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Published Date: 02 March 2009
SCOTTISH Parliament bosses are spending £223,000 of taxpayers' money to build a "triangular roundabout" as a security measure outside the Holyrood building.
The one-metre-high concrete construction in front of the entrance to the underground car park in Holyrood Road is intended to prevent a terrorist attack on the parliament.

But the cost comes on top of a bill of more than £250,000 for a new system of traffic lights and pop-up barriers to control entry to the car park.

Politicians today questioned the need for such expensive security measures.

The "roundabout", already under construction, will serve as a chicane which vehicles will have to manoeuvre their way round to get into the car park.

A parliament source said: "The idea is to make it impossible for someone to drive down Holyrood Road at high speed and crash the gates.

"The function of the chicane is to put an obstacle in front of the building."

The work also includes installing two large concrete plinths and up to 14 steel bollards nearby as additional barriers to any terrorist assault.

But Independent Lothians MSP Margo MacDonald was sceptical about the project.

"How many of these kind of incidents have there been?" she asked. "If it was a regular occurrence, I would be prepared to take their word for it that this is a necessary precaution.

"But if it's only a 'what if', I think we could find better uses for the money."

The work is being carried out by Land Engineering, the road maintenance contractor to the city council, and the parliament is picking up the bill.

Parliament officials say the measures were agreed on the recommendation of the UK Government's specialist security agency.

A parliament spokeswoman confirmed the cost of the work was £223,788.

She said: "Following advice from the Centre for the Protection of National Infrastructure on the need to improve perimeter security, the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body agreed, among some other measures, to install a chicane.

"Other than to say the work will involve traffic calming measures, there are obvious reasons why we would not expand on this given it involves parliament security."

Last year, the Evening News revealed the parliament was spending £263,806 on barriers, traffic lights and a swipe-card system at the underground car park to ensure cars going in opposite directions did not crash on the narrow ramp.

The expense was criticised at the time as "health and safety enthusiasts having a field day".

Less than six months after being installed, the system broke down with the lights stuck on red, leaving security guards to wave through cars after checking there was nothing coming in the opposite direction. MSPs branded the situation "farcical", but sources claim the problem has now been fixed.

In other security moves revealed by the Evening News last month, the parliament plans to install a total of 162 new bollards along pavements running beside the Holyrood building on Canongate and Horse Wynd.

It is also proposing 18 rectangular concrete benches in front of the parliament's existing ponds, and six leaf-shaped benches on the corner of Canongate.

SPENDING SPREE BY MSPs
In the past year alone the parliament has spent...

• £94,000 on plugging leaks.

• £8000 to rewire lights in the MSP block.

• £20,000 to treat wooden slats.

• An undisclosed amount for revarnishing and partially replacing the oak canopy over the public entrance.

• An unspecified amount to fit extra under-floor radiators.

• £20,000 on a giant granite "Public Entrance" sign.

• £250,000 on barriers, traffic lights and a swipe-card system at the car park.

• £56,000 revamping the exhibition in the foyer.

• £50,000 for mini-aerials to boost mobile phone reception.

• Thousands of pounds are due to be spent on gates and turnstiles at the Queensberry House and Canongate entrances.

The full article contains 659 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 03 March 2009 9:21 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: The Scottish Parliament
 
1

ochone,

Sauchie, Clacks 02/03/2009 11:06:15
Strange that this should be needed, especially when you recall that following the removal of Saddam, no less a personage than Tony Blair told us that the world was now a safer place!
2

Foo,

02/03/2009 11:48:36
I wasn't aware that the humble triangle struck such fear in the hearts of evil terrorists.
3

redcliffe62,

02/03/2009 11:53:08
this will stop the tanks from westminster breaking in when the independence vuote is taken.
4

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 02/03/2009 11:59:36
Waste of money,terrorists are very professional,so a silly rounabout would not stop them.
5

Edward,

02/03/2009 11:59:42
Reality check please!
Can we compare exactly what other Parliament buildings
cost to run and maintain as well as the additional anti terrorist schemes that have been put in place since 09/11?
Think you will find that Holyrood spending is a complete water drop compared with others!
6

Edward,

02/03/2009 12:00:32
#4 alfonsa
you would know of course, being an expert
7

eric,

Lothian 02/03/2009 12:01:55
Looks like a Northern ireland lookout post,this city is such a mess now.
8

Foo,

02/03/2009 12:03:34
I'd much rather see increased security measures at Cockenzie, Torness, Waverley and Edinburgh airport.

The politicians should take their chances.

9

Right side,

Edinburgh 02/03/2009 12:21:52
So what happens if the "terrorists" have a motorbike, will the triangular, roundabout, square, hexagon, whatever other shape is used to thwart terrosists, prevent them from doing their damage?
10

Slobberchops the Aesthete,

02/03/2009 12:25:01
Heartening to see so many people up in arms at this unwarrantable interference with individual freedom.

Ever since the Parliament was built it has been my daily custom to drive down Holyrood Road at high speed and crash the gates.

No one has ever objected (though admittedly their jaws were usually wired shut at the time).

