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Published Date: 03 April 2009
PARKING attendants in Edinburgh are famous for their strict enforcement as they ruthlessly adhere to the city's rules.
And knowing the rules inside out appears to have an added benefit, at least for one city enforcer.

While other motorists would be put off by a sign asking that a space be left clear for disabled drivers, he was happy to leave his motorbike there while he went on the prowl.

Parking bosses insist the sign has no legal authority and had been erected on Inverleith Place by the nearby Royal Botanic Garden. The attendant, they added, was therefore doing nothing wrong when he parked just outside the north entrance to the garden on Wednesday afternoon.

But while he may have been within the law, his choice of parking space only served to enrage onlookers.

Drew McAdam, an entertainer from West Calder, used his digital camera to capture the moment.

Mr McAdam, 53, said: "I was visiting the Botanics. It was a lovely day so I thought I would take a stroll.

"I saw the scooter parked and realised what it was. The warden was away at the end of the road. There were plenty of spaces he could have parked in."

He added: "He had wandered off down the street booking cars and came back to do his paperwork.

"It does really annoy people when they see that kind of thing."

Drivers who abuse disabled parking bays under local authority control can be fined £30 under a law passed by MSPs in February.

However, the sign identifying the space on Inverleith Place as a priority bay for disabled drivers was not put there by the city council but by the Botanics.

A spokesman for NCP Services said: "The bay in question is a dual bay for both permit and pay and display.

"Civil enforcement officers from NCP Services, working on behalf of Edinburgh City Council, are allowed as part of their role to park in these areas.

"The signage erected, however, may be misleading and we have asked the Royal Botanic Garden to remove this to ensure that it is clearer to motorists."

Campaigners have hit out, however, saying there is still a moral obligation to keep identified bays free for disabled drivers.

Bruce Young, Lothian and Borders co-ordinator of the Association of British Drivers, accused the parking attendant of "acting like a lout".

He said: "These commercial parking attendants seem to take the view that they can park wherever they like when they are ticketing people and that is just not true.

"There is no justification for it. Disabled bays are there for a purpose and should be respected."


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1

Hmm ...,

03/04/2009 12:00:18
... "behaving like a lout"? What an apt description of the calibre of "parking attendant" employed by NCP! And isn't it time that the police took an interest in the way that NCP sees fit to "enforce" parking restrictions?
2

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 03/04/2009 12:04:43
These people are a law unto themselves,and just please themself when they like.
3

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03/04/2009 12:06:26
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kiwi007,

EDINBURGH 03/04/2009 12:08:56
Parking bosses insist the sign has no legal authority so does that mean anyone can park there without fear of a ticket
5

Duncan in Edinburgh,

03/04/2009 12:10:32
So this story is completely accurate except for the fact that it wasn't actually a disabled bay.

Brilliant work, EEN. Whip up a bit of hatred, ignore the facts.
6

Council Insider,

Council HQ 03/04/2009 12:21:02
Bruce 'Rent A Quote' Young likes to get a bit carried away about things doesn't he. Acting like a lout?
7

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03/04/2009 12:22:42
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Padraig,

03/04/2009 12:24:04
It's interesting to see these commercial "enforcers of the law" have absolutely no regard for the law when it applies to themselves.

Or is it just that they reckon they can get away with it?
9

Bob 2,

03/04/2009 12:26:08
read the article folks, for once the attendant wasn't in the wrong

as this is a public street and it was the Botanics that put this NON enforcable sign up.

Its like someone were there is a Public Road outside putting a sign up at the front of their house saying Residents Parking Only.

But there should be allocated bays for "disabled badge holders"
10

Bob 2,

03/04/2009 12:28:58
"The signage erected, however, may be misleading and we have asked the Royal Botanic Garden to remove this to ensure that it is clearer to motorists."

well, given that most people leave these spaces empty ..... well done Mr McAdam....the spaces will be full now
11

Skip McClendon,

03/04/2009 12:28:59
Those who claim it "isn't a legal disabled bay" seem to be kinda missing the point, don't they?

It's a courtesy bay, just like many disabled bays at shopping centres etc are also courtesy bays. There is no law against abled body people parking there but, if they do, they are frankly selfish morons.

