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Hibs squad to get a summer trim – Mixu



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Published Date: 20 May 2008
By COLLEEN PATERSON
MIXU PAATELAINEN revealed he's set to trim his squad in the summer – insisting he wants quality, not quantity.
The Hibs manager feels that his current pool is too big and has already told a number of his players that they are free to leave Easter Road at the end of the season.

The big Finn, who has already agreed deals for St Mirren's David van Zanten and Fabien Yantorno from Gretna, is hoping to bring in a few new faces over the coming weeks but is keen to begin next season with less players on the books.

Hibs, who take on Motherwell in their final SPL match of the season on Thursday night, have used 32 players in all competitions this season but Paatelainen is hoping to start the next campaign with a more streamlined squad.

He said: "There will be a few changes over the summer.

"We will be bringing players in and there will be some leaving because I feel that the squad is a little too big right now.

"I would rather have a tighter squad and hopefully a bit more quality in there too.

"Obviously we have already started looking at players we want to bring in during the close season but I have also told some players that they are free to start looking for another club." Meanwhile Paatelainen was delighted with the news that young defender Darren McCormack has been called into the Scotland Under-21s squad for their international challenge match against Norway tonight.

The centre-half was drafted into the squad following the withdrawal of Paul Caddis from Celtic through injury and Paatelainen is hoping to make it along to Rugby Park to see the player in action.

He added: "Billy Stark called me and asked about Darren after he had a couple of call-offs and I was happy to speak to him. I think that Darren has been excellent for our reserves this season, in games and in training, and he has been involved in a few first-team games for us.

"He is improving all the time and is a solid defender, hopefully he will continue to put pressure on the players in the first team next season.

"It is good that he is being given a chance to make an impression at international level as well and it is good for the club as well.

"It shows that our players have the right attitude. I think that it proves the club is going along the right lines and it is always a huge honour for any player and for Hibs when they are called up into the national side."



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  • Last Updated: 20 May 2008 10:54 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Hibernian FC
 
1

The Wookie,

Edinburgh 20/05/2008 11:07:34

As a "Non Hibby" looking in I'd say that it was lack of quality players that cost you this season - i'm not too sure about trimming too many players though...

Are you sure Van Zanten & Yantorno are any better than wehat you have at present?
2

Lenny,

20/05/2008 11:10:28
Bad reporting, Fabien Yantorno has not actually agreed terms. He is using our training facilities with a view to signing.

Wookie, DVZ I'm not to sure about to be honest but I have no doubt that Yantorno will be a great asset should he sign.
3

Johnny Jambo,

20/05/2008 11:22:07
Lenny, they took of the Hibs Barca story what happened there then??
4

Lenny,

20/05/2008 11:25:49
Johnny, no idea. They seem to do that sometimes. You can still see it on the side bar under 'other Hibs stories'. Could be someone at Hibs has called them up to tell them its rubbish!!!
5

Johnny Jambo,

20/05/2008 11:37:16
Thanks mate, yes could be a non story, as you said maybe too many games in a short space of time.
6

THE BPRENTICE,

20/05/2008 12:22:54
what's with the hibs online surevey? its a bit touchy-feely is it no?
7

Iain Bhern,

20/05/2008 12:25:40
I just heard the Barca story this morning. The official club line is that they are hoping to fix up one more friendly against, in their words, "a so called big name club"
8

hibbyspurs,

20/05/2008 12:26:40
#1 Couldnt agree more with your first statement about a lack of quality costing us 3rd spot this season. Obviously Mixus been told what his wage budget for next season is and as we all know the Hibs board will be nigh on impossible for him to get to budge an inch on that, therefore the natural logic to assume is that hes trying to "trim" the wage bill back by offloading players that perhaps play in positions he feels we have adequate cover for to enable him to bring in 2 or 3 better quality replecaments with the money hes saved on these wages. who these players may be we'll just have to wait & see I s'pose.

I agree though in that if we get to April next year and Hibs fall to pieces in a challenge for 3rd because of players getting injured/ suspended and the squads to small to cope then the knifes will come out rapidly (especialy if any "quality" signings happen to be those affected).

