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Published Date: 03 February 2009
THE massive regeneration of the former Fountain Brewery has been dealt a major blow after a key developer went bust.
Buredi Fountainbridge – the council-backed company hoping to build flats and offices on the old Tartan Club site – has gone into administration after RBS withdrew its backing.

The land will now be offered for sale in an effort to recoup some of the bank's losses. Property experts, however, have questioned whether anyone will buy the land in the current economic climate.

Buredi Fountainbridge is a subsidiary of Buredi Limited, a joint venture between council-owned developer EDI and housebuilders the Burrell Company.

The company had planned to build 170 flats and an office complex as part of an £80 million development of the former Fountain Brewery social club next to Cargo and Edinburgh Quay.

No public money has been lost in the project, with the only funding to date, including the purchase of the land from Scottish & Newcastle, design and planning costs, being provided by RBS.

The move comes as developers of the adjacent Springside site have put the second phase of their project on hold until the economy improves.

There are also growing doubts over whether the new Lloyds Banking Group will continue to develop HBOS's plans for a major office hub in the area.

Despite the collapse of Buredi Fountainbridge, the parent company Buredi Limited, whose sites include the Madelvic site on Edinburgh Waterfront, continues to trade as normal.

A spokeswoman for Buredi Fountainbridge said: "The directors bitterly regret that after years of working to realise this strategically important development, the current difficulties in the financial markets and the wider economy have resulted in the Royal Bank of Scotland withdrawing their support for the company and therefore for the project."

A spokesman for RBS said: "Lending decisions are made on a case-by-case basis, rather than on the basis of a rigid sector-wide view. We remain willing to support proposals from the property sector if we consider that the deal makes good commercial sense."

A spokeswoman for the administrators KPMG added: "They (the administrators] will begin marketing the property for sale in the near future."

Despite the likelihood that the value of the land will have fallen by up to 50 per cent in the last year, property experts have doubts about whether a buyer will be found.

Stewart Taylor, director of business space at property firm CB Richard Ellis, said: "What has really killed this scheme has been the residential side. Demand has dropped and values have dropped, so it makes it a big risk."

The Lloyds Banking Group said it was not yet in a position to make a final decision on the future of its site.

A group spokesman said: "We have only just begun assessing our options for the site. It will be some time before any decisions are made."

Developers at Springside confirmed that the office element of its project remained on hold, although they said work was progressing on the housing element.


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  • Last Updated: 03 February 2009 11:15 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Mortgage and property news
 
1

P I Staker,

03/02/2009 12:08:14
Another first class piece of wok from the cooncil. Why don't they just send someone down to Ladbrokes twice a week, less chance of losing public money
2

allknowing,

03/02/2009 12:08:18
Who would want to buy a flat there anyway?? or were these for poor people, sorry, I mean social housing or whatever the PC term is these days.

Place is a dump, better turn it into a carpark, so people coming off the west approach road have somewhere to park. Wait a minute, didnt the conservatives have that idea years ago!!!!!
3

fruitmachine,

Edinburgh 03/02/2009 12:11:27
At the right price, a buyer will always be found for anything. If it has fallen by 50% and doesn't sell, then that's not the right price and it should have fallen by more.
4

Sister Morag,

Lasswade 03/02/2009 12:12:07
#1 Did you bother to read the article?

"No public money has been lost in the project, with the only funding to date, including the purchase of the land from Scottish & Newcastle, design and planning costs, being provided by RBS."
5

Thomas the Tank,

Edinburgh 03/02/2009 12:27:04
H'mmmm - "Buredi Fountainbridge – the council-backed company" has gone into administration. "Buredi Fountainbridge, a subsidiary of Buredi Limited, a joint venture between council-owned developer, EDI . . " - Was EDI not the Council arm's length company that Roy Jobson, disgraced director of 'Children and Families' mysteriously found himself with a senior post in? Just like TIE, EDI is part of a murky, multi-million pound 'below the public radar' network of ex-cooncil timeservers that should be subjected to a full probe by Audit Scotland, if not the Police. Or maybe some good, old fashioned investigative journalism ??
6

Skip McClendon,

03/02/2009 12:34:45
Just run a "world-class" tram to it...I'm sure that will sort everything out, just like it has done for the waterfront development...
7

Suntoucher,

03/02/2009 12:42:35
Yes - read the article #1!

A real shame, but no surprises that this site and the adjacent ones are in trouble over the funding crisis.

