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Tuesday, 3rd November 2009 Change Date Latest Issue

Gobsmacked gran sent 1p council tax demand

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Published Date: 03 November 2009
A GRANDMOTHER has spoken of her shock after receiving an unexpected bill from the city council – for 1p.
Doris Nelson, 73, said she was gobsmacked when the letter arrived at her Royston home, advising her that her council tax benefit had been overpaid.

She said: "I couldn't believe it. I know these letters are probably churned out by a computer, but how much does it cost to send me this and how many more like this are being sent out at a time when the council is trying to make efficiency savings?"

The grandmother-of-one recently moved to a new house on Royston Mains Crescent having lived further up the street in a flat for 20 years.

The pensioner said she had received a string of letters from the local authority regarding her council tax before moving last month, with this final one arriving in the last fortnight.

She said: "I was getting them all the time. It got to the stage I didn't want to open them any more. At one point, I was told I was in arrears and then the council ended up owing me money.

"When I phoned about this letter, I asked the man on the phone what to do. I told him I owed the council a penny and how should I pay it. I asked whether it was best to come in a taxi or by cheque?

"He started laughing. He told me to forget about it in the end."

Susie Squire, political director of The Taxpayers' Alliance, described the situation as "absurd", revealing she had never heard of someone being chased for such a small amount.

She said: "Never for a penny, sometimes for £5 or £10 but not this. I am sure there was no bad intention here, but there should be more checking to prevent such worry and waste in the future."

Green councillor Alison Johnstone – who told yesterday how she was sent a recorded delivery letter from the same floor as her office – said it was another example of council waste.

She said: "This does not make the council look very compassionate or efficient.

"It's concerning if we are worrying citizens who have made an effort to make sure they are up to date with payments.

"It's about being sensible. Perhaps it's time the council adopted a policy whereby if it is costing more to send out a letter than we're getting back, maybe the amount should be written off."

Convener of the finance and resources committee, Councillor Phil Wheeler, said it would not be appropriate to comment on the details of an individual's account.

He said: "I can say, however, that if the amount given in council tax benefit to a claimant is recalculated due to a change in circumstances, then legally that must be communicated in writing.

"The claimant is not asked to pay the bill separately – the change would be set against the claimant's council tax account."

He added: "In these challenging financial times, ensuring that the council communicates in the most efficient manner with people in Edinburgh is a top priority.

"There are plans to move to providing an e-billing option to further help reduce postage and reduce our use of paper."


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  • Last Updated: 03 November 2009 9:43 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

The Pragmatist,

03/11/2009 12:01:27
hey, tasteful rings!
2

Skip McClendon,

03/11/2009 12:08:34
With the penny she has now saved, she could take a trip to that swish new Council public convenience. Oh, wait...
3

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 03/11/2009 12:10:28
Tell them where to go Doris and have your 1p made into a ring.
4

Heedbanger,

03/11/2009 12:13:51
1p?? Could buy Nade for that.
5

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03/11/2009 12:34:49
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6

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03/11/2009 12:37:22
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7

Didgeridoo,

03/11/2009 12:45:12
#6 She probably has no experience of life, is naive, and clueless = green. All core skills for a job with CEC.
8

Who let the dogs out?,

03/11/2009 12:48:58
Another great evening news article
9

korndog,

reality 03/11/2009 12:50:48
check out those sovvies! Chavtastic!
10

Hmm?,

03/11/2009 13:03:58
"He said: "I can say, however, that if the amount given in council tax benefit to a claimant is recalculated due to a change in circumstances, then legally that must be communicated in writing."

So there you go. Another non-news story. What is with the Evening News and these tedious "stories"?

Yesterday we had the Councillor and recorded delivery letter whinge story that turned out to have a legal reason for being sent recorded delivery and today we have the same sort of nonsense.

Speaking of which, I could rapidly grow tired of Green councillor Alison Johnstone if she doesn't stfu...
11

Hmm?,

03/11/2009 13:05:56
Is that a photo of Doris or have the new printed one of Frank carson by mistake?
12

Nick Nick,

Edinburgh 03/11/2009 13:08:06

#11 It's the way you tell them!
13

Big Tam fae The Pans,

03/11/2009 13:12:04
Hurray ! Its the old schemie halfwit gets 1p bill story !

If i could be bothered i would paste the other 450,000 schemie halfwit gets 1p bill stories but i cant>
14

Rambo The Jambo,

03/11/2009 13:27:28

Royston Mains, knuckledusters, FFS even I am scared!

BTW when I worked for an office that automatically processed over or underpayments, the office staff had no say on how little the payment could be, it was automatic. Computers can't tell the difference between 1p and £100.

Idiots like her should realise that before spouting off to the EEN.

And, it isn't lawful to set a cut-off point, for example, 50p, where it then becomes economically viable to send out bills.

15

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

03/11/2009 13:57:27
Pay it at a Post Office using Transcash. That'll cost them quite a bit to collect that 1p.
16

JT,

03/11/2009 14:08:13
Once more the total incompetence of the revenue and benefits office is exposed. I have been sent another bill which had the amount of remaining repayments reduced from 4 to 2 with no explaination and when asked they said they would get back to me - Im not holding my breath. We moved house and it took 3 months to get a bill that was correct. As for e billing, whilst this is eco freindly its a bit pointless to those who dont have a pc at home and noone will accept a printed copy of a bill as proof of id/address.
17

Crivvens,

03/11/2009 14:17:03
15 Great , so we we have to pay even more council tax
18

Paul Voltaire,

03/11/2009 14:19:54
I remember when you could have a good night out for a penny.
John Gibson still does it.
19

alba nach,

Tarbert 03/11/2009 14:37:12
So what exactly is the story here? The law says the council had to communicate this to her. She got a letter that said she was a penny in arrears, but was it a bill? Was she actually asked to pay the penny?

Or did the council simply fulfill their legal obligations by sending the letter?
20

Bamba,

03/11/2009 15:08:02
The agenda is privatisation of all public services by churning out stories of public service inefficiency. Simple as that. BTW Taxpayers Alliance is just a pressure group of fat cats.
21

is it me?,

Edinburgh 03/11/2009 21:04:11
I think Mrs Nelson should send her penny to help feed all the hungry babies in Africa.
Then they can grow up big and strong.
And then she should send more pennies so dey can all buy der own assault rifels maannn.
And den dey can kill all de white honkypeepel wid all de spare pennies what aint deservin of dem.
22

nom nom nom,

04/11/2009 09:47:37
she looks gobsmacked right enough
23

daveontheshore,

embra 11/11/2009 10:54:36
hey! i'm a gobsmacked grandad,

received 1p demand from HBOS (interst due ?) last month.
ignored said missive and received another this month plus 78p (more interest, 790%?). well at least it was worth the journey this time.

and lets face it, they need it more than me.

 

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