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Published Date: 24 January 2008
WHEN George Burley stood face to face with Vladimir Romanov and defied the Russian's orders, Phil Anderton looked on knowing this was a man with the required steel to run a major football outfit.
And it's now clear that those qualities make Burley an ideal man to be Scotland manager.

Burley's unyielding principles ultimately cost him his job as Hearts manager in 2005 when he refused to acquiesce with Romanov's team selection demands. But
Anderton, chief executive at the time, admires his gumption to this day.

Gordon Smith and the SFA board are about to officially declare themselves members of the George Burley fan club by naming him Scotland's new national coach. In doing so, the Blazerati would be well advised never to breach that fine line between football administration and interference.

In the end, it was refusing to play Saulius Mikoliunas and other eastern European imports to suit Vlad's "fantasy football" that was a major part of Burley's downfall.

Anderton's attitude to Romanov was betrayed by the fact that, during this interview, he wouldn't refer to him by name, calling him "the so-called owner" or "fantasy football manager".

And watching 51-year-old Burley glare obstinately into Romanov's eyes in a Balmoral Hotel room, Anderton recognised the ruthless determination that denotes a top-class manager and he believes Hearts' loss two-and-a-half years ago will be Scotland's gain.

"George looks happy-go-lucky but there's a steely character under there," said Anderton. "At Hearts, he wanted to win the league and Scottish Cup, the CIS Cup really wasn't a priority. He played a young team against Livingston and got knocked out in the early rounds of the CIS and I remember the so-called owner getting very upset about that. But Burley stood his ground.

"We also had the so-called owner coming in and berating George constantly about team selection. I'll never forget a meeting we had at the Balmoral Hotel. We were summoned to meet the Russian crew first thing in the morning after drawing 1-1 with Celtic at Parkhead.

"Instead of people being pleased about a good result, the Russian crew were going ballistic. It was, 'you should have played Mikoliunas instead of Skacel. If you had done that we would have won the game 5-1'. The pressure was being put on to play the players that the 'fantasy football manager' thought were right, but Burley was absolutely adamant about playing the players he felt would win matches for Hearts.

"He didn't buy into this rotation policy for the sake of it. He believed in playing players who were playing well because it builds confidence. That will be great for Scotland, he won't be swayed by anyone."

Romanov sacked Anderton just two weeks after dismissing Burley but, despite reports to the contrary, he never signed a confidentiality clause.

Aside from Burley's mental courage, Anderton noted his invigorating effect on players at Tynecastle and expects a continuance with the Scotland squad. He added: "I'm not a football expert and would never claim to be, but I saw his impact on the Hearts team. I'll never forget his first day at Riccarton. He gathered the team and gave a speech, saying simply, 'Look guys, let's go and have some fun and get smiles back on our faces. You're all great footballers, just go and enjoy it and get moving in the league to challenge Celtic and Rangers'. I bumped into Jamie McAllister a few weeks after that.

"I think the season before that he'd come in for criticism from the fans and wasn't really performing. Burley played him during the rebuilding phase and I asked Jamie what the difference was. He said two words: 'George Burley.' He said George had made him believe in himself again.

"Burley just has this uncanny ability to make people feel they are better than perhaps even they believe they are. Kevin Keegan is similar and I don't think it's something you can learn, you just have it.

"Look at George's work with Roman Bednar. He arrived at Hearts primed, keen and ready to play. Then you see what happens when the fantasy football manager thinks he can run the team.

"Bednar was totally dispirited, not scoring goals and lost his touch. Then he goes to West Brom under a good manager (Tony Mowbray] and he's knocking the goals in. The management techniques speak for themselves.

"George will do a great job of motivating the Scotland players, just like Walter Smith and Ally McCoist did. He has both Smith's man-management skills and McCoist's feel-good factor."

Indeed, man-management is Burley's forte.

"When he arrived at Hearts players were unsettled. Paul Hartley was interesting Celtic and Rangers wanted Andy Webster. We had a threadbare squad and no-one really knew what would happen got Hartley fully focused and told Webster not to come on a pre-season trip to Dublin.

"He wanted him to stay at home to get his head sorted. When we came back, Webster was there giving everything for the jersey. Contrast that with what subsequently happened to Andy when a confrontational style of management just didn't work."

