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Published Date: 03 July 2009
RUBBISH is overflowing from bins across the Capital today as binmen continue their "go slow" industrial action over proposals to change the way they are paid.
Street bins across the city are starting to fill up quicker than the teams are emptying them – leaving litter falling on to the street.

Domestic and commercial collections have also been affected, with wheelie bins in several parts of the city left unemptied.

The city council today said it was continuing to work to try to resolve the situation.

Families are being told to leave green domestic wheelie bins out on the street even if they are not collected.

The collection of black bags has been hit by delays and the council is prioritising it because of the "increased litter potential from burst bags". Uncollected black bags should be taken in at night and returned on the next collection day.

The recent spell of hot weather is also adding to fears the situation could get worse.

Councillor Andrew Burns, leader of the Labour group on the city council, said today: "The council administration need to get a grip of this situation and bring an end to this work-to-rule as quickly as possible."

Refuse collectors began working to rule last week over plans to cut their pay as part of modernisation proposals currently being considered by the council.

Those currently on a wage of around £230 a week would lose around half of the £120 they receive in bonuses, amounting to around £3,000 a year.

Cllr Charles Dundas, who represents the city centre ward, said he had had a number of calls from people with concerns about overflowing street bins and missed domestic refuse collections.

He said: "I've had about half a dozen calls from people reporting non-collection or overflowing bins and have passed on their comments to the waste services manager.

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Cllr Gordon Buchan, who represents the Fountainbridge/Craiglockhart ward, said: "If the dispute continues, and the recent hot weather continues, the problem is going to get a lot worse."

The council said today that there were "severe delays" to garden waste and trade waste collection, while packaging banks and on-street refuse bins are being emptied at a reduced frequency.

There is to be no collection at all on Monday and, from Tuesday, residents are advised to leave domestic wheelie bins out even if not collected, although they are being told to bring in uncollected black bags at night and return them on the next collection day.

Andrea McHugh, head of environment at the city council, said: "We would like to thank our residents and customers for the patience they have shown so far and ask for their continued understanding while we work to resolve the situation.

"Every effort is being made to ensure that all refuse still awaiting collection is picked up as soon as possible."


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  • Last Updated: 03 July 2009 10:10 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Edinburgh Council
 
1

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 03/07/2009 11:57:09
The binmen have got not a bad number so they should just get on with their work,afterall they will have to clear it up anyway.
2

Hamish Simpson,

Embra 03/07/2009 12:17:04

This is a rubbish situation and the scaffies are treating the embra people like trash. The cooncil should sub-contract to a private operator as an interim measure.
3

Irked,

Edinburgh 03/07/2009 12:17:27
But Alfonsa - once this is over they will be able to claim overtime to do the clear up
4

Trams shams,

03/07/2009 12:18:35
Sack them fe God's sake. Let the private industry take on the lot.
5

DAVID,

Edinburgh 03/07/2009 12:26:27
Council employees on a go-slow........how can we tell?
6

Jackie Treehorn,

03/07/2009 12:34:58
#7 shut it!!
7

Foo,

03/07/2009 12:40:00
My bin man's in for a shock when he finally comes to collect my bin. I've spring loaded a trap that'll fire a jet of bin gunk in his face, then blow a big raspberry at him.
8

C.,

03/07/2009 12:51:25
i find it funny that the bin men are on a go slow, when were they ever anything different?
9

Lee John,

03/07/2009 12:56:57
Good for them.
10

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

03/07/2009 12:57:45
This story is rubbish.
11

Dorian,

Edinburgh 03/07/2009 13:18:03
#5 Too true
12

Jaco Pastorius,

Phnom Penh 03/07/2009 13:19:43
You are welcome to store any build-up of rubbish at my house. I have the world's largest wheelie bin. It's so big that one of its wheels is the size of a cheese round.
13

Koala Cubes,

03/07/2009 13:37:59
"Those currently on a wage of around £230 a week would lose around half of the £120 they receive in bonuses, amounting to around £3,000 a year."

What do they get their bonuses for?

