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Published Date: 22 December 2007
HEARTS 2
INVERNESS 3
INVERNESS substitute Graham Bayne hit an injury-time winner to pile more misery on 10-man Hearts in an incredible game at Tynecastle.
Lithuanian keeper Eduardas Kurskis endured another calamitous afternoon to effectively hand the points to Caley Thistle.

Russell Duncan had handed Inverness a first-half lead and John Rankin doubled the advantage from the penalty spot on 53 minute
s.

But Christophe Berra pulled one back, before a crazy period ensued at the finish.

Kurskis – who gifted Rangers a winner last weekend – was handed a red card for a stupid second booking and all looked lost for Hearts.

But Andrius Velika hauled them level with a late penalty, before Bayne struck at the death to leave Hearts with just one win in their last nine league matches.

Caley Thistle served early notice of their intent with two Ian Black drives, before Kurskis illustrated early nerves as he hesitated to collect a loose ball.

But Hearts settled down and almost struck after six minutes when Inverness goalkeeper Michael Fraser failed to hold a crisp Velicka close-range strike and Phil McGuire hacked clear.

Four minutes later, Lee Wallace roared down the left, before cutting the ball across goal, where Kestutis Ivaskevicius was denied by a reflex Fraser stop. The ball quickly broke back to the midfielder, whose second effort was this time deflected wide.

Hearts were now in full flow and Audrius Ksanavicius came even closer right in the 11th minute, rattling the crossbar with a sweet 22-yard shot.

But Tynecastle was left stunned in the 21st minute when the visitors broke the deadlock. A neat passing move saw Rankin feed Black and he played in Duncan, who steered a 20-yard drive past the despairing Kurskis.

The goal had taken the wind from Hearts' sails and Rankin was next to go close when he fizzed a shot past.

Brewster's men quickly sought to protect the lead, getting numbers behind the ball yet threatening on the break.

Hearts were dealt another blow just after the half-hour mark, with the lively Ksanavicius limping off after a challenge from Ross Tokely, with Calum Elliot coming on.

But the hosts spurned a great chance to level after 37 minutes when Velicka's cross was dummied by Elliot and the onrushing Andrew Driver could only sidefoot into Fraser's grateful arms.

Despite the opening, Hearts, shorn of Laryea Kingston and Michael Stewart in midfield, were lacking creativity as they struggled to make inroads and were roundly booed off at half-time.

Inverness appeared comfortable to sit back and let Hearts come at them, but Velicka almost had some joy after 51 minutes when Fraser smothered his shot from the edge of the penalty area.

It was to prove a pivotal save as the Highlanders doubled their tally within two minutes.

Marius Zaliukas slipped as Duncan played a through ball and Romanian Marius Niculae raced into the box, only to be caught by Kurskis' outstretched leg.

Referee William Collum was perfectly placed to award a penalty – and caution Kurskis – before Rankin stepped up to tuck the spot-kick into the bottom left-hand corner.

Hearts looked dead and buried, but they gave themselves a lifeline in the 61st minute when Berra headed in Driver's corner.

Yet, bizarrely, Elliot – on the field less than 30 minutes – was replaced seconds later in a double change with Ivaskevicius for Michal Pospisil and Saulius Mikoliunas.

Hearts pushed forward for the equaliser, but they continued to look fragile in defence and the nervy Kurskis twice fumbled shots under his body before recovering.

Fraser denied Mikoliunas with another fine stop as time ticked on, before Berra prodded past.

The game was ebbing away from the Gorgie side and Kurskis failed to help their cause when he was stupidly red-carded five minutes from time.

The Lithuanian was trying to let the ball run out for a goal-kick under pressure from Duncan. He did so, but the pair then crazily squared up on the touchline, with Duncan booked and Kurskis sent packing for a second yellow.

Lee Wallace was drafted into nets with Hearts having used all their subs and it appeared game over.

But, remarkably, they levelled in the 88th minute when Velicka tucked away a penalty after he had been tugged back by Rankin.

The Tynecastle side looked to have rescued a remarkable point, but the visitors had the last laugh when Bayne lashed home a loose ball for the winner in injury-time.




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  • Last Updated: 22 December 2007 5:57 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Heart of Midlothian FC
 
1

Gorgie's Finest,

22/12/2007 17:49:22
Surely This now has to be the end of the 3 stooges Frail & co must walk now, be sacked, or forced to leave by the fans. Vlad must get someone in that is good enough and stop meddling in something he hasn't a clue about (managing a football team.)
Yet again that excuse for a goalkeeper is in goal, and ultimately cost us all thre points in fact cost us a draw even. The only plus point from his sending off is he'll be banned for next game. Left to be i'd ban him from ever showing face at Tynecastle again.

Action must be taken by the fans NOW before it is too late for our club.
2

huggs,

22/12/2007 17:49:30
How many chances are we going to give this keeper ?
At least he is suspended now thank god
Think Frail should take a leaf out of JC's book and do the right thing
3

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 22/12/2007 17:52:41
Stevie Fail asked for 5 out of 5 - can only be losses now. I was there and despair about what happening next. We could still have won it near the end but we didn't and that's what counts.

9th place!
4 points off 2nd bottom.

Big change needed NOW!
4

EKhearts,

22/12/2007 17:52:59
The circus rolls on!

5

Gorgie's Finest,

22/12/2007 17:53:42
Meant to add, What does people think the excuses will be this week from Frail or what he will say when interviewed. Heres a few guesses:

"Dissapointed about the result but we can take plenty positives from the way the lads fought back"

"Again we had the match in our hands and it was only a late goal that denied us again, we have to stop losing late goals"

"I feel sorry for the goalkeeper, i feel the fans were behind him"

Any more guesses as to how the interview/ after match statements will go?
6

Another Albert,

22/12/2007 18:03:48
#1 - "Action must be taken by the fans NOW before it is too late for our club".

