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Published Date: 02 September 2009
A DOG owner was left horrified after her Staffordshire bull terrier was viciously mauled by a collie during its daily walk in the latest in a spate of dog attacks in the area.
Karen Ofinski-Fogarty said it was the second time that her "soft" and "kind-natured" Staffie Lucy has been targeted in the Braid Hills.

And it follows a series of apparently unrelated dog attacks in the area in recent months.

Mrs Ofinski-Fogarty, from Colinton, said that Lucy was first attacked last September when a mongrel tore her ear and caused a huge gash across her head. She required emergency surgery.

The three-and-a-half-year-old Staffie was attacked again on Monday night while she was playing in the park.

She said: "They were just running around together when suddenly the dog lunged for her eye.

"Lucy was screaming like I had never heard before, there was blood pouring from the wound. She nearly lost her eye."

Mrs Ofinski-Fogarty said the incident proved that bull terriers were not always the vicious animals they are portrayed to be. She said: "Staffies get a lot of bad press but mine is the most beautiful, sweetest dog you could ever meet."

The Evening News has already reported on the case of Diana Currie's dachshund Tasha, who nearly died after a mastiff-like dog savaged her at the Braid Hills.

The pet had to be rushed to hospital to undergo surgery while police mounted an investigation. It then emerged that other dog owners had reported a spate of similar attacks in the area.

SSPCA Chief Superintendent Mike Flynn said any dog, regardless of breed, could be aggressive through lack of training.

"It is ultimately the responsibility of the owner to ensure that their pet is kept under control at all times."

He added that a Control of Dogs Bill is currently going through Parliament, which would place a duty on the owner of an out of control dog to keep that dog under control at all times.

Meadows/Morningside Councillor Mark McInnes said: "This is very concerning, it's a pretty basic pleasure of living in this area that you can take your dog walking in the Braid Hills.

"The onus is on owners if they know their dog isn't well behaved not to use popular dog walking areas."


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  • Last Updated: 02 September 2009 9:31 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 02/09/2009 11:55:14
Its bad when any dog gets hurt but,this makes a change,a staffie being attacked by a Collie.
2

,

02/09/2009 12:01:07
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malcyh,

02/09/2009 12:01:59
If both dogs were on leads in the public place (which by law they should be) this would never have happened
4

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02/09/2009 12:10:37
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5

Daft Old Git,

02/09/2009 12:11:46
#3
What law is that?
6

malcyh,

02/09/2009 12:13:16
# 5 - The law that says a dog must be on a lead in a public place.
7

Curious Yellow,

Edinburgh 02/09/2009 12:13:56
#5 - my thoughts exactly. Too many people make up these "laws" whenever it suits them.
8

Random,

02/09/2009 12:14:53
Collies by nature are not vicious dogs, they will N I P if they feel threatened, so this collie must have felt threated or was nipped at by the staffie,

haha can you believe it they flashed up the word N I P as unsuitable
9

Curious Yellow,

Edinburgh 02/09/2009 12:15:31
#4 - something tells me your rather arbitrary figure will mean many of those you regard as 'scum' will actually be eligible to own a dog!
10

Foo,

02/09/2009 12:19:04
#9

Arbitrary figure? No, it was taken as the everage annual income - ~£22000 if you want to get picky. It'll keep those on benefits from owning a dog immediately.

Most neds are dole scum.
11

Hibsterical,

02/09/2009 12:25:02
Foo, for the sake of your own sanity, please tell me you're on the wind-up. If you're being serious, try the Daily Mail website, you'll enjoy it there with all the other fascists.
12

Daft Old Git,

02/09/2009 12:25:03
#7
Ah yes.. The Macyh Further Powers (Braid Hills )Act 2009.
I forgot about that.
13

S Wilson,

02/09/2009 12:25:44
Just goes to show that it's all to do with how well (or badly) the owner trains their dog.
One time my wife and I were out walking in the Pentlands when a golden retriever ran at us aggressively, barking and baring its teeth. When I asked the owner if he thought his dog was under control he replied "he won't hurt you". If your dog has a propensity to be aggressive then it should be kept on a lead or muzzled - end of. Control of dogs bill sounds like the way forward. Hope Lucy makes a full recovery.
14

Petroll head,

02/09/2009 12:29:28
You're losing it Foo, best get back to subtle trolling.