Agree also with #2 on #1's point about DVZ and Yantorno, wait and see with the first but would be happy if we signed up the latter provided he fully recovers from injury.
9

KingKenny,

20/05/2008 12:28:42
My oniy target is Beuzelin stay Hibs..Others not Important to me.
10

The Hallucinist,

20/05/2008 12:47:12
Mixu will need to trim the whole squad if its quality he's after!!
11

hibbyspurs,

20/05/2008 12:48:04
#6

Didnt think it was all that bad.
12

Rolland,

20/05/2008 12:48:19
More cost cutting from the wee team then, still nearly debt free is it.

Have to laugh at them adding quality scrapping around Newtongrange Star for players, Woohoo. I mean look the guys like the Gretna rejects they are after, the never has beens such as Murray and Beuzlin, some quality that lads.

Thanks for cheering up the close season, I just love it when the wee team comes out with such nonsense.

Still good luck in your quest to become debt free hobo's.
13

Indie Rep Kid,

20/05/2008 12:53:28
On one hand, Mixu is trying to get "quality, not quantity"

On the other, he is looking at a player from Newtongrange Star and a guy released by a team relegated to England's bottom tier.

I'll say one thing for Hibs, their PR is a million times better than Hearts!
14

Phil o Brian,

20/05/2008 12:57:30
1# Also agree with your comment. Would like to see more space created for the young lads coming through. Some of the signings recently are OK, but not great. Problem will be if the block the development of the youngsters.
15

THE BPRENTICE,

20/05/2008 12:57:53
#11 they should have asked ST holders ... this is just asking for non-hibs fans skewing the stats.

...mind you, communication is better now that the internet is on the go .. in the nineties, my best mate had a nightmare girlfirend: she was a secretary at Eater Road and when they received letters from disgruntled hibbies, they handed them to her to answer; hahaaaa, she hated football, hated most men and was a pretty wierd person (I think she had issues)...I would have loved to see the replies.
16

Rolland,

20/05/2008 12:58:48
I think they've just made a mistake, its really Mixu that is getting a trim in the summer, pounding the roads round Arthur Seat.
17

hibbyspurs,

20/05/2008 12:59:51
#12

Thank you.... & good luck next season in your teams quest to finish in the top 6...

Go away and worry about your own team before employing your own brand of hobonomics eh?

You sad loser.....
18

hibbyspurs,

20/05/2008 13:01:54
#15

Aye, fair enough & it does just ask some of the same questions the club asked in their recent survey anyway.

As for the other bit, LMAO
19

Fredster.,

20/05/2008 13:03:02
#12

Rolland you big nerd, you have made my day with that comment. Had the boys in the office in fits at how sad you are. Even the jambo's in here were cringing reading that. You still go on about BIG TEAM Wee Team.. come on mate get out your dark room and smell the coffee. Oh and the Gretna point you made, i'm sure in another article on here it says the so called "big team" is looking at there forward. Are you trying to wind us up or you really that sad. Anyway keep it up as its making us all in the office rather happy.
20

Rolland,

20/05/2008 13:14:11
#19 Well Fredster luck for your hobo ass its lunch time or no doubt the boss would be cracking the whip, cause no hobo can be in a position of responsibility, your wee teamers the bottom of the ladder for you guys. I am glad your "office" found it funny, milk and two for me please, now get back to providing the tea and coffee.

Were not going for a Gretna reject people released by the club but those that they would have wanted to keep. Anyway I think with the way hibs signing policy is shaping up you'll have a right fight to avoid relegation again, what with the likes of Kerr and Clayton in your team your heading for the 1st Division faster than Jim Duffys class of 98 !!