But now the liberty to pursue this hobby - my only remaining pleasure - has been torn from me by this totalitarian assembly of jackbooted, whip-wielding, toothbrush-moustachioed spoilsports who smell of wee.

You rotten swine. I'll get you for this.

Even if it means tunnelling under the Parliament and driving my car vertically upwards.
11

Hector the Red,

02/03/2009 12:25:24
Pythagoras will be turning in his grave!
12

Foo,

02/03/2009 12:34:03
I trust studies have been conducted into the effectiveness of other geometric shapes on reducing terrorist attacks.

How about a concave polygon outside Hollyrood? A parallelogram in front of Alex Salmonds house? Or perhaps a series of pentagrams protecting the airport?
13

Right side,

Edinburgh 02/03/2009 12:39:57
A cheaper option would be to employ a person to sit about 100metres from the gate with a police type stinger trap. As soon as someone gets too close, they depoly the stinger and ruin their tyres, that'll teach them.
Does anyone know of a spare unit near the Parliament that could be used for tyre repairs?
14

Douglas,

Bathgate 02/03/2009 12:45:05
We can expect an attack from Al-Toblerone faction of the Scalene Liberation Front any day now.
15

malcyh,

02/03/2009 12:47:51
Travel at high speed down Holyrood? You're joking you can hardly crawl round this city at the moment. Terrorist attck. How important do the clowns inside Holyrood think they are?
16

IainT,

Prestonpans 02/03/2009 12:50:52
#9 You know what? I'm pretty sure a motorbike isn't going to break through the security gates at any speed. A truck, on the other hand...

That's not to say this should have been built - but there are plenty of better arguments!
17

capy,

embra 02/03/2009 12:51:37
No trouble with there being security.None.

What i do have trouble with is the price. Nearly a quarter of a million?? Are the bricks made of gold?

Come on get a grip.
18

Ecto,

02/03/2009 12:58:49
why would anyone want to attach this overblown toon cooncil in any case, these measures are a total waste of cash. The parliament has been such a disappointment for what could have been so much
19

The Ayrshire Bard,

02/03/2009 13:06:31
Surely the present ruling party are wrecking Scotland already. Hopefully this might follow the Bermuda Triangle and the whole bunch of them will disappear never to be seen or heard of again.
Why can't I get delusions of grandeur and self important prats out of my mind?
20

Peedie Paws,

02/03/2009 13:31:52
The roundabout will be really useful if the attack was coming from the air! Remember, that's how the twin towers was hit, albeit the Parliament building isn't as tall but they could use a glider from Arthur Seat and drop in on the building just as easy.
21

Right side,

Edinburgh 02/03/2009 13:32:06
#16 quite true but whether it's a lorry or a motorbike it's only likely to be able to detonate something at the gate.
Maybe it'd be easier for them just to climb over the gate? Or use a pogostick.
22

Sir AIbert x2,

02/03/2009 13:50:26
#20 Peedie Paws

"but they could use a glider from Arthur Seat and drop in on the building just as easy."

Are you being serious? The terrorist would kill themselves without doing any real damage to the building.

Och ma sides......nearly as daft a comment that Foo would come out with.
23

Foo,

02/03/2009 13:53:18
#22 - A glider, not a hang glider. Think before you let your belly rumble.

A glider is perfectly capable of holding Kg's of explosive.
24

plord,

edinburgh 02/03/2009 14:00:26
What a joke, I walked past it on Friday looked like a piece of sh!t. They could move the stone lion currently in the park next to the palace. would have been nicer, cheaper and more effective.
25

materialise,

Planet Reality 02/03/2009 14:07:05
I work in a factory and 3 years ago we had a gate system installed - 4 gates with lights and auto gubbins and metal sensors etc, two gates for lorries, one for cars, one pedestrian, with 3 swipe card terminals, intercom, cameras.

Total Cost; £15,000. And that's a mega big company driven by H&S & they had to dig up concrete in several places and run new mains power and everything.

It isn’t rocket science. Is there somewhere I could see the tender document on-line and the contractors bids in addition to the names of the officials who not only authorised this spend but even think it is necessary?
26

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 02/03/2009 14:07:32
Do MSPs seriously believe that they are 'important' enough to merit the attention of terrorists?

What self-respecting terrorist group would waste good explosives on that dump?

27

Sir AIbert x2,

02/03/2009 14:19:00
#23 Do you think that nobody would notice a glider being taken to the top of Arthur's Seat? Are they just going to jump into the glider and be pushed off the top? Brilliant reply by yourself.
28

Mr C,

edinburgh 02/03/2009 14:29:48
any attack on that building would be a waste of a perfectly good bomb.
29

Foo,

02/03/2009 14:38:06
#27 - Well why didn't you say that in your first post?

I'm sure someone would notice it, yes, but that wasn't what I was pointing out, was it now?
30

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 02/03/2009 14:40:17
Why would anyone waste time and money attacking the Scottish Parliament building, it's making a petty good job of falling down by itself.

On Sunday mornings I usually take an early-morning stroll passed this 'illustrious' structure. Yesterday morning, there they were again, a huge squad of workmen and equipment making some repairs (no doubt unnecessary) to the wooden tressles around the outside of the building. Like the trams this 'thing' is just a huge waste of public money.

