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Frantic final efforts to sway 42-day detention vote



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Published Date: 11 June 2008
FRANTIC last-ditch negotiations were under way today as the Government tried to avoid a Commons defeat over extending the period of detention without charge to 42 days.
Ministers were expected to offer Labour rebels a further concession, proposing a compensation plan under which any suspect held for more than 28 days and later not charged could receive £3000 for each extra day in custody.

However, tonight's vote
was still on a knife edge, with Labour rebels insisting their numbers were holding strong.

The nine Democratic Unionist Party MPs from Northern Ireland, who could swing the result, were meeting this morning to discuss their position.

Today, shadow home secretary David Davis said the Tories would "almost certainly" reverse the 42-day terror detention provisions if they were in power.

He said they would focus instead on using intercepted and bugging evidence in court, plea bargaining and allowing suspects to be interviewed after being charged, as well as a "much harder" approach towards those who radicalise young people.

Former cabinet minister Frank Dobson, one of the leading Labour rebels, said the vote was "entirely unpredictable".

He said he expected around half the 50 or 60 opponents of the measure to stick to their position, but admitted: "People are faced with a genuine dilemma."





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  • Last Updated: 11 June 2008 10:53 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Terrorism in the UK
 
1

Ah Bristo,

11/06/2008 12:31:08
"proposing a compensation plan under which any suspect held for more than 28 days and later not charged could receive £3000 for each extra day in custody."

14 days at £3000 per day based on 42 days total still works out at £1000 per day for the duration.

- Bring it on!

Comfy cell, 3 square meals a day & a £42,000 bung at the end.

Where do I sign up -

Ok Joking aside - More waste of taxpayers money by the Liebour party to try & pass more legislation that the majority don't see the need for.

The more of a Fascist you become Gordon, the more they win.
2

Hmm?,

11/06/2008 12:55:49
We're told by the Government that the increase to 42 days is necessary to help us fight terrorism.

Yes, so it is. It's so necessary that no other country in Europe has a detention period anywhere near this length. Neither does the USA (who, you might think have most to fear from terrorist attacks).

So why do we need it?
3

Duncan in Edinburgh,

11/06/2008 13:23:10
This whole 42-day detention scheme has been a huge success for the Labour Government. The genius of it is that it doesn't matter whether they win or lose the vote - they get the knee-jerk Daily Mailers on-side anyway, and get to paint the Tories as soft on terror for opposing it.

But the real point of this was to take up the top political slot in the news for the past week (have you noticed how government ministers have been making statements on it almost every day?) to shift the focus away from the child poverty figures, the back-bench rumblings and Gordon's ratings.

The extra bonus is that it gives Labour rebels a way to "hit back" at the government, placating their constituents and seeming to care, without doing any damage to the government at all.

For once, the Labour spinmeisters are back on form.
4

 Ayrshire Scot™,

11/06/2008 14:30:10
3. Duncan - you are quite correct - Labour are more intent on playing sleazy politics with their nonsensical 42 days detention plans to distract from failure and meltdown elsewhere, a total disgrace
5

Graham Simpson,

Vancouver 11/06/2008 15:38:25
The current legislation allowing arrest without charge and detention without trial for 28 days, is already an obscenity in a country which holds itself to be a democracy. To extend this facist law to 42 days is repugnant to the extreme... particularly from a so called social democratic government.

Everyone who values true democracy and freedom of the individual should be angered by those who would impose these laws and question the entire concept of 'the war against terrorism' and it's phony scare tactics.

It must be very clear to all thinking people, that that if you... without provocation carpet bomb, invade, cause massive death destruction and militarily occupy another country, you are going to have retaliation. This is particularly true about muslim countries who already have sufficient, suicidical fanatics worldwide to wreak revenge on a scale far above their numbers and resources..

Both Russia and America have found this to painfully true and Britain as a fading, hasbeen imperialist should know better by now. If you really want be the worlds bully... best be like Thatcher and stick to beating up the smaller kids on the block who can't or won't fight back.

As for Scotland it is long overdue for us to tear up the ill begotten Act of Union and establish independence with a strong, written constitution that prevents the excesses of power, government deceit and corruption that has long been the 'British Way'.

If a genuine desire for independence, pride in ones country and revulsion towards the policies of the London government aren't enough for the weak at heart in Scotland... then try oil at $200 a barrel!








 

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