Still you'll get few bites no doubt.

Pull up those kegs and get a job if you want a pet.
15

onetimeonlyagain,

Inch 02/09/2009 12:31:48
The problem with the braids is that people think its acceptable to just let their dogs run around off leash, I will admit I have done that before but that was until a Jack Russell Terrier lunged at my dog from no where! My dog is also a JRT Mix, but doesn't have the same agression most JRT's have! So since then, I have kept him on a leash when i go up there!
16

Bling Crosby,

Edinburgh 02/09/2009 12:37:46
I'm with Foo on this one. Licenses are part of the answer here.

No tinks should be allowed to own dogs.

PS
GIVE THAT COLLIE A TIN OF PEDIGREE CHUM. GOOD ON IT.
17

Bling Crosby,

Edinburgh 02/09/2009 12:38:29
#15

Jack Russell's are giant rats. That's not a real dog.
Do you keep it in your handbag?
18

Foo,

02/09/2009 12:38:32
11

No, I'm not. And I bet a lot of people agree with me.

What could you have against dog licences? Drive around any poor estate in Edinburgh and you'll see nutters walking about with all sorts of vicious breeds. Dogs are fast becoming a weapon of choice for the lawless. That's just a fact, there's no way you can deny this.

And how can anyone living on benefits possibly afford to look after a dog? It's impossible. Dogs require training classes, equipment, vet bills, food, grooming and regular treatment for minor ailments, if they are properly cared for.

Owning a dog should be like getting a mortgage. You apply, your personal situation is evaluated and if it is suspected you don't have sufficient means to provide a certain standard of care, your application should be rejected.

Why have people got it into their heads that anyone can have a dog? This isn't the case. It's a fact that, perhaps unfairly but that's life, only the better off can and should be in a position to provide a safe environment for a dog.
19

onetimeonlyagain,

02/09/2009 12:42:08
Number 17 - If you read, it said JRT MIX - key word being MIX, not sure with what, but he is bigger than your average JRT, and has a lovley nature, would lick you to death! I don't like handbag dogs. If I were to put him in my bag, I don't think he would be best pleased.
20

totally indecent,

02/09/2009 12:43:27
Right beside you Foo. The neds think the PDSA is a free vet just for them.
21

onetimeonlyagain,

02/09/2009 12:44:11
Also, I agree with Foo, when we went to get our Dog, there was no questions asked about how we would care for him etc, thankfully he is well cared for, but it just makes you wonder! Dog Licencing should be brought back!
22

Sheep Worrier,

Ulduar 02/09/2009 12:50:39
I was suprised to find that the dole scum get an extra £15 a week from the social services if they own a dog!
23

Skullduggery,

02/09/2009 12:51:14
Please "first on again" alfonsa pedrosa #1

show some remorse !
24

Lebowski,

02/09/2009 13:02:04
I see Foo is posting naive and ignorant comments again.

There are plenty of families earning less than a combined £20000 per annum, who look after their dogs very well.

Dog licensing is a good idea though.
25

the plum,

02/09/2009 13:07:45
ahhhhhhhh.... foo...i don't earn that much...but i am not a ned nor am i on the dole... i woud love to have a dog...the only thing stopping me getting one is the fact that i rent and live in a flat and it would be unfair to the dog to keep them in a flat all day... idon't think having money makes you more responsible.
26

digestive biscuits returns,

02/09/2009 13:08:01
You could get little doggy number plates for them.
27

Foo,

02/09/2009 13:09:50
24

To be honest the £20,000 was just plucked from the air as an example figure, going by what the average (decent) household made. A mother and a father each earning an extremely low wage (£10k each?) could still meet this.

