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Published Date: 17 February 2009
A BAN on coaches entering Edinburgh Castle's esplanade could have a serious impact on visitor numbers to the attraction, it has been warned.
Historic Scotland is looking to ban coaches in order to reduce traffic around the Castle entrance, and is set to run a trial scheme later this year.

Tourist organisations have warned that the plans will cause considerable difficulty for elderly v
isitors to the Castle, and could lead to many companies missing out the famous landmark.

The move follows discussions between the tour organisations and Historic Scotland over concerns about the amount of traffic in the area round Castlehill.

While the coaches will be banned from the Castle Esplanade, a coach drop-off point will be created at the top of Johnston Terrace, with loading and unloading restricted on Castlehill during the day to further reduce traffic.

Historic Scotland will be providing staff at the top of Johnston Terrace to support the arrival of visitors, and also plans to put on a courtesy vehicle service for disabled visitors.

But tour groups from around Britain wrote to the council to express their concern that the new drop-off point was too far from the Castle entrance.

The changes could be further affected by plans to ban coach parking further down on Johnston Terrace, over concerns about loose boulders from Castle Rock.

Patricia Blaine, director of the Scottish Tourist Guides Association, said there were fears it could hit the number of people visiting the Castle.

"The problem is at the moment we have a lot of tourist coaches taking visitors right up to the esplanade and that will no longer be possible," she said.

"The courtesy bus will not cover a lot of our clients, most of whom are over 50.

"We will have to take a longer route, and buses could take longer to arrive at the proposed pick-up point outside the Hub if they are no longer to park on Johnston Terrace. The cumulative effect of all of this is that it will be a lot more difficult, and a lot more time- consuming, to take groups of visitors to Edinburgh Castle and that could have a knock-on effect.

"It happened in Paris when similar restrictions were brought in around Notre Dame Cathedral – we saw a lot of companies simply stop running tours there."

A spokeswoman for Historic Scotland said: "The aim is to design a pedestrian and traffic management system which meets everyone's needs and improves the experience for all visitors to what is an integral part of the World Heritage site.

"It is hoped that this initiative will enhance the experience of visitors to Edinburgh as well as pedestrians, local workers and businesses."

• www.historic-scotland.gov.uk



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1

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 17/02/2009 12:17:05
This is suicide,hardly any visitors will climb the stairs or walk up castle hill to see our great attraction.
2

Randan,

17/02/2009 12:18:10
Seems plain stupid to me.
Effectively no more disabled access to the castle.
Who was paid to come up with this decision?
3

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 17/02/2009 12:32:56
Whoever suggested this crazy idea should be sacked---or maybe given a knife so that they can cut their nose off in order to spite their face.
4

AbandonAllHope,

17/02/2009 12:37:03
It takes 2 minutes from Johnston Terrace to the esplanade. If they can do it for the Tattoo they can get there geriatric, varicous legs and wheelchairs up there as well.
5

Tommy Blue,

Leith 17/02/2009 12:43:15
Everytime I struggle up to the castle with the intention of going in I see the extortionate admission charge and change my mind. Make entry more affordable and perhaps some Edinburgh people might actually visit.
6

Diana,

Edinburgh 17/02/2009 13:09:05
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot... What a stupid idea.
7

Bill MacD,

17/02/2009 13:48:19
The whole point about having a trial period is to assess the ACTUAL effect, rather than depending on the half-witted views of know-all loudmouths like 1-3 above for example.

If there's a problem for particular groups such as the elderly it's easily solved by providing small shuttles. All the other lazy sods can lump it.
8

molehill mountain,

edinburgh 17/02/2009 13:53:56
At GBP 12 a belt ,it's hardly surprising that Glasgow's free museums are Scotlands top visited attractions.
9

Leila,

Edinburgh 17/02/2009 14:17:03
You'd think Historic Scotland would want to make it EASY for visitors to get to the Castle and spend money there! If you put difficulties in the way, particularly since coach parties tend to be older people, a lot of them just won't bother going to the Castle - or if they have to struggle to get there they'll tell others not to bother in future. Either way, it sounds like a loser as a policy.
10

Jock MacSprog,

17/02/2009 14:22:28
This policy is long overdue. Its a joke to suggest that people cant walk the 100yrds up the Royal Mile. If they are that disabled, then how will they get around the rest of the castle anyway ?? There is also no need to have taxis delivering lazy people right to the front door of the castle either. In the summer that stretch of the street is pack with people and its ridiculous when these coaches and taxis try to pick their way through the crowd blowing their horns for people to get out of the way. It should be a totally pedestrianised area from the church to the castle.
11