People with disabilities have the right to access places like the Botanic Gardens as much as anyone else. If the Botanic Gardens want to suggest that this space should be used by disabled drivers, even if there is no legal weight behind it, then everyone should respect that. Especially those whose job it is to enforce other legal parking restrictions.
12

Bruce Young,

03/04/2009 12:29:25
Council Insider #6 calls me "Bruce `Rent a Quote' Young - chance would be a fine thing! I tell it as I see it, unpaid and definitely not for cash!

And which part of the story does Council Insider think upholds public standards? Or does he also think that it is OK to do as you like in public life?
13

Hmm ...,

03/04/2009 12:35:17
... asn't it a fact that disabled permit holders are permitted to park anywhere other than residents' spaces and loading restrictions? That the Botanics allocated these spaces was simply to enable disabled people to park as close as possible to the park as, by definition, disabled permit holders are unable to walk any distance. The parking attendant wasn't so disabled so was at best acting selfishly and didn't care. But then we know they never do, do they?

Should such people be employed in a position of some power? Don't be daft!
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Skip McClendon,

03/04/2009 12:35:49
#13

Illegal, no. Selfish, and self-important yes.

Your argument seems to be that, because some car-drivers are selfish at Asda, then motorcycling ticket attendants should also be allowed to be selfish. That's a very misguided argument.
15

Voice of reason,

EDINBURGH 03/04/2009 12:35:49
13 -yes - and the worst are young women in 4*4s . Impound them I say .
16

Skip McClendon,

03/04/2009 12:41:48
By the way, if this was a "dual use bay, both permit and pay and display", did the attendant pay and display?

....and anyway, why didn't he/she just use one a dedicated "solo MCs only" spaces, rather than take up a disabled / pay and display space?
17

Foo,

03/04/2009 12:44:27
Aren't we all out to help each other as much as possible?

Isn't it, whilst not a legal responsibility in this case, the right thing to do? Leave a space open for someone who needs it a bit more help than you? Can't you just park a few hundred more metres down the road, fatarse?

It worries me that a lot of the people who comment on this section have car licences.

Thankfully G_T doesn't; driving was mercifully beyond his capabilities.

Hooray!
18

Foo,

03/04/2009 12:49:09
#19 - Your mental capacity
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Rambo The Jambo,

Edinburgh 03/04/2009 12:49:34
# 11 Skip McClendon,

There are two 'single car' disabled parking bays painted on the roads in Marchmont. Quite how the house owner got these painted on the public highway is beyond me as this practice is unlawful. They also have the cheek to put a warning sign on their front gate asking people not to park in these 'disabled bays'.

1 If they carried this out without legal permission the paint should be removed.

2 How does anyone know whether there is still someone disabled living in these houses.
20

Brian Ferrari,

03/04/2009 12:53:09
#11 think you are also missing the point.

At ASDA or TESCO the disabled bays are on their property.

Here, the Botanics have taken it upon themselves to mark out the public highway.
21

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03/04/2009 12:55:24
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Council Insider,

Council HQ 03/04/2009 12:57:40
#12. What is your middle name then Bruce?
23

Hmm ...,

03/04/2009 13:02:01
#24 - none of your concern. But it is interesting to see someone claiming to be a public servant has such a loose grip on the concept of public service!

You aren't really on the public payroll, are you?
24

Dragonlord,

03/04/2009 13:02:41
21# These bays are painted by the council are are perfectly legal. They are unfortunately, not enforceable and rely on people having a sense of decency. They should be removed when they are no longer used by the disabled. As for the origional story , whether these bays are official or not makes no difference. It was tottally insensitve of the warden to park there, when there were other bays free. What sort of message does it put out? As for disabled parking bays, these will soon become lagally enforcable, and parking in them restricted to those who meed them. Now all we need is for the police and wardnes to catch those with illegal badges and those who mis-use the real thing.
25

Hmm ...,

03/04/2009 13:03:37
... he raised a valid question, so why don't you answer it?

"And which part of the story does Council Insider think upholds public standards? Or does he also think that it is OK to do as you like in public life?"
26

Harry Callahan,

03/04/2009 13:04:58
#20 Foo

Just been reading yesterday's issue of the een and the North Korea article.

Wish I had been able to hang around to see the rest of the comments being posted yesterday afternoon.

Again, your comments were brilliant and put that postmark tw@t in his place.

