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Motorist given parking ticket . . even though car had no wheels



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Published Date: 25 August 2008
AS excuses for being let off a parking ticket go, it has to be one of the most impressive.
But having all four wheels stolen was not enough to prevent one unlucky Edinburgh motorist being slapped with a fine by the city's Enforcers.

The parking attendant ignored the motorist's hand-written plea and decided that not being able to move the vehicle was not a good enough reason to prevent a £60 fine.

The silver Toyota Yaris had been targeted by thieves as it sat on a single yellow line overnight on Viewforth, Bruntsfield.

Discovering the theft on Friday morning, the motorist left a note reading "Dear parking attendant. Someone has stolen my wheels. Insurance company is arranging for pick-up this afternoon. Please don't give me a ticket. Thank you."

Neighbour Mike Pegg, 65, said: "I couldn't believe what I was seeing when I looked at the windscreen.

"Fancy putting a parking ticket on a car which simply could not move. It's just not fair."

Mr Pegg has lived in the area for more than 30 years and said that it was rare for such thefts to take place.

He said: "The person probably went to go to work and discovered they had no wheels.

"I never saw it myself, but apparently two traffic wardens approached the car and were seen using walkie-talkies, as if they were wondering what to do.

"Someone then apparently came in a van and it was decided a ticket should be issued. They even took photographs of the car. What was the poor owner supposed to do?

"There is a joke that parking attendants aren't allowed to think for themselves. I just think this is rotten – the car owner is clearly in bad enough trouble without this."

The car seems to have been parked overnight opposite Boroughmuir High School, as resident parking bays were full.

A zone eight, £80-a-year permit was clearly displayed on the rear, off-side passenger window, with the begging letter sticking out of the plastic casing.

Green Party councillor Alison Johnstone, who represents Meadows and Morningside, called for common sense.

She said: "Firstly, I extend my sympathy to the car owners, not only for having the misfortune of having their wheels stolen, but in dealing with this.

"It's clearly the final straw to get a parking ticket through no fault of their own. The council do themselves no favours at all through such decisions. This is quite clearly a unique situation."

The car has now been removed from the street.

Edinburgh City Council's parking attendants are recruited and managed by National Car Parks (NCP).

A spokesman for the firm said they would now examine their own photo evidence from the scene to determine whether the ticket was issued correctly.

He added: "It is unlikely that we would ever issue a ticket in the circumstances described but we will look into the matter."

• Were you the unlucky motorist? Contact the Evening News on 0131-620 8748.


The full article contains 509 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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1

Skip McClendon,

25/08/2008 12:17:46
I had a similar experience once when broken down. I was parked on a meter in the morning (all the residents bay being full with non-residents cars when I got home). In the morning, when the car wouldn't start, I called the garage to collect it and left a note explaining that I had broken down on the windscreen. The garage came to collect the car within the hour...by which time I had a ticket. Of course, none of this would have happened if the Council actually painted enough spaces for resident permit holders rather than just taking money for nothing.
2

C J,

25/08/2008 12:21:00
Skip,
Dance for your mammy ma poor wee laddie, oh dance for your mammy my wee son.......
3

Paddi,

25/08/2008 12:22:06
hahahahahaha, this story made my day, what a bunch of numpties
4

Wingman,

Edinburgh 25/08/2008 12:48:29
How can these jobsworths complain that they get a hard time when these plainly idiotic decisions are made by what can only be described as put very well above as 'complete numpties'. We have no targets 'honest guv' Aye right !!!
5

Interlard,

Edinburgh 25/08/2008 12:53:23
Sad, Bad and Mad!!!
6

Bob 2,

25/08/2008 12:59:32
no1 oldest one in the book, leaving a note to say my cars broken down.

How would the wardens know if your note was genuine, everybody would do this if they knew they would get away with it.

The Wheels one, does take some beating though
7

Finbarr Saunders,

25/08/2008 13:04:30
I bet it was the old parking attendant who was really rude and ignorant towards me for daring to stop and wait up a side street in Morningside for a couple of minutes on Saturday.

I wasn't causing an obstuction and I was sitting with my engine running, but the old jobsworth just couldn't help himself from rudely threatening me with a ticket if I didn't "f******g move it now".

