're all so very poor,

This is cos our PM ruined us, he's awfy awfy door,

So instead of a trained policeman,rushing to our aid,

They'll send a parking attendant,with a bottle of lemonade,

He'll swagger, patronise, tut and look cool,

Even tho he's clueless and failed a lot at school,

He'll arrest, detain and jail,

These parking attendant Mo fo's, they don't do bail!

A 10 stretch at Saughton, thats his wish,

I better go now, i just realised i'm writing pis........







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Jingling Geordie,

Sunshine on Leith 11/06/2009 12:46:08
Polis murder what next? Will the parking attendants get to retire at 50 on muckle pensions just like their counterparts in the "Bobby Service".... perhaps they should get stun-guns too!!!!
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Jeffrey Lebowski,

11/06/2009 13:14:09
#31 Car drivers already suffer. I don't think you add to that you tool.
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Pantaloon,

11/06/2009 13:14:51

Well Tony, we all suffer with you patrolling the boards of the EEN site!
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Jeffrey Lebowski,

11/06/2009 13:18:01
#35 You're a tool. Your posts are rubbish.
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Jeffrey Lebowski,

11/06/2009 13:19:11
#35 Maybe you should get out the house more. It can't be good reading the EEN all day whilst chugging.
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Foo,

11/06/2009 14:06:14
39 Gorgie Tony

I think you'll find parking attandents don't have any authority to send anyone to jail. You'd have to be a judge to do that.

Judge Gorgie Tony
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Ron S,

Stockbridge 11/06/2009 14:07:28
Can a badly parked tram get a parking ticket Foo?
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Fredster.,

11/06/2009 14:34:42
Does this mean they could slap a ticket on a homeless begger? It's against the law to beg!
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Foo,

11/06/2009 14:56:41
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I'm not sure about that at all GT, but even if they do, they can't send people to jail. A small but significant point.
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Statsman,

Edinburgh 11/06/2009 15:05:37
An East German style spy brigade. Just as well we won the Cold War.

I wonder if there will be targets and bonuses for the number of people they report for subversive behaviour?
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Foo,

11/06/2009 15:06:57
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Kusu o taberu na

???????
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tomias,

Edinburgh 11/06/2009 15:34:06
Stasi et al; clipe on your Mum and Dad/ recruit left right snd centre then collate all the info;next for recruitment- tram drivers?
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Derts n telly ya basta,

11/06/2009 15:35:54
I don't think this is a great idea.
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11/06/2009 15:37:14
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Derts n telly ya basta,

11/06/2009 15:38:03
It was a bright, cold day in April and the clocks were striking 13.

Brian From Accounts got incarcerated for subversive behaviour and parking on a double yellow.



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gordon aka smoker and proud,

edinburgh 11/06/2009 15:38:33
sadly i have to tell yooz that everyone has the right to arrest, its called citizens arrest! so that clears that up!
the reason me thinks for the meanies getting recuited for the polis is simple, raises more money for the cooncil coffers to pay for our beloved tram system!
evrytime they see summat they radio in and gets money from lbp which the cooncil gets in wee(or big!) broon envelopes
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Derts n telly ya basta,

11/06/2009 15:40:22


#61

everyone except you, T-Gone, everyone except you. A bag of chips and you'd run off greeting.
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Derts n telly ya basta,

11/06/2009 15:40:44


ROLL ON THE BAG OF CHIPS!! SALT N SOS IS BEST!!!
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Ron S,

Stockbridge 11/06/2009 15:46:01
#52
busahou de suimasen.
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11/06/2009 15:48:31
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Foo,

11/06/2009 15:49:54
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You're an idiot. You're an unfunny idiot. Your idiot mother produced an idiot through being paid by seafaring idiots to provide rimjobs round Leith. Your father, 'seaman' wee Jock stupid McIdiot came from a long line of rimjobbers and idiots.
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Derts n telly ya basta,

11/06/2009 15:50:38
What trough-snouting thickbastard politician thought this idea up?

Go lie in a derkened room, then kill yourself, whoever you are.
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Derts n telly ya basta,

11/06/2009 15:52:55
Stop moaning you lot. This is a GR8 idea lolz, i live in a stoorie hoose and chugmaselblind LOL naws ah dinny ah jist hae the contact lensis ye ken
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Derts n telly ya basta,

11/06/2009 15:55:17
In other news, the ambulance service is to be taken over by minicab drivers:

"Hospital please mate. I've got pulmonary depression frae takkin too much ae thon Myanmar Skag likesy!"