Rumpuses aren't Burley's style, but that doesn't mean he won't be able to handle himself in the international arena.



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1

Randan,

24/01/2008 12:11:39
An interesting explanation of the Burley era at Hearts. And you know, I despair that we got rid of him.
Sheer madness, stupidity, and bloody mindedness!
2

Capital,

24/01/2008 12:18:01
Well some of the truth coming out at last. Keep it coming.
3

Gordonzola,

LIVINGSTON 24/01/2008 12:21:37
'you should have played Mikoliunas instead of Skacel. If you had done that we would have won the game 5-1'

That statement says it all about the competence of the so-called owner in respect to team selection.

4

Johnny Jambo,

24/01/2008 12:30:48
It would be good to see a book written by Phil Anderton on the topic, I am sure it would be a very interesting read. Although Romanov would probably try to get it banned.
5

Lenny,

24/01/2008 12:36:50
Not many of the believers commenting on this story. Rolland?.... Rolllland?
6

HMFC_1874,

24/01/2008 12:37:48
Just shows you what Vlad is doing to our club. Wish he had never darkened our door. The lunatics have taken over the asylum......
7

Old Reekies Big Team,

24/01/2008 12:38:56
Brilliant just a shame it's taken him 2 years!!! Why o why are we still going along to Tynecastle in our thousands to line this muppet's pocket's?
8

Mike-S,

bonnyrigg 24/01/2008 12:39:22
The truth has been out there for a long time. The problem has been that the majority of Hearts fans have failed to see it through the mire of misinformation that has constantly flowed out of Tynecastle. This will be the 2nd season that has bean written off with no fruit to bear. Are we the suckers that are having our loyalty abused by this regime? One day we will all waken up and let's hope that when we do it will not be too late to save what's left of our club ? www.thetalkothetoun.com
9

Rambo_the_Jambo,

4-0 at Hampden 24/01/2008 12:53:31
....and where is our new manager??

Time is surely running out for Romanov and only a mass protest and mass boycott by the fans can remove him.

Don't say this will hurt the team because VR can't do anymore damage than he has already done.

Boycott games and ticket sales......hit him where it hurts and lets see who really runs the team, him or the fans.
10

Capital,

near gorgie 24/01/2008 12:56:16
9 Although it's 2 years since he left the club I can understand that he had to wait on settlement or court case. Good on him for not signing a hush agreement. With Romanov waiting until last minute to settle it looks like Anderton chose to go to court rather than sign any agreement and Romanov had to settle without it. Lets hope that Anderton gives the long suffering supporters some more didclosures although I'm sure that many of the Romanov brigade don't want to hear the truth as they look on it as being Anti Hearts.
11

Johnny Jambo,

24/01/2008 12:57:37
#11, sorry mate there are too many supporters with heads in the sand at the moment.

Before I take too much abuse, there are also a fair number of fans who believe that VR is hurting the club, but I don't think there are enough to cause him a concern.
12

Johnny Jambo,

24/01/2008 12:58:17
#6 The Moth, yes "Heartfelt" very good mate.
13

HMFC_1874,

24/01/2008 13:06:24
#11 I would never have advocated a boycott before but I fear now its the only way to hurt this madman who doesn't give a monkeys about our club
14

Magic 7,

24/01/2008 13:08:25
Very interesting article...even although you can try and guess the shambles that is Tynie, this just blows you away.

Two good lessons for both capital clubs here...impact of a good manager bringing out the best in players (eg Burley/Bednar) and what a good manager can achieve with some money (eg West Brom/Mowbray).

Bednar is scoring for fun at West Brom just now....it must be very disheartening for the jambos out there. No evidence to suggest Frail is the answer although the derby win will appease the small minded.
15

BigRon,

24/01/2008 13:11:19
Vlad wanted to play Miko and the other Lithuanians so they could get exposure and be transferred on at a profit. My hunch is Vlad derives "job" satisfaction from trading in players and trying to move them on at a profit. As for Anderton I`d take what he says with a pinch of salt. He likes the sound of his own voice too much for my liking.
16

Magic 7,

24/01/2008 13:11:19
Also, did the 1-1 draw with Celtic not follow eight straight wins? If so, it just defies believe (even believers!!)
17

busbyfh,

24/01/2008 13:22:33
I remember not agreeing with Burley's "play the reserves" at Livi that night. Stupid ploy - About his only mistake.