But hey folks, pay up and look pleased!!
31

tomias,

Edinburgh 02/03/2009 15:10:32
Roundabout/ triangularabout
Market forces rule;
32

Mallory,

Edinburgh 02/03/2009 15:15:08
This is hardly likely to foil the kind of attacks devised by the IRA at Downing Street (mortars) and within the Westminster Parliament, (CS Gas grenade and Airey Neave's car bomb).

If, heaven forbid, some terrorist does get inside Holyrood the 'strengthened windows' and concrete will magnify the effects of blast.

33

JulesF,

Kirkliston 02/03/2009 15:32:32
Why don't they just ask TIE to put a dummy tram stop out the front. That would probably stop anyone getting in for three or four years ?
34

corriander,

Edinburgh 02/03/2009 16:06:19
The MSPs ( as do the MPs) flatter themselves in thinking that terrorists would want to get rid of them . The terrorists are doing very well for themselves with this lot in power.
35

Transparent?,

Scotland 02/03/2009 16:14:55
If the terrorists had as little imagination as those who work at Holyrood, then 9/11 would never have happened.

And if the terrorists ever needed an excuse to attack Holyrood, then this waste of public money must be it!
36

Eve,

Scotland 02/03/2009 16:21:17
Since when did roundabouts have 3 angles?

Though come to think of it sounds like a pure brillaint idea. May be all juntions in Scotland that only have 3 entrys and exists should be made in a tringle shape instead of a circle.

37

calum,

02/03/2009 16:49:34
Whether the sceptics like it or not, most public buildings of this kind now require significant protection against terrorist attacks and Holyrood is a particularly soft target with its easy access.
To Margo MacDonald, how many attacks did Glasgow Airport have before it was hit by terrorism? And but for their amateurism and sheer luck, many hundreds of innocent people could have been killed. So keep your nonsensical rent-a-quotes to yourself.
As the IRA said famously after the Brighton Bombing, "We only have to get lucky once, the UK has to get lucky every day" ........ a chilling reminder of how little it takes.
38

Sir AIbert x2,

02/03/2009 16:50:08
#36 Eve Hardie?
39

Eve,

Scotland 02/03/2009 17:09:50
#38 Sir AIbert x2: What does that mean??
40

keit011,

02/03/2009 18:06:17
surely if they put up a stop sign that would deter the terrorist.what are these politician's on .who would want to waste time blowing up our bunch of sponging gits
41

Trumpt'on,

02/03/2009 18:12:15
Surely the money is a waste?

After all, why would a terrorist want to attack a place that has no strategic value?
42

keit011,

02/03/2009 18:12:33
who had this idea .did we vote in this paranoid person or is it some ex.mad sas man who has gone crazy with petty cash
43

corriander,

02/03/2009 18:17:05
well said keit011 and Trumpt'on
44

JT,

02/03/2009 18:29:07
Nobody knows when the parliament is actually on site, after all they have better holidays than school kids! After all the CIA dont rate Scotland as a country so why should the terrorists?
45

Episteme,

02/03/2009 18:42:39
Rather a confusing headline as ever from this newspaper.
Only by reading further do we find that the triangabout?? is the smallest part of the whole works package.

Makes me wish that Donaldsons College had become available a few years earlier.

Now that would have made a Parliament building worth crowing about.
46

Unimpressed one,

02/03/2009 19:57:34
#12, "I trust studies have been conducted into the effectiveness of other geometric shapes on reducing terrorist attacks."

It was called a moat and a drawbridge. The moat could have a ducking stool too for giving the MSPs a cold dose of reality for their overspend.
47

Bandit6,

02/03/2009 20:09:02
Bring back the barrage balloon!!!
48

COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 02/03/2009 22:04:36
what.no.machine.guns.the.whole.building.is.a.obstacle
49

R.Slicker,

Over the County line... 02/03/2009 22:29:48
I did not realise that putting a triangle in front of the car park would prevent a jet crashing into the building. Or is it like the Bermuda Triangle. Anyone who flies over it comes a cropper !
50

tumshie heid,

03/03/2009 00:02:09
#37 but with everyone having shiny new i.d cards we will have nothing to fear. Terrorism will be a thing of the past much the same as trams.
51

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03/03/2009 08:37:55
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52

Jay Kay,

03/03/2009 13:40:16
New just in an Al Quida spokesman has just released an official statement "were takin the Scotish Parliment Building aff wur list cause were too feirt o the triangle" he said "ooor suicide bombers were up aww nicht havin nightmares aboot it"
53

dido-bendigo,

Scotland 03/03/2009 18:34:55
The Parliament should show some 'green' thinking and close the car-park instead.
54

darthpaul,

22/03/2009 09:09:49
good to see the parliament are still spending as much as they can on themselves!!!
Hows about they stop wasting OUR money and actualkly do something other than attend rugby matches at OUR expense.
Leaches, like anyone would wanna attack them!!!??
Im sure with their exorbitant wages thay can afford personal protection instead of wasting our money on bloody roundabouts!!! considdering the building they sit in cost almost a trillion quid!!!!!!!!!!!


 

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