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Published Date: 02 November 2009
A COUNCILLOR today hit out at an "absurd" waste of taxpayers' money in the City Chambers after revealing how she was sent a recorded delivery letter – from an office on the same floor.
Green councillor Alison Johnstone received the letter – which cost the taxpayer £1.11 – from the legal services department in the City Chambers, which is "along the corridor" from her own office.

She said the authority had to be taken to task ove
r its inefficiency and adopt a more "commonsense" approach in a bid to save money as it is faced with making savings of more than £90 million over the next three years.

The recorded delivery letter was a response to an objection she had made to an HMO licensing application in her Meadows and Morningside ward.

She said: "For some reason I was sent a response by recorded delivery from someone along the corridor.

"I know they might have wanted to be sure that I received the response but we have to use common sense.

"That is just complete thoughtlessness which should not be allowed. If mail can be delivered internally, it absolutely must be.

"If they are determined that a signature is needed, they can ask a member of staff to sign for it.

"We can't have taxpayers paying for recorded delivery letters which just travel along the corridor. It's absurd.

"I'm absolutely convinced that we could be more efficient than we are."

Cllr Johnstone revealed that the council uses eight miles of paper in a year during a public meeting organised by parents on education in the 21st century.

She cited that and the letter as examples of areas the council should be looking at to save money, particularly when current money-saving plans include a proposal to close four city primary schools. She said: "I started by looking at the simple cuts we can make in terms of efficiency.

"You can walk into any office and see the amount of paper floating around. A paperless office is never going to be possible, but do we need all the paper that we have, or all the stationery? It's something the audit committee needs to look at very carefully."

Council chiefs say Cllr Johnstone's mail was sent by recorded delivery for "legal reasons".

Councillor Phil Wheeler, the city's finance leader, said: "A small amount of mail has to be sent recorded delivery for legal reasons.

"Finding smarter ways of working is a top priority for this council, as we are facing extremely difficult financial times.

"Earlier this year over 5,000 staff switched to paperless payslips and a programme to cut down on wasted paper is on schedule to deliver significant savings.

"By moving to double-sided documents and a communications campaign to help staff cut down on paper wastage, we project to save £407,000-£550,000 per annum, which equates to 27 million bits of paper by 2010/11."

Waste Watch
NHS bureaucrats and council bosses beware: Waste Watch is back. We are reintroducing our campaign to uncover poor uses of taxpayers' money.

Two years ago we exposed such farces as the council's £36,000 electric dust carts which couldn't cope with the city's hills. In these days of unprecedented pressure on the public purse, we are determined to ensure a fair deal for council taxpayers – but we need your help.

Do you know of an example of public money being wasted? If so, call city council reporter Michael Blackley on 620 8742 or e-mail mblackley@edinburgh news.com.



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  • Last Updated: 02 November 2009 10:10 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Edinburgh Council
 
1

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02/11/2009 12:07:19
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Mince Pie Supper,

02/11/2009 12:14:07
I'm surprised the letter didn't get lost in the post.
3

Foo,

02/11/2009 12:22:57
~generic outrage~
4

PDubbs,

02/11/2009 12:41:35
How much tax payers money did she waste running to the EEN and promoting this story? Bet she was getting paid whilst running this story.
5

Brian Ferrari,

02/11/2009 12:44:44
Seems fair enough to me.

How much would it have cost to send someone along the corridor, find the Councillor was not there, go back, remember to back along again, Councillor not there, try phoning, arrange to meet, get signature from Councillor to prove delivery. All to save £1.11.

I'm right of course.
6

Curious Yellow,

Edinburgh 02/11/2009 12:54:15
Depending exactly on what legislation covers the situation, it may be that there is a requirement for the council to 'serve' the response, and that is invariably ordered to be by recorded delivery post.

Maybe Ms Johnstone would have been better advised to check this out before running to the EEN and mouthing off.
7

Seabhag,

Edinburgh 02/11/2009 13:08:20
Some of the commenters need to read the story before commenting. I was at the meeting referred to when Cllr Johnstone was asked a question about how to protect frontline services in schools if budgets are cut. She gave a range of examples of inefficiency costing millions and then finished with this "symbolic" example. The Evening News reporter was at this meeting and took the story from there.
8

Hmm?,

02/11/2009 13:12:19
"Council chiefs say Cllr Johnstone's mail was sent by recorded delivery for "legal reasons".

Councillor Phil Wheeler, the city's finance leader, said: "A small amount of mail has to be sent recorded delivery for legal reasons."

As usual with the 'News, you have to read the full article to find out it's another non-story...

However, two comments:

1. Is running to the News really an appropriate way to behave in this instance? Couldn't Ms Johnstone simply raise it with whomever issued the letter? Or would I be cynical in thinking she's trying to show off her green credentials and make herself look good?

