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City taking us for a ride with their overpriced funfair fees



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Published Date: 27 March 2008
IN times of financial belt-tightening, Edinburgh's city leaders have never been known for their sense of fun.
But the latest revenue-raising idea to come from the City Chambers sparked warnings today of the death of traditional fairgrounds and carnivals.

Funfair operators say they are already being forced out of the city due to the highest licensing fees in Scotland. Now council officials have recommended further increasing the cost of a new or temporary public entertainment licence from this June.

The Showmen's Guild of Great Britain today said operators would no longer find it financially viable to visit the Capital and would be forced to stay away.

While large funfairs, such as the popular summer shows on the Meadows, will still come to Edinburgh, there are fears that small operations – usually found at shopping centres and community galas – will vanish. For its part, the council today said it had yet to approve the new costs, and insisted it would listen to operators' concerns.

But Alex Colquhoun, vice chairman of the Scottish section of the Guild, said: "The small funfairs can't afford to go to Edinburgh. The price of everything is already going up – such as fuel and rental costs – so our members are telling us they can't afford to put funfairs on.

"Edinburgh is the highest charging council, and it can cost nearly £2000 for a licence, but just £100 in many other areas. If you don't get a licence, there is no refund or right to appeal."

Mr Colquhoun said licence costs were also high in Glasgow. However, he said the council there had set up a working group to discuss the issue.

Fees are proposed to rise in Edinburgh from £1066 to £1600 for a small fairground holding between 201 and 1000 people.

In contrast, a temporary six-week licence costs just £25 in East Lothian, £79 in West Lothian or around £90 in Midlothian.

An Easter Carnival is currently operating at the Cameron Toll Shopping Centre in south Edinburgh, run by Andrew Masterton from Funtime Carnivals.

He said today: "I'm from Fife and I can put on a fair in North Queensferry and pay £18 for a public entertainment licence. But for the same fair across the Forth Road Bridge in South Queensferry, it costs hundreds of pounds. There is no uniformity."

Mr Masterton said he used to put on smaller shows at the Jack Kane Centre in Niddrie, and Westside Plaza in Wester Hailes, but had now been "priced out of the market".

The council's fees for a new or temporary licence currently range from £800 for the smallest of operations to a maximum of £5600 for venues holding more than 10,000 people.

The new charges proposed by officials still start at £800, but would rise to as much as £40,000 for venues hosting over 80,000 people – such as high-profile gigs at Murrayfield.

A council spokesman said: "The committee hasn't actually reached a conclusion on this yet as there is a further report to follow."


The full article contains 515 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 27 March 2008 11:52 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

allknowing,

27/03/2008 12:00:31
Good, just a hang out for jakeys and neds anyway!
2

Amenemhat,

27/03/2008 12:02:35
Excellent news
3

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27/03/2008 12:03:58
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4

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 27/03/2008 12:14:42
Personally, I'd rather go for a fast ride on my motorbike than go on a fun-fair ride.

However, I can see that it might appeal to others and the rediculous licence fee is just another example of this council's incompetance. And we all thought it would be different under the SNP... The "freedom for Scotland" party... Huh!
5

The Barred O' Leith,

27/03/2008 12:29:45
Roll up roll up
come and see the fair
Feel the rush of your blood
And the wind through your hair
Take along your granny
And your neighbour up the stair
Then have a right good chuckle
As they're hoisted through the air
And when you grow old
And think of days ago
Send along your grandkids
Send them to the shows.

6

Pugilistic pragmatist,

Portobello 27/03/2008 12:35:44
20 shows at £50 each per show owner = 1Grand = price of 6 week licence = just over a pound a day to run yer show.
Average ride price £1.50
Aw diddums
7

David Harrington,

Edinburgh 27/03/2008 12:37:22
This is an extortionate charge - the fun fair at Wester Hailes was quite good for its size - it is a huge shame that the small fairs are likely to be lost
8

David Harrington,

Edinburgh 27/03/2008 12:38:57
#6 The only funfair that lasts for 6 weeks is Burntisland - please base your costs on accurate information
9

Pugilistic pragmatist,

portobello 27/03/2008 12:44:54
#8 O.k. funfair for 1 week = approx £10 a day per showman,= 7 people paying £1.50 for a 2 minute birl on a show.
As I said Aw Diddums
10

I love to eat Sellotape,

27/03/2008 13:03:43
stem ginger
11

Angus R,

27/03/2008 13:19:43
This Pikey tax is just no fair.
12

Brian Ferrari,

27/03/2008 13:55:39
Sounds fair enough to me.