I think you're missing my point though, which is that I think there should be a decision process behind allowing people to own dogs.

But if it makes you happy, as I know you have a particular dislike for me, you focus on your misunderstanding of the £20k thing, no probs.
28

Foo,

02/09/2009 13:15:47
25

Exactly. You are responsible enough to know that as a single person, you could not properly care for a dog on your own.

That's my point. Perhaps I emphasised the wage thing too much. Think more 'sufficient income coupled with ability to care for'

And DSS need not apply.
29

the plum,

02/09/2009 13:17:07
foo...

i think the 20k thing is afr too high...you usually speak with compassion...i feel in this case you lacking in that department...you ar judging people on their income...you are many things but not a snob surely...
30

the plum,

02/09/2009 13:19:20
i think i could look after a dog on my own though...i just would not want to have a dog whilst living in a top flat...i think it depends on the individual circumstances...not the wages...i would love a dog...how much is that doggy inthe windae?
31

Dood,

02/09/2009 13:19:28
Moving back to the story...

Who the hell calls a Staffie "LUCY"????

Unless of course it's short for Lucifer.
32

the plum,

02/09/2009 13:22:17
whoa foo whoa ...

And DSS need not apply. ... whoa dude...you seem pretty wound up today about those who have fallen on hard times DSS doesn't spell SCUM you know...maybe the comfort and companionship of a dog is just what some of these folk need... ?

thoughts? comments? cuppa tea...

come on let's hug it out.


33

Randy Picket-Fence,

02/09/2009 13:44:37
#32. Foo is simply a more erudite version of Gorgie Tony.
34

Foo,

02/09/2009 13:45:16
32
lol

Ok, you get this jist of what I mean. Just had it up to here with neds.
35

WackAttack,

Edinburgh 02/09/2009 13:57:37
I feel sorry for you Foo. Do you have any friends with that horrible attitude of yours?
36

WackAttack,

Edinburgh 02/09/2009 13:59:06
Foo your comments should be in the Daily Heil.
37

Foo,

02/09/2009 14:20:10
#35 You're part of the problem. How can someone on benefits possible afford a dog. You explain it.

You and your kind have ripped society to pieces. Your thoughts are always with the thugs as being 'misunderstood' victims of society, and not what they actually are - mindless animals who know your sort will let them, literally, away with murder.

Hang your bearded head in shame (yes I know you’re a woman).
38

4pawsnocause,

braids vicinity 02/09/2009 14:21:50
"soft" and "kind-natured" Staffie, I know this not to be true! This dog has attacked my dog on severaly occasions. The een needs to get its facts right before publishing. If this dog is innocent so is gary glitter!
39

Big Smoke,

02/09/2009 14:22:32
Which one in the picture is the Staffie that got attacked?
40

the plum,

02/09/2009 14:44:58
38 4pawsnocause

is that true...are your facts straight? seriously, did the dog in this article attack your dog on several occasions?
41

Glen Haig,

Leith 02/09/2009 15:05:43
Speaking as a postie I can tell you that Collies can be dodgy, don't be fooled by Lassie. Yorkshire Terriers are the worst, though.
42

Karen OF,

02/09/2009 15:56:16
38 4pawsnocause

I'm Lucy's owner, can you enlighten me as to when your dog was attacked by her? I have no recollection of these events, Lucy is a typical terrier who plays a bit rough at times - if your dog was "attacked" by her, and several times at that, why didn't I know about it?

