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Acting now to stub out smoking will save lives in the future



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Rich and poor can benefit from better support, says Sheila Duffy.
WHEN it comes to smoking, the health inequalities gap in Scotland remains wide. Smoking rates in affluent areas are often under 20 per cent with rates in deprived areas around 40 per cent – but those are average figures. As the Evening News reported
earlier this week, if you look deeper, the actual divide between communities is alarmingly high.

The estimated figures of those smoking within the Edinburgh North Community Health Partnership (CHP) area include a high of 44.5 per cent in Muirhouse and a low of 9.5 per cent in Murrayfield and Ravelston. The figures are similar for Edinburgh South CHP at 44 per cent in Greendykes and Niddrie Mains and ten per cent in Fairmilehead. The picture is similar outside Edinburgh. In Midlothian CHP, Mayfield has a rate of 38 per cent and Eskbank a low of 16 per cent And in East Lothian CHP Prestonpans is at 36 per cent and North Berwick west at 15 per cent.

So throughout the Lothians, if you travel just a couple of miles, smoking rates can increase four fold. And the higher the smoking rate, the higher the ill health and early deaths caused by smoking. 25 per cent of all deaths in Lothian are due to smoking but early deaths and smoking related disabilities will be concentrated in disadvantaged communities.

Death rates are now two to three times higher in disadvantaged social groups, and poorer people can also expect to experience more illness and disability problems. So what can be done? The answer is two-fold. Prevention and cessation.

Preventing future generations from smoking is the key to reducing ill health in the future. We must do all we can to prevent children from taking up this highly addictive habit. This includes licensing tobacco sales to stop rogue retailers selling to children. Removing cigarettes from their current prominent promotional displays will also help prevent tobacco companies advertising this lethal product to children. And helping smokers to stop through cessation support and advice will reduce the ill-effects of smoking on public health.

ASH Scotland wants to see cessation services more available and accessible throughout Scotland, with targeted, purpose-designed programmes for those low income communities where smoking rates are highest. Services should also be placed at the heart of communities as well as in traditional health settings. This requires increased training and resourcing of a wider variety of people such as youth and community workers.

To ensure the long-term health of Scotland's people, it is vital we provide all possible support to smokers trying to give up, and take steps to prevent our young people from becoming addicted to tobacco. By investing in prevention and cessation now, we can save lives in the future.

• Sheila Duffy is chief executive of ASH Scotland





The full article contains 489 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 10 April 2008 9:56 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Tobacco
 
1

Big Eddie,

Edinburgh 10/04/2008 10:54:55
All adults have the absolute right to smoke as much as they like, drink as much as they like and eat as much unhealthy food as they like. It's a free country.

Having said that, poor health is a millstone round Scotland's neck. It soaks up our hard earned tax money and damages our economy and our international competitiveness. And probably the biggest single cause of that ill health is smoking.

So we aren't doing ourselves any favours by trying to pretend that there isn't a massive problem here. The links between smoking, deprivation and ill health are extremely complex and won't be addressed overnight. But we owe it to ourselves and our children to try and tackle the massive health inequalities that exist within our society. And addressing smoking is one of the most effective ways of doing that.

The first priority should be to stop children and young people from taking up smoking in the first place. We should also do everything we can to protect them - and other non-smokers - from being exposed to other people's smoke as much as possible.

The other thing we must do is make sure that any smoker who wants to give up (and every study indicates that that's most of them) has access to effective cessation treatment. At the moment, there's a bit of a postcode lottery going on, with those in the most deprived areas (with the highest smoking rates) having the worst access.