There's nothing worse than a huge gap site but fingers crossed, in a few years time, perhaps some 'enlightened' thinking, fresh cash and a faster moving planning system will mean a better scheme? or did I just see a pig fly!
8

Randan,

03/02/2009 12:42:39
All the Council's dominoes falling one by one.
Next: Caltongate.
Can't be far away.
9

reincarnated,

Edinburgh 03/02/2009 12:45:58
5

Is your psuedonym cockney rhyming slang?
10

Big bob 79,

03/02/2009 12:46:04
I feel a shame for all the migrant builders that will have to look for a new place to work now this council project has gone belly up.
11

Tentwo,

03/02/2009 12:47:27
No more offices. No more executive flats. Start building affordable housing.
12

Polwarth Soldier,

03/02/2009 12:54:55
allknowing

A great, affluent part of town - as for being a dump, youv been thinking of your woman while writing....
13

TonyBLiar,

Jerusalem 03/02/2009 12:57:20
Think EDI will have to fast track some extra planning consents to boost the value of their land bank to compensate.

Nothing new then.
14

P I Staker,

03/02/2009 13:02:44
#4 yes indeed I did read it (and #6, please, don't just echo someone else's comments so that you can post something, however tenuous it may be).
The way I read it is "The land will now be offered for sale in an effort to recoup some of the bank's losses".
Now, as I understand it, although I was out of the country at the time, the government sunk a LOT of money (public money) in to the RBS to the extent of now having a 70% stake in RBS. If the bank have to try and 'recoup losses' it stands to reason that public money is involved.
Unless of course, you know otherwise.
15

Mallory,

Edinburgh 03/02/2009 13:07:24
Probably be snapped up by the Duke of Westminster
16

Crivvens,

embra 03/02/2009 13:11:32
An excellent opportunity for a new location for boroughmuir school and with a 50% drop in land value makes great sense for a new school very close to the existing one; maybe to good and simple an idea for embra council
17

Rambo The Jambo,

Sunny Tollcross 03/02/2009 13:14:07

Well, considering how it took 30 years to rebuild Reigo Street, and practically the same 30 years to build on the old SMT triangle (older Fountainbridge residents will know this) don't be surprised if these sites lie vacant for years.

FFS Fountainbridge would't look out of place in the Gorbals now.

The Council should never have demolished the tenements along Fountainbridge. They should have ben modernised instead. Demolition and sale of the land was the easiest and cheapest option.

18

ccc,

03/02/2009 13:16:35
Property prices in Edinburgh will not drop

There is a shortage of housing in Edinburgh

There is no land left to build on in Edinburgh

Blah Blah….

-------------------------------------------------------

Just a few of the continuing lies that the vested interests in the property World have been spouting for years now. The only reason was to push prices higher and higher and fill their pockets.

I do hope that the general public have finally woken up and realised this was all a big con ?

And yet these same vested interests are given space in papers such as this to tell people what do do with their money ? It truly beggars belief.
19

John Knox furr First Meenister,

High St, Embra 03/02/2009 13:27:14
"Property experts, however, have questioned whether anyone will buy the land in the current economic climate."
I'd buy it at the right price.
20

Walter Wallcarpet,

edinburgh 03/02/2009 13:38:09
It would make a great site for a brewery...
21

allknowing,

03/02/2009 13:46:38
"A great, affluent part of town "

I son, away back to your rented flat, with your HP white goods and credit card'd plamsa tv!!!

Honestly, some people need to cut the wool covering their eyes.
22

Graham P,

Edinburgh 03/02/2009 13:48:32
#14 P I Staker:

So how is it the council's fault that the RBS (then an independent, publicly traded company) decided to invest in this project?
23

Duncan in Edinburgh,

03/02/2009 14:13:26
#14 A tip - when you've been proven wrong, don't flail about in a desperate attempt to get off the hook - just accept it graciously and move on.

Your original comment stated that the council had lost public money. There is simply no way of making that stick, and your attempt to use the part-nationalisation of RBS to do it is just silly.
24

NorT,

Edinburgh 03/02/2009 14:21:12
#16 - An excellent idea but our daft Council will not do anything about it.
25

Liz,

Edinburgh 03/02/2009 14:51:53
I think they should change the plans and transform the entire area into some kind of shrine to Sir Sean :)


26

tomias,

Edinburgh 03/02/2009 15:08:21
Bound to go belly up- not on a tram route
27

Grumpy,

03/02/2009 15:22:27
What about the HBOS plan to build across the road from the site featured? They reckoned it would cost £14m and replace all the HBOS buildings in Edinburgh. Do we assume that Lloyds TSB have canned this too?
28

druidh,

edinburgh 03/02/2009 16:23:53
#16, #24 - You're right. This would be an ideal opportunity to relocate Boroughmuir School, freeing up the existing land in due course.
29

calum,

03/02/2009 17:27:31
Something about this seems iffy. I looked up Buredi Fountainbridge on the web and it defers to the Buredi site, not a separate site of its own. No references to director of either company - are they the same, does anyone know?
Its may be that this is the beginning of a larger problem with Buredi and the first one to go is the separate "company" at Fountainbridge and that others, if there are, or the Waterfront may be in trouble too.
Does this smack of a dodgy builder who has several companies with similar names and continues to trade under these names while one goes bust, later to re-emerge with the same "directors" etc..
Just a speculative shot.
Anyone prepared to name the directors and non-executive directors of either company - the EDI bit is owned by the council after all.
30