What have I been banging my gums about for two and a half years - MIKO - His presence in any Hearts team is pure nepotism.
This is why I regard VR's January 1st quote of "I won't interfere" as TOTAL BS.

For the tenth time - Either VR lied that day or Frail is a crawler by picking the tube that is Miko without having to.

We ALL knew that Miko was the Bain of all our managers - Not just himself , but the fact that he was chosen to play by pseudo Dad.These "managers" had no choice which was terribly wrong.
Has Mikoliunas no shame or embarrassment at being chosen for a footbll time while knowing he is not there on ability or merit ? What a brass kneck this man must have. Pathetic. As for his pseudo father - how come he is the only person on this planet that reckons Miko can play football? VR must be a downright DUH.

Until we have a manager in place that does not pick this pet poodle idiot for team OR squad I refuse to believe Romanov.Only if a manager shows Romanov the truth , that his protege is hopeless and does not play him , will I believe that VR has stuck by his word.

Vladimir Romanov - Are you a liar ?
Or is Stevie Frail crawling or devoid of footballing knowledge ?
The answer is one of the above.
18

GrahamL,

24/01/2008 13:24:09
The truth's been a long time coming, and I suspect it'll be a long time yet before we know exactly what's gone on at Tynie. An interesting glimpse, certainly confirms much of our suspicions...
19

scorchio,

West of the Pecos 24/01/2008 13:28:14
I think Frail plays Miko for no other reason, than it carries favour with Mr Romanov.
If Shaggy is selecting Miko because he thinks the lad is a good player, then he's a complete fool. Nope! I think Frail is keeping our major shareholder sweet, and that's reprehensible. Your first loyalty is to the fans Stevie, and you do that by setting out the strongest squad on a match day.
Nothing Anderton is reported as saying above, comes as any shock, we all had an inkling that Vlad wanted his golden boy involved in every game.
VLAD..step back and take Miko with you. Believe me, if you do it won't get any worse.
20

Pedantic_Hibee,

24/01/2008 13:32:07
You're right, Lenny. Where is Rolland ?

Would like to see Victor's opinion on this as well.

This is no way to run a football club and possibly explains why Burley was eventually emptied, contrary to the small-minded insinuating it was Burley who had a *cough* problem.
21

busbyfh,

24/01/2008 13:33:39
I have asked Davy Allen at the magnificent London Hearts to filter the data surrounding Miko the poodle since George Burley left. Figures I will post on here of course.
I am just curious if my obsession with Vlad's/Miko's nepotism is borne out by facts and figures as to the "footballer's" performances. Maybe I have let things taint my rationale towards the bloke , but
maybe the figures will give us the proof of what most suspect. (Cue Scotsman reporters to pick up on this and use the numbers)
I have no doubt this will bore some folk and annoy the Miko fans of which there are the odd few. "(Odd" being the appropriate word) - but a number of Jambos have stated that they would find the answers interesting.
Especially after the above Scotsman article's confirmation of what we already knew.
22

Arnie,

Newington 24/01/2008 13:34:38
Nice to at least hear some of what went on with the bizarre sacking of Burley. I think its fair to say we are now the Lithuanian state circus and it doesn't say a lot for Frail that he is willing to put up with the kind of nonsense that Burley refused to.
23

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 24/01/2008 13:35:12
#1.What Vlad thinks Miko can do is get Hearts onto Lithuanian TV as he is a minor celebrity there, with UKIO emblazened on his chest.

#11. You are right. When there was talk of a boycott weeks ago, Romanov took notice and came out with his new players new manager propaganda and everyone buried heads in sand again believing him. Did the trick, no further talk of boycott, BTW also no manager, no players!

Only getting Romanov discredited with UKIO will achieve anything and a Boycott would get European wide attention, which he can't afford.

I was vocal in being against a boycott at same time last year, as said he needed to be given more time. He has used that time to oversee a 10th place league position. Gretna boycott could still be achieved if nothing happens next week on new player front.

24

busbyfh,

24/01/2008 13:35:44
If memory serves me right - Burley subbed Miko 5 or 6 times. Three matches he subbed him at half time.