Next thing they won't be able to afford their Road Tax.
13

filthy,

Edinburgh 27/03/2008 14:17:37
funfairs take us for a ride with their overpriced funfair fees........
14

filthy,

Edinburgh 27/03/2008 14:20:00
" SCREAM IF YOU WANT TO GO FASTER"

ERR, NO THANKS- THE RIDE MIGHT FALL APART....
15

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

27/03/2008 14:21:41
All my change has fallen out my pockets and a woman with a beard has pockled it.
16

Rambo_the_Jambo,

Edinburgh 27/03/2008 15:42:32
Their ride prices are a rip off anyway. Took my three year old grandson to the Meadows fair and spent £12 within 10 minutes.

I remember a few years ago they tried to charge 50p to 'enter' their fair which was situated on public land (Meadows) which was illegal.
17

Rambo_the_Jambo,

Edinburgh 27/03/2008 15:43:54
.......the charge was illegal that is, not the fair on the Meadows!
18

filthy,

Edinburgh 27/03/2008 15:43:55
Rules for funfairs to get into Edinburgh.

1)all vehicles must have valid road tax
2)all vehicles must have genuine mot certificate
3) tax and national insurance must be paid on all money earned....

problem solved
19

calum,

27/03/2008 17:06:21
#8 - I think you'll find the winter funfair (also known as Irvine and Koran's rip-off extravaganza)in Princes Street Gardens East lasts as long as that.
20

Stevie Mac,

Edinburgh 27/03/2008 17:11:14
This topic is going round in circles, people are taking a pot shot, why are the council making these punters go through hoops?
21

Stevie Mac,

Edinburgh 27/03/2008 17:18:01
Hang on a minute tho. Edinburgh needs a new and more efficient transport system and its prepared to invest MMMilions to get one. So why don't we combine the two and travel around via funfair rides? How attractive would that be for tourists? They could Waltz from Waverley to the West End. We could arrive wide awake for work having just experienced a 25 minute ghost ride along Princes Street. Tunnels of Love could be constructed on George Street with extra shelters outside Ma Dogs and Shanghai. Shooting Galleries in Granton- the possibilities are endless.
22

UmeåJambo,

Sweden 27/03/2008 17:29:26
Mumping Gypos are the same the world over!
23

Anonym,

eating candy floss 27/03/2008 18:51:37
Why don't they make the rides even more expensive to cover the costs? The food is always grossly under-priced at these fun fairs. Also, they could make some extra money by running a few harmless scams, like have a tent full of fruit machines which only pay out jackpots in tokens, or have a hoopla stall where the hoops only just fit over the base with the prize on it.

I mean, it's amazing they make any profit at all, what with the council ripping them off.
24

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27/03/2008 20:37:14
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Jingsitsme,

EDINBURGH 27/03/2008 21:02:26
sure they should pay more as they camp their too. Most of these travelling folk don't pay council tax anywhere so yeh charge them. They make good use of all our facilities.

They don't lose or they wouldn't come back year after year. Love to know if they pay all their taxes etc!!



So if they don't want to come - tough - I'm sure someone will take their place.
26

GR,

Oldtoon 27/03/2008 22:56:21
This same group run the Gyle funfair at the Mid term / Valentines day period. You don't hear them complaining about that, as they make a killing, even with extra security and fencing.
They can't have their cake and eat it. If you want a pitch in Scotland's Capital, you pay the fee and shut up. If you want to make peanuts then go to North Queensferry or the like and trade in your large Mercs for Ford Escorts.
27

edinburgh 123,

edinburgh 29/03/2008 13:22:40
the price u pay to enter isnt relay to enter the fair it pays for securtiy porta loos and fencing etc

 

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