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Published Date: 13 December 2006
By BARRY ANDERSON
VALDAS IVANAUSKAS admitted today that some of the Lithuanian players due in Edinburgh for a training camp next month could stay on in Scotland to sign loan deals with Hearts.
The Tynecastle club are preparing to welcome around 30 Lithuanians in January as FBK Kaunas, who are heavily sponsored by Vladimir Romanov's Ukio Bankas, hope to use the facilities at Riccarton to prepare for Commonwealth Cup involvement in Moscow.

Kaunas, managed by Eugenijus Riabovas, won the Lithuanian championship last month and Ivanauskas will have the opportunity to assess their squad during their intended week-long stay. He will then look to secure loan deals for those who impress before they head on to Moscow.

"I know this is a possibility because I have been given some information," said the Hearts head coach. "Yes, it's possible but not 100 per cent. I haven't been talking with Riabovas but I spoke with one of the football directors at Kaunas."

Ivanauskas intends to reinforce his squad during January's transfer window, with Hearts hoping to push for second place in the SPL and possible Champions League qualification for the second consecutive season.

"Kaunas has the tournament in Moscow to prepare for and I know their players. We wait and will see what happens," said Ivanauskas.

The Commonwealth Cup, which will take place between January 20 and 28, is a 16-team tournament held annually in the Russian capital. Participating are the champions of each former Soviet Republic, and previously Kaunas have appeared in the semi-finals and final.

Lithuanian players value the exposure they get in the competition highly as it is often used as a market by high-profile Russian and Ukrainian clubs. However, Kaunas players would regard a move to Tynecastle as more lucrative with Romanov controlling both clubs.

Hearts currently have several Lithuanians on loan from the St Darius & St Girenas Stadium, including top goalscorer Andrius Velicka, Marius Zaliukas, Edgaras Jankauskas, Saulius Mikoliunas, Nerijus Barasa and Devidas Cesnauskis.

Kestutis Ivaskevicius has spent the last four months at Tynecastle, also on loan, but he is understood to have returned to Kaunas after failing to make an impact.

Meanwhile, Hearts have today been linked with a move for Romanian teenager Dumitru Copil. The 16-year-old midfielder, dubbed the new Gheorge Hagi, plays for CS Atletico Arad and is understood to be interesting several British clubs.

Celtic are tracking Copil, and Atletico Arad's coach Alexandru Meszar revealed the Jambos are also interested.

"Hearts and Liverpool have expressed an interest," he said.

"I know Dumitru is delighted that both clubs are so keen to sign him. He is a remarkable magician. He has remarkable technique, especially at speed."

• DUNDEE UNITED manager Craig Levein concedes the chances of Steven Pressley joining the club next month are limited.

He said: "I spoke to Steven and he knows I want to sign him, but he has other offers to consider and I would say we are well down the pecking order."

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  • Last Updated: 13 December 2006 2:08 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Heart of Midlothian FC
 
1

victor ian,

13/12/2006 11:55:08

banderson has raised his game slightly today. he has written articles based on the facts available, along with appropriate quotes. he has resisted the temptation to sensationalise his stories, bland as they are.

well done banderson, keep up the improvement.

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victor ian,

13/12/2006 12:10:19

no problemo sean south. henley-on-thames sounds a right boring place to live. it does now anyway after reading that for a second time.

5

Lenny,

Leith 13/12/2006 12:29:19

I believe that through the jokey manner of #1's post he is making a valid point.

Non Hearts fans cant seem to believe how quickly the jambo's are taking Vlads side over even the club legends. If Vlad has someone looking at the likes of these boards they probably can't belive their luck. Even after they sacked your legend captain many Hearts fans still take Vlads side.

They probably cant believe how stupid a lot of the jambos are. You seem to believe everything he tells you. Maybe that was what the Believe thing was all about.

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Jambo Realist,

13/12/2006 12:33:10

Great more players on loan - excellent news for the long term sustainability of Kanus, sorry.... HMFC

That's presuming that any of them are any good - nice big shop window available at Tynecastle. Players can be sold on - where will be funds go - Kanus? HMFC? Into VR's pockets? Who knows? And apparently - who cares?

So long as we (delete as applicable) finish 2nd/ above Hibs/ win the Cup/ get to the semi-finals/qualify for UEFA/beat Motherwell.

8

Hibs fc ,,

13/12/2006 12:34:40

Its getting worse & worse at the castle , hahahahahaha , but ,, = us hibbys love it , G` day

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Hibs fc ,,

13/12/2006 12:43:02

KAUNUS , shop window , this man vlad has a money earning brain , = any comments , hibby`s love it ,

14

Arfur,

13/12/2006 12:45:16

Great - we lose our skipper, but its ok. Vlads going to bring some more sh*t Lithuanians in.

Just like the countless others they will be lightweight, no first touch, no second touch, or third, no skill, no passion and ..........................they will get a game every week.

Barasa has to be the worst player the club has ever seen.

15

Hibs fc ,,

13/12/2006 12:46:44

30 coming soon , then 60 in february , this gets funnier , should have kept multi storey flats up at oxgangs , hahahaha , any comments , us hibby`s love it ,

16

Johnny Jambo,

13/12/2006 12:49:29

#9 JR I totally agree with you, and I would bet there is a goalkeeper coming as well, you saw it first here.

17

Scotty,

13/12/2006 12:51:39

you guys have players queuing up to leave you - we have them queuing up to join us - that is the difference. Oh, and the facr=t that we have had a terrible season but are still above you in the league. Roll on Boxing Day

18

victor ian,

13/12/2006 12:53:16

#17, you obviously don't "love it" enough to post comments on the hibs story. if you are quick you might just get the first message on it.

19

Jingling Geordie,

Ivanavestcomov...Dictatorville 13/12/2006 13:04:19

Away up in Gorgie at Tynecastle Park,
there's a wee fitba team that can aye
make it's mark...........err, hold on a
minute.
That song's well past it's sell by date,
how about this one instead.

Hey come on there, follow me, I'm the
Pied Piper, trust in me,
I'm the Pied Piper, and I'll show you
where I'ts at .............Tesco.

Great offers at the opening of the new
TyneTesco,.......Headless chickens,
going cheap.

20

BorderGuy,

13/12/2006 13:04:43

#19 - I want to play for an SPL team, but that doesn't make me a good player.