Once again, I would emphasise that this isn't about health fascism (not that that will stop the pro-smoking zealots from storming in with their flaming rants). Anyone who genuinely wants to carry on smoking (and I myself enjoy a wee cigar now and again) should be allowed to do so. But for pity's sake, let's stop kids from taking up the habit, at least until they're old enough to judge the relative costs and benefits for themselves.
2

paulr,

edinburgh 10/04/2008 11:51:18
So long as the governments of our country and others continue to reap massive profits from the tobacco industry, no real action to stub out smoking will ever take place.
In the real world where we have to live, PROFIT takes precedence over human life, even in this country.
3

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 10/04/2008 12:29:02
I see the nazis are moaning about smoking again. Why can't they get a life, open their eyes and see that smoking is not nearly as harmful as they delude themselves that it is?
4

David from New Mills,

Restrained Pleasantville, U.K. 10/04/2008 12:59:50
#3, Petrol Man.
One thing you can't accuse p.h. of is unpredictability, chunnering on about nazis under the bed as usual.
If smoking is such a wonderful pleasurable habit, why do so many smokers wish they could give it up? Does p.h. really want a new generation to be denied a chance to escape the addiction, or does it make him feel better that he's not alone in his state of self delusion?
5

Big Eddie,

Edinburgh 10/04/2008 13:00:53
The Alternative Fuel Head would argue that black is white and up is down. You've got to admire the brass neck of the man, to be able to come out with comments like this while keeping a straight face.

Smoking not nearly as harmful as they delude themselves that it is? Well, here's how harmful I think it is:

- 24% of all deaths in Scotland linked to smoking;
- An average of 22 years of life lost per smoking related death among middle aged men and women;
- 91% of lung cancer deaths attributable to smoking

Pray tell us, Mr Fuel Head, just how harmful *you* think smoking is? I'm just dying to find out. Please provide independent sources.

And before you advise the nazis (Godwin's Law strikes early) to "get a life", perhaps you could get 22 extra years of life by packing in the pernicious weed. Just a thought. Of course, if you're determined to become another smoking related mortality statistic, it is entirely your own choice and your own funeral.
6

Xena - Warrior Princess,

10/04/2008 13:16:45
#2 paulr - I couldn't agree more. If they are serious about the risk why don't they ban it altogether, the money takes precedence.
7

Stephen101,

Stay away from normal people please 10/04/2008 13:31:23
#3 Fuel Head.

Problem is smokers stink. They also create poisonous fumes which they expect non smokers to tolerate without a whimper.

You want to smoke? Just get on with it, preferably at home but do NOT do it where it will effect others. Majority of people now know they can stand up against your selfish ways.

You smokers are self centered stupid people as the above article shows. Smoke on in private please, and we should soon be rid of you.
8

filthy,

10/04/2008 13:56:06
3# Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head.

Please keep on smoking mate- the more you smoke the quicker i wont have to read your daily drivel ....
9

Anonym,

somewhere 10/04/2008 14:27:27
Who's forcing you to read, filthy?
10

filthy,

10/04/2008 14:34:13
#9 sad reply...
11

filthy,

10/04/2008 14:38:36
i read with hope in my heart that one day it might not be drivel, what kind of message is the idiot carrying to younger readers...
12

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, U.K. 10/04/2008 14:51:08
#8,filthy.
Filthy should be a little more patient and remember that the more people like Petrol Man and Colin Gee rave on, the more people will recognise the abject lack of reasoned argument on their part. This is similar to all those cranks and nutters on speakers' corner, who gain a short lived, bemused audience, the latter moving on when the entertainment value has waned.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
S.G. Tallentyre, in "The Friends of Voltaire", 1907.
13

Man On Corstorphine Omnibus,

Edinburgh 10/04/2008 15:41:25
To Stephen

Fumes from ciggies are not nearly as obnoxious as your comments. Get this: people who smoke (through choice, with all the medical facts readily available), die younger than the rest of the population. Therefore, that means that pompous asses like you will be able afford to live longer in your over-heated nursing homes, dribbling down your bibs, and "spoiling" your underwear because you have lost control of your bowels, while waiting patiently for relatives to come to visit but who never do.
If that's your choice - fine. Leave us to ours.
14

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 10/04/2008 16:20:00
#5:

- 24% of all deaths in Scotland linked to smoking;

Prove it. Show me death certificates or post-mortum reports that back this up.

- An average of 22 years of life lost per smoking related death among middle aged men and women;

Compared to what? That statement is just complete rubbish.

- 91% of lung cancer deaths attributable to smoking

Rubbish. Show me proof.