Be realistic, son. No one will do anything because all it needs is one positive result and everyone is on the "Hearts will now climb the league" bandwagon again.

Which will last a wee while then it will head in the opposite direction again.

Football fans have shorter memories than your average goldfish.
7

semac,

corstorphine 22/12/2007 18:08:13
comments please. Newcastle Jambo and Victor.
8

HIBEES__FOREVER,

/ 22/12/2007 18:13:08
Time for another stadium anouncement from Vlad to take the heat off of things.....

And you lot will fall for it all over again.

9

Hibs fc,

22/12/2007 18:15:03
Panic at Paradise (parhead),
TURMOIL AT TYNIE,
LMAO NINTH IN LEAGUE,
When romanov said champ's league did he not mean CHALLENGE CUP,
I REALLY LOVE TO SEE YAMS RELEGATED,
XXX MERRY XMAS & HAPPY NEW YEAR FROM A HIBBY,

PS... yes you will be obove us by xmas.FOOLS.
TA-TA GOING OUT TO CELEBRATE NOT HIBS POINT BUT ICT'S THREE.
10

Hibs fc,

22/12/2007 18:16:08
HAHA SHOULD READ parkhead well done yams now it's a merry xmas...
11

Gorgie's Finest,

22/12/2007 18:19:06
#6
"Son?"
If i was your son you must be an old man.

And yes there will be some that will say that however im not one. One good/half decent result will never paper over the cracks or have me saying were on the up again. Every team can have a good result now and then. Look at Falkirks today for just one example.

12

Dood,

22/12/2007 18:20:32
Bit naughty to be posting on a Yams thread but hey ho....

Where's all the regular deluded posters now then eh? Been keenly reading over the least couple of weeks abuot Hibs being toppled by the mighty Yams before the new year, Hibs being relegation fodder, Blah blah blah. I'd be taking a wee look over the shoulder you poor deluded fools. Gretna creeping up and you aint got the best of records against them have you? Oh dearie me!!! My sides......

Oh aye, and the keeper situation? What comes around eh? Was that Zibi in goal today for you? Heh heh heh!

Happy Christmas. And I hope new year continues in the same vein.
13

mrhibs07,

22/12/2007 18:24:14
#11
That falkirk result just has Yogi saying "come and get me Hibs" oozing out of it.
14

Hibs fc,

22/12/2007 18:26:58
BARCELONA WANT " ZIBBY KURSKIS "
for there xmas party - not as a player, heard he's a clown.
15

HIBEES__FOREVER,

22/12/2007 18:28:21
Victoria
Fit of the walk Yambo
Taras
Etc....

Come out , Come out , wherever you are......
16

Hibs fc,

22/12/2007 18:29:42
I'm going to xmas party tonight - dressed as a yam,
bet i get a few laughs,
hahahahahahahahahahahaha.
where's all the usual FLUTE'S.
17

Gorgie's Finest,

22/12/2007 18:30:50
Hibs FC as bad as things may be at Tynecastle at present we can at least see where our problems are and freely admit it and speak about it like adults, which clearly you are not..so this celebration, i suppose will be asking the first person who walks by you to go into the corner shop for a bottle of buckfast for you and your little insignificant ned friends.

back onto relegation as ive said it will never happen (Not while gretna are still in the spl lol) but unlike you i have had the utmost pleasure in seeing the hobos relegated and all in the same year as we won the scottish cup (Thats the big cup to you as you have never, and WILL never see it)

Now toddle along little boy theres an asbo calling you and your ned friends
18

Hibs fc,

22/12/2007 18:32:14
BEEN TOLD A FRONT RUNNER FOR HIBS JOB PETER BEARDSLEY,
?????? WONDER WHO'S BETWEEN THE STICKS FOR YAMS NEXT GAME.
19

Hibs fc,

22/12/2007 18:33:26
#18 WALK ON SON hahahahaha just keep walking.
toddle along.
20

mrhibs07,

22/12/2007 18:33:29
#18
Come on GF. 2008 could just be our year?
21

mrhibs07,

waiting 22/12/2007 18:36:59
Wonder where victor ian and the moth are? probably oot christmas shopping.
22

Gorgie's Finest,

22/12/2007 18:38:21
Peter Beardsley you been on that bucky already hahahaha
peter pan more likely.

And Beardsley gonna come to manage hibs on a poxy little wage and nothing to spend...reality check Hibs= penny pinching tight fisted board, fleecing the fans, Petrie and farmer lining their own pockets...Beardsley thats the best joke ive heard all day.

Wasn't mourihno spotted in the cabbage and ribs last night? maybe you might get him. HAHAHA
23

HIBEES__FOREVER,

22/12/2007 18:41:04
#18

I have seem Hearts get relegated ---- twice!!!

I have also seen them fail to come back straight back up again.

Keep digging mate you'll be in Oz soon.

As for Gretna , at least they won today.(getting closer)

How many times have your lot beaten them this season ?

24

Hibs fc,

22/12/2007 18:41:54
1/ champ's league football.
2/ world class striker.
3/ world class manager.
4/ magnificent stadium.

HAHAHA = NINTH (9) IN SCOTTISH PREMIER LEAGUE.
AT THIS TIME OF THE YEAR THERE'S PLENTY PANTOMIMES ABOUT NONE BIGGER THAN THE TYNECASTLE ONE.

Have to keep my eyes open as romanov is in the final of come dancing.
His son got knocked out in first round.(wonder why)
25

HIBEES__FOREVER,

22/12/2007 18:43:31
23

Whoever we get , it WILL be a manager - unlike an office junior who picks up the team sheet from a fax machine on match day.