21

Hibs fc ,,

13/12/2006 13:12:48

MR SCOTT , GROW UP , DECLINE , EXTINCT , GOING , GOING , NEARLY GONE , US HIBBY`S LOVE IT ,

22

Johnny Jambo,

13/12/2006 13:14:03

#23 well said border guy, if the players were Shevchenko, Ronaldo or the like it would be a different story. As I said in another post, when did a Lithu team ever win anything.

23

Ian,

13/12/2006 13:19:04

Anyone reading past half way of #1 needs their pea brains looked at. The writer is a guaranteed saddo with far too much time on her hands.

24

Mozzer,

13/12/2006 13:20:02

Johnny"jambo" at it again.

Nowhere in the article is there any mention of a goalkeeper being among those arriving...but, with the "gift", Johnny"jambo" can tell us all "exclusively" that our goalkeeper for the remainder of the season will be Lithuanian.

Can I ask why that would be a problem?

Thanks to Romanovs money we will be able to command a huge fee for Gordon who, as we all know, was always going to leave us for bigger and, possibly, better things. Without Romanovs cash he would have gone by now and we would have struggled to command any kind of compensation.

I remember people telling me that we would never replace Henry Smith...then Rousset...then Niemi...each time we have managed to source a new 'keeper capable of performing to a good standard. Why shouldn't a Lithuanian goalkeeper be able to do what a Finn and a Frenchy have done for us?

Is it only the possibility of the new goalkeeper (and we don't know there is one yet) being Lithuanian that is problematic for you Johnny"jambo"? Or is it the fear he won't be as good as Gordon...I'll tell you right now he will NOT be as good as Gordon wherever he comes from that's because Gordon is one of the best in Britain if not Europe.

The idea of 30 Lithuanian players arriving doesn't phase me one little bit...the first "rush" of Lithuanians who came over when Robertson was still in charge included Miko, Chesney and Kizys...Kizys was a decent player, Miko has ability but lacks consistency and Chesney has been a good player to have in the squad. If we take another 3 players who can contribute in a similair way I will be pleased...although I would like to see others leave before any more arrive.

I notice too Johnny"jambo" that you have failed to keep your promise of keeping schtum if I gave you one positive from the Romanovs.

For the benefit of those others who might have missed it Johnny"ja

25

Exiled Bhoy in Fife,

Opposite the Ferry 13/12/2006 13:20:15

More players coming over for Lithuianian Laundry FC...jings Vlad the Mad will need a lot of flats to put them all up in.

Hmmm....where could Vlad the Mad get some flats that he could rent out cheaply to these individuals?? I know....why not build on the land he owns??

Flats, flats, Rentable Flats....

26

1 team 1 hibs- 1 life,

nice 1 13/12/2006 13:27:03

hibs have a soild financial ground i hope wish we would pay a bit more in wages to atract and keep the better players but i would never want to spend inxecess of 5mill or to put us deeper in to debt just to win the scottish cup and that is whaT mad the vlad has done-yes you are above hibs in the leauge,but gorden is getting paid 16g a week that could pay around 8-10 players at easter road so to be only 2points above us at this point of the season i would be very happy and yes you may well end up getting more points than us come the end of the season,but we will keep playing good football and yes if we sell brown and thompson it will be good business our youth policy works,worst sinario mad /vlad loses the plot furter he may just call in the debt and put the up for sale sighn over tcastle?

27

BorderGuy,

13/12/2006 13:29:13

#27 - The 30 Lithuanians coming over are FC Kaunas on a training trip. Are you suggesting that they don't 'do' goalkeepers in the Lithuanian league??

Also - The chances of finding a goalkeeper as good as Gordon are almost nil. And there isn't a number for the chances of finding a keeper as good as Gordon who will be willing to join the circus at the moment.

28

1 team 1 hibs- 1 life,

can any tell me?? 13/12/2006 13:30:50

why another lot of loan players???????is this because hearts do not own them so they can not b called assets
and IF they are sold on then hearts do not geat any cash???please inform me if any one no"s why

29

Jambo Realist,

13/12/2006 13:33:26

#27 - Mozzer so you are quite happy that VR is willing to let our proven and best players and coaches leave at the expense of more Lithuanians?

Perhaps JJ's point is that by merely restricting us to players from Kanus (not necessarly all Liths) we surely are restricting our chances of signing a new Rousset, Nemi or Gordon.

Mozzer - since you seem to have all the answers how about addressing my post number 9?

30

Dr Anderton,

13/12/2006 13:34:18

Ah Mozzer, the King of Hearts. What a blessing it is to have you still in our internet lifes.

As it happens, Johnny Jambo is correct. If you had sold Tynie and clearer the debt, you'd be well on your way to recovery by now. You'd probably be finishing top six and the board would be looking at sites to build a new stadium on.

As it is you've got all that to look forward to, including the pain which goes with it (multiplyed by a factor of 10).

31

Johnny Jambo,

13/12/2006 13:37:33

#27 Mozzer you really are a pain, where did I say there would be a Goalkeeper, what I said was, "I would bet there is a goalkeeper coming" I said nothing about the rest of the season.
Regards the CALA Sale be accurate there as well will you.
I also never said I would keep schtum as you put it I said I would hold my peace and I can assure you I am.
Lithu's are not problematic for me all I am saying is that they should be good enough and when was the last time a Lithu team won anything.

If you are going to give me a hard time, fine I can take it, but be accurate when you do please.
You seem to be a Romanov supporter and that is your prerogative I just don't agree with him or his ways and the reasons are well documented.

32

victor ian,

13/12/2006 13:39:01

you can't argue with #30 borderguy's point about gordon. i thought niemi would have been hard to replace but gordon is way better, and harder to replace. the place is indeed a circus so he will want to leave anyway. this can only mean that hearts/VR will want to realise their/his asset at some point.

33

10-2,

13/12/2006 13:42:30

"For the benefit of those others who might have missed it Johnny"jambo" believes that the cancel of the sale of Tynecastle was NOT a positive thing. Amazing eh?"

You must know where he's coming from though Mozzer?

We had a great chance to have a massive stadium and we blew it. Hell we may even have been able to sit anywhere you like as there would have been at least 60,000 extra seats. Christ, the kids could play hide and seek in the stadium if the game was boring. Atmosphere is hyped anyway. You can't beat the sound of emptiness, especially if the team need our backing.