What does that say ????????????????????????????
25

Roscoe P Coltrane,

24/01/2008 13:39:15
Nice to have some of my thoughts about that midget egomaniac confirmed (small man syndrome Vlad? Small something anyway, he's definitely trying to compensate for some shortcoming..)

Cheers Mr A for coming clean at last - hope you don't have any "accidents" in the near future though....
26

GrahamL,

24/01/2008 13:42:34
BTW, has everyone seen the Daily Ranger take on this?
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football-news/scottish-football/spl-football/2008/01/24/anderton-axed-for-rejecting-george-burley-drink-slur-86908-20296474/
27

Big Bouncy Betty ,

24/01/2008 13:47:36
Vlad is a muppet. End of story. Reading this makes me hate him even more just brings it back to the surface.

What he had done to Hearts is criminal.
28

busbyfh,

24/01/2008 13:57:31
For all I have lambasted Vlad ......
Read the Daily Record article about Anderton ......
Not all that VR said about Burley was "dodgy" - there was truth in a certain section of it.Quite a few folk know what section I am referring to.
The problems with VR and GB were not only about Miko.
Problems came from BOTH parties.
29

Jingling Geordie,

Sushine on Leith 24/01/2008 13:58:45

George Burley worked wonders at Tynecastle, Hearts were top of the league on merit and playing a brand of football that was a treat to watch.
It is obvious he is a players manager and I would have had him at Easter Road in a minute.
30

Arnie,

Newington 24/01/2008 14:19:11
Just read the Daily Record story that is even worse, my apologies to the Pieman he was never as bad as this lot.
31

Black Five,

edinburgh 24/01/2008 14:22:52
I wish Anderton had came out with this at the time.We all knew pretty much that this was happening but there it is in black and white.Take off Scacel put on Miko and we`ll beat Celtic 5 1 .The man`s a raving loony.Put on Miko and we can`t beat Gretna..say no more.
It was a sorry day Burley left and since then the fans have been short changed by a lunatic.There`s no doubt in my mind that if Burley had stayed it would have been a League and Cup double that year.Only a madman would want to sack the man who was bringing this to Tynecastle for first time since 1960.
Makes you then ask what is his ambitions.You can bet the puppet Frail gets the job.He`ll play the likes of Miko.Untill the likes of Miko is removed we are going nowhere.Players like him are liabilities and you`d be better choosing 10 players and making up your 11 from thr terracing.There would be no diference and with a bit of luck better off.
More seriosly the fans have to show this guy we will not stand for it any longer.A boycot is required till a manager of substance is appointed.Untill then we are only going one way .He`s knackered the club ,it can`t get much worse.It`s in the fans hands to get it sorted.NOW.
32

Black Five,

edinburgh 24/01/2008 14:25:55
Arnie I fully agree with you.Under the pieman we had a proper manager in Craig Levein.He shot the crow the minute this despot was coming in.He knew something Leslie Deans and Co didn`t.He had sense which is more than what can be said of the supporters who blindly cough up their hard earned money to be short changed by a despot.
33

Black Five,

edinburgh 24/01/2008 14:27:47
Big Bouncy Betty..I`d hang the son of a bitch if it was legal.
34

Black Five,

edinburgh 24/01/2008 14:45:49
Scorchio you are correct in your asumption of Frail/Miko.That`s why the clown will get the job.He`s keeping Romanov sweet so he can get the job.Fans have got to stand up to this.Imagine an incompetant with the nickname of Shaggy running our once great club.Don`t make me laugh...it sonds more appropriate to Bertram Mills Circus than a football club.
35

Black Five,

edinburgh 24/01/2008 15:05:20
Just read the Daily Ranger bit...it gets worse.Romanov tried to make out Burley was in need of medical attention because of a drink problem and wanted Anderton to put it in writing so to reduce any compensation.The man has no morals.Let`s empty him now.
36

UrbanFox,

24/01/2008 15:34:17
"it was refusing to play Saulius Mikoliunas and other eastern European imports to suit Vlad's "fantasy football" that was a major part of Burley's downfall."