Can't believe I giving you a compliment.
27

Foo,

03/04/2009 13:09:53
#28 - I've just noticed he's back again.
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Bill MacD,

03/04/2009 13:11:38
The police are a disgrace for this sort of hypocrisy too. I've several times seen them parked on double yellow lines on the street corner on South Bridge while they pop into the greasy spoon for their bacon butties. It doesn't exactly breed respect, does it? One law for...
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Harry Callahan,

03/04/2009 13:15:43
#29 Foo

On which article?
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The Sheriff,

03/04/2009 13:16:15
Well it's been quite a while since we have had a "let's have a go at the parking attendants" story from the rag know as the Edinburgh Evening News.One thing that is for certain is the usual inaccurate reporting of the facts which feeds the frenzy of our resident posters who jump on the bandwagon and engage mouth via typing before engaging brain and thinking about what they publish.

As for Mr Drew McAdam 53 and from West Calder,what gives you the right to go around on your high horse and take photographs of an employee without their permission?If I were to hound you around your home and take a photograph of you doing something you might not want others to know you sound like the type of person who would be on the phone toot sweet calling the police to arrest me for invading your privacy.

For those of you who are annoyed at the actions of this employee perhaps you should direct your annoyance to those who misuse disabled badges on a daily basis,take a look throughout Edinburgh and you will see blue badges going out of fashion well displayed on car dashboards in pay and display bays because it's free to do so.

There is a florist who operates near salisbury road who uses her mothers bluebadge to gain free parking outside her florist shop on the main clerk street/minto street road,very close to a pizza shop.

She is has been reported on numerous occasions yet the council have done nothing about her abuse of the blue badge,she is not alone in this practice.

In this case the Parking attendant has done nothing wrong,the sign was erected by the botanic gardens who had no right to do so. Most of the parking that surrounds the boundary of the botanic gardens is pay and display bays and as i have already stated it is free for blue badge holders,or did Mr Drew McAdam forget to photograph the thousands of disabled motorists waiting to take up occupancy of this illegal disabled bay? :O)
31

Foo,

03/04/2009 13:19:32
#31

http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/northkorea/North-Korea-in-39thunderbolt-of.5133667.jp#3906688
32

Bruce Young,

03/04/2009 13:22:39
Thanks, Hmmm... #25 it is none of his concern although I could have told him that myself. And I would like him to answer my question as you suggest in #27.

Tell me, have you ever thought about joining the Association of British Drivers. You can join online at www.abd.org.uk We could use even more members and if ever a city needed a drivers' lobby group, it must be Edinburgh!
33

whoreally cares,

03/04/2009 13:56:16
i cant believe a "journalist" got paid for this story - is it work experience week for the schools??????
34

Skip McClendon,

03/04/2009 14:04:57
#18

Well aaid, Foo. This is about being considerate to people who are less fortunate then yourself. The fact that so many people seem to be sticking up for the attendant - who acted in a lazy, selfish manner - says a lot about the sad state of the society that we live in.

It seems the Botanics have attemped to make things slightly easier for disabled visitors by sticking a "disabled priority" sign up, even if it is not legally enforceable. Yet people continue to support the "me first" solution if it conveniently allows them to park 10 yards closer to wherever they are going. All very sad.
35

Skip McClendon,

03/04/2009 14:11:58
#32

Anyone has the right to photograph anyone on the public street. Photographing someone in their own home is entirely different. But, if you are doing something on a public street, anyone has the right to take your picture. If we all had to grant permission to be photographed as we go about our business (lawful of unlawful) then Councils, businesses etc would all either have to tear down their CCTV cameras or get us all to sign a permission form.
36

The Ayrshire Bard,

03/04/2009 14:27:05
#32 Re the florist. Abuse of the Blue Badge is actually a criminal offence which carries a fine of up to £1000 plus the possible confiscation of the badge. This is clearly a matter for the police as I am uncertain if the traffic wardens have the authority to demand to inspect her badge to check who it issued to. Unbelievable that the council have chosen to ignore this as they recently stated that a huge percentage of Blue Badges in Edinburgh were being abused. It needs a couple of big fines being handed out to stop this racket. Re the traffic warden. I was of the opinion that the area in front of the Botanics was their property so the warden was actually abusing his authority by parking there although not a visitor to the gardens. He or she should be severely reprimanded.
Glasgow police have been pursuing Blue Badge abusers for some time and all police have the right to inspect the badges, they just don't seem interested in Edinburgh
37

ellbee,

EDINBURGH 03/04/2009 14:29:27
Talking of disabled parking spaces there's a designated space within Piersfield Grove which is usually LEGALLY occupied by a private cab owner and his taxi and guess what - the taxi has a BLUE DISABLED badge clearly on display! I've vented my annoyance to the Cab Office at Murrayburn about this but was told there was nothing wrong with it! I just couldn't believe it!
38