So get your own little house in order first yiu sad little person
26

Skinnybob,

22/12/2007 18:43:51
2 seasons ago we had a solid back 5 of Gordon, Neilson, Fyssas, Pressley & Webster. That ultimately helped us to 2nd place in the league.

Fast forward to now and we have a different keeper and back 4 almost every week. The result of this is that we leak like a seive at the back.

How the f### can Vlad not see this?

Losing 3 goals at home to the likes of Dundee Utd & ICT, as well as being unable to beat the worst team to grace the SPL in many a season suggests we are heading one way only - and it's not up.

I'm totally fed up with all the 'positive' talk coming from Stevie Frail. We suck big time and if he can't see that then he should go now.
27

Riley Hamish,

Edina 22/12/2007 18:44:29

Two weeks ago I wrote on these posts (just after the Motherwell defeat that a) There was NO chance of the Hearts making up the nine point lead by Motherwell and b) The Jambos were then only ONE point ahead of InverBl00dyNess.
Two weeks on, I have no pleasure in recording (despite being a 'Well fan...'cos WE got humped today) that Hearts are NOW some TWELVE points behind 'Well.........and FIVE points behind InverWonderfulNess.......things go from bad to even badder and STILL Hearts fans do NOTHING about getting this mad Lithuanian Cha-Cha Champion under control.
What the F*** are you guys doin' other than sitting back and moaning.......Get off yer 4rses and get yer club back....NOW !!!
28

Gorgie's Finest,

22/12/2007 18:46:37
#24

Ive also seen hearts relegated twice and fail to come back up in one season, ive also saw hibs relegated twice granted they came straight back up, but i've also saw hearts win the scottish cup twice and play in the quarter finals of the uefa cup. as ive proven before on these threads hearts will beat you lot hands down for stats if you really wanna go there.

So not me doing the diggin shall i hand you the shovel?
29

Hibs fc,

22/12/2007 18:47:55
Someone tell vladimir you dont get champ's league footie with following stats.
PLAYED 18
------------
LOST EIGHT
DRAWN FIVE
WON FIVE
30

Dood,

22/12/2007 18:48:54
#29, and in all seriousness - you may also see your club go to the wall soon if the status quo remains.
31

Happyhibee1956,

Southampton 22/12/2007 18:51:10
Well I never!

Did Hertz get their keeper from Easter Road? lol

I dont suppose we will hear any further jibes from victoria about Hibs goalies.
32

some truth about romanov, Lithuania,

Kaunas 22/12/2007 18:51:26
#25 "Have to keep my eyes open as romanov is in the final of come dancing."

In the final, you say? Old news, fella. Actually, he won it yesterday (though, if you ask me, he was the worst dancer in throughout the competition - performances more woeful than Kurskis' in the goals)
33

HIBEES__FOREVER,

22/12/2007 18:52:39
29

If you want I'll dig you a hole a put you out of your misery.

Long live Vlad and his fax
34

mrhibs07,

22/12/2007 18:54:15
#29
What about 1986? I remember that one. MITA as your shirt sponsors. MITA won the league MITA won the cup. But won hee haw.
35

steve the jambo,

22/12/2007 18:56:50
#38, totally agree with you , its about time we stood up for our club, vlad is making a mockery of us. Champions league? Spl champions?. No, I dont think so, more like relegation canditates.It pains me to say that our club is in a worse state on the pitch, than before Romanov came.We need to stand up NOW.Boycott games, stop buying merchandise, anything that will get through to Vlad,It's our club not his
36

Ancient Hibee,

edinburgh 22/12/2007 19:01:10
no team listed so i suppose tall was missing again-what idiotic team selections-what really is the point.after reading the contributions of Gorgies Finest I'd hate to meet Gorgies worst-he makes some of our morons seem li8ke einstein(a centre half with bayern munich).when are some of the lower orders going to stop seeing everytrhing their team does by relating it to the other edinburgh team,I will say this considering the different wage bills there is a lot of (hopefully not Hearts)Romanov money goung down the swanee.
37

jmcmil,

22/12/2007 19:05:33
Merry Christmas Victor!
38

Politically Incorrect Thank You Very Much,

Galway 22/12/2007 19:06:34
Why don't the fans vote with their feet and just stop going to the games??

We're a laughing stock right now and surely hitting Vlad in the pocket will make him realise that he simply cannot carry on like this.
39

Another Albert,

Just had my tea 22/12/2007 19:12:53
GF #11 - Och, I'm only 52.

Which means I can remember quite a lot.

Been following my team since 1969. Buy, hey, can't remember many clubs in more of a shambles than HMFC just now.

You're right to snap at all the towrags that post on these sites. Muppets, the lot of them. Oh for a sensible thread.

But like #36 - until there is some sort of organised rebellion, nowt will happen cos all the muppets will grasp at any straw in the vain and wild hope that salvation is round the corner. And, boy, it don't look like it is with you lot.

I'd be worried.

But then again, we got a very unlikely point today. We ain't out of the woods by a long shot. The upcoming fixture list is a tad daunting.

Ciao

40

Hibs fc,

22/12/2007 19:18:14
Hi bert nice 2 meet ye,
you'll remember the johnny hamilton and tommy traynor alan anderson ect, another guy i liked was roald jenson sadly jenson and traynor die'd very young 49 + 52 i believe, anyway believe it or not i was a yam in those days, got to bertie going for a dozen pints o lager then maybe a lapdance then a sauna,
might see you there no??,
aw the best.
41

Hibs fc,

22/12/2007 19:21:00
MOTHY (boris the blade)did you get a xmas card from fergus,
42

Sardonic Jambo,

hangoverland 22/12/2007 19:29:26
no. 37 cheers for bein a sane and sensible hibs poster, its good to see they actually exist!

back to hearts: you literally couldn't write this stuff, panto season indeed. now romanov's finished dancing perhaps he'll chance a glance at the spl table and notice we're not on course for winning the league...muppet that he is. can't imagine things getting better in time to save our season, we'll end up finishing 7th at best and probably finish the season with kaunas' current manager.

tall should be guaranteed a start, as should banks, but we all knew that already, seems pointless even talkin about these things. when will genuine action against romanov begin? should have happened when that idiot rix was 'in charge'. too many daft jambos who live in constant deluded optimism about the near future.

who wants to bet hearts appeal against kurskis' ban...?
43

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 22/12/2007 19:40:36
Things are bad when even mangerless, rudderless, also in freefall, selling club Hibs fans can mock.