For the record - I have a responsible job, I own my own home and car, I realise that many staffies are unfortunate to be owned by "neds" or thugs and are used as a status symbol. This is the reason the dogs are viewed so negatively. Any dog can be vicious - this is the point I was trying to put across ny contacting the EEN. I have no bad feelings towards the owner of the collie - however I have since heard that other dogs have been attacked by this dog - surely dogs that are known to be dog aggressive should have a muzzle?
43

brad0309,

Edinburgh 02/09/2009 15:58:30
4pawsnocause. So by your logic, any dog that has had a fight with/attacked another can never be innocently attacked in the future.

I know this dog very well, and know that it has had emergency surgery twice after being attacked by other dogs. The owner of the other dog has admitted liability. Thus, so I suggest it is you that gets YOUR FACTS correct, as the EEN are in fact correct this time.
44

Karen OF,

02/09/2009 16:01:02
39 Big Smoke

It is a rather unflattering picture isn't it? Lets see your mug then!!
45

brad0309,

Edinburgh 02/09/2009 16:02:53
PS. Both my wife and I have had collies, and recently we had our kids around staffies. I can assure you that I feel more comfortable around staffies than I do collies. I've had to apologies more times when walking a colley to other owners, than I ever have with a staffy. Well sed Kaz, its about time that negative press towards this lovely breed is turned on its head. As you have quite rightly pointed out, it is individual dogs that are the issue, or most probably their irresponsible owners.
46

brad0309,

Edinburgh 02/09/2009 16:04:53
Kaz

I think you need to make sure that the EEN can spell. O f inski Fogarty? Like it
47

the plum,

02/09/2009 16:09:50
42 & 44 karen of

well put karen...

...and i think it is a lovely picture of you.

48

the plum,

02/09/2009 16:11:34
4pawsnocause

you loose. you have lost.
49

MollyforLucy,

Shandon 02/09/2009 16:17:11
Lucy,yes you read it right Dood, Lucy the staffie is the sweetest wee dog ever, this is because she receives loads of love and care from her owners. I believe whether you live in a mansion or beg on the streets that the loving care that you give a dog ultimately contributes to its behaviour.
#38 I'm sure Mrs Osinski-Fogarty or 'the een' as you so wittily refer to her, would be most interested to know who you are, oh the suspense!
#39 Big Smoke, you should be doing stand-up mate, never heard that one before!Hoho!
50

brad0309,

Edinburgh 02/09/2009 16:27:24
Miss B I assume ('mollyforlucy'), by 'een' I suspect they are referring to the 'Edinburg Evening News', but well said anyway. Kaz, think u av an idmirer in 'the plum', keep J on his toes eh!
51

MollyforLucy,

02/09/2009 16:29:45
#38 Woops! Yes, easy mistake 'the een' infact being Evening News and not Mrs Osinski-Fogarty, i'm sure you would have thrown down yir broomstick and lunged at me for that one eh?!
52

Karen OF,

02/09/2009 17:47:47
I wholeheartedly agree with dog licensing - perhaps then so called dangerous breeds can redeem their reputation with responsible owners. Staffordshire bull terriers have the nickname of nanny dogs due to their wonderful nature with children, not many people appreciate the fact that Staffies are the best breed with children, as expressed by the kennel club. People prefer to focus on the negativity arising from yob culture in the uk. Staffies are abused, trained for aggression and used for breeding to generate cash, as a result of overbreeding and arising behaviour problems these dogs are being dumped in record numbers. Go to any rescue centre and you will see at least 1 staffie in the first 10 dogs. The fault does not lie with the dogs but a lack of resonsible dog ownership (which has no connection to the amount of money one earns foo!).
53

Fido Dogstoevsky,

02/09/2009 18:24:35
What sort of animal has four legs and an arm?

A Rottweiler!
54

Choose a nameDr_Joseph_Phd,

Tynescos 02/09/2009 19:04:17
The owner of this "kind-natured" devil dog should keep her potential killer muzzled and on a leash.