Fredster your a wee tea boy now run along and get more sugar.
21

Lance Boyle,

Linlithgow 20/05/2008 13:23:10
He'd be better trying to trim their beer bellies.
22

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20/05/2008 13:23:58
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20/05/2008 13:24:52
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24

just a jambo,

20/05/2008 13:26:15
oh diddyspurs getting annoyed again,away for a trim your hair is getting long, and i dont mean on your head my girl.
25

just a jambo,

20/05/2008 13:27:08
yep typical come one come all, heres bublin now what a surprise.
26

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20/05/2008 13:32:44
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27

Balernojambo,

edinburgh 20/05/2008 13:41:14
#7 Iain I just checked the Hearts web site there is no mention of us playing hibs in a pre season, so your last game is not against us?
28

East at Easter,

Edinurgh 20/05/2008 13:43:16
Dublin Hibs, haha i like it ! All jambos are faggots
29

Lenny,

20/05/2008 13:47:25
Rolland

Once again you come on and make a complete fool of yourself. Im sure the guys in the office mentioned above are not the only ones to laugh at you either.

You mention Gretna reject. Well guess what, it is reported that Hearts are looking at a Gretna player. That must fill you with joy.

You were also on earlier this week saying the 'WEE TEAM' had a WEE friendly. Yep, I guess Premiership Boro and Wigan must be wee in your clearly not all there mind. I really wish we could arrange a BIG friendly like Coventry too.

Still, keep on posting, it really does give us a good laugh.
30

hibbyspurs,

20/05/2008 13:54:26
#24

Getting annoyed? At the likes of Roly Poly and your dumbo self? I wouldnt have thought so my sad little friend...

I have noticed that your posting time on here is very limited to around this time of day and it makes me wonder, is this because:

A) It's the school dinner break?
B) Your not allowed to use the internet at work and so you sadly go along to an "internet cafe" to spout your gibberish?
C) Once you've been ridiculed your too ashamed to respond unti tomorrow?

How about this one?

Man falls over in the street and gets his elephant sized head caught in some railings.. When no one comes to help a small boy asks "why will no one help that poor man?"

To which everyone stops laughing for a second and states in unison "Dont worry son, its just a jambo"....

However another replies "Hang on though going by the size of him it could be Rolland you know"...

This results in people being taken to the ERI suffering from uncontrollable laughter.

Run along now the pair of yez before the tuck shop closes....
31

Rolland,

20/05/2008 14:10:30
Ha ha, sticks and stones guys, I haven't been to a tuck shop in 17 years, but hey ho of course I'm going to be the fat guy from from Grange Hill, although hats off to Dublin for at least trying to come up with something different.

They guys you signed were released by Gretna in that they weren't good enough, where as the player we are after would have very much been part of the squad going forward (if Gretna could go forward.)

Now seeing as it past 14:00 the wee teamers won't be allowed to reply as no doubt smartfilter or websense policies kick in and they aren't allowed.

What do you call a bus full of hobo's at the bottom of the sea ?

a) - A good start

or

B) - A myth as there has never been a bus full of hobo's
32

Rolland,

20/05/2008 14:13:26
Fredster - My tea's cold, fresh one now please, milk and two and make it quick sunshine !
33

Lenny,

20/05/2008 14:15:57
Rolland

You really dont know much about football do you? Canning was released as he was one of the highest earners at the club. Yantorno likewise at a later date. You see, it may have escaped you limited attention but Gretna have been experiencing some financial problems just now. Releasing players is one way to try and combat this.

To say that Canning and Yantorno are not good enough for Gretna just proves you are

a) A bawbag
b) stupid.
c) A stupid bawbag.

I know what one my moneys on!
34

hibbyspurs,

20/05/2008 14:17:07
#31

OK Rolland let me be serious with you for a moment.

Hasnt it occured to you that the players Hibs hav/ are looking to sign were in fact released by Gretna because the club could no longer afford their wages?

Perhaps you overlook this point as your too naive in the ways of how a business facing liquidation works.... They have to reduce their overheads in an effor to become solvent.... Players such as Canning & Yantorno would undoubtely have been at the higher end of the wage scale at Gretna and most likely released to reduce the wage bill.

Sorry if trying to understand this simple concept has you suffering from a migrane for the rest of the week.
35

hibbyspurs,

20/05/2008 14:18:09
#33 FFS Lenny, you beat me to it.....
36

Rambo_the_Jambo,

Edinburgh 20/05/2008 14:26:13
Just because a player played for Gretna, it doesn't automatically follow that they are no good.