It's a good thing really, when Romanov get's over his ballroom victory maybe one of his countless paid followes will tell him of the growing discontent.

9th and near half way though season!!!!
44

Gorgie's Finest,

22/12/2007 19:47:49
#40
Well said, and to be honest yes its worrying has been for a long time, and i like a lot of hearts fans will freely admit to it being a shambles at tynecastle. This is probably the worst situation we have been in for more than 20 years. Ive followed Hearts through everything since 1972 so not far behind you for length of time supporting our clubs
45

Jingling Geordie,

Sunshine on Leith 22/12/2007 19:49:09
Away up in Gorgie at Tynecastle Park
Thre's a wee fitba team that's well wide oh the mark
Their target wiz Europe but due tae their form
It looks like Ibiza and then Benidorm.

Vlad..........Muppet
Frail.........Puppet
Kurkis........Zibi
Miko..........Brian Phelps
Stewart.......Machine gun mouth
Kingston......The fans love me, I love me

Nuff said.
46

streetwise,

somewhere in my head 22/12/2007 19:50:27
Dear Vlad Scotish,no UK business is watching.
47

castlejambo,

Ellon 22/12/2007 20:06:33
Have just listened to Frail on Hearts world. Sounds really gutted. But the real issue is that our other two "managers" have no responsibility of speaking about these dire results during the last few weeks - but only they have the power to select the team it appears. Poor Frail is the fall guy. It is not his ultimate responsibility to select the team but he has to defend the situations he has little or no power to control. That is what's wrong at Tynecastle. Those who are accountable are not accountable for such disastrous decisions as playing Kurskis in goal again. Our situation is drastic, we are in freefall. Vlad took all the plaudits when we did well a couple of seasons ago. Now he must face up to the fact that his system does not work in Scottish football. The sooner he realsises this the better and actually does something about it. Do we really have the players who can dig in an do something about it when things are going so badly. I doubt it. How the f**k can teams like Inverness, Motherwell, Aberdeen, Hibs, Falkirk, Dundee Utd be above us when we have the financial resources we do. Over to you Vlad. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT NOW.WE NEED A NEW MANAGERIAL SET UP AND WE NEED IT FAST!!
48

exile-lad,

the dark side 22/12/2007 20:28:11
I hear John Collins is going to take the job on at hearts.........he did say he needs a challange........and he can have as many players as he wants as long as they are Lithuanian and the godfather picks the team.........on a even score What are both the Edinburgh clubs playing at .......both have been up there and all but fall from grace.....its time hibs an hertz got their fingers oot and kicked some ass
49

Plantagenet,

22/12/2007 20:28:31
When are we going to be 'Fortress Tynecastle' again, it used to be a rarity to leave Tynie without 3 points in the bag. Now we have slipped to mediocrity where 3 points are a rarity. What is Romanov thinking of? I thought the man was supposed to be a winner? who will be his scapegoat now? Frail will probably we sacrificed to appease us but his Lithuanian crew will still be there, taking high wages for unacceptable performance, nothing will change. What has Stevie banks done to offendour little prima donna? and why is that clown Elliot even allowed near the subs bench? at least 'Curse kis' will now be banned.
50

basher,

edinburgh 22/12/2007 20:39:43
did the boycott happen today??????

i must say that as a hibby i'm delighted with the point at parkhead today.

but hearts-wise....c'mon hearts fans WAKE UP.....you were warned a long time ago that this would happen to you're team....remember when vlad first came and a lot o hearts fans were wearing the daft furry hats and cuddling and shaking vlads hand????......bet you all feel dumb now.

all i can say and i've said it before edinburgh need both teams to be doing well in the league and i just wonder how many hearts fans would rather mr robinson was still in place?????
51

what a chancer,

abdn 22/12/2007 20:48:33
I said last week it has nothing to do with frail if we are missing chances upfront then the strike rate must be at fault if we leak goals ,why are they not closing the attacks down ,if they cant do the job on the park get rid of them ,dont give them a chance again to prove how weak they are.
52

Gorgie's Finest,

22/12/2007 20:51:00
#51
Good post m8 even if there was a slight hint at a dig in it but banters banter not like the drivel some of your fellow fans come up with.

Anyway in answer to your question. No i don't wish the pie man were still in place, if he was there wouldnt have been a place for him to be in, if you know what i mean. Hearts would have gone down the pan. I know things at moment are terrible and were having our worst season in a very long time however were still in business, and no matter whatever can be said about vlad i do believe he here for the long haul and wont dump us. It wouldnt make any business sense to dump hearts he would lose a fortune doing so, and he didnt make his millions by throwing it away.
53

some truth about romanov, Lithuania,

Kaunas 22/12/2007 20:52:02
#50 Romanov is a winner only when he can buy a win - as in the dancing competition.
54

what a chancer,

abdn 22/12/2007 20:52:52
Good to see the old firm lose points brilliant for the league .
55

what a chancer,

abdn 22/12/2007 20:56:31
What happened to the midfield we blame miko,but that one wont work this time
56