With so many folk out of work why don't they just sack the lot of them and hire new workers? It's not like there's a lot of training involved. Pick up bag - throw in lorry - keep a spare bin bag to collect your bonus.
14

Jaco Pastorius,

Phnom Penh 03/07/2009 13:56:17
I can imagine you don't end your day smelling like a rose. There must be an awful lot of sexually repressed binmen in the world, though perhaps some of them marry women with a thing for garbage.
15

AndeeB,

Edinburgh 03/07/2009 13:57:26
See some of you folks, honestly - idiots. Tell me this then, seeing as some of you are sooooo brilliant. Would you like your wages cut down by hundreds, or in some cases, thousands, then expected to do the same job you have been doing for the last decade or so for less pay ?! Nah i didnt think so. So to all ye idiots who have no idea about whats going on SHUT IT ! Until it happens to you, which i hope it does !
16

Freddy,

Edinburgh 03/07/2009 13:57:48
#16 - their basic wage is not being cut, they are being asked to work the contracted hours, not go home early. As they will be working their contracted hours there will not be as much overtime, why should the residents of Edinburgh pay overtime for these people when they do not even do a full days work!
17

Duncan in Edinburgh,

03/07/2009 14:04:15
#18 I recently had my own salary cut by thousands, and am working harder and longer hours than I ever have done. But because I work in the private sector neither I nor the media find it worthy of comment, because frankly, there's a recession on, and it's better to have a job on reduced pay than have no job at all!
18

Trams shams,

03/07/2009 14:06:07
GH Edinburgh... Are you forgetting that it's protected for 3years and the pension 10years. In 3 years they'll be back to making money for nothing... Sack them... Sack the lot of them!
19

Trams shams,

03/07/2009 14:30:46
GH Edinburgh

And... Still protected for 3 years and still a final salary scheme. How many people would love those conditions for not working a lot of hours and getting bonuses?
Welcome to the real world.
These 'guys' typify the Council way. Money for nothing.
20

A Clamper,

Edinburgh 03/07/2009 14:35:05
GH Edinburgh - I agree. These guys do a great job and get little thanks for it. If I was in their position I would be considering strike action, never mind a "go slow".
21

Duncan in Edinburgh,

03/07/2009 14:39:57
#26 Really? My contracted working hours are 40 a week, but I regularly work 50+. Perhaps I should go on strike?
22

A Clamper,

Edinburgh 03/07/2009 14:47:44
#27 If you are happy to pay for the Bankers, more fool you.
23

New Town Resident,

03/07/2009 14:57:24
A. Clamper and GH .Agree with you 100%

By the way Duncan I work in the private sector too and my income has gone down with the recession too.

I think the rubbish teams that do our street are first class and work hard on a tough job.

I'd far rather my council tax went to these men who are doing a valuable and proper job than the council wasting it on trams, diversity advisors etc. etc.
24

Hamish Simpson,

Embra 03/07/2009 15:11:24

If it such a tough gig, why do they not just resign and go and be a doctor or a lawyer?
25

Vandala,

03/07/2009 15:29:07
#21. What do you want, a medal? The fact that you’re willing to be exploited by your employer all in the name of the gung-ho spirit is hardly something to be shouted from the roof-tops. But I suppose that is the Anglo-Saxon way.
26

Duncan in Edinburgh,

03/07/2009 15:38:16
#29 To answer your questions:

Yes, by about that much. I recognise that my hard work is needed to get us back to profitability and therefore previous/increased salary levels.

Public holidays were already treated as normal holidays by my company, have been since I started.

I work weekends and evenings quite commonly, but I'm not contracted to do so.

I start around 7am, and often work into the evening.

My pension fund has been slashed by a hell of a lot more than 30%! But I'm not stupid enough to blame the company I work for for the effects of a global recession.

And no, I don't get abuse from the public. At least, not as part of my job. ;-)

#30 I think they do a great job too. But I don't think they do a better job than me.
27

Duncan in Edinburgh,

03/07/2009 15:39:19
#33 Don't be pathetic. I'm pointing out that everyone is in this recession together, and going on strike won't increase the amount of money in the economy, only hard work will do that.
28

Herman The German,

03/07/2009 15:42:40
More gash journalism from the EEN, the above picture looks like it has been contrived by the photographer. The bin appears to be empty,the cardboard placed near it is to big to fit into the bin as are the other two bags.
29

Herman The German,

03/07/2009 15:50:06
#35
What were you like before you were perfect?
30

Duncan in Edinburgh,

03/07/2009 15:53:59
#38 Yes I do. But I'm not a refuse collector. I invested time and money in a university education, and have worked hard to achieve career success.

