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Published Date: 06 November 2009
A PENSIONER who ended up in court after confronting two youths outside his home with a rifle insisted today he had done nothing wrong.
RAF veteran Ian Knight, who has previously been burgled, said he would rather face potential intruders on the street than let them into his home of 75 years.

Mr Knight, who is blind in his left eye, said: "I heard a noise outside one night. I'm 75 and blind in one eye and I feel fairly vulnerable.

"My house has been broken into before and in 1981 two intruders tied up my next-door neighbours and robbed them off a few thousand pounds. They ripped out their phone and left them tied up.

"You hear reports on the news of pensioners being attacked by burglars and some of them killed. I would rather confront an intruder outside my house than inside."

He added: "I had a reproduction Winchester rifle which was not capable of firing. I went outside with it and I didn't see anyone, but the two children saw me and they were obviously frightened.

"I did it just to scare them off – it couldn't be fired."

Two boys aged 12 and 14 had been causing the noise outside Mr Knight's bungalow in Blackhall at around 9pm. A parent contacted the police after Mr Knight emerged with the rifle.

The case was heard at Edinburgh Sheriff Court on Tuesday. Mr Knight admitted having a firearm in his possession on 10 March this year at his home at Telford Road.

Mr Knight was originally an armourer in the RAF and was fully trained in the practice of firing weapons.

He achieved his marksman badge for rifle shooting while performing his national service between 1952 and 1954, and kept a number of rifles at his home but did not require to have a licence for the weapons.

Defence agent Murray Robertson said Mr Knight had become "slightly paranoid about noises outside" after he and his neighbours were robbed.

He said: "These children have made his life a misery with balls and stones coming over his fence."

Mr Knight bought the airsoft rifles for indoor target shooting in October 2003, but they were never used as he lost the sight in his left eye two months later after suffering a small stroke.

He said: "I had intruders trying to climb over the fence in my back garden and I challenged them and they ran off.

"The garage was broken into around five years ago and my house was burgled.

"When the burglars broke into the house they broke the glass in the front door and one of them must have cut themselves very badly getting in, and wiped the blood all over the sheets on my bed."

He added: "Any time I hear these reports on the news about pensioners being attacked in their own homes, this image comes back to me of my bed covered in blood.

"They took quite a few things of sentimental value, including a classical-style guitar."

Mr Knight, who never married and has no children, said: "As far as I'm concerned I haven't done anything wrong."

Sheriff Elizabeth Jarvie QC deferred sentence on Mr Knight until next month for background reports. His guns have been forfeited in the meantime.

She told the court she was not intending to send him to jail, adding: "I want to know the extent of the harassment he has been getting."

Mr Knight plans to sell his home and move into sheltered housing accommodation.

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  • Last Updated: 06 November 2009 10:38 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

CityStroller,

Edinburgh 06/11/2009 12:11:43
And I hope the judge also enquires of the parents as to why children of 12 and 14 were on the street at 9pm and causing a nuisance. Why is it that we bring our threats of jail and consequences down on the victim?
2

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 06/11/2009 12:12:05
Well done Ian Knight,you did nothing wrong,you knew nobody could be harmed but they did not,good on you.
3

hibbywul,

06/11/2009 12:20:59
Mr Knight, who never married and has no children, said: "As far as I'm concerned I haven't done anything wrong."

Correct, you done nothing wrong. Are we not allowed to protect our property and selves these days?
4

Trams shams,

06/11/2009 12:21:09
The law is an ass if they don't do anything but sing this guys praises!
5

It's me!,

06/11/2009 12:27:03
Pity the parents are not so quick to contact the police to report the youngsters for making Mr Knight's life miserable.
6

Unimpressed one,

06/11/2009 12:27:48
Lucky for him he didn't have a visit from an armed response team. Another victim of pc UK.
7

It's Leith for me!,

06/11/2009 12:28:52
perhaps a statment from the Police detailing what action was taken against the two neds and their irressponsible parents, should be included in any update on this story?
8

Spock,

06/11/2009 12:28:55
A "firearm" is not a firearm if it is deactivated. It is a metal object. An airsoft rifle is not a firearm either. It would be great if the media could get those definitions correct when reporting.

As for Mr Knight, no he should not be jailed for frightening off kids. It is about time the people of this country claimed back their right to a quiet life instead of all this politically correct rubbish we have had dumped on us by Europe.

