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Published Date:
10 January 2008
HEARTS were today bracing themselves to resist Rangers' advances for their first-choice goalkeeper Steve Banks, who is wanted as understudy to Allan McGregor at Ibrox.
Rangers have yet to make a formal offer for Banks but manager Walter Smith is ready to act on the recommendation of his goalkeeping coach Jim Stewart, a former Tynecastle employee.
TARGET: Steve Banks
TARGET: Steve Banks

Smith's second-choice goalkeeper, Roy Carroll, has a verbal agreement in place to join English Premier League club Derby County and the need for experienced cover has turned the attention towards Banks. Graeme Smith remains third choice at Ibrox.

Hearts are reluctant to lose the veteran Banks with only the erratic pair of Anthony Basso and Eduardas Kurskis as back-up. The Englishman's contract expires at the end of the season but he is likely to welcome any offer from Ibrox as his 36th birthday approaches.

Any potential transfer could be delayed due to the fact that Pedro Lopez, deputy chief executive at Tynecastle, is currently on holiday and isn't expected back until next week.

Meanwhile, Hearts striker Mauricio Pinilla was due in London today to consult a specialist on the knee ligament damage which has ended his season. Should the Chilean striker require an operation, it will be performed in Santiago by the respected surgeon Alejandro Orizola.

Pinilla's relationship with Orizola dates back to his formative years with Universidad de Chile, and he is adamant that only the Chilean surgeon will be entrusted with the task of repairing his right knee.

"I will operate with doctor Orizola in Chile, one of the best in the world, and I expect to return," said Pinilla.

Ricardo Pinilla, the player's father, admits that surgery is likely. "Up to now, what has been reported to me is that it is more feasible to have an operation," he explained.

"Mauricio has accepted this, he has shown a great maturity and knows that has to continue ahead. He knows that these things occur. These negative things help him grow as a man.

"He feels thanks to the people of Hearts.

"Mauricio has in this club a deal that he never had in any team, he is very grateful and wants to return all this investment to Hearts like he knows how to – playing and scoring goals."

Hearts are nursing concerns over winger Andy Driver for this weekend's Scottish Cup match with Motherwell. Caretaker manager Stephen Frail revealed: "Driver will be touch and go but we'll give him every possible chance to be available.

"Marius (Zaliukas] is available after suspension but it's whether or not he's ok after his injury.

"Michael Stewart will come back into contention, as will Lee Wallace, so we're pretty much back to full strength with what we've had over the last few weeks.

"I've got my thoughts on the weekend. It's important that everyone who does come into the team is ready for it."



The full article contains 489 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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1

Gorgie Forever,

10/01/2008 12:10:34
#2

With you on the Zaliukas front. If he plays again then my mind will be made up on Frail's inability to cope with the managers job. The guy is a total bombscare and shouldn't wear the jersey ever again.

I really hope Banks stays but would understand if he fancied leaving.
2

victor ian,

10/01/2008 12:16:12
gtf rankers / weegy press.

3

Anglo Jambo,

Chorley 10/01/2008 12:19:24
After statement about appointing manager with full control I saw a glimmer of light at end of tunnel, the glimmer is still there but tunnel is longer than I imagined. Based on their performances with Hearts how many of the following would get a trial with Auchermuchty, Kurkis, Benni useless, Barasa and who is that other Lithy midfielder who has gone now. Others will remember more than me.
4

GrahamL,

10/01/2008 12:25:42
#5 I said shortly after the manager statement came out that, for this to work, we need a new manager by the end of this week - to give the new guy a chance to run the rule over the current squad, then identify and sign decent players before the end of the transfer window.
I remain sceptical than anything is going to change - it feels like another smokescreen - but it now looks like, even if Vlad does do the right thing it'll be too late to make the blindest bit of difference to our season...
5

All Laugh Son,

Edinburgh 10/01/2008 12:29:02
Couldn't blame Banks if he left - should never have been dropped for Basso or Kurkis.

That said, I would be looking to get a better keeper than Banks in - he's good backup but not a first choice (other than at the moment).

There has been strong rumours of Utd's keeper coming to us so maybe there is something in that.
6

Chas Niceass,

10/01/2008 12:31:41
Reject the bid for Banks and offer Kurskis instead, Smiths face would be a picture I'm sure!
Zaliukas is well off form, totally, but he did have a good spell with Berra last season, but its disintegrated.
Most importantly though, why for goodness sake is Pedro Lopez on holiday during the transfer window?
7

Gorgie's Finest,

10/01/2008 12:32:24
No formal offer made and no admission as yet from Rangers they intend making an offer.

Another example of pi55 poor journalism, and as was talked about yesterday on these forums another example of how the weegie press use the media to tap players.

TBh i don't think Banks would go anyway if they were to make an offer. He's now instilled as first choice again, why would he want to move to a club where he will always be second choice.
8

Gorgie Forever,

10/01/2008 12:34:32
#5,6

Agree completely. I was suspicious of the original statement on the website but was willing to take it at face value. It looks like a lot of smoke and mirrors and the cynic in me says its just another way to divert away from potential protests etc.

I see your point about needing a new manager quickly but a hasty choice could be an absolute disaster given the current circumstances.

9

Pedantic_Hibee,

10/01/2008 12:35:25
1) I thought Zaliukas was the bees knees ? What has he done to deserve the panelling he's receiving ?

2) With Banks being out of contract at the end of the season, expect him to sign a pre-contract if he wants to go. That means you'll have him until the end of the season but given Vlad's propensity for dispensing with any player who feels has split loyalty, Banks may have played his last game for the club.

3) Chas is right, why is Pedro Lopez on holiday at this time ? Mental.
10

GrahamL,

10/01/2008 12:35:32
#7 Agree, he's the best keeper we've got just now - but should be more a "dependable back up" than a first choice. When they made him coach we should have brought in a new keeper - in fact, when CG went we should have started the search for a quality replacement. Our team was built on a top class goalie, and there was always the danger we'd struggle if we didn't have someone as reliable.
We should now be in the market for a keeper, but as I said before, the new manager should come first. I did think it was interesting that the EEN said "any potential transfer could be delayed due to the fact that Pedro Lopez, deputy chief executive at Tynecastle, is currently on holiday and isn't expected back until next week". One would have assumed that any potential transfer should be delayed because we're still looking for a real manager...

By the way, disappointingly quiet here today - should be a hobo free zone this afternoon, since they've got some real news of their own. A rare chance to have a sensible discussion about our club...
11

Johnny Jambo,

10/01/2008 12:39:47
Lets be honest, if we get offered money for Banks we will sell. And Banks would go. He is not wanted by Romanov so why would he not accept any bid for him, although as someone earlier said there has been no offer as yet.
12

Graham Rix ate my hamster,

10/01/2008 12:40:55
Thanks for that Barry.

A little bit of digging around at Tynecastle would have given more to the story, rathan than re-printing what was in the tabloids this morning.

Have a lollypop!
13

Chas Niceass,

10/01/2008 12:41:49
#13 Quite, How ironic if we beat Mixu 6-2 in 9 days time! A pipe dream alas
14

Backofthenet,

10/01/2008 12:43:13
"gtf rankers / weegy press" (4)

The Scotsman???
15

Lenny,

10/01/2008 12:44:57
Why are all the Jambos so gloom? What happened to all the good-feeling after that fantastic draw against Kilmarnock? Thought everything was rosey again...
16

Conran,

Husref Musemic's twin brother 10/01/2008 12:45:43
#8 Agree with you Chas, why Perdo has gone on his hols when we are 'supposedly' trying to get a new manager in while also trying to get rid of a few players and a couple more on board?? It stinks of the crazies to me but perhaps we should all be used to the smell of sh@@te by now!

The moth (#10) is also bang on the money, I hope, with this Banks story. West Coast trying to create an issue, no real evidence of interest anywhere. We have an absolute need for Banksy right now. Can you imagine if he and Velika left? We really would have a fight on our hands.... With Gretna!
17

Willie Pettigrew,

Edinburgh 10/01/2008 12:48:18
This confirms one part of a rumour I heard today. I was told Banks will sign for Rangers. Also the same person says Hearts will go into administration 18th Jan and will be deducted 10 points. Hope its all just a rumour.
18

Media Scotland,

10/01/2008 12:50:57
Big Sam is top of Romanovs managers list now he has left Newcastle. Due to the compensation package he received he is willing to take a wage cut to re-establish his career in Scotland.