Do you acknowledge, having put me through 20 questions, that the plight of these workers is not unique, and that simply demanding more money be produced from thin air is not a solution? Or are you in fact not interested in discussing this, merely in parroting the one line that life is unfair and the powers that be should fix it?
31

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03/07/2009 16:43:55
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gordon aka smoker and proud,

edinburgh 03/07/2009 16:51:18
4 days on 4 days off, regular sight, skaffies in a bin motor eating and drinking special brew! ( i have pictures!) what the article really says its not the wages that are being cut but the unfair bonus, as stated previously, whats the difference between go slow and normal working? they do not have a hard job in any weathers, considering the money spent on protective clothing, they do have people skills, ignorant and arrogant! we pay more than enough in council tax and what do we really get? copme christmas they are always nice eh? hmmmmm tips come to mind! ma bum!talk about a hard job? they bins are on wheels, they lie outside your house the motor lifts then whatever the weight, where does your bin end up? never ever back where it came from, now thats customer care for you! the drivers block ever road at every chance! they are not getting a pay cut, rather they are getting a kick up the @rse to make them do the job they are contracted to do. they are public servants and should act that way,the looney lefties of the union do not realise that in this day and age the populace of this city want and demand more for what they are paying for! as stated previously, privatise the collections, let the lazy gits re-apply fortheir jobs with no extras and considering that the job is so simple and not in anyway heavy work (wheely bin=bin on wheels, motor with lifting gear=no lifting) and then lets see how many ofthem actually survive in their asigned employment.
33

Doctor who?,

03/07/2009 17:00:10
Gentlemen

The front line service providers at the council are losing up to £7000 per year but there is little mention of the middle to senior managers that are gaining similar amounts.

This will not save the council money. The seniour managers and many middle managers will be getting a wage rise through this process. So in reality they are robbing the poorer paid workers in order to feather their own nests.

34

Bob Marley The Wailer,

watching the tennis 03/07/2009 18:11:29
I am a refuse driver.i have had my hgv class 1 for nearly 20 years.i have a young family.i work because i dont want to be unemployed and while its not the best wage or job in the world,i think it shows an example to my children,that no matter what,you have to provide for your family,regardless of your job or the abuse you suffer on a daily basis from ignrant members of the public(you know who you are).
if this continues an the council are successful in stripping my wage back to minimum wage,im afraid i will be left with only one option......sell my house(because i cant afford the repayments)become one of the many newly unemployed.apply for council housing.then ill have my rent paid for me(by the council)my council tax paid for me(by the council)and ill work a lowly 16 hours a week and claim every benefit thats available to me as a single parent and ill probally be better off.
then ill be one of the dregs of society that doesnt want to work and is a strain on the public purse....BUT WHO"S PUTTING ME IN THAT SITUATION IN THE FIRST PLACE?
Maybe ill become a TRAM DRIVER,SOMETIME IN 2035 WHEN ITS FINISHED?
35

archie12,

03/07/2009 18:11:58
Duncan in Edinburgh - How come you recognise that the recession (predicted by many experts to be long term of the order of 10 years) is something that we should all recognise and act upon, and yet you continue to give unstinting support to the Tram project which has based its financial case on a bottomless pit of Scotland's money (don't say that the Project won't go back to Holyrood for more!!)plus financial contributions from a sector which has been decimated?
Your logic is .......well, illogical.
36

Goat Boy,

03/07/2009 18:26:10
Do you think freezing the council tax was a good idea? It might be a vote winner for Alex Salmonella, but the cracks are starting to show and it's going to get worse.
37

calum,

03/07/2009 18:43:14
#49 - Is everyone in your world a parasite? At least they are working and have a job, do you?
38

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03/07/2009 19:29:12
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39

Doctor who?,

03/07/2009 20:03:25
Your opinions of the bin men, regardless of how wrong they are are clouding your vision of what is really happening within edinburgh council.

The poorest paid workers are being robbed to pay for the managers wage rises yet all you idiots go on about is bin men and how they do nothing.