The player Hearts will be 'assessing' (not SIGNING) hasn't played a full game for Gretna.

Perhaps Hearts are hoping to find a potentially good goalscorer in an untried centre forward. After all he is only 21.

Don't know anything about the one Hibs signed.
37

Johnny Jambo,

20/05/2008 14:31:09
Guys it happens all the time a club goesd to the wall, some of their players are signed by other clubs and sometimes not, but all clubs in Scotland will have had a look at the players on Gertna's books to see if there were any worth signing and some will be.

Just because Gretna are relegated doesn't mean they do not have some good players on their books.
38

Lenny,

20/05/2008 14:35:10
hibbyspurs

Haha, Hibee minds think alike I guess.

See thats Hibs confirmed to play Barca now. Im not really sure about it to be honest. We have Boro, Wigan and Barca as well as the Inter Toto. I hope its not a game too many.
39

We love fitba,

google! 20/05/2008 14:42:26
So, today the Jambos are bragging because they are looking to sign better players from Gretna than Hibs did? They are better because Gretna hadn't released them prior to going bust?

Dear oh dear, desperate times down in Gorgie. You people want to look at yourselves, you are becoming more ridiculous by the day.
40

Johnny Jambo,

20/05/2008 14:51:09
#39, don't think we are bragging mate but we hope that these players turn out to be ok same as you guys do.
41

Bigwull,

edinburgh 20/05/2008 15:01:49
jeeze the hibs support must have been kaking it "Hibs squad to have a summer swim" hobos and water dont go
42

Youngie the hibee,

20/05/2008 15:07:52
The thing is with all these new signings for hibs, is that we are increasing the depth of pool to a reasonable amount which means come mid-season next season hibs will not suffer the torment of having to drag in reserves to replace first team players so hibs should not 'trim' the squad because we are bringing in good players not like our almost bankrupt friends across the city GGTTH!
43

Youngie the hibee,

20/05/2008 15:08:33
HEARTS LOST TO GRETNA!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
44

Fredster.,

20/05/2008 15:12:32
Sorry Rolland,

Been making tea all afternoon, just let me know where you are buddy and i'll bring yours round a.s.a.p!

Just to let you know mate i'm 30 not 13 unlike yourself.. Don't you mind people laughing at you? or ripping you to shreads because you never post anything worth reading. Right now since you think your team is so great can you please list some things that are more of a benefit to play for Hearts than Hibs? Your club have a very uncertain future, the debt is huge, you could end up selling the ground! just 3 of a number of things. So again please remind me why Hearts are so great. Sorry to all the other Hearts fans on here who post some good threads but this boy really is a embarrassment to your club.

45

Rolland,

20/05/2008 15:16:31
No we are not bragging about signing better quality of players its a fact that we do. What we are laughing and bragging about if you like is that Hibs are looking to add quality according to the article, yet your trying to sign a guy from newtongrange FFS now that is hardly going to give you quality certainly as a Jambo I would not be happy if we set our sights on that standard of quality !!!

Anyway Fredster will be round shortly with my afternoon cuppa.

#42 Your not increasing the depth of the pool read the article your decreasing squad numbers in an attempt to add quality although that is newtongrange quality.
46

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20/05/2008 15:16:36
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47

Johnny Jambo,

20/05/2008 15:17:51
#43 - just goes to show that Hearts and Hibs are right to have a look at some of their players then isn't it????
48

Johnny Jambo,

20/05/2008 15:19:49
Rolland, I think you need to read your History, Hearts made one of their best ever signings from Newtongrange Star, Davy MacKay, there is nothing wrong with signing players from Junior cluybs sometimes they turn out to gems.

Incidentally have you seen the player?
49

Rolland,

20/05/2008 15:24:22
Fredster - How many times has it been said the debt is of no concern it is manageable I don't want to have to explain it to you again, it is not a concern. You say the mighty JT's have an uncertain future ? - only in your world it would appear. The debt is huge, compared to yours with your turnover it is, compared to a club of our size it isn't, compared to Man Utd's its loose change.