Come on Romanov, where is that manager you promised us? January is nearly over and signings need to be made or else 11th spot is ours?

Big Sam for the Big Team.
19

Media Scotland,

10/01/2008 12:50:58
Big Sam is top of Romanovs managers list now he has left Newcastle. Due to the compensation package he received he is willing to take a wage cut to re-establish his career in Scotland.

Come on Romanov, where is that manager you promised us? January is nearly over and signings need to be made or else 11th spot is ours?

Big Sam for the Big Team.
20

Media Scotland,

10/01/2008 12:50:59
Big Sam is top of Romanovs managers list now he has left Newcastle. Due to the compensation package he received he is willing to take a wage cut to re-establish his career in Scotland.

Come on Romanov, where is that manager you promised us? January is nearly over and signings need to be made or else 11th spot is ours?

Big Sam for the Big Team.
21

GatesheadMan,

10/01/2008 12:51:21
My biggest worry here is the following.

a. We are second bottom of the league

b. It is the transfer window

c. We need POedro Lopez's OK to sign anyone

d. HE'S CHOSEN NOW TO GO ON HOLIDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Doesanyone else wonder what exactly we are trying to do to improve things????

Seriously worried, and tired of travelling up from NE Eng to watc this rubbish.
22

Johnny Jambo,

10/01/2008 12:55:53
#21 Wilie that Rumour was started by the Gretna fans, 10 points loss would give them a chance to catch us and then they might stay up.
23

Gorgie's Finest,

10/01/2008 12:58:06
#21
Willie the rumour of us going into administration is just that, it started over a week ago on hibs.net and since then it has snowballed into every hobo believing so and each day a new date is given to when this will happen. We were told it was going to be today, then told by the end of this week. As each date passes another is given. It's all absolute tosh, The banks thing could be read online from about midnight last night in the daily ranger, and was in this mornings paper. Just because someone reads something and passesit on dont make it true, its a rumour started in the media, not from a friend of yours
24

GrahamL,

10/01/2008 12:58:39
Do we actually need Lopez involved in all our transfers, or is it just wild speculation from the EEN?
Besides, if Rangers really wanted Banks then they just sign him on a pre-contract surely? They can then start negotiation for an early transfer ala Riordon - or loan someone in for 6 months. This feels like the usual "disrupt Hearts before an OF game" ploy from the west, but we're not playing the OF this weekend - but I guess it'd be another moral victory for "proper football" if we lose to Motherwell on saturday...

Regardless, we need a manager, and soon.
25

Taras Shevchenko,

10/01/2008 13:00:40
#15 Graham Rix ate my hamster - loved the Kojack reference.

Good to see the OF not getting what they want AGAIN (ref John Murray) - I'm not expecting any transfer in news until the last week if not minutes.

I'm more than happy for Hearts to get in an under-study for Banks and play Banks for the next couple of seasons EVERY GAME HE IS AVAILABLE, he can show his understudy how its done. I wouldn't mind him being made captain either.
26

GrahamL,

10/01/2008 13:01:01
#21 I heard the rumour from a Hibee at New Years, when the date was the 14th. It is odd though, most companies don't give 2 weeks notice of going into administration...
27

GatesheadMan,

10/01/2008 13:06:00
GrhamL, I'm not sure it matters if he has to be there (although I think he does). No senior member oft he HMFC lot should be on hols now!
28

Gorgie's Finest,

10/01/2008 13:08:14
#31 The senior members at HMFC have been on holiday all season.
29

revsween,

10/01/2008 13:08:54
Disrupt hearts before an old firm game although your not playing the old firm,ploy from the west?Thats the kind of paranoic p1sh that normaly comes out of the Stade Nonce ,you sure your a Jambo?
30

revsween,

10/01/2008 13:10:03
28graham L post 33 was for you
31

GrahamL,

10/01/2008 13:10:20
#31 To be honest, I don't know what Lopez does at the club. If he does contract negotiations, then yes, he should be there - otherwise I would have thought he could give his approval by phone. Or the actual chief exec could, rather than the deputy.
Ultimately, it's all immaterial - we know who makes all the decisions, and it's neither of them!
32

sangriaboy,

malaga 10/01/2008 13:12:51
If rangers want a goalie,ive heard theres one at sunderland whos been struggling like mad since he arrived afew months ago.

Everton want him to stay though!
33

busbyfh,

10/01/2008 13:14:21
# 2

How brave of you to come on these boards to state that you are changing your sexual preferences.

# 8
Make it a two for one deal - Take Kurskis and you get Basso free.

# 12

Zaliukas has been hopeless all season and has in the last couple of months cost us Many goals through either balls ups or just plain bad positioning and poor tackles.

If Lopez really is on holiday during the wheeling and dealing window .......... How professional is that ?
He is the deal man - things do not progress without Pedro. If true that he is away - FARCE.
34

Chas Niceass,

10/01/2008 13:16:03
On reflection perhaps the Lopez holiday line is a distraction.
He's actually in South America buying up all the Argentine talent and convincing Ossie Ardiles 5 up front wasn't that bad an idea after all?
35

GrahamL,

10/01/2008 13:16:17
#34 Was it? Thanks for that.
I've no idea what it meant though, so I'll assume it's more of your moronic ramblings about alleged child abuse. Jog on.
36

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10/01/2008 13:20:46
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37

revsween,

10/01/2008 13:25:39
39#No idea eh,your post was rambling on about west coast ploys to disrupt Hearts .I assumed the Celtic Family had a monopoly on paranoia but seems not.
Alledged ???????????? child abuse
38

Arnie,

Newington 10/01/2008 13:26:05
Why on earth would we take £50k for our first choice keeper? Makes you wonder what planet Rangers are on.
39

Jambo-ree,

10/01/2008 13:27:55
#14 Johnny - I think Vlad does want Banks to stay but as a coach and not as a player. I've got no time for Kurskis but wouldn't be so quick to give up on Basso. Yes, he made a mistake that cost us but seem to recall CG doing something similar against ra Sellick in the recent past. All players make mistakes but IMHO Basso did seem to be coming on to a game before that incident. We could always recall young McDonald - he must be around the same age as CG was when made his first team debut.

As for Lopez shuffling off on holiday, well let's hope he hasn't and that's just a disinformation line the Club has fed to the EEN. As #38 says, maybe, just maybe, he's off somewhere on signing duties?
40

Homeboy,

10/01/2008 13:37:28
Excuse me !! No way are Hearts a selling club !!
41

roseburn jambo,

10/01/2008 13:41:32
#40 just how sad are you, youre club signs a new manager and you come on here spouting rubbish,you must be one of these folk wow it is in the daily ranker it must be true why not go on your own site and talk with your wee pals about your new teacher
42

Lord Psycho Sexy,

10/01/2008 13:43:44
Everyone and their dug has the exclusive on Hearts going into administration on 11,12,13,14,15,16,17 and now 18 January.

Yet the papers haven't picked it up?

Complete and utter tripe.

43

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 10/01/2008 13:46:53
Johnny Jambo now on the Hibs manager thread saying how well Hibs have done to beat Hearts to a manager!!!!

Come on JJ, make it less obvious where your allegiances lie.
44

Taras Shevchenko,

10/01/2008 13:49:46
#47 That's doesn't sound like the Original Johnny Jambo, which is a bit creepy, someone cloning a name of a hearts fan that used to post on here.
45

roseburn jambo,

10/01/2008 13:50:47
#46 seem to remember reading it on here from some hobo back in begining of december wishfull thinking on there part
46

roseburn jambo,

10/01/2008 13:52:26
#48 but are all there fans not clones anyway
47

Northern Hibby.,

10/01/2008 13:54:26
I know a team that would give Rangers two keepers just now and a third when he comes back off loan, and not charge any money.
48

carrottop,

10/01/2008 13:56:14
Should be able to get Craig Gordon back for half the price we sold him for when Sunderland go down at the end of the season.
49

victor ian,

10/01/2008 13:57:51
i find it useful to have the hobos around on here. they obviously know far more about hearts than us so it's good to get info from them
50

busbyfh,

10/01/2008 13:59:25
# 43
Sorry , but Basso has made plenty balls ups - not all leading to goals , but the guy is a total disaster.