Waken up and smell the Shi@e, managers are getting up to £7000 per year wage rises and all you go on about is how little the bin men do. The managers raking in the big bucks are paid by you lot as well. Are they not public sector workers as well? Should they not be accountable to you also.

Doh!

40

piccaso,

edinburgh 03/07/2009 20:08:48
No,51 Mr 40 watts, or as bright as, tony has a point,binmen do break the rules but only to suit themselves, i have 3 mates who work on the bins and they are telling me what they get away with, some of them are sitting in the pub at opening time, normally around 12.30,ish, lazy sods, and yes i too would employ the polish imagrants to do there jobs...
41

hightower,

corstorphine 03/07/2009 20:19:01
Funny how they can empty bins in half the time,but cant when they work to rule.they get it done so they can get to there other work i.e jobs on the side.Bounus just for turning up what a joke.Paid for being sick[hunghover]its about time things where change.Socialising with bin men all they do is brag about only doing two to three hours work.
42

Rachel. S,

03/07/2009 20:20:58
I'd take my hat off to anyone whos job involves emptying the city's stinking bins and sweeping the sh***Y streets. Anyone else would be up in arms if it were there pay being cut, these guys do a more important job than a lot of people so give them a break. The public should show some support by for example doing some recycling. My Street is no exeption to this problem it's stinking in this heat yet it still doesnt stop people from dumping everything and anything at their a**e
43

in-the-know,

03/07/2009 20:35:05
Well think of the rats and how much the council charge to get rid of them. Cut the wages fill the city with rats then charge £90 a turn to get rid of a problem that the council started.

The council have ways of making money in this city its just that most of us don't notice it.

As for the seagulls, foxes and pigeons of course thats hard work so they don't do them we just have to put with the year on year increase.
44

is it me?,

Edinburgh 03/07/2009 20:43:53
Everyone knows that binmen are secret millionaires from selling other people's rubbish on ebay. You can sell anything on ebay.

...and they can't be trusted. I bid for a used Kentucky Fried Chicken meal deal last week and there was a bone missing
45

Dantheman,

Edinburgh 04/07/2009 01:03:06
#43

I happen to know a few guys that work for the council doing this. They have more manners than what you do in that comment you made. As for them being lazy? I know for a fact theres one man out there working for the council that puts his all into his job everyday. Now if everyone done that maybe the world would be a better place
46

HGVDRIVER,

EDINBURGH 04/07/2009 01:03:15
THANKS TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT AGREE WITH WHAT THE BIN MEN ARE DOING. TO THE ONE'S THAT DON'T LET SEE YOU GO FOR A JOB AND THEN TOLD THE WAGE IS LOW BUT THE BONUS BRING'S IT UP AND IF YOU RUN ABOUT DAFT, CROSS ROADS PUT TWO BINS ON AT ONCE ,OUT IN ALL WEATHER YOU CAN GET AWAY EARLY THEN SOMETIME DOWN THE LINE YOUR TOLD YOUR NOT WORTH WHAT YOUR ON AND YOUR GOING TO LOSE AROUND £160 A WEEK, LET SEE YOU SIT BACK WITH YOUR FEET UP AND TAKE IT.
47

Grumbleguts,

Leith 04/07/2009 10:52:49
64 HGV Driver -

I agree with you completely.
Binmen do a job I wouldn't want to do at any price.

They have an incredibly important job - as everyone will come to realise should there ever be an all out strike.
Ditch the trams and increase the cleansing department numbers if you want to improve Edinburgh.
48

Adso,

04/07/2009 11:19:52
What a lot of harsh comments on this thread. Binmen do a job and the city would be a dump if we had none. £16k a year is not a great wage and I think to cut it would be harsh. Collecting the refuse, or refuge as my old binman colleague used to call it is not a great job. In fact it's a pretty sh!tty and depressing job. In summer everything stinks and is swarming with wasps and flies whilst in winter its bloody freezing. Give the guys a break!
49

Another Whitewash,

04/07/2009 14:02:41
In reply to 41
I unfortunately have a university education I can’t even get a minimum wage job never mind £400 a week. I would love to get a job as a bin man or road sweeper.

 

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