Am I the only person to have noticed that we lost WWIII this week? Germany and France took us over by diplomacy rather than war, and this time won!

Sad state of affairs and a former RAF veteran's situation is the direct result of that. Ironic!

9

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06/11/2009 12:33:29
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10

hibbywul,

06/11/2009 12:35:58
I'm with number 9.
11

GJS,

Leeds 06/11/2009 12:41:37
#1 The parents will make the defence that the children couldn't possibly be expected to behave because they are "only" 12 and 14.

Everyone in Scotland is always "only"; they are never old enough to be told not to do something.

This "only" attitude explains the Scots' lack of self-confidence too.
12

GJS,

Leeds 06/11/2009 12:43:22
Oh and the judge will fall for this hook line and sinker as always.
13

Incandescent,

06/11/2009 12:45:41
Bravo #1

Perhaps the parents would like to comment on here about their little darlings' behaviour?
14

Foo,

06/11/2009 12:48:29
So a man with a stick with metal strapped to it investigates kids causing trouble outside his house and he ends up in court?

What sort of society have we become?
15

Eugene Fraxby,

06/11/2009 13:08:43
There is no such thing as "society". Mrs Thatcher said so.

There is also no such thing as a flying elk.
16

NittonLover,

Newtongrange 06/11/2009 13:26:27
#8 - Thought the French were on our side in WWII?
17

RabIT,

edinburgh 06/11/2009 13:38:47
This type of thing is my main reason for wanting to see a change in Government, the law is a complete and utter ass
18

Mallory,

Edinburgh 06/11/2009 13:41:33
Justice is well served here. Mr Knight has to sell his home and move into sheltered accomodation.

Presumably he will have had to provide DNA and has forfeited his reproduction rifles.

Nothing will happen to the revolting kids or the incompetant parent(s) who allowed them to roam unchecked.

How much effort did the polis put into chasing the items stolen from his property and was DNA collected from the scene of the earlier robbery.



19

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

06/11/2009 13:55:01
They're just vermin. Adults should be free to do pest control with real guns. Think of it as applied social work.
20

sceptic,

livingston 06/11/2009 13:59:15
I suppose we shall be told Mr Knight has himself to blame, but for the sacrifice of him and many of his generation these rubbish kids of rubbish parents would probably never have been born.
21

Snails dont like curry and chips,

Edinburgh 06/11/2009 14:00:13
I agree with everything said so far. This society is now totally committed to looking after the welfare of the perpetrators of crime and disturbance. As for the victims they can go and get stuffed. It is time for this twisted view to be changed
22

sceptic,

livingston 06/11/2009 14:03:50
Perhaps Mr Knight should have phoned the police to say there were kids in the street carrying guns.
23

Cod,

06/11/2009 14:18:30
Guns don't kill people. Rappers do.
24

GJS,

06/11/2009 14:31:49
#22 The police wouldn't do anything, they're always too busy having a nice chippy.
25

Rambo The Jambo,

Edinburgh 06/11/2009 14:59:09


..............or helping the Chief Constable's wife to get her handbag back.
26

Eugene Fraxby,

06/11/2009 15:07:22
I've read this story several times now and it isn't clear just what the kids - sorry, "scum" - did to provoke an elderly man to wave a fake gun at them.

27

NittonLover,

Newtongrange 06/11/2009 15:14:35
Everyone needs some perspective here, these children were not trying to break into his house but were making "noise" in the street. Mr Knight was lucky the police didn't over-react and send in the armed response unit.
28

McTee,

Edinburgh 06/11/2009 15:52:25
"Mr Knight plans to sell his home and move into sheltered housing accommodation."

Cool, I'm looking to buy a house in the Blackhall area, how much is he looking for?
29

Chris,

Edinburgh 06/11/2009 16:01:05
#8 Spock:
I suspect that "Mr Knight admitted having a firearm in his possession..." means that is what the charge stated, rather than poor reporting by the EEN (for once). Perhaps his Defence Agent should have realised this and objected to the charge. I agree that it shouldn't be classed as a firearm, however the law was changed in 2005:
http://www.iansa.org/action/woa2005/uk-law.htm (which kind of stuffs him.)