# 47
Agreed - JonnyJambo is a hoser of the highest order - And some folk still cannot see it.



BAnderson - Is this the pinnacle of your lazy journalism campaign ?
Do you just cut and paste ????? At least try and re-jig this old made up Weegie news - or , here is a revalation - Actually do some work yourself and attempt to acquire some real information pertaining to "your" article's subject.
51

Newcastle Jambo,

10/01/2008 14:07:56
Jonny Jambo is one of the few people with any consistency and integrity who post here and I normally agree with his views. There's no need for your childish school girl remarks. My endorsement is the last thing he needs though!
52

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10/01/2008 14:08:33
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53

Woodster,

Weegiland 10/01/2008 14:10:03
You Jambos are serioulsy deluded and your team are a joke £5 for the old guy.
54

GrahamL,

10/01/2008 14:13:24
#54 to be fair to Bandy, he did phone up Pinilla's dad. Some people would have just taken the quote from the player, but he's gone straight to his contacts book to get his Dads number!
And he seems to have tried to call up Pedro, only to be told he's on holiday - maybe that's where the whole tale came from:
"Hello, it's Barry Anderson from the EEN here, can I speak to Pedro Lopez?"
(comedy spanish accent) "Meester lopeth? aah noo, he not here today. He holiday"
"Oh, right do you know when he'll be back?"
"Si si, he back next week."
"When?"
"Eh, next week, next week. You call back next week. Bye!"
55

True Jambo,

10/01/2008 14:19:13
banks won't go as an understudy he's been doing that at hearts for long enough
56

HIBSBY,

Tesco in Tynecastle 10/01/2008 14:19:16
no manager, Lopez on holiday, dont know about selling Banks but it dont look like "mad vlad" is going to allow Steve "Puppet" Frail any new signings.
57

Bhoyed,

10/01/2008 14:33:10
#59 for double your wages at 36 years old? wake up and smell the coffee!
58

Media Scotland,

10/01/2008 14:36:47
Anyone else heard the rumour of Romanov meeting with Big Sam this morning?

"After 2 years, Vladimir Romanov has finally delivered on his promise - a big name manager. The chairman revealed new boss Sam Allardyce at a Riccarton earlier this morning following the Englishmans departure from Newcastle only 24 hours ago.

The former Bolton and Newcastle boss gave just a brief statement at the press conference earlier and revealed his delight at being offered such a challenging job at club he considers to have more potential than his previous club.

His former assistant at Bolton, Sammy Lee, is expected to join him along with his vast scouting network and sports scientists. Rumours have also started circulating about an approach for bad boy Joey Barton and Newcastles back up keeper Howard.



Mr Romanov continued by stating that this latest appointment was a signal of Hearts ambition and stated that then new manager would have full control of the squad and transfers."
59

All Laugh Son,

Edinburgh 10/01/2008 14:42:30
It just goes to show how desperate Hibs fans are to get rid of us. It's the only chance they stand. If the shoe were on the other foot, I'd be gutted at Hibs going bust.

60

brettgallacher,

edinburgh 10/01/2008 14:43:01
why would rangers want a 35 old goalie im sure they were enquiring about tynie as a training ground for when mad vlad sells you down the river
61

brettgallacher,

edinburgh 10/01/2008 14:43:31
fact hearts in admin on 14th jan
62

Prof,

10/01/2008 14:51:37
#65 Last week it was the 10th now the 14th.
Did u stay up all night waiting for Santa to come?
63

Pedantic_Hibee,

10/01/2008 14:52:15
#62

You're a sad little fella, aren't you ?

64

brettgallacher,

edinburgh 10/01/2008 14:52:40
what you meant was the hearts players were at fat sams eating all the pies
65

brettgallacher,

edinburgh 10/01/2008 14:54:31
prof it is the 14th jan because that is the last date you can avoid ten point deduction
66

brettgallacher,

edinburgh 10/01/2008 14:55:11
and i got that from a jambo who works for kmpg
67

SouthSideHibs,

10/01/2008 14:59:02
Banks won't be off to the Gers, Hearts aren't an OF feeder club.

Remember the Wee Team are a feeder club, the Big Team have a feeder club.
68

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 10/01/2008 14:59:05
#70. You don't even know who the accountants are - KMPG indeed, what a tool!

69

Sardonic Jambo,

10/01/2008 14:59:12
#62 yeah i heard that rumour too. i take it you also visited www.absolutebollocks.co.uk/yerafanny?
70

Ancient Hibee,

edinburgh 10/01/2008 15:01:45
Understand Uncle Walter was actually desperate to sign Zibi somebody or other but a deal could not be arranged.I think it will make a nonsense of Frail's position if Banks, who is obviously the best Hearts goalie by far,is sold by Romanov.
71

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 10/01/2008 15:02:33
#55. Not surprised to see you back JJ, you two are not Hearts fans. You both spend all your time praying for bad news from Tynecastle, you are both sick.
72

The Gorgie Boys Are In Town,

10/01/2008 15:05:47
beyond belief these thick hobo trumpets
Not even a half decent effort of a wind up, only the braindead and slavering type would believe that the Hearts are going into bankrupcy.

Just for a sureal moment though, let's say it did happen. Hearts would still exist as Motherwell and Livingston have so they are so stupid as to think that they can get rid of us like that.
No surprises on that score though.
73

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 10/01/2008 15:08:16
#24. Get a grip! It is the 10th of January, just over a week since Hearts announced that we are searching for a manager. A short list has been drawn up this week.
74

scorchio,

kirkcaldy 10/01/2008 15:14:01
Two things that go together =Hard Ball & Romanov, so Rangers won't be getting any January sales bargains from us.
Another two things that go together=Myth & Hibernian FC
75

Prof,

10/01/2008 15:15:16
#77 exactly. How many jambos would be pleased to see Mixu as Hearts new manager?
76

Black Five,

edinburgh 10/01/2008 15:15:31
Another shambles.Lopez on holiday,left with two huddies for keepers,no credible manager,no new signings,still got the likes of Elliot,Miko and the rest of the garbage.This is Hearts 2008 and it stinks right rotten.The team does not deserve the loyal support of the fans and it`s about time you all woke up to this fact.It`s first division stuff right now you had better believe.Dump the madman accross the water ,Elton must have named that song with him in mind,and let`s try and bring sanity back.
77

Black Five,

edinburgh 10/01/2008 15:17:24
Comment 79 ,I`d rather see one of the P G Tips monkeys as manager than put up any longer with this garbage that is presently in charge at Tynecastle.
78

scottishcoffindodgerno1,

Edinburgh 10/01/2008 15:18:37
After statement about appointing manager with full control I saw a glimmer of light at end of tunnel,that was a train coming.Mad vlad wants you relegated,that way you can win a league title like the hibees did under mcleish.
announced that we are searching for a manager. A short list has been drawn up this week.blank sheet of paper i hear.
Banks won't be off to the Gers, Hearts aren't an OF feeder club.So where are prestley and Hartly playing i wonder
79

Prof,

10/01/2008 15:20:39
#80 How long you been watching hearts?
80

GrahamL,

10/01/2008 15:35:17
#70 I'd be careful about naming your sources. A jambo at KPMG, in Edinburgh, presumably an accountant if he's in the know about plans to call in the administrators. That narrows it down to, ooh, maybe 10 folk? You do realise that leaking this information is gross professional misconduct on his part? At best a sacking and disbarring, at worst jail.
And if you've been smart enough to use your real name on this website, and of course have registered your e-mail address, then you and he will be easily traceable - and you're certainly facing tough penalities for passing on this information.

That's assuming it's accurate of course...
81

scorchio,

kirkcaldy 10/01/2008 15:42:19
#84 Graham, there's no way that the guy your "educating" will understand your remarks.
He's probably just handed your reply, to his teacher, that he might explain it to him, using a colouring in book, or puppets.
82

Rita, Sue and Bob Too,

10/01/2008 15:44:57
#81 well said.
83

Media Scotland,

10/01/2008 15:54:59
Come on boys, a bit of lighthearted banter about Big Sam, more like wishful thinking!

Seriously though, I'm just anxious to see who the new manager will be and hopefully some new signings that are entertaining. Hopefully by the end of the month something will come about.

All Jambo's have to admit that the quality of football since Burley left has been poor, and in the past 16 months it has become quite boring, with a few exceptions! Look at the St Mirren game the other week for example.