2. There must be some irony in a councillor complaining about a waste of taxpayers' money. Whilst I am sure that Ms Johnstone is a paragon of virtue when it comes to her expenditure, I'll just mention two words - "councillors" and "expense claims".

Do Councillors still get subsidised (from taxpayers' money presumably)meals at City Chambers?
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Brian Ferrari,

02/11/2009 13:15:05
#8

I see, so it is the commenters that are at fault.
10

Hmm?,

02/11/2009 13:15:08
"Waste Watch
NHS bureaucrats and council bosses beware: Waste Watch is back. We are reintroducing our campaign to uncover poor uses of taxpayers' money."

Oooh scary, I bet they're shaking in their shoes... *rolls eyes*
11

Hmm?,

02/11/2009 13:16:24
"I'll just mention two words - "councillors" and "expense claims"."

Oops! Just realised that's three words! Doh!
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02/11/2009 13:21:07
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Rambo The Jambo,

02/11/2009 13:26:06
Civic Government (Scotland) Act 1982

SCHEDULE 1

Licensing—Further Provisions as to the General System

1-(3) An objection or representation shall be made for the purposes of sub-paragraph (1) above if it is delivered by hand within the time there specified to the licensing authority or posted (by registered or recorded delivery post) so that in the normal course of post it might be expected to be delivered to them within that time.

So there.
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Thomas the Tank,

Edinburgh 02/11/2009 13:39:09
#14 - not quite. What you're quoting covers service of an Objection TO the Licensing Authority. These seems no requirement for them to send an acknowledgement to the Objector, by either first class or recorded delivery. And does every 'objector' get such an acknowledgement, or just daft cooncillors?
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02/11/2009 13:48:26
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Nick Nick,

Edinburgh 02/11/2009 13:57:52

#8 - Thanks for clarifying, Councillor Johnstone didn't "run to the EEN" with this story, their own reporter did.

Also not (thanks #8) that this was just one little example in a range of economies which the Council should be making.

Whether it's a legitimate news story or not, sounds like a perfectly sensible point is being made.
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Nick Nick,

Edinburgh 02/11/2009 13:58:14
Oops - 2nd para. "Also note..."
18

Brian Ferrari,

02/11/2009 14:14:26
Nick Nick

Isn't that a picture of the Cllr posing with the offending envelope for the EEN camera?

Vote green; get publicity-seeking news fodder.

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Rambo The Jambo,

02/11/2009 14:18:42

# 15 Thomas the Tank

I will look again - I hate being wrong!
20

Paul Voltaire,

02/11/2009 15:06:15
#6
Councillor Johnstone is indeed a corker but I am afraid she just ain't in Ms Kane's class. :(
21

Save the cheerleader - save the world,

02/11/2009 15:24:21
#8 Absolutely correct. This was one example, given as part of an answer to a question at a public meeting. The EN then picked it up as a story. So the criticisms of the councillor involved are misplaced.

My only complaint here is that this is the EN's only report of this meeting. The meeting was a first for Edinburgh - an event organised by parents across the city to quiz our politicians on the future of education in Edinburgh. A number of important points were discussed by both councillors and audience. Is this really the best the EN can do?
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Nick Nick,

Edinburgh 02/11/2009 15:28:20

#19 - Undeniably true mate.
23

Unimpressed one,

02/11/2009 15:36:24
Must be a really slow news day.....
24

Gorgie Anthony,

02/11/2009 17:52:28
it'll be christmas soon.
25

Calum Crubag,

02/11/2009 18:31:55
#26 - Tony Baloney. Like this is a new development. Care to look at Westminster?
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02/11/2009 19:22:22
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Bandy Mattlements,

02/11/2009 19:32:13
When EN posters exchange views, mere reason should suffice
But Tony just abuses folk, and it's not very nice
The EN mods should ban him, for kicking up a stink
But since they won't, it's up to us to tell him what we think.

GorgieTonysadoldnuttertramstheyareatrocious
They won't have an upper deck, but he's too daft to notice
He only wants to go to Leith, because it's where he cruises
Gorgie-Tony-sad-old-nutter-trams-they-are-atrocious!
28

Wullie Coyote,

02/11/2009 20:12:48
33
It must be like looking in a mirror for you then!
29

The new waspy,

02/11/2009 20:34:56
Awh poor old gorgie tony wish you posters would stop abusing the silly old git
30

Junglebhoy,

Livingston 02/11/2009 22:40:02
Could have given that money towards paying for the private boys keeping your streets clean.
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Julian.,

edinburgh 02/11/2009 22:45:12
#22 Save the cheerleader,

Yes, it may have been a story picked up by the EEN. But surely the question is whether the example she gave was a good example of waste. If it wasn't then it kind of shoots a hole in the credibility of her argument.

And the only other example quoted is that the council uses 8 miles of paper...which means absolutely sod all. I mean for all we know Glasgow might use 80 miles.
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jock1,

03/11/2009 05:22:06
I despair...............

 

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