Anyone can write down meaningless drivel like this but so far, no-one has shown me conclusive proof that they contain any substance whatsoever.

To all of you died-in-the-wool antis here, thank christ you are in a tiny minority because leading a normal life would be untenable if you were not. You spout rubbish based upon whatever stupid bit of propaganda you happen to have read recently, or based upon whatever comes to your sick minds first. You then quote it as though it is absolute truth when it is in fact just rubbish.

You then insult and redicule anyone who dares to contradict you or have a slightly varying opinion about things---and as for people who challenge the authenticity of your drivel, well, they should be hung, drawn and quartered shouldn't they?

There is a great deal of similarity to your collective attitude and what was going on in the mid 1930s in Germany. To wit: lack of tolerance, incessant propaganda, disinformation, persecution, marginalisation and attempts to discredit by vilification.

You need look no further than this thread to see evidence of this so don't even try to deny it or twist it round.

Smoking can damage your health when done to excess. That is all. There is no more to it than that.
15

David from New Mills,

Pleasantly smoke free Pleasantville, U.K. 10/04/2008 19:06:43
#13, Man On Corstorphine Omnibus,Edinburgh.
I wonder what MoCOE believes his fate will be? Years of coughing his guts up first thing every morning, followed by a terminal era of spoon feeding when he's so clogged up by emphysema that he can scarcely swallow? Sounds fun. I wonder if the family will be supportive by wanting to come and watch.
Some freedom. Some choice.
16

David from New Mills,

Pleasantly smoke free Pleasantville, U.K. 10/04/2008 19:18:52
#14, Petrol Man.
"You then insult and redicule anyone who dares to contradict you or have a slightly varying opinion about things.........lack of tolerance, incessant propaganda, disinformation, persecution, marginalisation and attempts to discredit by vilification."
Remind readers of any one in particular? Sorry, no prizes on this one.
"Smoking can damage your health when done to excess. That is all." So what's p.h.'s medically approved "safe limit"? One over his current consumption, perhaps?
17

DeniseX,

London 10/04/2008 19:22:07
Wandering round Oxford and breathing the city's air is equivalent to smoking three packets of cigarettes a day, according to research into air quality statistics.

The work done by Calor Gas, which produces liquified petroleum gas, found that despite the enormous pollution from London traffic, people in three other cities - Oxford, Bath and Glasgow - suffered more damage to their lungs than Londoners.
Why bother to smoke, when you can go for nice healthy walk?

18

Thomas Laprade,

Thunder Bay, Ont, Canada 11/04/2008 07:24:02
Stamp out smoking and it will save lives
Stamp out drinking and it will save lives
Stamp out driving car and it will save lives
Stamp out...I think you know what I'm. getting at
19

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, U.K. 11/04/2008 09:42:56
#18,Thomas Laprade,Thunder Bay, Ont, Canada.
Stamp out dissent and it will save arguments?
20

Big Eddie,

Edinburgh 11/04/2008 11:04:21
Alternative fuel head's comments suggest that no matter what the other health impacts might be, smoking can lead to no small measure of paranoia in certain cases.

No-one is trying to persecute, vilify or marginalise you. As I pointed out in my original post, I smoke myself on occasions, and like you, I would be upset if anyone tried to make it illegal. But the difference between us is that I recognise that there are negative health impacts associated with smoking, not only for myself but also for other people. That's just common sense, and to pretend otherwise indicates a level of scepticism straying into the realms of wanton denial.

You deny the statistics that I offered. That's your prerogative. They aren't my stats, they come from Health Scotland. I'm sorry if you don't accept them; perhaps you could provide alternative figures for the adverse health impacts of smoking. How many people do you think die from smoking related illnesses each year? You don't need to provide death certificates, just independent, peer-reviewed figures.

The aim of this article is to point out the very strong links that exist between smoking rates and deprivation. Smoking (and the resultant health impacts) is most common among those who can least afford it. Smoking results in poor health for many in deprived communities, stopping them from working and contributing to an ongoing cycle of poverty and ill health. Scotland simply can't afford to carry on like this, and trying to do something about it doesn't make anyone a fascist or a nazi.
21

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 11/04/2008 11:29:30
Eddie,

I accept that smoking can cause health problems, in the same way that I accept that other things can cause health problems.