As a result we have started a book club in the Main Stand due to the boring football and rubbish half time entertainment. If anyone wishes to join post here. Some of the books we've got through, especially during the games against the likes of St Mirren and Gretna have been fascinating.

On another note? Has anyone heard any transfer rumours?
84

GrahamL,

10/01/2008 15:56:35
#85 I'm just saying is all. If it's true then whoever has leaked this information has put their career on the line, and I'm sure they won't appreciate their mates spreading it round the internet!
There will be a thorough investigation into how this got out, and unless you're posting up here with a meaningless user name and an untraceable e-mail address then you might need to be prepare yourself for a visit from her majesty's finest.
85

Chas Niceass,

10/01/2008 15:58:13
#s 81, 86 I'd prefer the Cadburys Gorilla he'd drum up some interest, problem is though, they might all be chocolates?
#87 Screpis to join soon thats my transfer rumour, other than that cant see much happening.
What price Stephen Hughes for first goal Saturday amongst those knockers out there?
86

Aberdeen lad,

10/01/2008 16:02:38
CHAS, NOT BEEN ON IN A FEW MONTHS MATE, NOT CHECKED THE LEAGUE EITHER ?!? STILL ON COURSE FOR THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE HAHA
87

Gorgie's Finest,

10/01/2008 16:13:50
It has been asked of every hobo who posts about this administration pi5h to provide evidence, yet none appears.

It has also been explained to them in just about every way, short of asking cbeebies to explain it for them. The financial set up at HMFC and how the debt is controlled and by whom.

They have also been told quite rightly it is never made public knowledge when or if a company will go into receivership/administration. For obvious reasons. That is why you find people turning up for work one day to find a notice stuck to the door or gates telling the employees.

But still these imbiciles persist with there boring drivel. Is there lifes really that sh1te and boring they have to keep it up or their little team so boring and worthless they have nothing better to do than TRY and wind up their rivals.

You'd have thought on a day when they announce a new manager, they would be more interested in talking about that, and debating how long he will last in the job, or how this new manager intends stopping the rot thats set in of fester road.
88

Chas Niceass,

10/01/2008 16:14:58
#90 You must confuse me with someone else re the Champions League, I'd be more worried if I were you that in your most successful period in years, no one wants to play for you and your managers spat the dummy.
Oh and you still cant get people through the gate, small town, small mentality?
89

HIBSBY,

10/01/2008 16:15:12
#78 another few things that match - Debt & Hearts. Tescos & Tynecastle - Emu or any hand puppet & Steven Frail- & What a F**king signing & MIXU PAATALAINEN
90

Prof,

10/01/2008 16:15:16
Hibs supporters 2008 year planner:
January - appoint new manager, Hearts go into administration
April - Easter bunny comes
May - Hibs win cup
June - School holidays
August - Start secondary school
December - Santa comes down chimney with presents.
91

Aberdeen lad,

10/01/2008 16:22:45
CHAS

ALL PLAYERS HAVE STATED THEY WANT TO RESIGN, JUST THAT WE ARE NOT PREPARED TO PAY OVER THE ODDS LIKE HEARTS WHICH WILL END THEM UP IN ADMIN HAHA.
TWO PLAYERS I WANTED TO RESIGN WERE DIAMOND AND BARRY NIC ONE HAS SIGNED AND BARRY WILL BE OFFERED A REVISED DEAL AND WILL THEN SIGN. LOOK AT THE STATE OF YOUR TEAM, NO ONE LIKES THEM , THERE AN ABSOULUTE JOKE TO SCOTTISH FOOTBALL AND NO ONE WANTS TO MANAGE YOU. BESIDES THE POINT YOUR TEAM ARE RANK ASWELL AND IF IT WERE NOT FOR GRETNA YOU WOULD BE PLAYING IN THE IRN BRU LEAGUE NEXT SEASON. CHIN UP THO MATE, YOUR DOWN TO WHAT...... 53 LITHS IS IT HAHA
92

Tam Flogel,

my &rse 10/01/2008 16:26:32
Brett and all you other well informed people.... from someone who has held senior positions in both a bank and an accountancy firm can I just point something out. Administration is a means of a company avoiding paying creditors because there is no cash and the bills are rolling in. In the event of administration the company is run by independent 3rd parties (like KPMG) in order to get the best deal for the remaining creditors. As far as we are all aware, there is no cashflow problem (as if the cash is not there from operating activities it is being supplied by a massive overdraft from Ukio Bank) and there are no creditors waiting to be paid who are trying to push the club into administration. In an administration, the first creditor to be paid is the Inland Revenue, then it is the bank. Given that Romanov is the majority shareholder in both the club and the bank in question he would be robbing Peter to pay Paul... in other words it would make absolutely no sense at all. Granted a lot of his decisions fall into a category of nonsense, however I am sure he is savvy enough to realise that winding up the business now would leave him (his bank) approximately £20m out of pocket. Given that he is trying to establish his bank in Edinburgh too, it would seem a strange decision to cut off his bank's main income stream (interest payments from HMFC) and suffer a write off of several million on his bank's balance sheet. Tell you what, if any one out there can convince me of a good reason why the club would go into administration I'll give them a tenner. You lot are all talking balls, not the mitre kind either. Rant over.
93

Aberdeen lad,

10/01/2008 16:30:06
I HAVE POSTED 3 COMMENTS ALL AFTERNOON U TIT, 4 INCLUDING THIS
94

Tam Flogel,

10/01/2008 16:32:43
While we're at it, let's hope Lopez flight back is hijacked by suicide bombers and flown into Fester Road. Unfortunately about as likely as Hearts in admin.
95

Gorgie's Finest,

10/01/2008 16:33:03
#94
What makes mixu such a great signing? is it because he has superior management skills and experience as a manager, or could it be his unproven success in management. Or maybe just simply he is an ex player which many clubs have founf to their cost doesnt always work brining back ex players to manage them.

Your best manager would have been either Bonhof,hughes or davies. Instead the forward thinking hibs board and penny pinching CEO have opted for a cheaper option
96

Chas Niceass,

10/01/2008 16:42:19
#96 Keep taking the Prozac old chum. Dont think I really care if you or anyone else likes us, why would I? But I'd imagine you live in some Disneyland if you think the Dandies are popular, they aren't even popular in Aberdeen for goodness sake.

PS Your keyboard will work without CAPS LOCK on.
97

Gorgie's Finest,

10/01/2008 16:44:54
aww dont have a go at the wee lad from aberdeen. Its not aberdeens fans fault they still live on the memories of what happened over 25years ago (Quarter of a century) or live off their parents memories, and still think there the biggest club outside the OF even when they struggle to have home attendances above 15,000 and there manager and players all want away. When was the last time Aberdeen won anything by the way?
98

HIBSBY,

10/01/2008 16:46:03
Hearts supporters 2008 year ahead
Jan - Out cup
Feb - Still 6 points clear of Gretna
April - Bottom 6 confirmed
Msy - Game of season v Gretna (winner stays up)
June - Season tickets on sale (1st Division)
July - Sign 5 players freed by Forfar (All Scottish)
Aug - Start play school
Sept - Draw Derby v Livi
Oct - Only 15 off pace we can still get promoted
Nov - Vlad says investment in Club will happen soon
Dec - Hearts fans stop beliving in Santa & Mad Vlad
99

GorgieX1,

10/01/2008 16:48:11
why do i keep hearing we are going into administration?
100

Aberdeen lad,

10/01/2008 16:49:16
it took me aslong to find the caps as it did for u to realise hearts are dead and going nowhere!
101

Chas Niceass,

10/01/2008 16:50:49
#105 That was very good, one flaw though, Gretna will be above you come May!
102

Gorgie's Finest,

10/01/2008 16:51:49
#105

Unlike you ive seen my rivals relegated and playing first division football, the last time was the same season we won the Scottish cup against Rangers.two things you will never see unless its while your tripping from your last fix.