Dragonlord,

03/04/2009 14:44:40
39# Not defending the action and I am sure our resident taxi owner will clarify, but I think in this case the taxi is owned and used as a private vehicle as well as a taxi for hire.( ie not always used just for hire) The driver although disabled is entitled to earn a certain amount on top of benefits( whether this limit is exceded or not is another matter)
However the badge should be used ONLY by the person to whom it applies.
39

Dragonlord,

03/04/2009 14:48:01
38# The police in Edinburgh are a disgrace in this case. They recently had a purge on illegal blue badges and only two were prosicuted and 38 were let off with a warning. ( IIRC these figures are right, I appologise for any inacuracy )
40

Council Insider,

At Home Already 03/04/2009 15:02:20
#34. Can I be in your gang.
41

Bruce Young,

03/04/2009 15:13:52
Council Insider #42 - certainly, if you pay the £20 subscription AND have a fairly clean driving licence!

But, "home already"? You must be a Councillor - even local authority staff don't get off home this early, surely?

And I would still be very interested to know your answer to the question in #12 - "... which part of the story does Council Insider think upholds public standards? Or does he also think that it is OK to do as you like in public life?"

If you are a Councillor, that question is particularly relevant!
42

Andrew,

03/04/2009 16:39:18
Who fines the finers? Who patrols the patrols?
Who charges the chargers? etc etc etc
43

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03/04/2009 17:31:10
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Snails dont like curry and chips,

Edinburgh 03/04/2009 18:01:10
Give him a hefty fine. Just as any other motorist would get.
45

Duncan in Edinburgh,

03/04/2009 18:45:56
#46 Do people like you just read the headline and comment? It is explained at great length in the article, and repeated numerous times in these comments, that he was parked perfectly legally, and received exactly the fine any other motorist would get - no fine at all.

What scares me is that you - and other like you - will go away from this page thinking "NCP people break the law and don't get fined, it's unfair" when the truth is completely different.

The EEN should be ashamed of its policy of provocative headlines on innocuous stories.
46

archie12,

03/04/2009 19:49:49
#47 - Unusually, I agree with you.
47

James (1),

03/04/2009 20:06:42
If the cars that was being ticketed had not been there illegally then the imaginary disabled driver deprived of the parking space could have parked there and not needed the use of a disabled space.
There were plenty of spaces according to the article so this imaginary disabled driver could have parked in one of them.
The only thing that appears to be real about this article is the parking attendant was not doing anything illegal.
48

blackley,

Edinburgh 03/04/2009 20:53:03
Come on the attendants! Book the blooming lot of them!
49

Dragonlord,

03/04/2009 20:58:34
47# You are wrong. He did not pay and display therefore he should have been fined.LIKE ANY OTHER MOTORIST!
50

Brian Ferrari,

03/04/2009 21:39:07
#51

Oh dear.

You are not very bright, are you?

Read the article again. Slowly.
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Julian.,

edinburgh 03/04/2009 22:49:38
Dragonlord,

Here, this might help a bit further:-

"Civil enforcement officers from NCP Services, working on behalf of Edinburgh City Council, are allowed as part of their role to park in these areas."

What did you expect the attendant to do? Pay and display? Think about it.
52

Council Insider,

Still At Home 04/04/2009 00:00:27
#43 Hook line and sinker!
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04/04/2009 01:32:19
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The Sheriff,

04/04/2009 09:01:31
*37,Read my thread again,I never said in a home I said around a home.You say people have the right to photograph from a public street,so pray tell why folk are up in arms about the google cars invading their privacy?As you say google are doing nothing using a public street.
55

tumshie heid,

04/04/2009 10:51:54
#39 I bet you live across the road in the "newer" properties that used to be Lawson's timber? The place that has plenty of off street parking but most of its residents are too lazy to walk from there so clog up Piersfield Grove instead.
56

Foo,

05/04/2009 08:10:26
tumshie heid, at it again? Questioning the right of someone else to have an opposing view to yours and insulting them for having the audacity to disagree?


 

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