There we have it. Confirmation of the teachers pet that we always suspected. Fail, why do you still keep picking this loser ?
37

Aliistair,

edinburgh Leith 24/01/2008 15:36:59
LOL
38

bonspeil,

24/01/2008 15:44:33
"When he arrived at Hearts players were unsettled. Paul Hartley was interesting Celtic and Rangers wanted Andy Webster. "

Confirmation that Rangers had tapped up Webster.
39

JC_No7,

24/01/2008 15:50:00
I wonder what Hearts response to this will be. No doubt the PR and Marketing arm will be beavering away in the background. Vlad will have received word of Anderton's attack in the press. It is quite personal, i hope we don't get another monkey rant on the website.

We need actions now, not words.

Best case scenario would be for Vlad to come out and say sorry for messing it up, that he has learnt his lesson and appoint a credible manager as soon as possible. Pigs might fly?

I think Burley getting the Scotland job is going to bring back a lot of bad memories and unless Hearts move soon so that we have something new to 'believe' in, he will lose the support.

Make or break time has arrived...
40

Rolland,

24/01/2008 16:18:56
#7 Lenny, traveling at the moment so this is the first chance I've had to read it today. Will read, digest and comment this evening hopefully (assuming I don't get delayed). Worrying that your looking out for my comments, are you trying to stalk me ? I feel very special having a hobo stalker.

41

Scotland world cup victory,

marooned 24/01/2008 16:20:10
If there still was anybody with serious doubts about what kind of 'character' our fantasy football manager is should get his brain checked - or stick it further up his backside..
42

Rolland,

24/01/2008 16:34:31
Well its hardly ground breaking news, we've all been saying it so it shouldn't come as a shock. All that has changed is that it has been printed by a newspaper.

Not sure what the fallout will be, perhaps another period of monkey's on the website. I suspect no information will be given to the press and no Hearts stories for a while, which will no doubt suit Mr Romanov at the present moment.

The roller coaster takes another twist.
43

LyonHearts,

le teil 24/01/2008 16:35:20
I'm gutted that we lost Burley and gutted that we wasted an opportunity to really stick it to the OF!

My heart sinks quiet frankly when I see what this talented, humble footballing man could have done for my beloved Jam Tarts!

"Mikolunas should have played instead of Skacel then it would have been 5-1" this quote kind of summs up what a bunch of idiots that control our football club are!
44

LyonHearts,

le teil 24/01/2008 16:40:51
I'm gonna charter a jet and fly to Embra to punch either Vlad or his idiot son in the gob - anyone wanna join me?

I wish GB all the luck in the world with the national side, but I'm just gutted that he was forced out and now with Burley back in Scotland it is even clearer for everyone to see what a bunch of third rate idiots who succeeded have done to our team!

Pathetic and sad to see!
45

Scotland world cup victory,

marooned 24/01/2008 16:53:24
# 48.

Right by your side!
46

Black Five,

edinburgh 24/01/2008 17:05:32
48 Lyon Hearts..I`m with you only thing I ask give me first shot at the despot`s ugly mug.
47

Newcastle Jambo,

24/01/2008 17:22:34
All this has been in the public domain for some time. It's why I refuse to go back to Tynecastle until Romanov has either gone or is clearly no longer involved in team affairs in any respect. The man is a total clown, has been an unmitigated disaster and is a stain on the great name and history of our club.
48

brettgallacher,

edinburgh 24/01/2008 17:26:34
why has phil the pil waited over a year to open his gub
49

stanton4,

24/01/2008 17:35:12
#11 I would never have advocated a boycott before but I fear now its the only way to hurt this madman who doesn't give a monkeys about our club

the fans have been short changed by a lunatic.

oops thought I had stumbled across a thread about Petrie

seriously, I would like to say that no self respecting edinburgh person ( football fan ) should buy the daily record. There will certainly be an anti edinburgh spin on the story
50

Almaty Jambo,

24/01/2008 17:57:34
Cant believe some of the comments. Just remember where we would be now if the Piemans plans were implemented.
Second division at best, no ground, no support.
Get real and stop moaning. Vlad will deliver.
51

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24/01/2008 18:12:14
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52

Hysterical Jambow,

24/01/2008 18:29:20
#54

I agree, only problem is (and let's all hope this is the case...) it's taken him 2.5 years to work out he was destroying us with his meddling!

So long as our new manager is given full control over signings, they will still have to agree with the eastern european imports as they are part of the business plan, we will get back to 3rd place and progress from there.