Ayrshire Jambo,

Looking at Arran 22/12/2007 21:08:58
#48 Castlejambo - could not agree with you more. Just back from Tynie and could not believe my eyes at the antics of our club. Started brightly with several good chances which we just couldn't tuck away. But what a state our poor keeper was in - a nervous wreck who should never have been played and actually offered some protection in the reserves to regain his confidence. His mishandling in the 2nd half was cringeworthy - at least two simple pick-ups nearly squirmed over the line. His sending off simply demonstrated the frame of mind he was in all afternoon. Crazy...crazy. Elliot was brought on, the crowd groaned, Elliot was then taken off and the crowd were dumfounded. What is going on?? Fans were actually LAUGHING at players and the 'management'. Hello! That is not supposed to happen! Are the 'silent two' above Mr Frail actually going to accept any responsibility for this or will they just leave his confused head on the chopping block. 17,000 paying customers deserve answers. This arrogant silence cannot go on. It is making a mockery of a once proud institution.
57

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 22/12/2007 21:09:56
The Championship is easily overall a better league than the SPL and Roman Bednar is scoring regularly there. Why is he not at Tynecastle at moment, only Romanov can answer that.
58

Sardonic Jambo,

22/12/2007 21:14:26
56 mate, did you not hear what happened today? we had that idiot kurskis in goal again. the defence is a mess because romanov's trying to spark interest in zaliukas by showcasing his inept defending abilities to the indifferent world.

as for the rest of the players who are actually any good, they literally don't have a clue what they're meant to be doing because our very own flippin fred astaire dictates what team will play, an then his trinity of muppets f*nny about with the tactics every week to the extent that nobody can get consistency of performance.

the club is blatantly a laughing stock, the players know it, the fans know it, frail even knows it. even man utd would fail to perform if their players had to put up with all this pash off the field, so to expect young players like our entire midfield to perform under this much pressure is asking a bit much.
59

Sardonic Jambo,

22/12/2007 21:15:55
58: money. romanov's eager to make a buck on this fellow. looks like it's going to work.
60

Roy of the rovers,

Barrow-in-Furness 22/12/2007 21:30:04
who can predict the future? Hearts may get relegated, Hibs may win the Scottish cup, who really knows?
But the history books will always show Hearts up as by far having the best of the Derby record, and 106 years? I rest my case.
61

HIBEES__FOREVER,

22/12/2007 21:43:33
The truth is that both Hibs & Hearts are in a mess.

The way things are going there will be 4 derbys this season as we will both be in bottom 6.

You have a mad lunatic who picks the team and knows nothing about football.

We have a CE who grabs every penny he can and puts nothing back into the squad.

Yes we have a superb new training complex to be proud of , but Petrie has to learn the young talent cannot be sold off to the OF time and time again , all that happens is that they get better we get poorer and the gap gets bigger.

Lets get together, you git rid of Vlad , we get rid of Petrie and both get after the OF.For Hibs and Hearts to be 5th and 9th is a joke an not good enough.
You guys have to take the lead , Vlad holds all the aces but you have to do something and quick before it's too late.
62

must_score,

22/12/2007 21:55:00
3pm kick off on a Saturday! That explains the result - check it out, only one game won with a kick off at that day and time!

Vlad needs to bail out but, there again, that ain't goin to happen..............time to vite with feet!
63

Ancient Hibee,

edinburgh 22/12/2007 22:07:26
This is not a wind up-was this not the week for the new stand plans to be submitted?Could it be that this is the master plan?Team rotten,results poor,pull the plug,redevelop Tynecastle,players are owned mostly by Kaunus or Romanov personally so no loss there;Gordon was sold so overdraft reduced;Romanov gets his dosh out;cheerio Hearts-make sense?
64

must_score,

22/12/2007 22:16:04
unfortunately #64, yes it does
65

tamflogelin edinburgh,

edinbugh 22/12/2007 22:19:36
Today for me was the final straw. We were brilliant two years ago and it is all going belly-up. If that clown in goals ever plays again in a Hearts jersey 50% of the fans will never come back. As for the substations how can you ruin some-ones confidence by taking them off 30 mins after they come on. I know Calum was not having the best of games but at least he plays for the jersey. After come dancing Vlad needs to come to Tynecastle and see how bad we really are. NO fight, skill or effort from a lot of players. Why do Tall and Pospiscil not play from the start? Where was Nade today ?

Are you watching Romanov !!!
66

Gorgie's Finest,

22/12/2007 22:25:30
#64
This is not a wind up either. So forgive if it sounds like im having a go here, what you say make sound like a possibility to some or wishfull thinking to others, but as stated in my last post romanov would lose money were to to seel Hearts or dump us, people of the persuasion that he is selling us down the river are either on the wind up or have no business accumen. If This was Romanovs plan to dilute HMFC for financial gain the profit would have been there when he first took over, not 2+ years down the line, yes the land value will have increased, however how much money has Romanov actually invested? millions, if you count wages, transfer fees for players he has actually bought then theres the actual outlay to employ architects and planners for the "New stand" seems to be a lot of work and hassle and expense to hide a sinsister ploy to sell hearts down the river.
67

Hashimoto,

edinburgh 22/12/2007 23:08:48
Hearts AND Hibs doing poorly, ain't we? The sad thing is that these must be among the poorest Celtic and Rangers teams in years and the Edinburgh clubs still can't put up a decent scrap. C'mon Santa - we want a manager (and one for the Jambos too since it's Chrimbo - just not a very good one).
68

Tanfield,

22/12/2007 23:13:07
#67
Maybe, just maybe there is a reason why Vlad is willing to take a hit on some of the money he has "invested". There's a ton of money flowing through the club - where is it all coming from? Think about it
69