One can only imagine the terror anyone out with a toddler at The Braids feels when spotting a staffie, bred for bull baiting, bounding toward their wee one... teeth bared.
55

Karen OF,

02/09/2009 19:24:25
# 54

Did you miss my point entirely? My "devil dog" was attacked, not the other way around. I support muzzling of aggressive dogs, I have no reason to muzzle mine. You have a very small minded attitude - perhaps you ought to read up a little on Staffordshire bull terriers and their ability to be fantastic family pets before slating a breed you clearly know little about. My two neices who are 3 and 7 years old play with my dog DAILY (and yes, under supervision) with no problems. I would not trust many other dogs with my neices.
56

Karen OF,

02/09/2009 19:31:23
PS Any dog is a potential killer, regardless of breed, especially where children are concerned - without appropriate training and education - for the dog and the child
57

Mr Crawfield,

Scotland 02/09/2009 20:35:41
With all due respect Karen OF. I firmly believe your dog on a number of occasions has been very agressive towards my dog while walking around the Braids. I do agree to some extent with 4pawsnocause's claims. I could be wrong, but the dog that has attacked mines looks very similar to your staffie. However- I am not pointing fingers darling but im just throwing it out there.
58

Karen OF,

02/09/2009 20:53:19
Would you possibly describe your dog? And when you believe this happened? Lucy can be boisterous, as terriers are - but she's not aggressive. Many people misunderstand dog behaviour, they have a complex social hierarchy, if this is the case that you felt that my dog was behaving aggressively - why didn't you say something to me? I take it you don't recognise me in the picture?!
59

The real dracula,

02/09/2009 20:56:17
BTW it isnt the law that dogs are kept on a lead in a public place ,,,,,the law is that dogs must be kept under control in a pblic area ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,that doesnt mean they have to be on a lead.

I have two very well behaved collies who dont need a lead they are controlled by my voice and have never let me down yet in 11 years.

Im not putting them on a lead just cos some folk think I should.
60

stanton4,

02/09/2009 22:59:12
I like dogs and am very comfortable around them, but not everyone is....some people are even scared of dogs bounding around them drac, your comments are alittle arrogant as well as downright unreasonable when other walkers are around
61

Twatter,

On The Braids 02/09/2009 23:19:39
A bye law regarding Edinburgh Public parks states that dogs must be kept on a lead at all times.
The Braids is a public park first, a golf course second - according to Edinburgh Leisure.
I admit I walk my dog on the Braids and what annoys me most is the wee woman with the "pack of alsatians" that she allows to sh*te all over the place
Despite numerous run ins with other dog walkers she never cleans up after the dogs
How would she feel if we dumped a pile of sh*te at the Breadwinners door ?
62

korndog,

reality 03/09/2009 01:10:48
My favourite, favourite thing is when the neds buy their staffies those studded leather harnesses, so they look like wee gay bondage dogs. hahahaha
63

Big Smoke,

03/09/2009 10:30:22
Karen you might just see my mug on a picture in the paper in a few weeks under the heading 'Man uses cattle prod on all dogs off a lead on braids hill'
64

Karen OF,

03/09/2009 10:56:10
How I envy your imaginative wit, you're a funny bloke - no, really
65

Big Smoke,

03/09/2009 11:02:23
thanks
66

Malissa,

Michigan 03/09/2009 21:38:49
You people have got to be kidding me. It is evident that the collie attacked the Staffie in a vicious attack but still your blaming the staffie? What morons. I've been attacked by a collie and trust me the dog was not by any means threatened. I've had staffies, I've had American Pitbull Terriers and you idiots that get your panties in a bunch because of the media are ridiculous. Half the time dog attacks are said to have been from a pitbull breed but instead come from a dog like a lab mix or other dog that looks bulldogish, any dog with a square head for that matter.

I'm quite certain that half of you couldn't even point out a pitbull among many other dogs.

And since the article does not say for sure. Who's to say they weren't in an offleash park?!

If you ask me who's to blame I would say it would be the collies owner.


 

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