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Published Date: 16 February 2009
A SECOND woman has told how she fell victim to fraudulent door-to-door fishmongers after she paid nearly £400 for top quality salmon – only to be left with 30lb of worthless white fish.
The Evening News told last week how an 80-year-old woman in the Morningside area was duped into paying £350 for a similar quantity of lemon sole, halibut and sea bass, only to find that the product she was given was tasteless, full of bones and "unidentifiable".

Alison Waterson, 49, a retired nursing home director who lives in nearby Clinton Road, said she was also visited by one of the men fitting the description of the known fraudsters on the same day.

The two men – who were wearing wellies and blue overalls, and spoke with strong Newcastle accents – are now thought to have taken at least £750 on their rounds last Saturday.

Mrs Waterson said: "The men were offering salmon for £9.50 a pound, whereas it was costing me £12 a pound in Bruntsfield, so it seemed like a really good deal.

"They've been to my door before and spoken to my husband, but he wasn't interested at the time but said they were welcome to come back and speak to me, which they did. The chap I spoke to seemed really nice, and he offered to knock £40 off the price if I paid cash.

"He even offered to take me round to the cashpoint, but I decided just to pay by cheque and pay the extra money, so the whole thing came to £397.

"He told me it was his last round and that he'd throw in a couple of kippers for me as well, then he disappeared behind the gate with my cheque.

"He just dumped a white unmarked box on my doorstep and did a runner."

As with her elderly neighbour, Mrs Waterson put the fish in the pan and soon realised that she'd been duped.

She added: "I put it in a fish stew with lots of soy sauce and seasoning, so it was quite hard to identify anyway, but it definitely wasn't salmon.

"It just appeared to be some kind of white fish, but I couldn't say what it was.

"When I read about what they were up to in the paper I was kicking myself. You live and learn, I guess."

Dc Alistair Hutchens, of Lothian and Borders Police, warned others to be on the lookout for similar fraudsters.

He said: "We've had incidents like this in the past, and it seems to be rearing its head again.

"We recently searched a van and seized a number of items in connection with this type of crime. Our advice is, don't buy anything from anyone selling products door-to-door, or at the very least check the product before you hand over the money.

"It seems that these men have been presenting people with trays of very reasonable-looking fish when they're negotiating the sale, but the product they eventually produce is nothing like the products they demonstrate."

The man involved in both incidents is described as white, between 20 and 30 years old, 5ft 7in, with a round face and dark but greying hair. His partner is also white, 40-50 years old, 6ft and well built with brown hair.


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  • Last Updated: 16 February 2009 10:40 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

john3,

16/02/2009 11:56:42
Nothings fior nothing. She can stop the cheque anyway.
2

FrankGallagher,

16/02/2009 11:56:47
Cod sake!

Let them begin......
3

Foo,

16/02/2009 12:05:45
Top tip: Don't buy edibles from people you meet in pub car parks or come knocking on your door.
4

nSyratzcGlaw,

16/02/2009 12:06:24
"You live and learn, I guess."

No you don't.

I could go on, and I probably will quite soon.
5

nSyratzcGlaw,

16/02/2009 12:08:07
This woman must have a huge freezer, which by the look of her , she lives in.
6

JulesF,

Kirkliston 16/02/2009 12:08:34
Not only can she stop the cheque but the Bank can tell the Police the account it was paid into. All cheques are crossed A/C Payee only AIRC
7

Way Out West,

16/02/2009 12:11:33
There's definitely something fishy going on here.
8

bertiblunt,

16/02/2009 12:11:37
greed pure and simple, i have no sympathy for greedy people, who the hell needs 30lb of fish??.
9

Jenny Mac-Mac-Mac-Mac-Mac-Mac-Mac-Mac-MacArthur,

16/02/2009 12:12:43
Obviously these men are fundamentalist Christians trying to get rid of hideous diseased fishes caused by secret Christian genetic experiments in the top-secret fundamentalist Christian laboratories that we all know exist everywhere in the world bringing unspeakable suffering to the sane atheist tram-loving majority!!
10

nSyratzcGlaw,

16/02/2009 12:14:53
As I've explained before, halfwits need fish - and lots of it.

They are powerless when presented with a huge box of fish which costs hundreds of pounds.

Its one of the mysteries of life.
11

bertiblunt,

16/02/2009 12:15:01
#9 marry me jenny
12

blackley,

Edinburgh 16/02/2009 12:16:24
Don't buy stuff on the doorstep. She's old enough to know that.
13

Foo,

16/02/2009 12:19:48
"A fool and his money are easily parted with fish"
14

nSyratzcGlaw,

16/02/2009 12:22:39
I wonder if this would work with Sausage Rolls ?

how much could i get for a huge box of sausage rolls If turned up at someones door dressed as a master baker ?
15

Foo,

16/02/2009 12:28:23
knock knock

Hello?

Oh, hi, I'm just up from Newcastle today selling Viagra. As you can see, my white overalls prove that I am involved in the pharmaceutical business. Now normally these pills costs in the region of £200, but today I'm in a position to let you have them for £150 each

Sounds fair to me.

I'll even walk you to the cash machine and watch you withdraw the money!