Alek Ahauf,

22/12/2007 23:25:09
I am not reading any other posts on this game. I was unfortunate to be there today and witness this utter and complete shambles, a joke thats what we are, unable now to beat any other team in the s.p.l.
35 years of attending games will end at the end of this season, i thought we had sunk to lows in the late seventies early eighties but this has to be the lowest of the low... and Lawence Brodie, Charlie Mann etc still call it progress!!!!!!! f--k youse im spending my hard earned cash on something else.
70

Gorgie's Finest,

22/12/2007 23:28:11
#71
Tanfield, i hear what your saying and if this was dodgy money etc it would have been found out long before now, this is the same guy remember eberyone said had no money to start with, the same guy accused of fraud etc by every fan of every other club in scotland including some jamboa and as well as certain media outlets, however what a lot of people forget is before he was even allowed a sniff at buying hearts or any other business interest in this country he had to be checked by the scottish exec, and by govmnt officials etc and by inland revenue, he had to be able to prove where his money had came from, and judging by the country he came from im sure a lot of the checks done would have been a little more thorough than say had he come from america or western europe. He passed all the checks, then when the bbc decided to do the docu about him they tried and failed miserably to portray him as a swindler, and certain things said in the docu have been proven to be incorrect i wonder if an apology was ever made. Dont get me wrong im not for one second saying he will be 100% squeaky clean, just as sir tom farmer, david murray, and even abramovich are not and never have been 100% squeaky clean when it comes to business dealings. IM sure all successfull business's and businessmen have had there fingers in a few pies at some point and some have been rotten.
71

Alek Ahauf,

22/12/2007 23:33:47
Romanov has withdrawn stadium plans...... Fact!!!!
There will be no new stand next season or any other.
Also Romanov acts as agent to 30+ Lith players on HMFC books creaming up to a grand a week of them ( for himself) while season ticket money pays wages, he is making a fortune of these useless crap and paying out nothing!!! WAKE UP FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
72

Tanfield,

22/12/2007 23:39:28
#74
GF - Hear what your saying and I cannot disagree with what you have said. One thing though that I have never understood and maybe that's because I'm a Hibby o:) is that from what I know Vlad is a ruthless character and is not used to loosing money hand over fist. The amount that has been invested in Hearts since he took over has not seen and will never see a return. Only the OF have the kind of potential to rake in the kind of turnover that can offset the amount invested.

Ok Hearts made an excellent turnover of £10m (easily more than other clubs including Hibs) but was the staff costs not the same.

It's obvious that there's no money to be made from running a football club, no matter if your Murray, Abramovich or Vlad. I just can't see what's in it for him. No cheap comments about flats etc. I will leave that to our more immature fans.
73

Gorgie's Finest,

22/12/2007 23:48:02
#73+75

Yep just like back to the 70's and 80's hearts fans fighting amonst themselves instead of actually making a stand against the tynecastle regime. Your not the only one pi**ed off angry and frustrated but sniping at fellow fans wont solve anything only worsen the problems. As i said previosuly I too was there in the dull days and stated this is probably the worst season weve had in over 20 years, however im not of the notion to start barracking fellow fans, because they have an opinion, some still follow vlad and support him thats there choice, others hate the guy and always have always will again there choice, while others like me have other opinions. As for the money side romanov is no agent he doesnt have the the legal credentials to be an agent, however like in all sport and in particulrly football the odd little bit of underhand business will be done so granted he probably does make a little out of having the liths playing, he certainly makes money from lith tv and has been guessed on many occasion thats why certain players play when a game is being shown in lithuania.
74

Woody47,

22/12/2007 23:48:14
HA HA HA
And to think of all the cr@p that we had to put up with the goaqlkeepers we have had in the past. Just remember "what goes around, comes around".
ps Is it not this year that you will win the champions league?
75

Gorgie's Finest,

22/12/2007 23:57:28
woody we can still do a cup double. can that be said for hibs? Just keep that mickey mouse cup clean for us, thats if petrie will delve deep enough into the biscuit tin to buy a tin of polish for it.
76

Tanfield,

23/12/2007 00:04:20
#81
That's better!

After reading your comments on #77 I thought you were going to start crying. Good to see that for all Hearts general superiority complex, times are not so good for you.
77

Gorgie's Finest,

23/12/2007 00:13:26
Tan i have to agree with your comment about cant see whats in it for him. I really just cant see him dumpin us to lose a fortune.However as he always said from the start his main objective was a football club why? because he seemingly loves football. why in the UK? well he said at the time when buying hearts his bank Ukio Bankas needed to achieve a credit rating from the west so it could trade in the west thus make more profit and growth. The bank originally had recieved the lowest credit rating a bank can achieve purely down to the fact of the country it came from and becaue it had never traded in the west. Buying a business (namely hearts to coincide with his hobby of loving football) he can bring that brand to the west and achieve the rating needed. These facts haven't been hidden by him.

Changing subject a bit, has anyone else heard the rumours about Bruce Rioch seemingly speaking to Hearts since beginning of december?

Probably just another run of the mill rumour but heard it today.
78

Tanfield,

23/12/2007 00:14:33
#83

No inferiority complex here buddy. Just a better grounding and a willingness to be realistic.
79

Tanfield,

23/12/2007 00:22:31
#84

Noted. Do you feel that securing a position for his bank in the west and thus improving its credit limit was the main reason or is it running a football club.

An educated guess could be that he has experience in running other teams and this was perhaps the logical route for him to go down. Was it not rumoured before that he make enquiries to Dunfy?

On a separate note when was the last time both Edinburgh teams "hit" form like this? Both are bottom 6 material if they keep this up.
80

Tanfield,

23/12/2007 00:26:09
#86

No need to get touchy.

Never felt inferior. Do you feel inferior to fans of say Barcelona, Real etc? Thought not.

Who cares if Hearts record is better than Hibs? I'm not a Hearts fan and to be honest I don't care. Gone are the days when a derby defat really hurt, yes even the 4-0 semi defeat! Also I have come to terms that Hibs will never in my lifetime win the big cup. A regret yes, but nothing really I can do about it.