I despair at some of the negativity, I really do. I have to admit to just skipping past Johnny Jambo's 'contributions' on here.

34

Jambo Realist,

13/12/2006 13:43:08

#31 - because VR has no interest in the development of HMFC in the long or short term. But Hearts do provide a gateway and a bigger shop window than Kanus.

VR stands to gain personal fortune from the sale of players and potentially if loaned from Kanus then Kanus do too.

But if he's just after money why not just sell Tynecastle then? Because in using HMFC as a feeder club for Kanus players will provide a longer term and potentially more lucrative source of income.

Anyone recall VR's claims about his scouting network in last years BBC documentary? It seems to me that he seeks to make substantially more money out of the buying and selling of players, than the operation of a football club - who was it said that agents are ruining the game again.....?

35

Jambo Realist,

13/12/2006 13:49:06

#36 10-2 - NEGATIVITY is it?

Well please share your vision of the brave new world offered to us by Romanov then will you?

Give me a bloody reason not to be negative - because one thing is for certain - Romanov is not giving me any reason to be happy.

36

Johnny Jambo,

13/12/2006 13:50:44

another one wants to have a go at me for what he calls my negativiy.
Sorry if that is what it seems like, but the fact is Vlad is ruining our club.

Regarding the sale of Tynecastle, well other clubs have sold their grounds and come out the other side as better clubs with lesser debt, I do not agree with us playing at Murrayfield long term, but I am sure with the right deal we could sell the ground and get a new stadium. I support Heart of Midlothian Football Club and will do so regardless of where they play, so get your heads out of the sand all you VR Fans, Tynecastle (and I have been going for over 50 years) is not what is important here it is the future of the club.

37

JJ52,

13/12/2006 13:56:00

So when players come on trial at Rangers and Celtic they MAY get a place in the team. WHAT'S the difference? Media propaganda. If these players prove to be good, then why not sign some or all of them for that matter? Just because the OF haven't paid millions for them, does that make them bad players? The SFA changed the rules to help the OF when they started to feel the pinch ,Hearts have taken full advantage of the new rules, so tough get over it.

38

scorchio,

West of the Peco's 13/12/2006 13:57:06

Dr Anderton, your medication sir is far too strong, get back to the shrink and tell him he's got you on adult strength barbiturates.
If we had sold Tynecastle, we would be playing to crowds of about eight thousand at Murtrayfield every second week, thus incurring debt.
We would have woin nothing, qualified for nothing, and lost Pressley, Hartley, Gordon and anyone else with the club whom we got an offer for.(decent or derisory)
We would not have seen the likes of Takis, Jankauskas, Skacel, Aguiar, Brellier, or Pinnilla, and that's not including some of the much maligned Lithuanians.
Get away back to Leith and apply to get on the committe thats organising the farewell dinner for half your first team.

39

Mozzer,

13/12/2006 13:58:38

Dr Anderton must be Phil Andertons Eyebrows...the poor spelling, the ignorance of the rules of grammar and the unhealthy interest in a side other than his own.

You seem certain that Tynecastle is going to be sold, that our club faces financial oblivion and that we are all doomed...why not get together with Johnny"jambo"?

As for Johnny"jambo"..."when was the last time a Lithu team won anything". Didn't Kaunas win the Lithuanian league? Or do you mean when was the last time a Lithuanian team won anything outside of their domestic league? Well, given their status as part of the old USSR I would imagine it will have been a lot more recently than the last time a Scottish side won anything.

Do we only value players from nations that win things?

So we only want French, German, Brazillian, Italian and English players then. Maybe a couple of Dutch guys...but no Africans or Asians and certainly nobody from any other nation where they haven't won anything.

You are beyond ridiculous.

I am being accurate with regards the CALA deal you stated on an earlier article that you didn't feel it to be a positive thing that we have stayed at Tynecastle.

My feelings are that we could demolish Tynecastle tomorrow and build flats on it...if we have a new home to go to and not the prospect of an indefinite stay at Murrayfield.

Keep up.

40

victor ian,

13/12/2006 14:02:48

can i just say that people like johnny jambo, jambo realist & others are entitled to express their misgivings about romanov and his barmy plan. they have the best interests of the club in mind. let's not go down the romanov road of stifling honest debate here.

41

scorchio,

West of the Peco's 13/12/2006 14:05:09

Jambo realist and Johnny Jambo, it's not Vlad that's ruining the club, sure he's made a couple of bloomers, but it's guys like you, who are bsolutely downing everything about the club and owner, and who are just feeding those who care not a jot for HMFC.
Ever heard of battening down the hatches? Closing Ranks? You two have done more to cheer up Hibs fans than the last win they had against us.
Try and break the habits of a life time and look for positives and support the club at this time.
Romanov may not be perfect but if he has to drag us kicking and screaming to success, then I am willing to cut him some slack.

42

Salvatori,

Embra 13/12/2006 14:10:26

Although I've been adopting a policy of not blaming the press for VR's doings, I like the way that just last week this story was wrapped up as "Shock! Horror! 30 Lithuanians coming to Riccarton on trial" to "Fc Kuanas using HMFC's facilities (some may get a looked at if they're half decent)"...

Could this just not have been said in the first place and saved us having to put up with gloating opposition fans giving it " ha ha, you're getting 30 Lithuanians on trial" guff?

43

Johnny Jambo,

13/12/2006 14:13:45

Mozzer you are quick to be very accurate on the Question of Lithu's winning anything, but in everything else you have just put your own slant on it just so as you can have a go, and maybe that is because deep down you realise that I am right.

My main point still stand it's Hearts future that is important not where they play.
I have never said I think Tynecastle is going to be sold by Romanov all I have ever said is that I have concerns with the way he is running the club and that he has turned Hearts into a Circus and made us a laughing stock.

44

PabloJambo,

13/12/2006 14:17:16

#29 (some sort of hibby James Joyce) - Try learning about punctuation first then come back and argue the finer points of football. After all, who's going to take an illiterate txt spkr seriously?

p.s. note the use of full stops, commas and proper words

45

Johnny Jambo,

13/12/2006 14:19:34

BTW scorchio #44 - I ask again what is the success that he has brought us so far, and don't go down the route of the Cup and second place because we have won the cup before he came along and he sacked the man that could have won us the league last year as it was downhill all the way from the Burley sacking. He also said we would be Champions of Europe in 5 years and our first attempt this season has already added to those who are laughing at us.
What sensible businessman sacks the people who are doing the best for their business and in this case had given the club their best ever start to a season, there is no guarantees that Burley would have won us the league but I am sure we would not have been 21 points behind the eventual winners.