#27 Nittonlover:
"These children have made his life a misery with balls and stones coming over his fence." Thus, when he heard the noise he would not have been aware as to whether they were in his garden or not. So he went to investigate and frighten them off. Seems sensible. You are correct in that he was lucky the armed response unit didn't charge in.
30

Chris,

Edinburgh 06/11/2009 16:02:42
#28 McTee:
Not a lot, especially as the burglars and noisy children are free.
31

CityStroller,

Edinburgh 06/11/2009 16:05:37
#26, #27. I suspect you have never been burgled. It affects people deeply. Personaly, I do step out with a heavy torch if I hear anything. The "kids" were frightening an old man, that's what they were doing. And if they didn't know that being out in the dark making a noise outside peoples houses is anti-social, they do now.
32

Foo,

06/11/2009 17:05:31
#27 NittonLover

Idiot.
33

NittonLover,

Newtongrange 06/11/2009 17:17:54
#31 - Oh yes I have, twice.

#32 - Foo, the moronic poster is back. Going to make more lies up about me today?

There is not enough evidence in this story to saying whether these were the same kids or not, you cannot make the auumption.
34

The real dracula,

06/11/2009 17:45:24
C'mon parents why dont you explain your little darlings (scumbags) actions , you have gone very quiet after gobbing off for the media !
35

Jimmy Baker,

06/11/2009 19:05:43
34- where is the parent's "gobbing off for the media" you refer to please. I can't see it in the article.

An old deranged paranoid geezer takes a "replica" shooter out into the street because he was burgled 5 years ago and sometimes a ball comes into his garden.

An old nutter, maybe had a flashback to the war, defending Britain against Hitler and his plans for a European Order.

Hold on though, has the Treaty of Lisbon now been ratified by all member states?

36

Aman,

Inverleith 06/11/2009 20:19:09
If I carve a piece of wood to a handgun shape, is that an imitation firearm when to any right minded person ? Its really a fiece of firewood
37

Jimmy Jam Tart 1,

06/11/2009 22:53:26
90% of comments are in favour of the old chap here. Forward on to the judge please so she can see how society thinks this case should be dealt with.
38

Julian.,

edinburgh 06/11/2009 23:04:51
#20 Sceptic

And what sacrifice did Mr Knight exactly make?
39

Julian.,

edinburgh 06/11/2009 23:10:41
#34 The Real Dracula,

If making a noise in the street when aged 14 at 9pm made you a scumbag then 99% of us, probably including you, are scumbags. The other 1% would probably be classified as strange/retards.
40

Cassandra,

06/11/2009 23:38:38
#39 Julian - you got a friend called Sandy?

Let's reverse the blame - man who has had his house burgled worries about kids making a noise outside. 99% of elderly folks in that position worry there might be more scumbags about. The other 1% probabaly have dementia.
41

Julian.,

edinburgh 07/11/2009 00:07:10
Cassandra,

I'm not taking sides here. As far as I'm concerned there are a lot of badly behaved kids. Although I'm not convinced it's any worse now that when I was that age (if only).

In this particular case the jury's out. But what p!sses me off is people coming on here calling folk scumbags with the flimsiest of evidence. And those who make comments like that quickly forget what it was like to be that age. I mean can anyone actually stand up and say they never made a noise in the street at 9pm when they were 14. Or that they never kicked a football into someone's garden. I certainly can't.
42

My other car's a Bell 206,

07/11/2009 00:33:22
#41. WHAT!!!. You made noises in the street after 9PM and admit kicking a lethal inflated plastic sphere into a residential area... You should be dragged out of bed at dawn and shot with bubble gun you young roughian... That will teach you respect...lol.

Laugh... The tears are still running down my legs.
43

spunkycaveman,

Earth 07/11/2009 10:15:33
Feel sorry for the old fella, but he lives in blackhall which is predominantly a family area so he is going to come into contact with kids. If he does'nt like that maybe he should move. Nothing in this story to suggest the children involved were doing anything other than standing on a public footpath outside his house making noise. A 12 year old and a 14 year old not a gang of neds. If everyone adopted the same stance any kid in the street after 9pm making any kind of noise is fair game to be threatened by a gun. I'm sure the law states that if the person being threatend by the "gun" has the firm believe that it was an actual firearm and it was presented as a firearm, and that it looks like a firearm then it is a firearm offence, does'nt matter wither it's a brush shaft or or a 12 bore.

 

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