Wow!

Can I interest you in a totally legitimate deal whereby you would shelter £1 trillion for my Nigerian friend and receive half; all for doing nothing?!

Can you ever!

Here, email this guy. Now close your door. That's right, all the way shut.
*Dumps bag of M&M's and runs*
16

Linmal,

Livingston 16/02/2009 12:33:57
My mum always said people from Morningside were all pianos and kippers. In other words fancy houses but couldn't afford to put decent food on the table. Now they are trying to buy cheap fish and finding it is rubbish. My mum also always said that you only get what you pay for and she would rather have a small amount of quality than a large amount of rubbish. Seems mum was right. They deserve all they get for being so gullible. As I said before, sounds fishy to me!

Don't buy on the doorstep but, if you must, make sure you inspect the goods carefully first.

If I were this lady I would be too embarrassed to come forward in public for being so thick.

Now go away and leave us in peace.
17

Voice o reason,

Innerspace 16/02/2009 12:47:55
Mibbee it was Hector Brocklebank wi a ton o Haddock.....

18

nSyratzcGlaw,

16/02/2009 12:52:43
Thats all fine linmal , but wait until the fishy on a little dishy men turn up at YOUR door.

Before you know it , you will be carried away in a fish frenzy , little cod signs in your eyes and youll be doon the almondvale clearing out your bank account before you know it.

I am a Master Baker and I will be Master Baking in front of your house soon.
19

Rambo The Jambo,

16/02/2009 13:06:29


# 18 nSyratzcGlaw,

I thought we were already having a mass debate.

20

Simon M,

Edinburgh 16/02/2009 13:10:29
She'll have known it could be dodgy, but took a gamble just for the halibut - and ended up losing out to the tuna 400 squid. I've haddock up to here with people like her and her tale of roe.

21

Sir AIbert x2,

16/02/2009 13:10:39
#15 You are just not funny and never will be!!
22

Angus R,

16/02/2009 13:13:31
The older one must have been The Codfather as he was covered in musssels.

Two parrots sitting on a Perch when one says to the other - can you smell fish?

I'll get me coat!

23

Farky,

Edinburgh 16/02/2009 13:21:47
They could have have at least chucked in a free jar of tartar sauce. The cheek of it!
24

James2122,

16/02/2009 13:25:32
Well surely she should have noticed it wasnae salmon when she opened the box. Since it is was white fish and not salmon pink!

Anyways my advice to you all is dont buy any food from people at the door, they could be trouting any old carp.

Seriously it could have been condemned i.e. not fit for sale!!
25

Farky,

Edinburgh 16/02/2009 13:25:44
Looking at that photograph it looks like Alison needs a good steak inside her. She could have at least put some lippy on as well :o)
26

Way Out West,

16/02/2009 13:25:46
They must have got the fish from MUSSELburgh.
27

nSyratzcGlaw,

16/02/2009 13:27:25
26

get out of town.
28

Sister Morag,

Lasswade 16/02/2009 13:30:32
Would it not have been glaringly obvious that it looked nothing like salmon? As soon as this was spotted she could've stopped her cheque...which would have saved her the time and effort of crawling to the EEN with a tedious non-story
29

The Hon. Liam Fairtod,

16/02/2009 13:32:57
Why does a 49 year old retired nursing home director need £400 of fish?? Even if it was worth £500.

I can't imagine she's the Sole provider in her household anyway...
30

James2122,

16/02/2009 13:33:26
#26 nice one hahahA







31

elayne,

16/02/2009 13:33:40
#16 pianos and kippers,,never heard that one,only fur coat nae drawers
#18 if they came to my door id tell them to fish off and set my cat on them,,,"iggy,,,KILL"
32

Foo,

16/02/2009 13:36:26
#21 - Haha, yeah whatever. I'm at least having a laugh, unlike you.
33

Sir AIbert x2,

16/02/2009 13:43:23
#32 Laughing at your own posts, but nobody else is!!
34

nSyratzcGlaw,

16/02/2009 13:44:35
People in Morningside have Four Pianos and nae kippers.

You'll have had your satie.
35

Vivas,

Edinburgh 16/02/2009 13:47:35
The best part of 400 quid to buy 30lbs of perishable foodstuff of unknown origins ????

The 80 year-old has an excuse...but the 49 year old ??? Gimme a break !!!!
36

Foo,

16/02/2009 13:51:01
#33 - Why is your obsession with me in particular?
37

p.n.f.o.bologna,

Edinburgh 16/02/2009 13:52:20
To be fair it probably isn't the brightest thing she has ever done but she didn't know they were con men for crying out loud!!! Give the woman a break! She can also spend £400 on whatever the heck she likes. Get over yourselves.
38

JulesF,

Kirkliston 16/02/2009 14:09:04
#17 Judging by the photo it would more likely be his Trout pout ?
39

Linmal,

Livingston 16/02/2009 14:14:24
#18 - Not me. I never buy anything at the door. Don't even donate to charity in this way (although I do make donations but to known charities at their proper addresses). Don't bite and you won't get caught. (sorry about that last one - just couldn't resist!)
40

Micjonger,

Peterborough 16/02/2009 14:16:23
She's so gullible.