Hearts are so great because we have ambition, provide a challenge to the old firm (something you won't have seen Hibs do in your 30 years). Hibs will never do much other than make up the numbers sometimes you won't even do that 1998 for example when you went to the 1st Division for a while. You see makes a difference depending on the spin you put on it.
50

Rolland,

20/05/2008 15:26:52
#48 JJ - Very different times then though, football has changed a bit since then.

Poor example as it isn't relevant in the modern game, Ivan Sproule is probably the best modern day example, and he was gash.

Shame on you JJ, sucking up to the hobos.
51

Prof,

20/05/2008 15:32:11
#49 Your'e wasting your time. Hibbies think turnover means moving around in bed.

It will be interesting to see how many supporters turn out at Murrayfield for the Barca game. I see a few Hibbie posters got in early with their excuses for what is sure to be a low crowd compared to last yaer.
52

Johnny Jambo,

20/05/2008 15:34:42
#50 Rolland - I was not sucking up to the hobo's I was trying to point out that clubs sign players from all sorts of different sources and that Hearts have signed players from the same club who have been a great success, there have been others since Dave Mackay of course but he was one of the best.
I also think it is relevant to the modern game, because as you rightly say the game has changed, but it has not only changed at one level, it has changed at every level and Juniors are more professional than they were all those years ago.

I would rather sign players from Nitten that clubs like Kaunas having seen the quality coming from that area.
53

Prof,

20/05/2008 15:45:00
#52 It was easier to sign players from junior teams in the 50's and 60's because scouting was much less sophisticated then. Its considerably more diffcult now as most youngsters with talent are signed up by the age of 12.
As a result Vlad's East european connection are important for sourcing players.
54

Lenny,

20/05/2008 15:48:37
Posters like Rolland and Prof almost make me want Hearts to go bust. They come across as so stupid, they really dont deserve a football club to support. Its just all about petty point-scoring with them.

Luckily there are posters like Johnny Jambo, TH&T, Chas & Vic etc who actually have points to make and are just football fans like us Hibees. For that I only hope you get relegated : )
55

Rolland,

20/05/2008 15:53:31
Lenny - We don't do relegation we leave that to the hobos.

Is that a good enough point to make you !

And the Hobo's can't talk after one of you pretended for 18 months to be Lithuian and even spoke ill of his own supporters. So don't have a go at anyone about making a point ya hobo plum.
56

Prof,

20/05/2008 16:00:19
#54 Typical of you to resort to insults rather than challenge the facts.
Try reading JamboKick back - then you will see how representative JJ and his mates are. Anyway isn't Vic your pseudonym.
57

Lenny,

20/05/2008 16:00:24
rolland

Christ do you know NOTHING? Hearts have been relegated from the Premier League more times than Hibs. And once you didnt even manage to get promoted straight away. Hearts dont do relegation? Yeah right!!!

Why dont you go and buy a wee book on your teams history. Becouse you really dont seem to know much at all.
58

Lenny,

20/05/2008 16:02:45
prof

Now please enlighten me, why would Vic be my pseudonym?

I wasnt insulting either, I said you and Rolland come across as stupid. That is pretty plain for anyone to see.

And I would rather sell my sister to a pimp than than read kickback!
59

Rolland,

20/05/2008 16:06:11
Oh Lenny, lucky for you I am operating a catch and release policy today.

Just for the record Hearts have competed more in the SPL than Hibs, infact for the 1st year of the SPL the Hobo's weren't even there.

Oh and that wee book you talk about Lenny, its got the scottish cup (in colour) in it. Now away and polish your points.
60

Prof,

20/05/2008 16:08:40
#58 Lenny I'm afraid you're the stupid one - you rise to the bait everytime.
Anyway the season and this forum is over for the break. Have good summer. This way to jambo kickback for all the real news...........................>
61

Rambo_the_Jambo,

Edinburgh 20/05/2008 16:09:15
# 57 Lenny

If my memory serves me right, haven't Hearts and Hibs each been relegated twice from the PL?.