46

Naeboz,

Ward 11 13/12/2006 14:35:02

Mozzer - good to see some balace rather than the usuall predictable ant- Vlad guff.

47

H'b Borat,

Kazakhstan 13/12/2006 14:43:40

My name is Borat. Like English Barry, but people call me Steve. I have football player from Kazakhstan I want to sell. Who do I speak to to advertise on Heart of Midlothian auction site?

48

Roscoe P Coltrane,

Embra 13/12/2006 14:49:26

I don't think anybody can really say whether VR is going to have a positive or a negative effect over the long term unless and until we see the accounts and bank statements.

Unfortunately it looks as if he's asset stripping the club - sell off the assets (player registrations), bring in short term leases (loan players from FBK) which he can sell off (with proceeds going to the club holding the registration - FBK) and wages paid to FBK as well. All the while what's paying for this? The debt that is currently held by another of his companies. On which he will receive interest.

Call me a cynic if you will, but his behaviour thus far has done nothing to persuade me otherwise. If only they would come out and let people know what's going on, and actually tell the truth rather than "spinning" then there wouldn't be any suspicion.

49

Lenny,

Leith 13/12/2006 15:11:27

This is getting beyond funny. I feel for the Hearts fans that are worried about the club at the moment. They express their concern and are attacked by supposedly fellow fans.

Wee question to Mozzer and the rest of the believers. What is the debt sitting at just now? Aw, you dont know cause your saviour wont tell you! Incredible that you dont see this as a concern!

Vlad reminds me a bit of Robert Maxwell when he went on his Ego trip of owning Clubs. He was never after success for the clubs either, only personal gain. Both Oxford and Derby were left in a complete state when he was finished with them.

50

Jambo Realist,

13/12/2006 15:31:57

#44 Scorchio - First things first - I am not looking to cheer up Hibs fans, I'm not in slightest bit concerned about Hibs (apart from when we play them) I focus on HMFC.

I am more than happy to baten down the hatches and close ranks - I am quite prepared to stand up and defend I what I see as the best interests of the club and the future of the club.

It so happens that the biggest threat to the club is currently coming from inside - so forgive me for doing exactly what you say I should be doing.

Please provide me with the details of this 'plan for success' that your post #44 alludes to.

51

Johnny Jambo,

13/12/2006 15:33:02

Go on Sir Brian take the plunge

52

Helga , future is Green .,

13/12/2006 15:41:51

Why are all [ not some ] but all hearts fans tea-pots , the real world dont give a s,,t about hearts , you fell hook line & sinker , for this vlad , SO DO US A FAVOUR ...... shut-it ... xxx

53

hubby1,

the boredroom 13/12/2006 15:42:53

Have i missed summit or have all you guys and the fantastic on the ball local scribes missed the suberb quote from the one and only Roman on the official HMFC web site................"The cure might be painful.....but at least we have the diagnosis.Enjoy the game...Roman Romanov"

Now that is news

54

victor ian,

13/12/2006 15:47:14

good grief, hes back.

sir brian, i didn't do anything to have your comments removed. why would you assume it was me? you have confirmed your status as a total trumpet.

why, oh why would you post that same message again? fo trumpet.

55

Kenny M,

Embra 13/12/2006 15:49:43

Good grief! #57 a Jambo with some sense. And typing and punctuation skills too. Congratulations to you sir!

I too am not interested in HMFC in the same way as you're not interested in Hibs.

Though my one, repeated, concern is when will UEFA do something about VR having an interest in two clubs? It's against UEFA rules, quite rightly.

Imagine if Roman Abramovic bought into Hibs - for example. These boards would glow white hot with indignation. Personally I quite like imagining it and imagining also what Edinburghs Only Big Team would have to say about that!

56

Johnny Jambo,

13/12/2006 15:52:51

#62 vi, he brings that air of insanity to the column, let him have his glory.

57

Choose a nameDr_Joseph_Phd,

Tynescos 13/12/2006 15:55:00

Amazing to see so many fans turn a blind eye as the Tynecastle ships sinks.

Romanov came in with dream of showcasing the best Lithuanian talent to a cash-rich Premiership. The torrid times these players have endured coupled with a failure to qualify for the first round proper in two Euro competitions spells disaster for HMFC, a once proud club.

Presley's departure and the unsettling of Hartley & Gordon has opened the doors to a major January sale culminating in full on asset stripping, Tyncastle included, at the season's close.

Worrying times for Scottish football.

58

Johnny Jambo,

13/12/2006 15:55:48

Kenny M #66, I think you will find that the rule about having an interest in two clubs is only if they are in the same league.

VR in fact has an interest in at least 3, he has just imposed Malofeev as Coach of one in Bosnia I think it is.

59

THe jet,

Italy 13/12/2006 16:03:13

THe fact that thirty players are coming across to train before they take part in a tournament makes sense as they are virtually part and parcel of the Vlad empire.
As anyone knows for one player that makes it in professional sport there are tens of thousands of others that don't,so trying to guage or see as many as possible makes sense also being able to see them here all at once good business sense saving both time and money.
It would be fantastic to have an all Scottish Hearts team but it will not happen, not to us nor any other team for that fact until SFA,UEFA or any of the ruling bodies decide to make the laws on the amount of so-called "foreign" players stricter.
For me we have found some players from Lituanian that are showing or will show their worth in the long run (Miko,Chesney&Velicka).I have seen them both at Tynecastle this year and also in the qualifier against Italy were they drew and both Miko and Ches made world cup medal winners look very ordinary indeed.(both were fantastic that night and had italian commentators raving about them)

60

Gavin2,

edinburgh 13/12/2006 16:05:09

scorchio, mozzer,
For most hearts fans, it's gone way beyond individual players or managers or our rivalry with hibs. I fear, and there is a good many other people posting here who do as well, for the future of our football club.

It is easy to see the short term financial benefit to romanov in all his dealings- loan players, promoting lithuanians, increasing the debts with the bank he owns.

The only hope I cling to is that it is not in romanov's long term interests of expanding his base in western europe for him to destroy a football institution. I cling to the hope that the potential financial windfalls of a ukio bankas empire are such that he doesn't want to risk them.