What I will never accept though is all the current hysteria surrounding smoking whereby some people genuinely believe that if they catch a whiff of tobacco smoke, they are somehow going to be adversely affected by it in the long term. And I also do not accept that everyone who smokes is certain to suffer from terrible diseases and die prematurely in agony.

What they have done with smoking is a classic example of introducing paranoia into the public mind by use of propaganda and mis-information. That is exactly what happened in Germany in the mid 1930s and THAT is one of the main reasons that I often draw parallels with the nazis---although I find that some people take that personally instead of actually thinking about what I am saying.

Smoking is not the only thing subject to this nowadays. Other areas which are gilded up are health and safety, alcohol, speeding, climate change... etc etc. The pattern is always the same. Take a proven fact, assume something related to it, "prove" your assumption using junk science or by taking things out of context and put that out as undesputable fact. Then vigourously attack and discredit anyone who disgrees with you. If they ask valid and reasonable questions about it, dismiss their questions as irrelevant. At the same time constantly bombard the public with propaganda to change their opinion and get them on your side.

As I say, smoking can be detrimental to your health---that fact is plain---but it is nowhere near as harmful as it is made out to be. Real life historical evidence supports that. You don't need any scientific studies to verify that.
22

Kevin Mulvina,

Brampton 11/04/2008 16:23:00
Is the World health Organization through HIA Industry partnerships, loaning its stamp of approval to cruelty and intolerance? There are consequences to consider, not the least of which is the fact Philip Morris stock values have tripled in the past eight years as a direct result of a huge shift in responsibilities.

Anti smoking, Anti fat and Anti alcohol in their current renditions are progressing perilously close to the anti witch movement in Salem. One has to keep in mind Hitler was a staunch paternalist with all the deceptive packaging removed, and what that popular attitude empowered in what he would eventually do. I repeat; there are consequences to consider, not the least of which is the fact Philip Morris stock values have tripled in the past eight years as a direct result of a huge shift in responsibilities.

We often hear the phrases "measures which reduce tobacco use", “Those who wish to harm children” and “defenders of the Tobacco industry” as empowerment spin to legitimize smoking bans, all in a stated effort to “Help smokers to quit”

It is highly offensive and blatantly opportunistic to state; anyone who wishes to defend their own freedom. or in fact defending their own personal economy, by challenging the efforts of Paternalist Lobby groups, to inflate the value and cost of a product they know a smoker will use every day, Is a promoter of the Tobacco industry, who are doing quite well by their silence, considering.

If the truth is recognized Public Health is actually the true defender of the Tobacco Industry’s interests.
They have;
-Reduced the costs of advertising and research,
- Reduced the cost of the raw tobacco through "no safe cigarette" campaigns.
-Eliminated the costs of litigation and all responsibility.
-Increased the value of the product through deals like the MSA agreement.
-Surrendered them stability long term; in both market share and cash flow analysis.

Most significantly they have shifted the blame for costs t
23

Kevin Mulvina,

11/04/2008 16:26:34
Most significantly they have shifted the blame for costs to society associated to smoking, from the industry to the consumer, who gets to not only pay double those claimed costs, but gets to wear the Yellow Star in community perspectives, as a result of what appear to be Public Health efforts to defend Tobacco Industry interests.

All the while violent confrontations which were once rare, in resolving disputes concerning smoking are increasing, at an alarming rate within communities.

As for the statement "measures which reduce tobacco use"; in theory the denormalizing strategies of making smokers “not normal”, might be believed to reduce tobacco use, however even a short term analysis indicates this has not been the case. The recent and as yet unexplained increases we see in young people starting to smoke is alarming. Public Health statements in the media grow more outrageous and demanding by the day, eventually [if not already] young people will be starting to smoke, just to spite the anti freedom attitude associated with these regressive and paternalistic campaigns. Just like the last time prohibition was deemed a noble human experiment.