Now toddle off son dont you have some old pensioner to rob for your next fix, or a bucket to rake for your supper.
103

Aberdeen lad,

10/01/2008 16:51:56
wtf, big sam for hearts, can u boys not get it in to your thick skulls, no body wants to manage you as he club is a shambles simple as. and there is no way in a million years a manager like that would go to homfc.
104

Chas Niceass,

10/01/2008 16:52:33
#107 Only a short time ago you told me we were going to Irn Bru, make up your mind, now you've found the CAPS LOCK see if you can now find the SPACE BAR?
105

GorgieX1,

10/01/2008 16:53:06
tam flogel

you mentioned it aswell, what am i missing
106

Gorgie's Finest,

10/01/2008 16:54:28
#111
Dont confuse the wee boy. He'll be switching on star trek looking for a space bar
107

Aberdeen lad,

10/01/2008 16:55:53
yes correct the irn bru league, aka the first division, least you have the likes of partick thistle to look forward to, am sure we will enjoy our time in germany, playing the mighty munchen! haha long live mad vlad
108

Black Five,

edinburgh 10/01/2008 16:56:09
Prof.....I`ve been watching Hearts since about 1950 as I was born in Chesser and my Dad was born in what used to be Corporation Buildings in McLeod St.He could remember watching Hearts from the balcony before the stand was built.I went consistantly between 1955 to 1986 .After that debacle at Dens I have only went sparingly as the product on show in general has been poor.I was spoiled by the fifties.Tell you this though,nothing compares to this lot.Even the bad old days of the late seventies in the 1 st div was never like this.At least we put out what was the best available not the worst you can come up with.This Romanov is bad news and the sooner the supporters realise it the better.
109

GrahamL,

10/01/2008 16:56:18
#112 According to the hibs fans Vlads pulling the plug and we're going into adminstration on Jan 10th, no... 14th, no... 18th. Well, some time.
We know that this is true because:
a) it was on hibs.net
b) they write FACT after it
110

Aberdeen lad,

10/01/2008 16:57:15
thats right i remember the last time hearts tried to qualify for europe and they were humped in both comps
111

Chas Niceass,

10/01/2008 17:00:27
#117 What do you mean tried, we were there!
Anyway, I'll say one thing for you, its better to be a lucky team than a good one. One Euro win in 5 years and its good enough for the Last 32.
Enjoy Munchen whatever you do, hay probably, but I'd imagine your youth squad will have to contribute.

Oops sorry forgot, Jimmy doesn't do Youth Development does he.
112

Aberdeen lad,

10/01/2008 17:05:05
115


geee wizz i thought i was bad with the 80's, the 50's haha
113

Tam Flogel,

10/01/2008 17:06:30
112

Just responding to some of the p1sh spouted by soothsaying gypsies, erm sorry I mean Hobos. Apparently we are going into administration and will be deducted 10 points. Apparently we are also going to sign 2 world cup stars, get a manager with full control, build a 90,000 seater stadium and win the Champions League too. If you read my earlier post, I am convinced that administration is about as likely as any of these other things happening for the simple reason that Vlad wouldn't be getting out of any debts other than the ones he (Ukio) is owed if you follow me. Too difficult for the uneducated unwashed massed ranks of vermin to understand though, so they probably think it will happen...
114

Gorgie's Finest,

10/01/2008 17:07:15
Sorry but hope you enjoy the sightseeing in Germany IF YOUR'E GOING. Because thats the only enjoyment you will get.

Predictions

Aberdeen 0-3 Bayern Munich
Bayern Munich 5-0 Aberdeen

An 8-0 Aggregate scoreline, and another embarasment to scottish Football.
115

Aberdeen lad,

10/01/2008 17:07:36
4-0 is extremly lucky is it
116

busbyfh,

10/01/2008 17:08:06
# 55

By stating that your views are the same as someone that you reckon has integrity - That's not you being a touch narcissistic is it ?

Hell - they have been slow in coming - When are the first Mixu Pantyliner jokes starting ?
117

Tam Flogel,

10/01/2008 17:08:49
I think his point is qualifying with 1 win is lucky. What price an education eh?
118

HIBSBY,

10/01/2008 17:10:07
# 109. I can remember the late 70s - Hearts twice promoted
which probably means they were twice relagated.Stones,glass houses !
119

Gorgie's Finest,

10/01/2008 17:10:25
#123
Thats bleedin awful give the guy a chance he's only just started in his job. Give him a month at least lol
120

Dood,

10/01/2008 17:10:32
Aberdeen lad - just remember your new place in Scottish Football - feeder club for PLYMOUTH ARGYLE. Enjoy Europe, you'll not be there again in a while.
121

Gorgie's Finest,

10/01/2008 17:11:51
#126
I remember then as well. I doubt very much you remember then judging by your childish posts and comments i would put money on your father still being in primary school at that point
122

TRAM MAN,

Edinburgh 10/01/2008 17:12:13
HIBS SUPPORTERS YEAR PLANNER

Jan - Appoint Mix

Feb - Out of Cup (again)

March - Dressing room unrest over Managers constant use of the long ball tactic (we don't play that kind of football apparently)

April - Agonisingly slip into the bottom 6 with a 6-0 thrashing at home to St Mirren. ICT pipping us on goals scored.

May - Thrashed 7-2 in the Edinburgh Derby, Mauricio Pinilla makes a surprise return bagging 6 goals.

June - Sell half of our team to the Old Firm

July - Rod Petrie has a whip round the board room and presents Mixu with £6.73, a bus pass and half a packet of Polo's for the summer transfer kitty.

August - Mixu unveils Michael Stewart as his star summer buy.

September - Mixu resigns due to having to come out of retirement to make up the numbers for the first squad of the season. Petrie looks confused and wonders what all the fuss is about.

October - Yves Makalamby take over as caretaker player manager and precides over a record 12 losses on the trot.

November - Russel Latapy is appointed as new manager. Despite his no managerial experience his appointment is generally welcomed by the Hibs support because he played in the 6-2 game.

December - Makalamby signs a pre-contract with Celtic to be there 5th choice keeper. Latapy re signs 42 year old Nick Colgan as his replacement.

123

Prof,

10/01/2008 17:13:37
#115 A bit ahead of me, I began in 1959.
Don't agree about the 70's team, it was far worse!
However I agree that things are not great but we have to be realistic, despite the drivel from ER, fan pressure will not make Vlad leave. It will only work if there is a white knight willing to step into the breach. I don't see that happening - yet.
124

Aberdeen lad,

10/01/2008 17:13:43
no mattter the score with FC Bayern AFC have done not only scottish football but British football on the whole very proud. We got one of the hardest qualifying draws in FC Dnipro, and with the squad we have and the budget our team is based on we done magnificently. And then we were drawn in the group of death and we have qualified it does not matter how much points we qualified with the rules are the rules and that it is it. With the money that has been made available to JC he has done a terrific job, and chas sour grapes and the word bitter springs to mind. Enjoy the game on the box all give you a wave while we are mixing with the worlds elite, unlike yourself, but never mind you have the CL, a new stand and heeps of cash on the way.............. or wait.
125

Aberdeen lad,

10/01/2008 17:15:54
Anyway guys its time for me to go home now, enjoy the thread.

REGARDS

A happy Dons fan.
126

Aberdeen lad,

10/01/2008 17:16:49
Remember what happened to that hibs team that played the best football inthe country when they played FC Dnipro, haha dont worry all save the embarrasment.
127

Jambo man ,

ower yonder 10/01/2008 17:18:19
The soap dodgers wanting banksy for fifty grand is just typical weejy disrespect. At the next home game they should just give each of the fifty thousand fans a pound each for a bar of soap.
128

Black Five,

edinburgh 10/01/2008 17:21:55
Mixu....Let`s face it he`s better than the crap we`ve got but he`s going to be working with a chairman with about as much ambition as Keith in Eastenders.This club is only interested in selling and any manager coming in will have to work to a small wage buget.They are going nowhere.Thing is though so are we.Both clubs are at possibly the worst they have ever been and I see no light in the tunnel.Take up indoor bowling for the Winter and Golf for the Summer and leave Easter Rd and Tynie to those who see no further than their noses.
129

GorgieX1,

10/01/2008 17:23:22
sell him, we'll see if we can get bugie fi hibs he's still there is he not
130

Jambo man ,

ower yonder 10/01/2008 17:28:01
mixu as manager , now there's a club with ambition.................fcuk all ambition.
131

GorgieX1,

10/01/2008 17:32:32
just had a text saying banks is defo going will be done by sat am
132

number withheld,

10/01/2008 17:36:32
#139 - ah the bastion of all knowledge the text.. well it must be true then.
133

what a chancer,

abdn 10/01/2008 17:37:28
Has hearts burst the pay bubble,it seems nobody wants to leave,even the ones who cant get a game.
134

GorgieX1,

10/01/2008 17:40:55
from my mate whos girlfriend works at tynecastle they are both season ticket holders i have no reason to doubt them.....don't shoot the messenger, Still you can ap[ologise to me on saturday and vice versa
135

Gorgie's Finest,

10/01/2008 17:41:34
#139
Was that a txt from Vlad or Walter smith?
Or was it from one of our regular reliable sources a hobo?