Yet I have a horrible feeling that the financial benefits are such that the fate of one football team doesn't really matter in that big scheme of things. HMFC are already being reduced to one small arm of a Lithuanian business empire. When you're just one small aspect of a business empire, you are more expendable.

61

julien brellier,

13/12/2006 16:05:37

http://www.hibs.net/message/showthread.php?t=61974
at least now we know why the hobo's are so bitter.lol

62

Dr Anderton,

13/12/2006 16:06:55

#41 Scorchio.

Sure, things would have been bad. You'd have lost Pressley, Gordon and the rest (although probably not for derisory sums as having no debt would have strenghtened your position). However, is that not better than the current mess? Is watching 'Janny' huffing and puffing his way through dull SPL matches really worth sending the club deep into the doo doo with his silly wages?

I guess we'll find out in a few years eh?

63

WilliamD,

Leith 13/12/2006 16:12:10

What will happen to Edinburgh's only Pink Club.?

Answers on a postcard to-

Joke of the Year 2006 - Competition
7-0, Whos gay? street
Flats Flats Flats
And more Flats
HIB1 YLT

64

sparkie1955,

13/12/2006 16:27:48

supporting the jambos must be like shopping at asda,buy one get 30 free,and a manager , trainers,uncle tom cobbly and all,this is the funniest thing ever,keep it up .

65

Xacobeo Hearts,

Galicia & just about to start work again so... 13/12/2006 16:33:38

Oh-oh! Here we go again.

Despairing as usual but as I've no time to reply today I'll refer anybody to who might be vaguely interested to my post yesterday on "Battered, bundled out..."

Just as relevant today. Only wish we could stop bickering amongst ourselves.

Oh and I'd appreciate if you could turn a blind eye to all the typos.

Ho-hum I hear work calling.

Enjoy your name calling etc while I'm gone

66

Weel Kent Jambo,

Not in Kent anymore 13/12/2006 17:15:24

Re comments about 'what have Lithuanians won' and the suchlike - contributors could do worse than to look at the Euro 2008 qualifier results to date. Here they are:

2/9 Italy 1 Lithu 1
6/9 Lithu 1 Scotland 2
7/10 Faroes 0 Lithu 1

That's not a bad set of results and means they have 4 points from 3 games and that's one game less than Italy on 7 points. Their national squad seem not to be such a bunch of numpties so why shouldn't we seek to cream off the best? Equally we should not take any more on (a) if they're not as good as players we already have or (b) there are better players of other nationalities available to us.

67

Mick O' Luncacy,

13/12/2006 17:18:17

Sir Brian, I am disappointed you wouldnt talk to me earlier.
Aren't we all glad of your wit and wisdom, how you can tell what people genuinely feel through these columns I dont know, but you have so much insight I feel I should be in awe of you, for you indeed are the Oracle.
You have managed to forsee what no one else can.
You are undoubtedly a man we should listen to.

By the way I like your name to, particularly the QC part, I know what it stands for and it aint Queens Counsel!

68

king franco,

13/12/2006 17:21:44

big teams win cups!

69

Helga , future is Green .,

13/12/2006 17:50:34

Why are hearts supporters all tea-pots , please please tell me

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semac,

corstorphine 13/12/2006 18:19:10

Hartley to be disciplined Thursday. Gordon next week.

71

sparkie1955,

13/12/2006 18:39:39

here are some more of vlads major signings,TINKIE WINKIE,DIPSIE.LALA.AND POE,as you can see he promised big signings.

72

Bobbi,

Gorgie farm 13/12/2006 19:03:33

Hearts fans must be in deep lamentation just now at the prospect of losing their best players. Having lost Pressley, I fear that they may well lose more players in January as the transfer window looms.

Hibs on the other hand are going places and have shown that they have ambition. Such ambition is shown by signing John Collins and TC, a new academy on the way, holding on to our most valued players and playing flair football.

Many jumbo’s will try to make themselves feel better by commenting on the proverbial 105 year Scottish cup drought, etc, etc, however, that is becoming a bit lame now and does nothing but show their own envy and insecurities of Hibs flair and their own teams poor form.
Anyway, Hibs have a CIS Cup Final win to look forward to and Hibs will parade the Cup along Princes St, down Leith Walk and at ER. While Hearts fans watch the celebrations in unadulterated envy.

Glory Glory to the Hibees...

73

Helga , future is Green .,

13/12/2006 19:06:24

Hail, HAIL gordon.s agent in talks at old trafford , this gets better , boxing day ,,,,,, SCOTS V LITHS ,

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Helga , future is Green .,

13/12/2006 19:07:51

LOVE IT , LOVE IT , things can only get better , wow , come on hi-bees ,

75

STEV,

13/12/2006 19:12:20

romanov out

76

STEV,

13/12/2006 19:14:42

to all my fellow jambos lets get this mad f***ing mad b*****d out while we still have a club to support,starting on saturday romanov out now!!!!

77

Bobbi,

Gorgie farm 13/12/2006 19:35:13

Hibernian FC are the team going places in Edinburgh right now. Hibs have a team of players full of flair and finesse and I think that on the 26th Dec 2006, Hibs will beat the jambos on their own patch. They may well win by the odd four or five goals.

Tick tock tick tock....

Believe

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Horse,

Livingston 13/12/2006 19:49:47

Johnny Jambo is 100% correct - It may be a bitter pill to swallow but I think it would've been better if Hearts had sold their ground, cleared their debt and concentrated on living within their means with a long term view of building a new stadium. Another possible option would've been to recognise how bad the situation was under Pieman and get a group together to buy Hearts from Pieman, cut costs substantially (as Hibs have done), live within your means and slowly but surely clear the debt and remain at tynecastle with a sensible business plan, sure the second option would've meant a weaker squad, no glory hunters and probably no cup or 2nd place but a least you'd still have a team to call your own. Hibs have cut costs accordingly and we havn't suffered that badly - Hearts could've done the same as their debt wasn't that much bigger than Hibs' when the Pieman sold up. Instead Jambos took the option of Romanov without really thinking about it, why? because it sounded like the easy option for success.
Unfortunately for Jambos there are less options now to save Hearts- the debt would appear to now be at a level where it would be unmanagable without selling tynie and even by selling tynie and moving to Murrayfield there would probably still be outstanding debt and that would hamper any moves to build a new stadium. So Johnny is correct, as bad as it would be for Jambos to see tynie demolished, it would've been a better long term option than letting Mad Vlad in the door.