Bring Back Poll Tax,

17/02/2009 14:33:04
Not to worry, the cooncilors toy train (sorry, I meant tram "network") will make sooooo much profit in its first year of operations that it'll be extended up the Mound right to the Castle.
12

It's me!,

17/02/2009 14:52:57
It's a castle. It's not supposed to be easy to get in.
13

Hector the Red,

17/02/2009 15:55:57
escalators from Johnstone Terrace to the castle is what you require!
14

Richard Lionheart,

17/02/2009 16:05:10
Sounds like Gordon Brown has a part time job with Historic Scotland.
15

Council Insider,

Council HQ 17/02/2009 16:41:36
#13 I like the sound of that. Let me speak to planning and see what they say.
16

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 17/02/2009 17:05:46
#10 Jock MacSprog,

Yes indeed, Jock, I am sure that there are also concerns regarding public i.e. pedestrian safety. The Castlehill Road is very narrow with people wandering around allover the place.

It has always been something of a source of wonder to me that there have not been some serious accidents here given the speed and dangerous way some of these coaches are driven.

17

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 17/02/2009 17:34:15
#7:

"The whole point about having a trial period is to assess the ACTUAL effect..."

Yes. That is what trial periods are supposed to be for. That is what they USED to be all about 20 years ago. Now, the term "trial period" has got to meaning "We're doing this regardless because we know best so get used to it suckers!"

The excuse being used this time is about traffic, and you can bet your bottom dollar that they WILL be able to demonstrate a reduction in traffic around the castle entrance, even though there is really hardly any there now. Therefore, this "trial period" WILL become permanent and as a result a great many people are goiing to miss out on the opportunity to visit the Castle.

That however will not matter because the level of traffic will be reduced and so the object of the exercise will have been achieved.

Your idea of providing a shuttle is ridiculous. Just let the coaches drive up to the castle as they have always done. Yes, the walk up there might be easy for fit people like you and I but for others it is going to be difficult if not impossible. We have a system that works. Let's not mess about with it eh? Especially to solve a non-existant problem.
18

Kitti Kat,

Newtown Square 17/02/2009 18:02:44
I have always walked up the hill to enter the castle but understand the need for the coach tours to drop passengers off there. The older people most likely could not make the walk up the hill . There must be a better and more sensible way to limit the traffic. I don't thnk that banning tour busses is the answer because the castle will be losing revenue when tourists can't make it to the entrance. AS to a shuttle, it would probably cause problems too. Leave well enough alone.
19

Wee Norrie,

NORTH BERWICK 17/02/2009 18:13:34
Well written Hector #13. If Budapest can provide escalators why not Edinburgh? The narrow road from the roundabout at the top of Johnstone Terrace up to the Esplanade can no longer cope with the size of modern coaches going up and down, the volume of pedestrians, cars, taxis and delivery vehicles, pavement artists, entertainers and so on. It is time for a radical re-think.
20

Sumpplareasswholes,

Edinburgh 17/02/2009 19:05:10
WELL SAID #4
21

piper,

17/02/2009 19:34:15
it should be called hysterical scotland i work for the ministry of defence and visit the castle regularly wiyh cars and coaches and it,s a bloody palaver even for civil servants to get anywere near the castle even with bus loads of troops visiting the castle it,s oh sorry only 2 coaches at a time historic scotland should get some one in who knows what they are doing they are just a load of jobsworths
22

COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 17/02/2009 23:21:16
I.THINK.WE.SHOULD.PUT.THE.CASTLE.IN.THE.GARDENS
23

Cassandra,

18/02/2009 00:52:02
Oh dear! How will parents with prams get up there?

Seriously, though, the Castle plays host to events like weddings and so on. I wonder how much business like this they'll get when the guests in their finery and 4-inch heels (and that's just the men) can't make it up the hill because the pavement is so narrow and the road is cobbled.
24

Dragonhead,

Dalian, China 18/02/2009 04:15:40
Major attractions elsewhere in the world have ski lifts,escalators etc.In tight as a snapper's *ss (and that is waterproof) Edinburgh, that would mean expense,ie money going out! Nay that would never happen.One of the reasons many major institutions in UK have failed is for the self same reason. Maximum PROFIT with nothing ploughed back in! One thing about Edinburgh which comes across loud and clear.It is without doubt one of the greediest overpriced citys on the planet.Food,transport and accommodation,First world prices with less than third world service by most.A total rip off!
25

piper,

12/06/2009 17:43:08
it,s not historical scotland it,s hysterical scotland they are a bunch of complete idiots even military transport cant park on the esplanade for any period of time. since they took over the castle everything has gone t@@,s up they are a bunch of jobsworth,s who dont have a clue .

 

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