Can anyone imagine the coercive value of a single cigarette for those confined inside a prison or a mental institution, where smoking is banned? What consequences from human rights violations in torturing prisoners, will we all have to bear eventually?

If tobacco “medical dependency” or “addiction” is a reality, it constitutes a disability. Dehumanization through public health is then, actually seen as a criminal act, which is an activity which could eventually require punishment, at a huge cost to society when compensation is eventually assessed and paid.

How does anyone moralize punishing an addiction, in order to force compliance to a "prohibitionist normality"?

"Helping someone to quit" is nothing more than a convenient lie, to quell the discomfort of conscience. Medical treatments which demand punishment, a
24

Kevin Mulvina,

11/04/2008 16:27:10
"Helping someone to quit" is nothing more than a convenient lie, to quell the discomfort of conscience. Medical treatments which demand punishment, are not "tough love” or in any way justifiable, they are simply the stepping stones to legitimize the intolerant few among us.

Those very individuals who society used to believe were “not normal"

We can't blame the media entirely, when someone announces a long term education program to purchase hundreds of millions in advertising to warn of the "dangers of second hand smoke" in order to put a lot of pressure on smokers to "help them to quit". Ad agencies would understandably be quite enthused in competing for those large advertising contracts and want to put their best opinions forward, to suit the needs of the client.

What is truly alarming is the fact the increased violence, which is resulting from smokers wearing the Yellow Star of de-normalization, is being played down in the media, apparently in order to keep the monetary drive alive.


"Erosion of Civil Liberties is the genesis of Genocide."

Elizabeth Kirkley Best PHD; Et Al Author of the Shoa education project.
25

Stef,

Bandera, Tx, formerly Edinburgh. 12/04/2008 03:32:50
I gather that this parasitic Sheila Duffy is now senior editor of the Scotsman. I hope that any self respecting journalist employed by this State owned rag should resign. We appear to have daily doses of corrupt propaganda from Duffy and her corrupt ASH criminals, just another department of this equally criminal and intolerant Fuhrer Brown junta. Vote out all these vermin at the first opportunity and re-establish freedom of choice and decency.
26

Stef,

Bandera, Tx, formerly Edinburgh. 12/04/2008 03:46:27
#19 David from Peasantville,
Yes David, while your at it, why not stamp out commonsense, that is what your Labour party employers have been paying you to do for more than a couple of years since you began began your anti-smoker crusade. Argument is your fuel, whilst debate might contribute to finding solutions, debate and solutions are not something your corrupt paymasters want. Hence all the many 1000's of your ridiculous comments. Please try to find some respectable employment.
27

Stef,

Bandera, Tx, formerly Edinburgh. 12/04/2008 03:50:17
• Sheila Duffy is chief executive of ASH Scotland, as if we didn't know,
ASH = Massive corruption and jobs for worthless folk.
28

Stef,

Bandera, Tx, formerly Edinburgh. 12/04/2008 03:56:56
#Stephen 101,
You smokers are self centered stupid people as the above article shows. Smoke on in private please, and we should soon be rid of you. Typical.
Another brain-less petulant fool with a head full of ASH.
Get a life you intolerant fool.
29

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, thankfully well distanced from Band 12/04/2008 12:24:43
#26, stef, no longer of Edinburgh.
So I can ensure that I receive my bag of silver from my "corrupt paymasters", can delusional stef please confirm my payroll number for me? He must know this, as he's obviously been cyberstalking me for "years". In the meantime, I hope to continue to enjoy the "many 1000's" of his "ridiculous comments".
How about Tobacco Control Officer? Would that sound respectable enough?
30