J.J & J.R are doing their best to mobilise Jambos into saving their club but don't seem to be getting much support. I hope they can do something but their options are limited:

1. They could buy out Romanov but it seems like that would take a huge investment just to clear the debt and buy shares.
2 A boycott could be organised but the effect would be minimal on Romanov as most Jambos have pre-paid via season tickets. It would also have a negative effect on the team.

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Weel Kent Jambo,

Not in Kent anymore 13/12/2006 19:55:21

Bobbi - hope Hibs do win the CIS cup. It's always better when there are two Embra teams doing well. All adds to the fun of competition and rivalry in our city and, let's be honest, you'd miss having the Hearts fans to wind up if all did go tits up for us, wouldn't you? Anything that prevents the OF from winning everything can't be all bad.

But please, would you first give yourself a reality check by looking at the league table above.......and don't forget the Hibees have a reputation as serial bottlers.

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Weel Kent Jambo,

Not in Kent anymore 13/12/2006 19:58:21

#93 Horse - think you'll find many Hearts fans were also active against the Mercer plans, for exactly the reasons in my post #94

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Jeremy Simon,

West Lothian 13/12/2006 20:00:34

Lets not knock the 30 lithuanians before we've seen them play, theres nothing wrong with having them over to train and then hand pick any who have potential. If they are crap we can always send them back. It's not a bad thing to have a feeder team, all big clubs have feeder teams and we have great training facilities that are under used. I've said before I don't care if we get players from mars, as long as we're winning!

I doubt the lithuanians will be the only transfers who come during the transfer window, in fact I expect many changes and I believe they'll be for the better. We should surely be strong enough finish second and retain the cup this year and then next season step up to the next level.

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scorchio,

13/12/2006 20:06:44

#57 I find it absolutely incredible that you believe Romanov is in this club to fail. Catch a grip of yourself.
His methods are sometimes bizzare, but I can not for one minute believe that Vlad is solely resposible for any of the so called dissasters at the club. I do not think Burley was squeeky clean, I do not believe for one minute that Elvis did not play a significant part in his own downfall.
The two big mistakes Romanov made--in my opinion--were to employ Rix and give Malofeef temporary control of the team. John McGlynn should have stood in for those few weeks, but hey, no one gets it right all the time.
You just go merrily on your way by denegrating the club and adding fuel to the creeps that want to revel in it all.
Maybe see your scarf and season ticket gettting chucked onto the park on Saturday eh!

83

Bobbi,

Gorgie farm 13/12/2006 20:11:46

All Hearts fans should appreciate what Hearts achieved last season. Indeed, they achieved a great second place, a chance of a CL place and a Scottish Cup. Talk about not being grateful. If I was a loyal Hearts fan reading some of the nonsense written by these traitor like part timers, I would be furious. Some fans are an unequivocal disgrace. Indeed, a minority of Hearts fans don't know how good they had it. Try supporting some second division side and you will feel more thankful.

This minority of Hearts fans should stand by their team every step of the way. I feel sorry for the loyal Hearts fans who have to listen to the incessant moaning from Hearts fans who probably never went to the games until recently. These fans are glory hunters who only go to games when their team has a chance to win something. They are nothing like the loyal fans who will always be there to support their team.

I have never welcomed the glory hunting fans as they are often the first ones to criticise their team if they have a poor run of form. Indeed, they are the first types of fans who would throw their scarf on the pitch in defiance of a poor result.

Hearts don't need those types of fans, these types of fans have no place at Hearts or in the SPL. Good luck to the Jambo's this season and may the loyal Hearts fans be entertained.

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Horse,

Livingston 13/12/2006 20:26:20

Well Kent Jambo,

I know many Jambos gave their supports to the H.O.H campaign (many took great pleasure out of laughing at our situation aswell though) and I'm sure many Hibby's would back a similar campaign to save Hearts - At the moment it's difficult to have sympathy for some Jambos because they were so blinded and arrogant about Vlad's promises of Granduer and let everyone know about it so support for a Hearts campaign may be minimal from fans of other teams. I can see the bigger picture and I agree with you that football in Edinburgh is unique because of our rivalry and if we lost either of our teams things would never be the same again. In my mind the Edinburgh derby is the most passionate in the UK at least, the Bigots/Gloryhunting derby doesn't even come close. For this reason I hope Hearts' fans realise how severe the situation is and do something about it and hopefully we'll be able to wind each other up for years to come and preserve the greatest (and second oldest) derby in the world.

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Helga , future is Green .,

13/12/2006 20:26:34

This gets BETTER N BETTER N BETTER , WE ARE HIBS FC ,

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Granton Gadgie,

The Shire 13/12/2006 20:31:40

OOOH.
The last few days must've been awful for the poor wee hobos. Hunched over the screens of their wee amstrads, reading all the articles and dying to type out their hatred of Hearts.
But no, they couldn't, 'cos they were all in hiding after getting butt-fecked by the bears (makes a change from a Danish sailor down by Oshun Terminal).

Still, nice to have you back closet Jambos. go on, let it out, let go.
Like the poor and the mentally infirm, the Hobos will always be with us. Bless 'em.

87

Arfur,

13/12/2006 20:40:48

#96 Jeremy - Get your head out the clouds. You have constantly given Vlad the mad your backing and everytime something else goes t*ts up you either support it i.e Preesley was past his best anyway and deserved what he got or you try and say look things might come good of this.

'Lets not knock the 30 lithuanians before we've seen them play, theres nothing wrong with having them over to train and then hand pick any who have potential. If they are crap we can always send them back' - one problem with that...........we have tons of them here already and they are all crap. Have we sent them home? No we have played them every game.

Our captains gone, our goalie will go, the best defencive midfielder in Scotland will soon go, our best player is to attend a disciplinary hearing, Webster (best young defender in Scotland) got fed up and left (and before people start going on about he wanted to leave, he left cos he was dropped for wanting more from his contract), our goal scoring king of last season got fed up of the manager changes and left, we have had countless sh*t lithuanians replace them all, the debt has not gone just been moved (and has supposedly escalated), we have countless managers, countless lithuanian 'sporting directors' who dont know there ar*e from their elbow, we have a mad man in charge that tells the fans one thing (which your sort lap up) then bogs off back home and does the complete opposite.