Cheers Bud
81

Tanfield,

23/12/2007 00:31:19
#88

Another keyboard hardman and how do you know I am ugly and come from Leith? At least get your facts straight before you "attempt" making your childish insults. The ones you made really hurt me!!!!

Yes, my team has had it's fair share of tears over the years. More than most I think but that's all part and parcel of following your football team. You have to accept the good with the inevitable bad (especially in Hibs case!). I can sleep well tonight knowing that any mishaps that Hibs have, have kept you hapy over the years.
82

Tanfield,

23/12/2007 00:32:12
#90

I can now understand your level
83

Gorgie's Finest,

23/12/2007 00:33:08
Tan yes i think the reason he used football was because he had previous experience of running a club, although looking at whats going on at the moment you wouldnt think it. The stories about dunfy are true he did enquire about them, although the stories about dundee utd are untrue he was introduce to eddie thompson at an airport terminal so the press did what they do best, make up a story to suit when they dont know the whole story, and next thing everyone heres about is romanov is trying to buy dundee utd.

Both the edinburgh clubs are a mess at the moment, we can all score points at each other with little bits of banter here and there but bottom line is both are a shambles, and with the OF being at their weakest than they have been in at least 20 years both hearts and hibs should be making use of this and challengin them. All it would take from both is for petrie and farmer to spend some of this vast profit on buying a coiple of quality players and pay decent wages, its one thing to want them to spend the money on top players but no-one will sign for hibs while they have this ridiculous capped wage structure in place. All it takes on our side is for romanov to stop interfering and bring in a good management team to get the players into shape and into line, we gibe a lot of the players a hard time at hearts and some do deserve it however a lot of them are decent and they dont just become bad players overnight, the current setup and stupid rotational system is bound to affect them
84

Tanfield,

23/12/2007 00:36:53
#93

Yes, on paper Hearts should be well above their current position and the reasons why they are not have been well documented.

The sooner some action is taken the better for you all but how long have people (Hearts fans) being saying this? Certainly it's not a recent problem.

I would have though that it things were going to change for the better then it would have happened already. Having said that your current predicament may force the issue.
85

Tanfield,

23/12/2007 00:41:54
#94

Ah, your sparkling wit!

Do you even know whay a Hobo is?

Anyway I apologise for coming on a Hearts thread but they are generally more interesting and normally offer a decent level of debate or banter. Do you know what banter means?

Not in the slightest jealous. I am at peace with Hibs limitations.

At least you don't have to get up early for nursery tomorrow. Easy to make cheap inaccurate comments isn't it?
86

KingKenny,

23/12/2007 05:27:27
this game is good. Pospisil return Too. anyway Hearts need more squad. Kurskis is good keeper but Hearts need Banks and Tall
87

carrottop,

Dumfries 23/12/2007 09:01:16
Said before that if we have to wait unitil the new stand before the new team then sign some top Scots youngsters and bring up our present young squad, we can suffer watching potential greats get their experience but mediocracy with no future is hard to bear.
Frail must stay in some capacity as believe his love for Hearts is what keeps him there and deep down knows he is back up staff, not manager. Also we dont know who the manager is how do we know who we want sacked.
Bought my son a retro strip for Xmas should be going cheap now.
88

huggs,

23/12/2007 09:36:00
#99 Frail is only there for one reason and one only Money,If he had another offer he would be gone
Why must he stay,what good is he doing nothing i can see
We need a big clear out and Frail she be one of them
89

huggs,

23/12/2007 09:36:31
should be i meant
90

Ernie Winchester was MAGIC !,

Edinburgh 23/12/2007 10:56:46
New user - just testing !
91

CSF,

edinburgh 23/12/2007 11:00:43
Look at you all moaning about Hearts FC. You should realy take a good look at yourselfs. Why do you let yourselfs look like mupets? spend all that cash every week going to the game? pay for season tickets?.
Romanov has fooled you all.. Boycott Tynie, I have, and will not put a pennie towards romanovs coffers. I can't complain about our performance this season, I have not been to Tynie, would rather support the Hibs. You are week bunch!!!!
92

CSF,

edinburgh 23/12/2007 11:03:14
As for Stevie Fail, well, there's a job going at Easter Road. Bet he coulnae get that job..
93

It's only a game,

Musselburgh 23/12/2007 11:24:58
As the name says Its only a game.

When are the fans going to wake up and smell the coffee. The hard earned cash wont be coming out of my pocket until the Vladmiester goes east. This bunch of players at Tynie are only of the worst groups we have had since I started to watch the game. How can the Hearts not go with the tried and trusted players at their disposal. For them to start with Kurskis in goals is madness.

We have now used 4 goalies this season although that includes Lee Wallace

What a joke
94

Hibs fc,

23/12/2007 11:34:04
Morning yams = how'd get on yesterday.
HAHAHA
95

It's only a game,

Musselburgh 23/12/2007 11:38:29
It seems that most of the Hearts fans are still in bed.
96

game over,

leith 23/12/2007 11:52:53
heard stevie frails on his way to the S F A to lodge an appeal for the red card shown to the goalie ,this will make him available for the relagation game against st mirren...............beleive
97

busbyfh,

23/12/2007 11:57:19
Vlad lives to prove others wrong and himself as right.

Varied coaches at Hearts said from day one that Kurskis was not good enough.
Against Motherwell his positioning was dreadful.
Against Aberdeen reserves he threw the ball in his net.
By then he should have been banished , but Vlad thought , "I'll prove he is a good goalie and give him a chance again at Ibrox". Idiot.
After that shambles Romanov has delibarately played Kurskis yesterday as a two fingered gesture to all - including us , the fans.
Yet again Vlad was proved wrong by this clown - with a performance that should be played at the Kings Theatre.