His accomplice was a young lad with a pony-tail, who was perfectly civil and polite, but the old guy was the most ignorant old git imaginable.
8

The_Doctor,

25/08/2008 13:08:41
#6

True enough. But still very annoying though. It was the lack of space for permit holders that was the real problem in my case. Still not sure why anyone should pay £160 a year for a residents space in the city centre, only to have all those spaces full of tourist andf theare-goer's cars by the time one gets home from work.
9

Angus R,

25/08/2008 13:09:13
#7 think its an offence to sit with your engine running now
10

Anton Marionette,

25/08/2008 13:14:18
No targets? Aye right!
I overheard two of the vermin discussing how they would meet the target when every vehicle on their patch that day was parked legally.
11

The_Doctor,

25/08/2008 13:15:03
#10

No.
12

Wassup,

25/08/2008 13:30:35
A few years ago in Nicholson Square my wife stopped the car to give a motorcyclist who had come off his bike first aid and wait for the ambulance with him. The car door was open and there was a big commotion taking place just after the accident.

When she went back to the car for a blanket she saw the traffic person sticking the ticket to the windscreen approximately 4-5 yards away. She appealed and still had to pay.
13

The_Doctor,

25/08/2008 13:31:44
#13

They probably tried to ticket the bike too.
14

Niko Bellic,

Sing Sing 25/08/2008 13:35:56
I'm wheelie tyred of all these puns
15

The_Doctor,

25/08/2008 13:41:51
#15

Don't be deflated.
16

Craigie Boy,

Carluke 25/08/2008 13:44:52
This really amounts to nothing more than legalised extortion and the company ought not to have been issued with a contract in the first place. It shouldn't be too difficult to track down the individual who gave out the contract. I would suggest he or she be bombarded by mountains of pointless, rambling but ultimately answerable letters by the people of Edinburgh on a daily basis until he or she issues the contractor with sensible guidelines to work from.
17

Spotty Geek,

Wauchope Street 25/08/2008 13:48:51
6*

Yes but the owner of this car may have removed their wheels deliberately to avoid their car being stolen (they may have been going on holiday)

The warden did the right thing - but if it the owner can prove that the wheels were stolen then the ticket should be withdrawn.
18

alex patersons English teacher,

25/08/2008 13:49:03
wow, a traffic warden with 4 meter arms, thats impressive.

19

Statsman,

Edinburgh 25/08/2008 13:58:13
The council decriminalised parking and installed these halfwits. The council is ultimately responsible.

I am having trouble thinking of anything at all the council is actually good at.
20

The_Doctor,

25/08/2008 14:02:56
#20

Timekeeping. Offices deserted by 5pm. Earlier on a Friday, of course.
21

PG,

Edinburgh 25/08/2008 14:06:47
I parked on Castle Terrace to pop up and get my kids at the Castle. As I pulled in I noticed that their was a knackered and folded sign saying something about the bay being suspended but since there were other cars parked with no tickets (or pay and display tickets) I thought it old, especially as a traffic warden was leaning against the wall opposite watching me and he didn't wave me on. I walked past him but he didn't tell me the bay was suspended and of course when I got back all of 10 minutes later, I had a ticket. When I went online to pay and view the photos, the sign was all nicely flat and easily read. How fuming was I? My sister reckons everyone should challenge their tickets out of principle and to jam up the system.
22

Spotty Geek,

Wauchope Street 25/08/2008 14:12:24
The picture of this car with no wheels is what we often see here in Niddrie - the problem has got worse in recent years with drivers leaving their cars down here until they 'disappear' so that they can claim the insurance.
23

Axelfols,

25/08/2008 14:16:27
#1
Next time you moan that there's not enough resident spaces, why not consider others? Visitors who pay road tax can park where they like within reason. Where would you park a removal vehicle. or tradesperson vehicle when it comes to you? If you don't like the parking restrictions in the city. MOVE TO THE SUBURBS!!!
24

alex patersons English teacher,

25/08/2008 14:20:02
24
is that disappear like reggie perrin of niddire.
25

tomias,

Edinburgh 25/08/2008 14:20:06
market forces
26

Skip McClendon,

25/08/2008 14:36:03
#25

Residents also pay road tax - visitors are not alone in that. Yet residents also pay permits for spaces that do not exist.

Where would I park a removal vehicle or a tradesperson's vehicle? On a meter, or in a resident's bay with a special pass by prior arrangement.

Funny how objecting to being charged for something that doesn't exist makes me a moaner. Here you go #25, I don't have a nice new telly for you. That will be £1000, please.
27

The Sheriff,

25/08/2008 14:59:51
Ok so the wheels are not on the car now,I take it they were when the driver parked it on the yellow line?

So there you are,if the driver hadn't parked it on a yellow line and had parked the vehicle in a pay and display bay it would still have been issued with a pcn if it was not displaying a valid P&D ticket when restrictions were in force.