Still believeing, but if this one's not followed throug then myslef, and I'm sure many others, wont tollerate or attempt to justify him any longer. I don't wish to go back to the "sack the board" chants duting the early 90's.
53

victor ian,

24/01/2008 18:37:24
i can't believe nobody, especially the normally eagle eyed hobos, has picked up on the most intriguing part of anderton's quotes.

he would only refer to VR as "the so called owner".

very interesting indeed. anderton would have been party to some sensitive information being the CEO. mind you, he was never made to sign an ND agreement.

an intriguing thing indeed for PA to refer to VM as a "so called owner".
54

bobokat1874,

24/01/2008 18:49:42
I remember in the july before George Burley 3 months he only had 9 first team players and was worried about the pre season trip to Ireland, what he did was amazing i really thought after 20 odd years as a hearts fan I'd get my day in the sun like Aberdeen in the 80's. VR got rid of burley deam over.
2 1/2 years on look where we are? in a living nightmare 3rd bottom no manager, no new players, plans for a new stand that might be the ruin of us. The stories today about GB have reopend old wounds. Why did nothing happend when the Elivs, hartley and gordon spoke out, that was the time for action! VR will never change.
There has been talk of fan action on these boards for a while, what are we to do? The 2 chaps form the supporters federation last week seemed happy with the answers VR gave them.
Its a rollercoaster of a ride being a hearts fan one day, you think we're on the up the next its back to the brink!
55

victor ian,

24/01/2008 18:52:08
VM???? VR.

in ref to #57.
56

Almaty Jambo,

24/01/2008 18:53:51
#56
Fair comment. The "hat kickers" have to understand that the Russian way of doing things is different from the British way. We will have to be patient.
He now accepts that we need a manager with full selection autonomy. What we dont need is some of these idiots resorting to racist remarks because they may have to wait for the league title a little longer.
He is a successful business man and has invested his money into our club. We should be giving him our full support. Keep the faith.
57

bobokat1874,

24/01/2008 19:17:50
60 almaty full support? i find that hard, all Hearts have been to VR for the last 2 1/2 years is real time football manager game!
Hearing how he treated and plotted against George Burley and the Farce of the last 2 years makes full support of VR impossible for me. I'm a hearts fan not a Vlad man and will always be behind my team.

58

victor ian,

24/01/2008 19:23:12
i'm not going to excuse the glaring mistakes and barmy goings-on, some of which PA has spoken about.

what we do have to take into account is that the words said by PA come from an employee who was unceremoniously sacked by the man who he is 'dissing'.

sometimes objectivity leaves the room via a window when it comes to commenting on someone who has wronged you.

59

bobokat1874,

24/01/2008 19:48:27
Victor, true what you say,but what with what we know of VR no reason to doubt what PA has said. The version in the daily record about GB and drink probs is one I remember hearing at the time. it seems like PA stuck to his guns supported burnley and paid with his job as VR likes loyality as we should all know by now.
60

Almaty Jambo,

24/01/2008 19:54:51
#61
Is it just coincidence that PA decides to give his account on the day that George Burley is appointed Scotland manager? Why wait until now? Its about maximum exposure on the back of GB's appointment and the usual Jambo baiting by the Glasgow press.
Romanov is no angel and the beaks at the SFA hate him.
He is a threat to the establishment order and we backed him all the way when he spoke out and said what everyone else had been thinking for years.
Whoever he appoints as manager will be an indication of intent.

61

victor ian,

24/01/2008 19:58:00
#63, yes i think it would be hard to find a hearts fan who agreed with the sacking, or who has anything bad to say about GB. we know VR's previous therefore it's not hard to believe.

re the drinking allegations, i think i'm right in saying that PA was alerted by a 'staff member' to the distinct possibility that GB had been drinking. PA brought the subject up under 'any other business' at a board meeting, then the powers that be seemed to use it as an excuse to do something which they obviously wanted to do.

who the staff member was is open to debate. football side of things or office staff. i suspect it was an assistant coach of the time.

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I am who I am (possibly),

In a quandary 24/01/2008 20:01:18
Victor;
The "so called owner", comment, could be construed as PA's way of an insult, then again, could it be our glorious leader is a mere front man in all of this? Not that it helps our cause much whichever is the reality. Just means there's a bunch of people don't give a monkey's, as opposed to just the one individual.