Just to ask everyone.
The wouldnt it be safe to pressume if we cannot do any deals for players coming in due to lopez being on holiday then the same could be said about if we receive offers for players. Just a thought
136

Ayrshire Jambo,

Aftermath of the storm 10/01/2008 17:43:43
#138 Jambo Man,

How does having Mixu as a manager display a lack of ambition? I don't follow your logic. Mixu's record is perfectly respectable to date - sure, he has to prove himself at this level but he may well turn out to be an excellent choice. Look at the disasters we have had since Burley left - utterly shambolic though admittedly all their actions were interfered with by VR and his minions. We need to get ourselves sorted out NOW! Who cares what others are doing. Romanov - get this mess sorted out!
137

GorgieX1,

10/01/2008 17:43:59
see previous post as mentioned only sharing info, i dont sell/buy the players for the club
138

GrahamL,

10/01/2008 17:47:07
#138 To be fair, the nearest we could get to having a "former strike hero" in charge in the next few years in Arthur Scargill...
139

no chance,

10/01/2008 17:47:57
#43 Jamboree. You're on another planet as usual, its because of brainwashed ar**holes like you that romanov gets away with what he does. Where's this short list of managers you were going on about. Its time to weed out the likes of you (if you even go to the games), and then the real fans who care about the club and its history can have their voice heard without having Pr*cks like you still spouting your pro romanov cr*p.
140

mac1888,

10/01/2008 17:50:16
#138 atleast there will be a hibernian fc and easter road next season.at best your team will be called hearts united and be playing 3rd division football at meadowbank.
141

GrahamL,

10/01/2008 17:52:09
#148 Eh? explain yourself. Are Hearts disappearing off the face of the earth now?
142

GorgieX1,

10/01/2008 17:54:27
149

does he need to be in edinburgh to sanction deals, most deals are done and agreed pre january anyway, wake up and smell the coffee we are not buying anyone
143

Dublin Hibs,

10/01/2008 17:59:36
ooohhhh you could cut the tention with a knife on here.....just heard you boys have lost your goalkeeper too.....thought you weren't a selling club......ho hum
144

GrahamL,

10/01/2008 18:03:45
#153 DH - what's the matter? The novelty of talking about Hibs worn off already?!
145

It's only a game,

Musselburgh 10/01/2008 18:04:05
If this is true then it will be a game of two goalies at the Derby

Bombscare v Macalamity
146

Dublin Hibs,

10/01/2008 18:05:54
no just popped over after hearing the news.....off to have a few pots now i bid you farewell
147

It's only a game,

Musselburgh 10/01/2008 18:06:43
#154

That Holiday camp would be Butlins with the RED coats.

It couldn't be Maplins because their motto is HI de HI

148

Arnie,

Newington 10/01/2008 18:06:47
I have also heard from a decent source that Hearts are going into administration this month.
149

mac1888,

10/01/2008 18:07:45
#150 a blind man can see romanov's lost interest in hearts.he wont hang about much longer.its a shame because if george burley stayed in charge your team would have probably won the league that year and would be a major force in scottish football.am a celtic fan and would be delighted if another team came into contention for the spl title.enjoy being a jambo while it lasts.
150

Timothy Malloy Esq,

Paradiso 10/01/2008 18:08:15
Shows Rangers stretch. Bidding for a bargain basement A duffer like Banks. While Celtic are making the holy Goalie our highest paid player.

3 in a row here we go


151

GrahamL,

10/01/2008 18:10:46
#161 "a blind man can see romanov's lost interest in hearts"
Umm, if you say so. But even if he has, why does that mean the club ceases to exist?
152

Timothy Malloy Esq,

Paradiso...nr Bemused Pinoccio's hovel in Saltcoat 10/01/2008 18:12:36
Hi ho hi ho
BE's Pinnoccio
He's here each night
Talking Sh!te
Hi ho hi ho hi ho hi ho

153

mac1888,

10/01/2008 18:19:01
#161 read 160
154

It's only a game,

Musselburgh 10/01/2008 18:24:28
#166

Everyone knows you as the OXO BOYS
155

GrahamL,

10/01/2008 18:32:32
#165 That's good advice to yourself. After you've read that - go look up what "going into administration" means. And how it's effected Livi, Motherwell, Dundee, Leeds, Bradford and the other 40 odd teams that have gone into administration but are still going.

Whether it's true that we're going into administration or not, that doesn't mean the club goes away.
156

victor ian,

10/01/2008 18:42:49
haw jimmy, see the yams ur gon intae ad-min-i-stration?

whits that like tam?

it's a hing that means yer like bust an that, canny wait.

gen up tam? where did ye get that yin like? ah hope tae **** it is.

aw ah mate o ma sister's windae cleaner heard a boiy talkin aboot it oan the bus last night, he telt ma sister's windae cleaner aboot it and he kens a fair bit aboot that kind ay thing like cos he used to dae the windaes at a accounts place.

barry man!!! thats pure radge!!! yams gtf!!!

it's a fact man, it's pure gonny happen soon likes.

sounds oafy like it tae me, that sounds gen up like.

157

mac1888,

10/01/2008 18:48:08
i have no idea how much debt Livi, Motherwell, Dundee, Leeds or Bradford were in,doubt its anything near the £30 million hearts are.a dont want your team to dissapear but a can see something similar to what happened at airdie happening .What a do know is the longer mad vlads in control of your club the more serious the situations going to get and he knows it.the only way for vlad to make his money back is to sell tyncastle and build luxury flats..
158

Ian Ross,

Edinburgh 10/01/2008 18:52:32
How can a club that is supposedly 40 Million in debt afford to sign ANY players ? Answers on the back of a £5 note please. And as for Sam Allardyce being your new manager, DREAM ON.
159

Arnie,

Newington 10/01/2008 18:56:52
166 I would hope I am wrong as I am a Jambo but I heard it on Monday and now I am reading it again on this message board. It would seem strange to me as main creditor is Ukios Bankas and Roman Romanov said at the last AGM don't worry about the bank because we own the bank we owe the money to ourself. However Dundee signed Ravenelli just before they went into administration so wouldn't surprise me that much and I reckon we are losing 8 million a year since Romanov took over at least we only lost 2 million a year whilst the pieman was in charge.
160

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 10/01/2008 19:00:00
#147. What a moron! Tell me exactly what it is that Romanov is "getting away with".

Romanov kept the club at Tynecastle and is now in the process of re-development, what is your problem with that?

Romanov has saved the club from playing at Murrayfield with no players in front of a handfull of fans, what is your problem with that?

Romanov has significantly increased the commercial revenue from off the field activities, what is your problem with that?

Romanov has significantly increased the amount of involvement Hearts has with the community, to the benefit of many people mainly children, what is your problem with that?

Romanov has badly mis-judged what is required to be successful in the SPL and is looking to rectify matters by employing an autonomous manager, what is your problem with that?

Romanov bought in a bunch of players, some of whom were very highly paid, some were a success, some were not, again what is your problem with that? After all, who can name a club who's every signing was a success?

Some people go on about Burley, but who did Burley sign? answer - no-one.

Did, or did not Rix pick exactly the same players as Burley? Rix played at a very high level for many years, how could anyone suppose his man-management would be so bad as to see a massive drop in the player's form? The fact is that many of the players, including the likes of Pressley, Hartley and Skacel just didn't want to play, they couldn't get over the departure of Burley and forgot that they are paid to play football - not politics. So who is really to blame for us not winning the league and the poor spirit at the club last season? If you were to stop being so bloody trade unionist about it, you might see that the players have to take a large part of the blame.

At the end of the day a couple of years have been wasted due to the resistance of certain players to the regime and to the regime itself not being correct.