Only difference is we took two seasons to come back the second time.
62

Rambo_the_Jambo,

Edinburgh 20/05/2008 16:10:09
.......or maybe I have counted the old league set up as one of them.
63

Rolland,

20/05/2008 16:11:12
Prof - Its a closed shop on these here boards, don't agree with the status quo and they resort to name calling, then tell you things like (I am 30 and not 13) when you respond in a similar fashion.

Lenny - Surprised you haven't already pimped your sister.
64

Lenny,

20/05/2008 16:11:19
Rambo, I stand corrected then mate. I thought you got relegated 3 times and spent 4 years in 1st Div.

Sure you see what my point was though.
65

Lenny,

20/05/2008 16:14:26
Prof,

If your a regular contributor to Kickback then I shouldnt really be surprised by your postings.

66

Rambo_the_Jambo,

Edinburgh 20/05/2008 16:21:40
Lenny, cheers m8. Actually can't remember now, I have kind of lost the plot, too much garbage being posted.
67

Johnny Jambo,

20/05/2008 16:24:43
Lenny, Rambo, easy to check though isn't it.

However i don't think it matters too much we are bothpretty similar in that area.
68

Lenny,

20/05/2008 16:40:17
JJ

That was my point mate. I know Hibs getting relegated twice from the Premier League is not exactly good. But Rolland didnt seem to realise that the same has happened to Hearts. Kids eh!
69

Fredster.,

20/05/2008 16:42:37
#67

Agree with that, both clubs have been relegated a couple of times.. Lets be honest here its what happens in the future that counts not the past tho. Also Rolland my tubby wee friend, i called you 13 as you were posting stuff on here my nephew wouldn't even think of, he's 13 by the way. Your points don't have any meaning, Hearts have a debt that you can manage? Your having a laugh.. Well for one ask any honest hearts fan and they will tell you its crzy for a club your size having that debt.

Also this "they are taking the bait gash", you only say these things because you know we make sense and you don't end off. Honest guys grow up over the summer and come back with some stuff we can have a chat about instead of these child games you love playing so much.
70

Lenny,

20/05/2008 16:47:41
JJ

That was my point mate. I know Hibs getting relegated twice from the Premier League is not exactly good. But Rolland didnt seem to realise that the same has happened to Hearts. Kids eh!
71

Indie Rep Kid,

20/05/2008 16:54:29
Lenny,

if you think Frail is a puppet, you should see the strings being pulled all over kickback

"give Vlad one more season"

"it's ALL Frail's fault"

"Vlad will deliver"

"McGhee is definite - Deco possible"

painful to read
72

Lenny,

20/05/2008 16:57:51
Indie Rep Kid

Yeah mate, iv seen links on Hibs.net. I find it quite incredible really. I think that must surely be more in hope than expectation.
73

Fredster.,

20/05/2008 17:02:21
I heard Mcghee has walked from the deal after being told he will only have 80% of team affairs and was not allowed to bring in his back room staff.
74

Rolland,

20/05/2008 17:13:18
Lenny the point I was making was Hibs have been in the SPL less than Hearts. Hearts have never missed a season in the SPL Hibs on the other have.

As for Fredster at 69 - Clearly the debt is manageable otherwise we would no longer be trading (see Gretna) so I have no requirement to ask another fan or supporters of any clubs. The debt situation is being addressed and is managable, you hobos need to get over the fact that Hearts have cash to splash and whilst the sort of figures we have ran up in debt would have seen all but the Old Firm, probably go out of business and move on, yes were a richer club, but there are other clubs richer than us you need to learn to live with that fact and stop trying to predict x, y, and z. I mean how many times did hobos.net and gaylords bounce have us going bust in Jan 08 ?

As for the relegation, when was the last time it happened to Hearts over a generation ago, and when did it last happen to Hibs (painful memories eh guys). Nuff said in recent times Hearts have won two scottish cups and completed in teh Champions League (not by invitation), Hibs have been relegated and won the CIS Cup. Compare and discuss then.....
75

Fredster.,

20/05/2008 17:21:43
Ok Rolland Hearts can manage t5he debt better than Gretna, Correct me if i'm wrong but Gretna owner had the cash and left, if Vlad goes can you still manage the debt? Please tell me they can so i can laugh myself to sleep.