NJ; "our club". Oh for a *rolling eyes* smilie.
63

Black Five,

edinburgh 24/01/2008 20:03:04
61 62 64 ....Come on lads get real.This guy has run rings round the Federation and you are falling for it too.What`s the bet yes man Frail is the manager.Romanov threw the rattle out the pram when he didn`t get his way with Burley and killed the only decent team we`ve had for years.When Elvis and co stood up to him we should have backed them.Listen to what Brellier thinks of Burley and what he thinks of the other idiots that followed.This Romanov has led you all up the garden path and it`s time now to show him we mean business.
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victor ian,

24/01/2008 20:08:48
#66 you are who you are,

that's what i was alluding to. if he knows of something along those lines, this could be his not-so-subtle code for making it known.

on the other hand, he wasn't made to sign an ND. we know how secretive VR is, surely that wouldn't happen with an employee who was party to certain facts.

#67 BF, the fed and the fans in general are powerless anyway. we are interested passengers inside a runaway train.

65

Lionheart Fodithman,

24/01/2008 20:11:32
For whatever reason VR and GB did not get on,end of story.So 1 way or the other the relationship was going to end at some point.

The major problem with all the GB nonsense is that we all seem to think that had he stayed we would have won the league.Why.
We may have won nothing.
JC at the scumbees,top of the league,pats on the bag for their style of football,look at them now.Why is there no big conspiracy theory about JC leaving.

I thought Phil Anderton was a clever man,either do the book and come clean with proof or chuck yer big spoon in the Clyde.

66

Silence of the Yams,

24/01/2008 20:13:50
Aye, Burley was his own man, unlike Mr Fail and the rest.
67

victor ian,

24/01/2008 20:16:43
GB was on a loser from the off. he binned the teacher's pet for legging it back to lithuania to get married. the teacher's pet went bawling and wailing to the teacher to get the decision overturned, decision was overturned.

the card was marked from that day forward.

68

victor ian,

24/01/2008 20:18:39
thanks for that SOTY. shame our silence hasn't transmitted it's way across to your side of the city.

69

Lionheart Fodithman,

24/01/2008 20:26:23
That is the reality of it Victor.
I criticise Vlad more for not getting us a new manager the same quality a GB as soon as he sacked him.
But again i am in the dark as much as the next man as to why we havent had a manager of any credibility since.
70

Leithjambo,

24/01/2008 21:51:30
George was our JFK, cut down in his prime by a corrupt regime/ individual.
Having Gorgeous as Scotland Manager is kind of like having yer burd, who ye loved and ye still love and who was chased a while ago by your autocratic arsehole of a step-father, (for no good reason with lots of lies on the back of it-'She was shagging aboot behind yer back son, honest'.), return. But then having to share her with your mates!
71

mrhibs07,

stuck in Southampton 24/01/2008 23:08:56
Does this not give you any clues, as to why, THREE other clubs told VR to GTF? And then came along the Yams. You should have stuck with the Pieman. Oh and #75 having a few beers with some Southampton fans. And they assure me he'll ruin our national team. GGTTH
72

THE BPRENTICE,

24/01/2008 23:09:45
The best player should be played, so GB is spot on - his stats are only average, taking 2 clubs he's acheived the best results at (hnfc was only 12 games so not included)

7 years managed Ipswich:
played 409
Won 185
Draw 97
Lost 127
Win % 45.23

2 years managed Ipswich:
played 109
Won 45
Draw 25
Lost 39
Win % 41.28

....roughly I would expect Scotland under GB to wind 4 games out of 10, draw 2 games out of ten and get beaten 4 games out of ten....if he can (and it'll be interesting to see who his assistant will be) slightly improve and we win half of our games, draw 2 out of ten games and only suffer defeat in 3 out of ten - then for scotland that will be very good.
73

THE BPRENTICE,

24/01/2008 23:26:27
RE the article: Some great posts (from the non-hobo participants) - for me, Phil Anderton is someome that held himself with dignity and his comments are valid because of that.

I don't like reading wisdom like - oh he was sacked so anything he says will be tainted, so there's no credibility...similarly I hate it when people, all too easily, attribute blame equally, sometimes its true, but often you have to look at both sides and dispassionately judge that one side is in the broadly wrong.

Its ashame that its all hearsay, our club is so important to us.