Stef,

Bandera, Tx, formerly Edinburgh. 13/04/2008 00:30:58
#29 David,
Tobacco Control Officer, if we dissect and look seperately at each of these words as topics,
Tobacco,--- your fanatical unremitting obsession.
Control,--- your other fanatical obsession to impose your petty values on to the wishes and freedoms of others, to create division by generating hatred and contempt.
Officer,---- not satisfied and frustrated by these above obsessions, and lacking in any skills, we find many of these worthless characters quite willing to accept their 'bag of silver' too carry out the corrupt and deceitful policies of this worthless, corrupt, 'right wing' junta, headed by Fuhrer Broon. Clearly a stark reminder of Nazi Germany in the 1930's, the control mentality and its concepts created many jobs for petty small minded freaks who would not have any real use to society except to sustain themselves and justify the corrupt regime. There is nothing delusional about my reply, or is it ridiculous. If indeed, a TCO is your favored occupation, given the current climate and the politics of the moment there is nothing respectable or decent in what you do, I would describe it as parasitic, much in line with the whole ASH bandwagon and the low-life it attracts. Certainly ASH have been successful in the spread of hatred and division, bankrupted 1000's of business's, created, unemployment unhappiness and disharmony of Mammoth proportions. Certainly nothing delusional in that.
The level of corruption is almost unbelieveable and unimaginable, how they design and run Government policy, they even influence the levels of penalty's to impose on people who wish to exercise their freedoms of choice. THIS IS NO CHARITY. I ask "where is the money coming from" to pay these worthless beings such as the likes of David and these Sheila Duffy pariahs.
31

Stef,

Bandera, Tx, formerly Edinburgh. 13/04/2008 02:32:52
A MESSAGE TO GORDON BROWN and his parcel of rogues,____

Your filthy, wicked and corrupt regime is nearly gone. I ask people to vote for tolerance, harmony, freedom of choice, renew the principles of democracy, sack all the worthless people you have employed in all the worthless jobs you have created. This is not socialist Government you have created, but a right wing junta hell bent on destroying the social structure and culture of our nation. I suggest we put you and all your sidekicks into the ASHcan along with all your 1000's of Quangos and Yes men, weld down the lid and bury the lot of you, for eternity. Ordinary decent folk have had enough of all your corruption, wicked wars, and unbelievable breathtaking lies and deceit. I hope you will all get what you deserve and coming to you, much in line with the many 1000's of lives you have destroyed, Your corrupt Labour Party has failed everyone, there is no one who has any self respect who could say they can be proud or support your filthy regime unless they are part of that same cesspit. The party's nearly over for you pack of vermin and will soon come to an end.
Broon, decent folk have had enough of your corrupt lies and wicked policies. You are disgusting Broon, Darling and all the rest of you crooked gangsters, and small time rogues and villains. Finally please Brown/Darling, do not return to Scotland after your demise, you are for the most part unwelcome in the country that spawned you and that you have done much too destroy.

VOTE OUT AND END FUHRER BROON'S Junta
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David from New Mills,

Rational Pleasantville, U.K. 13/04/2008 11:58:38
#30, Stef the Messiah.
Stef is obviously champing at the bit to return home in order to cast his vote, in his dedicated mission to oust "Führer Broon" and his "parasitic" band of agents, ASH, CRUK, SCOTH, Tobacco Control Officers and other " paid control freaks", all out for their "bag of silver". So, who will enjoy his vote? The Publican Party, or have they disbanded after their last electoral fiasco?
Perhaps Stefano could find a band of like minded followers, and form his own party under his farsighted leadership. After all, the Nazis and communists grew from small beginnings, and enjoyed some success for a while.
I would look forward to learning the results of all his electoral efforts come May. In the meantime, may he long continue to amuse us.
Actually, I've been assuming stef to be an abbreviation for Stefano. Have I been wrong in all these "thousands" of postings? Could stef really be a Stephanie?
33

DeniseX,

London 13/04/2008 14:01:59
*17 and *32 I don't know what David has been inhaling. I suspect it's more that ordinary polution. Not knowing whether it's 'Stefano' or 'Stephanie', would indicate that he gets confused with his sexuality?
34

David from New Mills,

Sweet smelling Pleasantville. 13/04/2008 14:18:10
#33, Deni seX.
Only tobacco free air, so it's decidedly not "more that(?) ordinary polution". My confusion would indeed indicate uncertainty about stef's gender, which makes me wonder now whether it's actually Denis eX?

 

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