VLAD - Now do you realise that this goalie is inept - Just like your pathetic attempts at team selection.
When will you wake up to the fact that you know sod all about football. You pay people wages to pick a team yet do so yourself - STUPIDLY.
Back off and stop being an idiot.Let your employees do what you pay them for. Your ego MUST be harnessed.

There is a lot of off the field good being done in the background but ALL of it is being undone by sticking your nose into team selection.

98

Silence of the Yams,

23/12/2007 12:01:25
Hey Yams, what's it like to follow shoite??
99

Hibs fc,

23/12/2007 12:02:04
Heard zibby's dad played in goals yesterday for the yams.

Great pantomime's at gurgie presently take the kids along, The eleven scrooges ect.
100

Taras Shevchenko,

23/12/2007 13:05:01
First of all I have to say that I'm impressed with the team spirit that CB has managed to nurture at ICT, and their keeper, Fraser has the right kind of fight to be a keeper. All 3 of these things we are missing: good manager, good keeper and team spirit.
101

Taras Shevchenko,

23/12/2007 13:09:32
Like all clubs we are tethered by the transfer windows.....

Kurskis being in goals yesterday, for me, was a clear sign of bloody-minded disrespect; he went down in installments for the first goal and gave away a penalty for the second goal and to top everything else got sucked into a bit of handbag swinging when he should have been preoccupied with getting on with the goal kick.

For me, the red card was a mirror image of what the fans want to happen to Vlad.

Maybe, in some twightlight zone kind-of-way, Vlad swapped bodies with a ballet dancer called Kurskis and he was in the goal-keepers' body yesterday.

I don't think its any coincidence we had so many lithuanians playing yesterday (Vlad but be mightily p!ssed off with cesney btw).....he was on his usual ego rush with all things litho.

I'm a fan of Velicka and I think Zaliukas is suffering from being shunted around...the rest are only average....and are holding our club back.

Getting back to the transfer window; its nearly upon us, and its the last chance saloon for Romanov, IF he cares what the fans think, he needs to spend half the CG money and install a real-deal manager and captain (Berra is still a good player though) - I'd keep Frail for continuity and give hod-it-and-dod-it in the stand the flick.

We are about to get ugly with spitting our dummies out and NOT renewing STs...I feel robbed....I don't feel like its hmfc anymore...its Vlad and his russian mafia conglomerate's little play-toy/trojan horse.
102

Taras Shevchenko,

23/12/2007 13:26:24
106 Hibs fc
103

Hibs fc,

23/12/2007 13:47:11
114 Taras Shevchenko
104

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 23/12/2007 14:06:44
Edinburgh has 2 poor teams this season.

In each case it is obvious that the majority of fault lies with the owners and Directors.

How are so many Edinburgh based supporters so stupid as to be satisfied with petty name calling etc like many above instead of focussing on the root cause of issue?

Hearts fans know Romanov will throw another set of promises for transfer window that don't materialise in order to take heat off and hope a victory here or there will get us off his back. Trouble is, we aren't on his back enough we just take it month on month out.

Playing Kurskis is just the final fingers up to the fan base that has supported the club for decades.
105

Hibs fc,

23/12/2007 14:29:15
grahamH talk for your own team hibs are beaming.
106

Taras Shevchenko,

23/12/2007 14:53:57
re your 115 Hibs fc - I don't get it? What did Hearts last win in 1893?
107

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 23/12/2007 15:45:07
Beaming!!!??? You are the moronic type I am talking about. Your web site shows 1 vivtory in the last 8 games. Never used the word beaming, to the educated it must then be p1ss poor.
108

Hibs fc,

23/12/2007 16:00:49
vivtory : nice 1 that makes me BEAMING.
109

Hibs fc,

23/12/2007 17:13:10
Yams are in huge soapy if they get cuffed from killie!!
that would put them in tenth place in the spl!!
come on now hardly champion's league form,
110

Jimmy Galwe,

Rathvilly 23/12/2007 17:26:12
Line the Romanovs up.
111

Jimmy Galwe,

23/12/2007 17:26:31
Against a
112

Jimmy Galwe,

23/12/2007 17:26:42
wall.
113

The Gorgie Boys Are In Town,

23/12/2007 20:21:57
What odds on Hearts being bottom 2 with Gretna closing in fast early in the new year!

Utter disgrace at the moment, cringeworthy press conferences before every match, and the same nonsense spouted after yet another obvious defeat.

Just doesn't feel like Hearts anymore and we have had plenty of stinking seasons before this one as mentioned already.

Sack these clowns and put a proper manager in charge NOW or the first division beckons Vlad, stop being a tube
114

what a chancer,

abdn 23/12/2007 20:36:33
Look romanov can please himself he bankrolled the hearts,he picks and chooses,he is sitting on a gold mine,while he plays fantasy football,he cant lose,he will get his money back from the land he buys,it wont hurt him if hearts fail,when he gets tired he will start to gilt finsh his product and then sell the assets he has aquired,till then we wait and see.
115

Plantagenet,

23/12/2007 21:41:29
Who is this Polish guy 'nicknamed the Monk' who is being mentioned in the papers today, Hearts and Celtic after him, he can't get a game in Dundee United's first team, doesn't sound like an improvement on the dross we have at present.
116

Plantagenet,

23/12/2007 21:50:36
This Magnificient Seven project going on at Tynecastle just now is one of the few good things happening at our club just now, every time I go I hear that dozens of potential new supporters are there for the first time with their (perhaps Lapsed fan) Dad or Grandad. What an opportunity is being missed by these woeful displays and recent defeats, what percentage I wonder of these youngsters will want a return visit? not many, I would guess, what a wasted opportunity for the club.

 

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