28

Skip McClendon,

25/08/2008 15:12:39
#29
#29

He/she probably parked on the yellow line because all the residents bay were full. The story says the car displayed a valid resident's permit. Presumably, had the wheels not been stolen the car would have been moved (either into a residents bay or to the owner's place of work before the parking restrictions came into effect at 8.30am.
29

Reality Cheque,

25/08/2008 15:31:42
28 - absolutely right. If you or I set up a business where we deliberately charged people for items that we knew did not exist, we would be rightly prosected for fraud. What the council are doing is simply legalised robbery. And then they wonder why voters hold them in such contempt...
30

frannylee,

penicuik 25/08/2008 15:34:04
best place to watch wardens booking cars is outside the Sick Kids. The b's know that parents lose track of time when they are at the A&E with their kids and forget when the tickets run out. Nice people!
31

Americanbob,

25/08/2008 15:40:56
#26 alex patersons English teacher,
Can you actually speak English, you certainly do not appear to be able to write it?
32

Journalistic licence,

In a parking bay 25/08/2008 15:40:57
funnily enough I saw a car with no wheels being driven through Bruntsfield the other night. I thought it was a bit strange and then this photo turns up in the EEN and explains it all.
33

Iona Bicycle,

25/08/2008 15:51:24
Parking wardens are only doing their job. Most car drivers will use any excuse to park illegally. The owner should be thankful that the theives did not steal the whole car.
34

Skip McClendon,

25/08/2008 15:57:15
#36

Kinda like those cyclists who will use any excuse to justify ignnoring the laws of the road / running red lights / riding on the pavement etc, etc.
35

Spotty Geek,

Wauchope Street 25/08/2008 16:03:23
I hate cyclists - never stop at traffic lights - just mount the pavement - police are hopeless too
36

Iona Bicycle,

25/08/2008 16:12:47
37 & 38. At least my exhaust is not killing you!
37

Skip McClendon,

25/08/2008 16:18:25
#39

The exhaust of this car isn't killing anyone either, since it's not moving.
38

Who let the dogs out?,

25/08/2008 16:19:06
You should also print a picture of the numpty traffic wardens!

they should be named and shamed.

39

alex patersons English teacher,

25/08/2008 16:20:54
34 americanbob

bob, are you the fool shilling or a cut above the rest.

prey may i ask, why the question mark.


40

Austin Bowels,

International Man of Dysentery 25/08/2008 16:25:23
39
Mine would!
41

Lexi Cographer,

25/08/2008 16:37:27
No. 42. Some English teacher indeed! Surely "prey" should be "pray" (unless you are thinking of pouncing on him), your own enquiry should end with a question mark and "patersons" should contain a possessive apostrophe and be capitalized, thus: Paterson's.
42

Julian.,

edinburgh 25/08/2008 16:37:28
Skip #1,

If you put a note on your car saying it had broken down how was the attendant supposed to verify that?
43

Skip McClendon,

25/08/2008 16:41:37
#46

Maybe by waiting longer than 15 seconds to slap a ticket on the car? The garage truck turned up shortly after restrictions started to tow the car away. Or maybe they could have called the mobile number I left on the note? Or actually read the note, explaining the circumstances?

Anyway, it all happened years ago so I don't really care now. The point is that attendants show no common sense or compassion when ticketing cars, as this wheelless car case demonstrates. Or the ambulance one. Or the good samaritan at the road crash one, etc, etc...
44

Cupid Stunt,

25/08/2008 16:42:30
45
easy, leave the keys in it and then the warden would be able to try for themselves.
45

Spotty Geek,

Wauchope Street 25/08/2008 16:52:20
It's time that the public were told what to do when they break down in the city centre and have to park on a single yellow line.

By law you are only allowed 5 minutes, but it is unlikely that the RAC will get to your car in this time.

Mybe you could display a coloured badge which would give you exemption from a ticket (like the disabled badges). You would need to buy this but get the cost refunded if you could prove that the breakdown was genuine.
46

Bonzo,

25/08/2008 16:59:14
#33 Yes, obviously people should be allowed to park outside the hospital for as long as they like. Thus making it difficult for other parents visiting their own children.
47

Julian.,

edinburgh 25/08/2008 17:05:01
Skip,

Yes, so they verify it by reading the note saying your car's broken down. Wait a minute. Maybe I'll just put a note on my car parked on a yellow line tonight saying that it's broken down as well.

As for phoning your mobile, well that's probably against their rules. Maybe that's something that could change.
48

Brian Ferrari,

25/08/2008 17:45:04
#44 Listen matey, there's a whole class of Alex Patersons, so it should be Patersons'.