If you think that is any way to run a football club then you are thicker than I first thought.

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John Robertson,

wales 13/12/2006 20:41:59

I am sick to the back teeth reading posts from hearts fans backing mad vlad.Are you lot f###ing blind,hartley will follow elvis to celtic and gordon will be off in the new year,the jambos will have a whole team of lithuanians.Whats the answer? mass protest outside tynie when the jambos get beat of hibs.

89

Helga , future is Green .,

13/12/2006 20:47:52

yes mr robertson spot on wee fatty ,

90

Helga , future is Green .,

13/12/2006 20:49:00

Granton = pits of edinburgh

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Helga , future is Green .,

13/12/2006 20:50:19

Wonder how many season tickets get sold at tynie , hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

92

Helga , future is Green .,

13/12/2006 20:51:51

From bad to worse , but , tell you this , us hibs fans love it , ma right , mon am ah right , hail hail , mon albert kidd ,

93

johnboy,

13/12/2006 22:18:02

horse

the man has been here less than 2 seasons, the promises he made so far have been pretty successfull.
again i must state that VR is in fact still on the road too delivering other promises, he wants too see through the 3-5 years plan.
that leaves a few seasons too go yet in my calculations.
come back when it is 3 years at least, im sure all of us will then know factualy what part of his promises fail to shine.
he has in fact ripped us away from the old days and is bringing us into the new ways of running a football team. the loaning of players too reduce the weight of transfer fees for a club who probably cant afford too pay for a player every time they strike a deal.
he knows the financial problems we have and has structured a easy payment plan, i think some fans think this means he isnt doing anything but using hearts for his business.
some of the things going on may need to happen for his plans too work.
i dont agree with everything but i believe its nessessary too remove certain obstacles to oclear way for the new, i am not blinkered i am patient thats the difference.
i enjoy a lot of posts on here some are pretty funny others are pretty way out of the mark or just plain hopeless attempts from folk who read something and see it as gospel.
i read what is on the hearts site if i want hearts exclusives, coming into the EEN site is at most an eperience to read somE of the rubbish commented here.
i must remind all of you that we have not been the greatest team in scotland, we do have the proud history and are known too have a quality stadium for atmosphear and have the potential too win sikverware.
but we aint ever been stable, folk wanted chris robinson out because hearts were in danger of going out of business , we were stagnating and in need of new life.

procratination was our problem, so now when we do things quicker and more efficiently everyone complains looks for other reasons than whats

94

johnboy,

13/12/2006 22:29:41

well apart fae a 260 old hibs fan who lives in the nepal and has survived on mountains of goji berries since birth.

he knows it all the master told him

95

Jeremy Simon,

West Lothian 13/12/2006 23:00:19

Good post again Johnboy! There does seem to be less crap from the non-believers these days and more support for Mr. Romanov's 3-5 year plan. As you say we're only 2 years into that plan and look at the progress that has been made. Things were getting really bad under Robinson and no-one from scotland had a credible plan to turn Hearts around. Mr. Romanov came and saved Hearts and instantly made us title challengers, there have been a few blips on the way but I beleive in Mr. Romanovs long term aim of a 40,000 seat stadium, compete in the chamions league (and hopefully win it one day) and dominate the domestic competitions. Mr. Romanov will provide the initial finance through UBIG and when the three objective are achieved, Hearts will be highly profitable. As you also correctly point out, Mr. Romanov has brought a new presidintial style of running football clubs to Scotland and many people can't accept that - ALL the big European teams are run this way. The rest of Scottish football is running scared and because of this all media stories about Mr. Romanov are negative, it's good to see that most Jambos still believe in Mr. Romanov and are thankfull for him saving us. We'll have the last laugh!

96

johnboy,

13/12/2006 23:02:04

99. Bobbi, Gorgie farm / 8:11pm 13 Dec

quality bobbi

at last a voice of reason, i dont know where all these fans appear from.im convinced that as like you a minority of them have in fact jumped on the wagon of glory.

im sick of the moaning the sniping and the total disrespect there showing for the football club, the word GENUIN is used in other posts
fans who want too totaly destroy any good work thats been done in the last cpl o seasons , blame everything on VR. forgetting that hearts are still very much in contention too do again what they done last season. VR did not make the mess he is in fact attempting too clean it up re structure it over a longer period of time too allow us too breathe.

were having a topsy turvey season so far, i could ring of many similar ones over the years, i dont remember too many fans moaning like this.
we all want success and stabilty at the football club.

hearts have never had it better, the facilities are top class, they pay big money wages, can bring in relatively unknown talents and give them the chance too move onto next level ( skacel )

only team in scotland matching them for talented players in my eyes = hibernian fc.
there morrocan players are both exciting an have huge potential.
and of course they have there midfield seems soon too be dismantled if we were too bel;ieve what we read.
as like that situation we all have to wait to osee what is going too happen.

mon the HOMFC 1874

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Jeremy Simon,

West Lothian 13/12/2006 23:19:47

Totally agree with Johnboy again! Even the bit about Hibs. The difference between us and hibs is that we have a fighting chance of keeping our talent for longer now that Mr. Romanov is in charge, people complain about him being stubborn but he was stubborn not to sell Hartley to Celtic and no-one complained about that! If the pieman was still in charge then I'm sure Hartley, webster and Gordon would all be at the old firm by now but now the old firm know that Mr. Romanov has set a precedence and they won't get our players without a fight so they'll have to be content raiding the wee team for a pittance!

99

johnboy,

13/12/2006 23:26:21

talking about ELLIAS FURST

when will one of the great reporters here enlighten all us jambos by publishing the stpry about the other russian at hearts.

ELLIAS FURST
hearts owner
1899-1930

last match a hearts rangers semi final i think around about 1930.....?

100

Helga , future is Green .,

13/12/2006 23:56:24

Personally you hearts gaffs worry about ones-selfs eh ,,,, ! US HIBBY'S LOVE IT , CANT WAIT 26TH DEC ,

101

Charles l,

perth west Australia 14/12/2006 07:39:43

Dosn't mad vlad understand that more cr$p players will only weeken the team further which will lead to less supporters wanting to re-apply for season tickets next year.Can't wait till we give the Hobos a real 4-0 drubbing Again on boxing day.C'mon the jambos

102

Charles l,

perth west Australia 14/12/2006 07:47:16

I THINK IT IS TIME THAT MAD VLAD REALISES THaT MORE CR&P PLAYERS CAN ONLY DAMAGE THE CLUB MORE.IF THT'S AT ALL POS.the paying public won't pay to see acrap team loosing every week.