The squad has been reduced and no do
161

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 10/01/2008 19:07:38
#147

To continue,

The squad has been reduced and will no doubt be reduced further in January. Young players have come through i.e. Driver Jonsson, there are others who are on the verge. We now have only 2 players on loan from Kaunas.

So tell me p***k, who is it that really supports the club? Knee-Jerk, toys out the pram, juvenile hat-kickers who are just the noisy minority, or the fans who understand that mistakes are made and it is by working through these errors is a sensible and patient
manner which is most important.

Tell you what, if you really beleive you and your ersehole pals are in the majority, why not organise a protest? Do you really beleive that you will get any more than the 200 (from a home crowd of 14,000) that protested about Pressley's "treatment"?

As for the short list, how many clubs name all the candidates they want to speak to? You sound like you expect a report every time Romanov farts, what a bawbag!

I have been going to the game for over 30 years and even spent much of the last couple of years making 600 mile round trips to get to Tynecastle and Murrayfield. I need no lecture from the likes of you.

C'mon the Jambo's!
162

Plug-,

10/01/2008 19:10:06
Romanov should take the £50,000. Good bit of business if you ask me. That Banks isn't getting any younger. I'm sure there is a young 'keeper somewhere on the continent that's all his life has wanted to save balls kicked at him from Gorgie High Road.
163

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 10/01/2008 19:11:28
#182. As per above, if you honestly beleive that you are in the majority and have a solution to Hearts' future that does not involve Romanov, then let's see you do something about it.
164

Dog eat's Dog,

waiting in the wings with straight jackets [maroon 10/01/2008 19:12:24
CFS you are in need of help, you act and talk like a LUNATIC.
165

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 10/01/2008 19:13:36
#184. Yes, but Hearts want Banks to be the goalkeeping coach. If Banks is sold we are left with 2 shaky keepers and no coach.
166

victor ian,

10/01/2008 19:16:17
#182, i'm not having a pop or anything but i think there was about an 80% - 20% majority of hearts fans who backed romanov in a poll carried out in the EEN a while back.

i haven't seen any polls conducted recently about whether hearts fans back him or want him out.

like i said, not having a pop but making a claim about how honest hearts fans want him out is the kind of thing the hobos do....

represent their own personal view as a majority view.

167

jmcmil,

10/01/2008 19:22:00
Victor

At last I have something to crow about.

Even you must agree - we're moving faster then you to solve our concerns. (Cue your comments about all our other problems).

Question: If we have a manager this quickly, what does that say about the intentions of your club to the wider football world?
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jmcmil,

10/01/2008 19:36:26
Victor

My post #189 - When you are ready, try and give a balanced answer.
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jmcmil,

10/01/2008 19:44:04
193

Well observed, well put. Now stand by for the flak from your own that are not as open-minded as you.
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Gorgie Al,

Dunfermline 10/01/2008 19:45:22
Lots of threads tonite. though the Hobos would be busy rejoicing their "fantastic manager" who will ahve them playing "flair football" Its like watching doctor who Sauzee collins and now hes woken up at mixu. He may do ok but hes untried at any top level. i suppose hes at hibs for experience before finding aproper job. Sounds like penny pinching petrie has hem in the pocket..... the squad here is strong enough says mixu.... read ive got a new job wioth a pay increase but i aint getting any money!!! Anyway back to a football

I still back romanov. Fact We are still at tynie Fact Under him we won the big cup and cuffed the hobos in the semi (still makes me laugh now and so much more relevant than 7-0)Fact first team outside the OF to play in champions leauge qualifier, firt team in scotland to play inuefa cup stages. Fact Played all last season to full houses. fact cuffed the hobos enough to make a few good videos. fact he did arrange a game against BARCA to our biggest crowd ever. fact our profile has never been higher and I for one have njoyed the ride. fact. IF and its an unlikely IF we go into reciecvership and worse we lost hearts to the game then i for one would have the memories 2 cup wins a fantastic year in 86 and 06. I dont follow hearts to win things ( though i like it when the do) I,d follow the sheep to weegie land if that was all important they have history and traditiona nd can play bonnyrigg for all I care. they are and will always be in the blood and so much more important to edinburgh and scotland than the dockies eleven in edinburgh annex. Long live the Jambos!1 long live VLAD
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jmcmil,

10/01/2008 19:53:44
Nice one.

I'm not looking forward to the Derby as much as I should be. Reckon that Mixu has too much work to do to stop that being a poor game for either of us. Be nice to be surprised though.

I'm trying to find a bookie that is prepared to give even money on anything from 0-0 to 6-6.
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victor ian,

10/01/2008 20:05:17
#189 jmcmil, i'm glad you have something to crow about.

yes hibs have appointed a manager before hearts.

don't have an answer to your question. hearts are far and away the weirdest football club in the whole wide world, therefore what other clubs do has no bearing whatsoever on hearts.

i'm just hoping that we actually do end up getting the manager that we have been 'promised'.

hoping.

hoping and waiting.

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Ancient Hibee,

edinburgh 10/01/2008 20:12:43
How many syllables do you need to qualify as a big name manager? Sounds like an Eastern European to me.
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Ancient Hibee,

edinburgh 10/01/2008 20:16:19
About £3million
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Ancient Hibee,

edinburgh 10/01/2008 20:30:29
The only money that has come from outwith the "club" was to buy out the major shareholders.The existing borrowing obviously continued with it being transferred to Romanov's bank.Since then,according to the published accounts the borrowing has increased and it will be interesting to see what effect the Gordon transfer fee has had.
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victor ian,

10/01/2008 20:35:57
tommytommy, i can't believe you're back on for another effort at perpetrating your confused drivel, especially after being comprehensively discredited the last time.

there are very few similarities between hearts debt situation and the situation at dundee before their administration period.

far and away the biggest and most important difference between the two is that dundee owed the bulk of their debt to an independent creditor who had no association with the club ownership.

that is not the case at hearts.

hearts, it's owner, it's owner's business interests and it's owners bank (albeit not a controlling shareholding) are all inextricably linked to each other. they are all part of the same group of businesses.

this drivel about romanov running up debts and "spending the proceeds" is laughable. tynecastle has not been re-mortgaged in order to raise capital which has somehow been siphoned off.

you're a trouble making, psuedo convincing troll.
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victor ian,

10/01/2008 20:44:33
as #204 says, a three-pronged business infiltration into the edinburgh scene is in progress.

1 - edinburgh branch of ukio bankas.
2 - hotel planned at old bank building off princes street.
3 - ubig business investment as part of proposed development behind stand in mcleod street.

romanov, ukio & ubig stand to make a lot of money out of these ventures. they might be from a different culture from us but they are not stupid. they will not jeopardise their interests by fleecing hearts and sending them to the wall.

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Dog eat's Dog,

10/01/2008 20:48:43
We'll see then won't we.
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victor ian,

10/01/2008 21:03:54
#210. try to stick to facts here. £40M debt - YOU SAY.

£23M debt when he took over, he didn't rack it up from break even.

trading losses over the past 2 years will have increased the debt, to what level? YOU SAY £40M, we will see.

unless i'm being unbelievably stupid here, isn't it better to wait and see what the official debt figure is when it's made public before we all go screaming around the gaff, spouting made up nonsense?

assets? it's true that player transfer cash in exceeds cash out. player wages total approx £15M-£20M over 2 years though. interest payments on the debt keep driving the overall debt up.

#209 yes we will see, wont we?
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victor ian,

10/01/2008 21:06:06
anyway, i'm not going to waste any more time going over this again.

tommytommy, keep taking the pills pal.