49

Lexi Cographer,

25/08/2008 17:51:42
No 51. A whole class of them? Please excuse me while I curl up into the foetal position, suck my thumb and cry quietly.
50

conundrumking,

edinburgh 25/08/2008 18:24:54
#17 might not be too difficult to track the individual who MAY have had something to do with awarding the contract,as they no longer work for the council,i hear they're now working for err...erm..NCP!!!
51

alex patersons English teacher,

25/08/2008 18:43:51
44.
enquiry in deed,cant you see i was speaking to mark,dont interrupt.
52

GARY BARNA,

ASSARRET 25/08/2008 18:54:03


44/54


JACK IT IN!!
53

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

25/08/2008 19:02:21
whether or not it had wheels is irrelevant. if its parked illegally, then a ticket should be slapped on it.
54

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

25/08/2008 19:03:06
#55 - i'm tyred of these puns
55

Sue Baru,

impressed, eh? 25/08/2008 19:03:30
If they try that with my wheels the Enforcers will have some neatly stacked corpses to ticket.
56

GARY BARNA,

ASSARRET 25/08/2008 19:23:35


Once had a Fiat 600(long time ago). Left it parked for 5 minutes. When I returned the yellow peril had put a ticket on it claiming that it had been there for at least 30 min, according to his expertise , touching the bonnet and saying it was "stone cold". Should have seen his face when I told him the engine was in the back.
Cheerio dc.

57

Dr DoGood,

edinburgh 25/08/2008 19:52:43
simple solution put a note on windscreen
THIS IS NEW CAR OF THE CORNER SHOP OWNER PLEASE POP IN LATER FOR YOUR FREEBIES
they never get tickets so must be worth a try
58

alex patersons English teacher,

25/08/2008 20:19:42
55
car, no wheels, jack it in, brilliant.
wow, i thnk ill retire, just like the owner.

ny car has no wheels,
how does it smell
yaris.
59

Sue Baru,

impressed, eh? 25/08/2008 20:34:25
If the Enforcers want to improve their public image, they could get rid of all the bikes cluttering up stairwells. Every time I move to a new flat, my furniture gets scratched by pedals sticking out of bikes chained to the bannisters. The owners are never at home and when I finally get to speak to them, they think it's their God given right to obstruct everyone.
60

J4cko,

Edinburgh 25/08/2008 20:51:56
Why does everyone (including the News ) keep refering to parking attendants as traffic wardens when they are NOT.

Traffic wardens are employed by the police and enforce traffic regulations and ticket for obstructions and no road tax ect. They use descretion and more importantly common sense and do not have targets. They are there to enforce the Law.

Parking attendants on the other hand are there to enforce civil parking regulations laid out by local councils. They DO NOT use descretion, ticket everything and anything (probably even the police traffic wardens van)and have targets to make.They are there to make money for the council.

I wish people would see the difference and use common sense when refering to either.
61

Julian.,

edinburgh 25/08/2008 21:53:53
j4cko,

See my post number 45. I referred to them as attendants. Not that it really matters. Everyone knows who we're talking about. And on a point of even greater importance, it's Lothian buses, not LRT.

You're not a traffic warden by any chance? You seem to paint a very black and white picture of the two types of enforcers. But just to balance things up, I have met several attendants who have used discretion in their ticketing. At the end of the day, they're pretty much like the population at large. Some of them are idiots and @rseholes. Others are pleasant and reasonable.
62

Slightly Cynical,

Edinburgh 25/08/2008 22:08:35
I hope the EEN can trace the owner and publish the photo and wonder if the photo taken of this car will be shot to conceal the fact it had no wheels. Expect less than truthful disclosure from Enforcers.
If the owner had informed the police of the theft before the ticketing, ticket should be cancelled immediately.
63

Julian.,

edinburgh 25/08/2008 22:17:44
#65,

and what if he hadn't informed the police before the ticketing?
64

C U Jimmy,

Mauchline 26/08/2008 01:55:15
What kind of idiot's have we got in charge...you couldn't make it up?
65

Spotty Geek,

Wauchope Street 26/08/2008 09:33:01
Before we hear from the owner we should not jump to any conclusions.

The wheels may have been removed deliberately to stop the car being repossessed due to non payment.
66

Craig New Town,

City Centre 19/09/2008 13:35:49
I myself am not a driver and share little sympathy with people who park in the wrong place. Please note the wheels were stolen from the car, thus the car was already misparked and should recieve a ticket. Maybe these funds could have gone to helping the other transport problems city wide.

Having said this however it enrages me that on more than one occasion i have seen (and photographed) a group of 6 or more attendants walking in unison along my street.... overkill perhaps?
67

The 'Menace',

Edinburgh, 18/10/2008 18:00:32
..to #46.lol,
What about the Hearse,taking a body away,or..the Minibus,complete with Disabled kids,outside Lothian Rd?,if we look back,there's about 20 'Crappy' incidents,these 'Meanies',recently,in our fair City,it's a joke,now!!.

 

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