103

johnboy,

14/12/2006 07:49:31

haha

heres something funny , ellias furst was in fact the owner of hearts when hibs last won scottish cup lol.
the last russian or infact any man has seen it done its folklore down the dockside.

i think thats hilarious

mon the HOMFC 1874

104

johnboy,

14/12/2006 07:50:24

DONE ALL YOU HIBS FOLK BE RUSSIAN ME ALL AT ONCE


haha


mon the HOMFC 1874

105

GrahamH,

14/12/2006 10:04:13

Johnny Jambo and Jambos Realist, you are both a gift to the Hibs supporters in these posts and those wanting the paranoid wing of Scottish Health Service expanded.

#9 comlains about Romanov bringing Lithuanian players on loan and some of the anti Romanov group say he has too many highly paid players - can't have it both ways. I think we hyave too many journeymen but when we look at number of injuries earlier in season, we needed them.


Scotsman earlier whipped up storm by saying 30 Lithuanians coming on trial and usual anti Romanov posting guys doubted it when I said was a training camp as made no sense for 30 to come here to be watched than 2 or 3 hearts management going out there to watch. The speed some of the anti Romanob brigade jumped onto that article was astounding with the usual, 'he is making a mockery of us statements'.

There are sensible thinking supporters in these posts, (not the 1st 2 mentioned here) who know the real test is the January window, it's not far away and the anti Romanov brigade should close ranks and support the team (which includes management), until then.

106

Jambo Realist,

14/12/2006 12:07:20

#121 GrahamH, Scorchio, Bobbi and johnboy.

What are you offering beyond the usual ridiculous retorts blame the media, blame other supporters who disagree with you, blame Hibs - wise up.

GrahamH a few questions if I may -
on loan players - can you explain to me, within the context of the '3-5 year plan' what benefit this brings to HMFC. Do YOU know something that everyone else in Scotland doesn't? Please share it.

Also can you please inform me how the January transfer window will be the real test?
I take it you mean when we sign some more unkown quantities and off load the troublesome Hartley, Gordon and Brellier? That will be good for the team eh?

Time will be the test you are right. And I stand to be corrected, only I don't think that we should be hanging around as the club becomes a big shop window for VR to sell his wares.

But can I ask again (as I have in previous weeks and failed to get an answer) - please let me know the details of VR's '3-5 year plan' what is the vision? What are its aims? How will it be achieved? How do we know it is on track? Please fill me in on the details I really want to know.

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Jambo Realist,

14/12/2006 12:11:36

#121 - PS I do share this obsession that GrahamH, Scorchio et al have with Hibs.

I am a gift to Hibs fans am I? I am on here to express my opinions about Hearts - thats what I do and I ignore the rubbish posts about 'tick tock', etc, etc.

You guys seem so interested in scoring points off Hibees and making sure that they can't score points off us (a futile excerise these days if you ask me) that you are failing to see the wood for the trees - but hey, thats your choice - I'm just expressing my opinion.

108

Johnny Jambo,

14/12/2006 12:44:59

#121 GrahamH, I am sorry you feel that way, "Gift to the Hibs fans" indeed, actually if you take the time to read some of the posts you will see that there are actually a great number of Hibs Fans and others come to that, who believe that what Jambo Realist and myself along with a few others are saying here actually makes some sense. We are not just plodding along with our head in the sand like some others.
Hearts are in trouble and thats fact and we are just expressing our concerns.

109

Edinburghs only big team,

14/12/2006 15:05:24

I think Johnny Jambo and Jambo Realist are great.

They should be on telly - absolute class.

Ooh ma sides are killing me!

The new "Two Ronnies"

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14/12/2006 20:12:47
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Jambo Realist,

15/12/2006 09:49:37

#126 - johnboy - what an intelligent post that was - thanks for enlightening me.

Here if you feel the need to comment on my posts then I will certainly 'start yer p1sh wi' you.

Don't you just admire the keyboard hardmen.

The one thing in post 126 worth debating though - 'you dont always get what you want you get what you need' - I don't think HMFC are getting what they need at the minute - but if you're fed up with my 'moaning' just don't read my posts.

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johnboy,

15/12/2006 10:49:18

your posts are anti hearts as far as im concernred.
dont matter too me what you think, VR is the owner of hearts, so surely that makes him a wee bit more in there than you or i.

you dont understand it ?

he is trying too help us and your abusing the club and supporters like myself with that attitude of yours that you know best.
you seem too have all the explanations and reasons but none of them come from VR.
they are in fact fro mthe media publications, your saying nothign that hasnt doen the rounds, so what exactly is it your doing too help hearts?

113

Jambo Realist,

15/12/2006 11:23:32

#128 - johnboy a couple of questions:

I'm abusing the club and supporters like yourelf - excuse me but I'm not the one slinging insults at people on a public forum am I? (see post #126)

If it doesn't matter to you what I think then why are you reading my posts and commenting on them?

Where have I once said that I know best? I'm just expressing my views which I am fully entitled to - I see it a different way from you thats all.

You are right that I (or you) have had no explanation from VR. That is why I am trying to interpret his actions - what he has done - I would love to know more but he is not prepared to let you or I know what is going on. I think as paying customers we are entitled to more.

In your opinion I am anti-Hearts, fair enough you are entitled to your point of view.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - I genuinely hope that YOU are right and I am wrong. I don't want VR to damage the club (much as I think he is) I hope that he builds a new stand, delivers more quality players (to replace the quality he is disposing of and that we are successful.

But the way it is going I am sceptical.

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Jambo Realist,

15/12/2006 15:28:22

#130 official statements such as?

Perhaps: 'the cure may be difficult but at least we have the diagnosis' Because that helps doesn't it.

Apparently I talk 'gash' what about this:
"there not you opinion ffs, there straight out the daily newspapers" Right ok then.

I certainly do make comments against Romanov - if you can't handle that then fair enough. I couldn't give a toss what you think about me.

Trot on.

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johnboy,

15/12/2006 17:59:13

jambo hater

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Jambo Realist,

18/12/2006 08:33:12

#132 - don't make me laugh.


 

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