She must have known it would be red herrings from Arbroath.
41

nSyratzcGlaw,

16/02/2009 14:22:25
Is Alison a retired nursing home director , or a "retired" nursing home director or just a big stupid radge ?
42

Canadianjambo,

Pickering 16/02/2009 14:36:47
Can't believe she actually ate it!!! Must have figured she might as well have it just for the halibut!!
43

Stevie Mac,

Edinburgh 16/02/2009 14:41:39
Imagine getting yourself in a guddle for a saving of £2.50 per pound? Good job she paid by cheque. I may go along to her's later to flog her my anti doorstep fraud detection software. It normally retails for £89.99 but given her tragic loss from the salmon scam I will let her have it for £85.
44

Stevie Mac,

Edinburgh 16/02/2009 14:44:01
"Latest victim conned by rogue salmond salesmen"

Would have been so much better.
45

Brian Ferrari,

16/02/2009 15:54:40
A retired nursing home director should not be getting into fish trading with likely Geordie characters.

Know your plaice Mrs Waterson, know your plaice...
46

Diana,

Edinburgh 16/02/2009 16:23:51
"A fool and his money are soon parted..."

What on earth did she need with £400 worth of fish, salmon or not? She should have been able to tell the difference between salmon and white fish the moment she opened the box...
47

The Judge,

16/02/2009 16:27:18
49? Is that her showbiz age?

48

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 16/02/2009 16:43:22
What would anyone want with 400 quid's worth of fish? Is she running a fish restaurant in her spare time or something?

If it's this easy to get people to part with their cash, I may be in the wrong line of business at the moment.
49

just-whatever-eh,

DR/F1/MO2 16/02/2009 17:18:48
#5 - excellent post

So many unanswerables here:

How come she is retired at the age of 49?

Why does she need all that fish?

Why did her husband initially knock them back from the door, but said they could come & speak to her?

Why would you agree with a stranger to take you to a cashpoint to withdraw money from your account? Could you not get mugged doing so?

Isn't the daily withdrawal limit at the cashpoint typically £300?

Why did she not cancel the cheque?

Does she not know the person or company name that they claimed to be as did she not have to write this on the cheque?

Why can the police not get a trace on the funds to see which bank account they have gone to?

Why did she eat it?

Does she not know what colour salmon is?

What difference does all this make anyway as she cooked it with lots of soy sauce and couldnt notice the difference between it and salmon?
50

Douglas,

Bathgate 16/02/2009 17:21:19
Serves her right. It's payback for her jaggy clothes pegs and unlucky white heather.
51

Douglas,

Bathgate 16/02/2009 17:22:46
Looks a bit like chicken but I've no idea what's on the plate.
52

Brian Ferrari,

16/02/2009 17:36:17
#49

she's just a wimmin
53

nSyratzcGlaw,

16/02/2009 18:28:57
49

Sssh.

Where would we be , and where would the evening news be if all Edinburgh Halfwits stopped doing bizarre things then phoning up "the paper" to .. well I dont know .. to publish it here so we can all take the tash out of her ?

Thank Goodness for FishCrazed radges.

Douglas, loved the jaggy clothes pegs



54

subrosa,

16/02/2009 18:30:52
£397 on fish from a doorstep salesman? She's obviously a banker who doesn't know the value of anything.
55

is it me?,

Edinburgh 16/02/2009 19:43:03
I've got better things to do than sit here reading all your smart comments.
I'll be up all night dividing my hoard of Magic Beans into £50 baggies.
56

is it me?,

Edinburgh 16/02/2009 19:59:17
I'd pay £9.50 for a pound of Salmond.

Maybe it's the Shylock in me.
57

just-whatever-eh,

16/02/2009 21:04:00
Roboter on a bit of a roll there - #63 will be lucky to remain though.

Anyway, there's something up with the maths in this story as well.

£9.50 per pound of "salmon" & she bought 30 pounds - that's a total of £285.

The guy also offered to knock £40 of the price by cash - so that's £245.

She decided however to pay by cheque, so no cash discount - that came to £397.

So they have charged her £112 extra JUST for paying by cheque.

Or, she bought 41 pounds of fish with a nominal fee for paying by cheque.
58

is it me?,

Edinburgh 16/02/2009 21:12:37
#64
Are you new here?
59

is it me?,

Edinburgh 16/02/2009 21:46:20
'There's a plaice for us'
60

is it me?,

Edinburgh 16/02/2009 21:49:08
'Catch a falling crab and put it in your jockstrap'
61

is it me?,

Edinburgh 16/02/2009 21:50:22
'Oh Roes Marie, I love you'
62

im brian and so is my wife,

edinburgh 16/02/2009 21:51:21
did they fall hook line and sinker on this one?
police were reported as casting a wide net to catch them
63

is it me?,

Edinburgh 16/02/2009 21:51:50
'Whale meat again'
64

nSyratzcGlaw,

16/02/2009 23:01:10
Where can I get a pack of jesus fingers . I dont want the twenties just the tens because some of them will be jesuseses toes. Mind you he wore sandals.

 

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