Duncan in Edinburgh,

03/02/2009 19:57:55
#29 As it happens I know some of these folk. It's not hard to find the names of company directors, since they are a matter of public record. I can tell you that they include some very decent, hard-working and honest people, many of whom give generously of their time and money to architectural preservation and conservation, and most of whom are tireless in their efforts to do good by the city.

Most, if not all, developments of this nature are done by setting up a company specifically for that purpose. It is neither underhand nor "dodgy" - it is open, understood and well policed.

Contrary to what you might expect, the relationship with the council is not a cosy one, and they suffer the same frustrations as everyone else in their dealings with them.

Jobs and livelihoods have been lost here, and they will have been sorely fought for; the entire development sector is in freefall at the moment, and there may indeed be other collapses, but this is not a "dodgy builder" reinventing himself with different company names - it is decent people doing a decent job.
31

eDUCATIon,

03/02/2009 20:33:55
Duncan in The Royal Ed

You seem to know everything about everything, can I put you on my "Phone A Friend" list if i make it on to Millionaire?
32

jdships,

Edinburgh 03/02/2009 20:38:28
TIE next ?
Only kidding , honest !!
33

Duncan in Edinburgh,

03/02/2009 21:08:13
#31 Haha. No.
34

calum,

03/02/2009 22:20:22
#30 Thanks for that comprehensive reply which I accept at face value, not being obviously as close to the issue as you. I still think that some of these "arms length" council companies are at odds with the public interest at times and I thought the points made at #5 were interesting. I trust your comment about about honest and hardworking people but Roy Jobson? I wouldn't trust him with public money and responsibility, given his past record in the Council.
35

A Bob Cratchitt Type,

03/02/2009 22:33:41
#4 Sister Morag

70% of RBS is owned by the government.
36

A Bob Cratchitt Type,

03/02/2009 22:44:21
#23 Dunco A tip - Try and think before you post. Take time to piece things together. Specially when you criticise others.
37

eDUCATIon,

03/02/2009 23:18:32
OK Duncan.....I'll just have to ask Gorgie Tony then instead!
38

Julian.,

edinburgh 03/02/2009 23:23:24
CCC,

And yet these same vested interests are given space in papers such as this to tell people what do do with their money.

Yes, it's a disgrace. All these people waiting for prices to drop so they can grab a bargain are allowed to post comments here talking down the housing market which could in itself cause prices to fall.
39

COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 04/02/2009 01:46:21
BUILD.A.RUBBER.MILL/.OR.SELL.IT.TO.THE.GOLD.BROS.
40

Local Whiner,

Edinburgh 04/02/2009 05:18:54
The last thing Edinburgh needs is more office space. Build some new, affordable, housing for the workers to live in instead.
41

Duncan in Edinburgh,

04/02/2009 08:11:43
#34 The people I know are from the "Bur" rather than the "edi" part of the business, so you may be right.

#36 Please explain - I don't see anything wrong with what I posted at #23. You might want to read the original #1 in which the *council* was accused of losing public money.
42

Liz,

Edinburgh 04/02/2009 10:21:36
#38
We are no longer in a situation where either talking the market up or down is really of any importance.

It is a simple fact that houseprices have lost touch with earnings. Recently there has been an abundance of cheap credit around to fill in the gap - this is not longer around and therefore prices will fall - fact.
For the vast majority of people in this country falling house prices are either a good thing (if you are wanting to 'move up the ladder especially) or make very little 'real' difference but we are constantly told in the media all the time that price "rises = good" and "falls = bad".

Houses should be for living in, not investment vehicles, the social concequences of chaining people to ever increasing amounts of debt to fund purchasing even the most modest home have yet to be fully realised.

In who's interest is it to encourage house prices to go so high and therefore out of reach to the young?
43

bluehead,

edinburgh 11/02/2009 11:45:52
good! ,that's less houses being built in Edinburgh,poor auld Edinburgh has been turned into one big gigantic human sardine tin,we are tripping over ,
people through this congestion,it's the nearest I have seen to a concrete jungle,the disgrace of scotland is not on Calton hill it is the people who have destroyed this once wonderfull city that are the disgrace.

 

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