- what is hospital?

"Its a big building in Little France"

- I no tek you to France, is too far, and this cab not insure for the EuroChunnel, boss

"ah ok. I'll just walk then"

[patient gets out of minicab, keels over and dies]
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gordon aka smoker and proud,

embra 11/06/2009 15:59:26
LATEST BREAKING NEWS!!!
TAXI DRIVERS TO GO OUT OM STRIKE BECAUSE OF THE TRAMS!
THEY SAY THAT IT WILL STOP THEM U-TURNING WITHOUT INDICATING AND STOPPING WITHOUT WARNING
UPPER DECK FOR GORGIE TONY!
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Foo,

11/06/2009 16:13:34
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Haha, Dude come on. I've had plenty stalkers before you, and they were at least funny. You're going to have to do a lot better, I'm giving you 3/10.

FYI I'm half Japanese.
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11/06/2009 16:14:34
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gordon aka smoker and proud,

11/06/2009 16:17:24
why is foo talking yo himself???????
weirdo
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Foo,

11/06/2009 16:17:34
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Are you building up to being interesting and funny or is this it?
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Foo,

11/06/2009 16:20:19
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Em, not talking to myself. Just having a laugh with my new best buddy. He's a tram supporter too.
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Foo,

11/06/2009 16:20:51
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Post something else, please, I'm cracking up here!
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Foo,

11/06/2009 16:21:03
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Come one, don't be shy
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Foo,

11/06/2009 16:21:33
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Where's my best bud gone?
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Foo,

11/06/2009 16:23:35
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Thanks man, he's been on my back for some time now.
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Foo,

11/06/2009 16:23:51
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The one with you in it.
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gordon aka smoker and proud,

11/06/2009 16:23:57
taking you too long to sign out and sign in foo numpty heed!
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gordon aka smoker and proud,

11/06/2009 16:25:38
same wi you fooo
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gordon aka smoker and proud,

11/06/2009 16:26:01
sheesh must be gr8 to be in love with yourself
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Foo,

11/06/2009 16:26:03
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Still at air traffic control and single handedly subsidising the NHS Gordon?
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Foo,

11/06/2009 16:26:44
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Cheers dude, I thought it, you said it.
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Foo,

11/06/2009 16:29:01
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nihongo o hanashimasu ka?

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Foo,

11/06/2009 16:29:15
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gordon aka smoker and proud,

11/06/2009 16:29:25
hehehehehehehehehehe smoker and proud, coach driver par excellance 30 years + drinks to excess when not driving (ya only spill it!) and loves life and trams and watching eejits falling in love with themselves(foo and fooo comes to mind right away!)
hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe
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Foo,

11/06/2009 16:29:28
100
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Foo,

11/06/2009 16:30:09
bollocksh

foo, deal with Gordon for that please.
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Foo,

11/06/2009 16:31:42
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Bit hard here TBPH
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Foo,

11/06/2009 16:32:17
fnaar
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Foo,

11/06/2009 16:32:56
OK, I have to go work now, lovely talking to you mini me fooo
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undercover pa,

edin 11/06/2009 17:46:30
all your comments are wrong us hard worked and under paid pas where not asked about joining this partnership and most off us dont want to do this as the police dont take any of what happens to us on the street as we are on strike next wed 17th our bosses will try in bring in attendents from england to try and break the strike. do the job of the police without their training or thier pay scale that what the traffic wardens did untill they sacked them.
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is it me?,

Edinburgh 11/06/2009 21:13:58
If one drinks a seriously good Chardonnay out of the bottle because it's safer while sitting at the computer; does that make you an alkie ?

I was just wondering.

#108
Good point !
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totally indecent,

11/06/2009 23:17:50
Och is that Soapy deid now? A canny cope wi aw this bereavement - they killin u off quicker than you can re-incarnate.
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Wanted ,

11/06/2009 23:26:53
Giz a job.
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gilmerton jambo,

edinburgh 12/06/2009 08:39:30
they are scum simple
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WL,

Livingston 12/06/2009 15:09:57
If NSL staff wants to do police duties they should join the police and be properly trained for the job.
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JFW,

Edinburgh 12/06/2009 16:46:29
It would be nice if they would liase with Police on the double parking that they can't deal with - the sort of poor parking that is dangerous or does cause traffic chaos, something that should already be within their remit but obviously isn't. Apart from that they should stick to their jobs and the police should get out on the streets and do theirs.

 

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