The "so called owner" comment is obviously alluding to Vlad being backed and dictated to by higher powered overlords - if its not true - then I'm sure Vlad's shoulders are broad enough to take the unfair allegations......BUT if it is true that Vlad is just a figure head for a cartel of russian warlords then it fits into his strange mgt of hmfc IMHO.

However, we all know and should never forget that the bad karma was at the club before Vlad came along - Chris Robinson will always be remembered for steering us into the soup.

Also, for me, Wallace Mercer will always be remembered for saving the club. I just regret that he wanted to eliminate HFC - that was just wrong - and a lot of us gave our support to hibernian supporters at the time.

So, if Vlad is a game of monopoly with alleged dirrrty cash its clear its going to be done via developing commercial operations and it looks like he's not buying his way into european football. Sadly.

For VR and his alleged backers to allow Vlad to play fantasy football for so long just shows a severe lack of respect.....why couldn't the alleged Russian Overlords hire Arsène Wenger instead of Vlad?...IF our club IS to be used for laundering, we're not even seeing the benefit on the pitch. GODAMIT!!!!!
74

Taras Shevchenko,

24/01/2008 23:40:32
As interesting as this article reads - I reckon its all in the past (I've come to the conclusion that the dirrty cash jibes are not in anybody's interest) and I'm only interested in how our club develops.

I heard recently that Hearts made on offer for Riordan a couple of weeks ago - not sure if it was the asking price or that fact that Riordan is a Hibby that scuppered things. Whether you want Riordan or not at the club, it shows that the club are trying to move int he right direction - and bringing in players like Kingston as well as developing Driver, Ruben and Eggy; plus letting chesny back into the fold sounds like ALL good work in progress to me.

Vlad is a shrewd cookie; he proved that with the Gordon transfer. I think he'll probably make his offers for players at the very last minute for the players haven't managed to be sold off already i.e.to get best price.

I'll be expecting Frail to be insitu for the remainder - getting the right manager is surely more important than getting one quickly, since there's nothing much left to compete for in the season (apart for pride and the diddy cup).
75

mrhibs07,

Stuck in Southampton 24/01/2008 23:58:01
#79
Riordan sign for the yams. I think he'd say no no no. The guy may be fed up. Not hard up.
76

Spencer's Boy,

24/01/2008 23:59:30
Riordan would be an excellent acquisition. Don't see it happening sadly. don't think the Ross McCormack one will materialise either. The danger in leaving your activity until the last day of the window is that the team you are negotiating with with is aware that you are desperate and the price becomes inflated.

I only hope that Celta Vigo come back in for Jose Goncalves. Thought thought of that being a £2M player leaves me very confused about football at the moment.

At leaset Vlad is not letting players leave for vey little, unlike our previous owner
77

mrhibs07,

stuck in Southampton 25/01/2008 00:07:07
#81
All depends on who's signing any new players. I think it's a catch 22 situation your in. If frail does the deed, and they don't perform, he'll get it in the neck. And if Vlad does it a lot of your supporters won't be happy at him getting involved in team selections again. Unless you've got a new manager coming in the next few days?
78

Taras Shevchenko,

25/01/2008 00:48:42
#81 if Vlad is happy to wait until the summer until he signs anyone - then he'll only buy if its a decent deal.

For us, its probably imperative that we freshen our squad and get a couple of more influential players but for Vlad the baw is probably already burst in the season....he'll play it cool.
79

choose a name,

25/01/2008 10:35:25
So Anderton did not sign a confidentiality clause despite media reports at the time that he did. And Burley received no compensation for his dismissal ergo no confidentiality clause for him either then. Or are we to believe that he agreed a severance without compensation but with a confidentiality clause? Hardly likely!

So why didn't either of them 'spill the beans' at the time? Hearts fans have been starved of the whole truth throughout this whole sorry mess.

I generally find that in a disagreement it is not simply a case of black and white but several shades of grey. That is no one is entirely to blame and that there are faults on both sides. I expect that to be the case here too.

That said the proof of the pudding is in the eating and at the moment Hearts fans are getting poor fare. We need a decent manager appointment now and a decent signing or 2 before the window closes. Without that the struggle this season will simply just continue.
80

Canadian Jambo,

25/01/2008 16:01:14
The tip of the iceberg, I'd say.

 

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