On the facts side of things your spot on for once, Hearts have won 2 scottish cups and deserved them. we won the CIS i know its not the Scottish and believe me thats the one i would love to see Hibs have done well in the cups just can't win it, How many cups have you won in 50 years? is it the same as Hibs? I could be wrong but i thought both teams have won 3 cups in 50 years. So you can't really brag can you. Again its all about the future and when it goes Pete Tong can you give me a phone so i can sit and laugh at you.
76

Rolland,

20/05/2008 17:36:42
Fredster - If Vlad walks then it is upto the bank to continue to provide the facility if they call it in then no the debt isn't managable. Now as Vlad has a stake in the bank then who knows what would happen. We could attempt to get funding from a UK based bank (just giving an example) although as it was previously being called in by a UK bank this would seem even more unlikely under the current market conditions. So we are only fooked if Vlad walks and the bank call in the debt.

Suppose Tom Farmer sells Hibs, new owner borrows 20 mil to mount a challenge to OF secured against ER, do you think that is managable ?

All I'm getting its some pretty big IF's and BUTS this is all based on. As things currently stand Hearts debt isn't a problem, that is not to say it won't be a problem in the future, at the moment it isn't though and the Hibees on here need to accept that.
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Fredster.,

20/05/2008 17:45:51
Finally your making some sense, your right it is all if's and but's.. I can see what your saying that until the go out of business then Hearts will carry on. I would be gutted if Farmer sold to a vlad type and in this day and age there is a few out there.

I don't think Hibs would manage either, Edinburgh clubs are just not big enough. Hearts are a huge club i won't deny that but i just have a feeling it could go wrong and that would be a sad day for Edinburgh. Its different for the old firm they have the fan base and the glory hunters but lets be honest we don't. See you can have a decent conversation i'm in shock!
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Rolland,

20/05/2008 17:49:58
Fredster

Unfortunately Hearts have a number of glory hunters that jumped on the vlad wagon back when Burley was in charge (oh how long ago that seems). I think we gained about 4 or 5 fans in the that spell, certainly ones that attended games.

No one knows what Vlads next move will be..... he is just so differnet to anything we have seen before on these shores.
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Mike D W,

20/05/2008 17:50:37
It seems that some lesser lights on here seem to think that when clubs like Hibs and Hearts sign a player from a team below them in the league, then that player must be gash.

This is obviously not true. Many great players for both clubs have started in the lower leagues. (Webster came from Arbroath, Durie from East Fife, for example).

Therefore, all this 'Gretna reject' nonsense is just pathetic.

Both clubs would like to bringing in new players from clubs above them in the league, but only if these add quality to the squad (O'Brien came from Newcastle remember).

Obviously, Hearts have more chance of bringing in players from teams above them than Hibs as there are more clubs for them to chose from.
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Fredster.,

20/05/2008 17:55:38
Agree he is a different kettle of fish, i have to admit i loved it when he was having a go at the SFA fair play to him for that.

I think every team has the glory hunters look at the CIS cup final, the won we lost (face red) to livvi 38,000 where are these fans on a sat? Anyway cheers for talking about the football side of things.
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just a jambo,

20/05/2008 20:48:01
diddyspurs was working in a bar in dublin, bublin walks in on his way to work with his piece bag diddy thinks he can hear a noise, he puts his ear to bublins bag and says is that ticking, bublin says no its ham.
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Jambo83,

West Lothian 21/05/2008 09:50:50
I rate Van Zanten, he's always impressed when i've seen St Mirren. Not so sure about Yantorno, possibly another Miko, on his day he can be a right wee menace to defenders, but doesn't do it often enough.
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edinbob,

21/05/2008 10:19:46
Cant compare Miko to Yantorno think Yantorno has proved to be a better player than miko in a worse team with less games aswell.

 

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