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jmcmil,

10/01/2008 21:16:28
Seriously now guys - where did this £40m figure first come from? I can't find anything solid to back it up.
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Albert Kidd's 86 allstars,

Still Hame in the cold Scottish winter 10/01/2008 21:27:23
I'll waste a bit more time going over this again then Victor. I'll even use that annoying FACT motif that's so popular with the bairns on this site for the things we actually know for sure
Hearts are owned by Romanov, FACT
Ukio Bankas is owned by Romanov, FACT
Hearts owe Ukio Bankas somewhere in the region of 30 million pounds, FACT (OK a bit of conjecture over that one but I'm splitting the difference on the amount)
So Romanov owes himself 30 million odd quid, FACT
I've got it so far, yes?
Something puzzles me though. What if he does decide to close up shop at Tynecastle? He takes all the assets from the ground and club and sells them to his bank at rock bottom prices, then writes off the rest of the debt as a tax offset against losses incurred from HMFC gonig into administration debt against his bank. Whatever corporate insurance structure he uses will cover most of the last 10 million or so quid, which in business terms is a drop in the ocean anyway, no?
He now has a humongous peice of real estate in the near centre of Edinburgh which even if he just sits on it for ten years and sells will net him any loss he incurrs now anyway. That is of course solely the ground itself, not the surrounding area where he already plans to build a hotel, which of course he can build with the injection of hard cash from the sale of HMFC assets to himself.
I'm really confused cos this doesn't follow any kind of ethical business model, but it does seem eminemtly possible, if not entirely plausible...
Anyway, can't wait to see who you lot get as a manager, my bets on Neil Berry!!!
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Albert Kidd's 86 allstars,

Scratching my nogging at Vlads business dealings 10/01/2008 21:30:33
#215, Sorry should read eminently of course, It's confusing enough without bringing Slim shady into it!!!
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what a chancer,

abdn 10/01/2008 21:31:29
just who is hearts owing money to,is there somebody demanding a bill to be paid.
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what a chancer,

abdn 10/01/2008 21:37:13
rom must have a lot of assets elsewhere ,or his bank would be under, straining with the bad debt that they are all writing off.
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Gorgie Al,

10/01/2008 21:39:55
2i5 Albert the Kidd


Interesting you seem to think Facts are annoying. Is this because they dont fit with your fantsy / conspiracy concepts,

Quote from you...

"He now has a humongous peice of real estate in the near centre of Edinburgh which even if he just sits on it for ten years and sells will net him any loss he incurrs now anyway...... it does seem eminemtly possible, if not entirely plausible.

Nice, but sadly lacking in fact.

There is a concept called social constructionism in which language creates reality. Sadly scottish football has been dominated by the discourse (thats language for you) of the west coast media and football authorities. it is sadly been continued by the fools like yourself who create theories to support such nonsense. and currently our situation though not great is greatly exaggerated and miisrepresented by the media and nonsense such as yours. It saves dealing in reality and the facts as stated clearly and accurately in 195 (though spelling poor)
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what a chancer,

abdn 10/01/2008 21:41:06
Iam happy that the purse manager is on holiday,we have enough wage dodgers on the books that dont want to leave and cant find a job elsewhere,this is there last big contract.
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what a chancer,

abdn 10/01/2008 21:48:22
i think hearts have enough squad players in the reserves just need a manager with guts to play them ,cant get any worse ,least the effort would improve.
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the only choice is maroon,

dalry 10/01/2008 21:57:55
this is a non story, mind you its caught the attention of a few hobos but then they spend all day dreaming of hearts going bust when there is no supporting evidence.
a new hibs manager now they only need a team they wont sell lol
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It's only a game,

Musselburgh 10/01/2008 21:59:53
Just heard from a good source (dont ask) that the FSA (Financial services authority ) will not grant Ukio Bankas authority to open a bank in their current state. Current facility on Castle street on hold for the moment.

MAJOR CONCERNS
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Away Up In Gorgie ,

Do You Know Where Hell Is? 10/01/2008 22:23:38
I dont believe that we will go into administration but i do think we will announce some kind of loss in a few days.

The daft hibbys that are banging one out over mixu are no doubt on a high right now, as a jambo it is very frustrating now and it is loyalty and a love for the club that keeps us hanging on.

That being said, we are in some desperate need of good news and at this time i dont see that happening. I hope that i am wrong but considering the state of the club and acknowledging that it is a business, it is disturbing to see our chairman has issued no statement and instead cleared his calander so as to take part in a celebrity dance contest. To then add insult to injury his man in scotland (lopez) who is responsible for transfers etc has decided to go on holiday.

These in my opinion are not the actions of someone who is overly concerned. I hope and pray i am wrong but should we lose on saturday coupled with the above mentioned facts it does not look good.
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It's only a game,

Musselburgh 10/01/2008 22:42:35
I think the loss will be around £34million which is well within the £40million given by the agm (vlad) last year. However why has it increased? It should be on the way down, not up.
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hearts forever,

dalry 10/01/2008 22:45:42
banks is not goin to be sold thats the hobo buisness plan.
the hobo fans who keep on about hearts goin bust etc have little idea about how buisness works.
1 who would romanov be avoiding paying if we went into admin, ukio bank, that doesnt sound to likely why default a debt to yourself.
2 why would we be giving advance notice of goin into admin.
3 losing some games in the spl doesnt make you bust or the hobos would be bust even after selling any glimmer of talent off.
4 there isnt going to be a tesco at tynecastle as there is a bigger plan that the hobos dont like to think about, lidl have turned down easter road as a new store as they have a better store in leith.

banks is a great keeper and when we get a long term replacement we need him as back up. goalkeeper crisis belongs at easter road
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Gorgie Al,

10/01/2008 22:56:46
Nothing on FSA website re; castle street. or anywhere on net. This from Scotland on Sunday in AUG 07

Oh more facts,they are so much more boring than fiction

"Ukio is expected to revise upwards its target of £12m profits this year after the surprise first-half boost. The group held assets worth £740m at the end of June, up 22% on the start of the year.

Moody's, the credit ratings agency, praised Ukio in a recent report for its stable market shares, balanced revenue, stable deposit base and the potential offered by entering the euro."
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game over,

10/01/2008 23:34:46
none of you sad jambos do not get the point . you are not going into admin or bankrupcy it is simple, this ars*hole from the west is just going to pull the plug on yo lot . the big credit crunch is kicking into vlads hotpants and he himself sees that the value off tynecastle and all the land is going to fall in price and that follows onto any development companys (ie houses) 200 grand house now ,3-5 years down the credit crunch how much ,nobody no's apart from the value will drop and there is no time scale for improvements and vlad knows this . so now he will jump ship back to the baltics and sell now to the highest bidder............ bottom line you go out of buisness 1874-2008
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game over,

11/01/2008 00:05:02
#238 go past america and keep going west you will reach the baltics ........true or false. west in my comments refer to your goalie going to the west as you lot keep talking about hibs players going west along the m8 once again RIP 1874-2008
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Gorgie's Finest,

11/01/2008 00:24:30
I deliberatley didnt post much tonight because im bored and sick of trying to explain to morons who persist in going on about administrations this debt that, however

According to the BBC 2 years ago when they were filming the last documentary they reported Vlad had just finnished building a new holiday complex in finland i think it was, once opened this would take his combined wealth and assets to what they worked out to be over 1billion.

And before anyone starts shooting me down for that i suggest you watch that documentary.

And if anyone can remember a report in the Financial Times not long after Vlad took over their two reporters went over to interview vlad in his bank and the quote in the paper went something like this 2Forget rumours of romanov being worth 200million try upwards of 500million" Basically as was then and is now no-one knows romanovs full wealth but can only guess.

Now in answer to a lot of these continued idiotic fantasies about administration etc you people either do not listen or you are blinded by your hatred of vlad and hearts so much you dont want to listen. Or lastly your so think you dont understand.Romanov owns the whole lot, or in UKIO Bankas situation is a majority shareholder. Why would a banker want to deliberately sabotage his business and credit rating by going into administration over something as small as a football club compared to his other assets.

Or let me try and explain as easy as possible for the single brain cell family.

If you had £1 and only owed 2p to yourself would you risk your lifes work over it?
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Canadian Jambo,

canada 11/01/2008 03:27:41
Maybe Lopez is on holiday because 1, there are no new signings, and/or 2 he wants to be away when we go into administration. Too much flack for him to deal with. After all his boss is seldom around these days.
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victor ian,

11/01/2008 08:55:46
#238 EJ, well said sir. i had a hearty laugh at the boy's post this morning myself. what a tube.

trust a hobo to get his compass cardinal points the wrong way round. that shows exactly what we are up against, trying to explain basic business dealings to some of them.

you would think he would simply admit to his compass calamity once found out.

NOOOOOOOO!!! he still thinks he's right about going west to end up in the baltics, and also tries to cover himself by blithering on about banks and rangers!!

as they say, you just could not make it up.

and yet they still do.


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Gorgie's Finest,

11/01/2008 09:03:34
#242
Morning Victor hows you this mornin?
I had a good laugh at the hobos geography as well, Maybe he was the travel director for all hobo buses reaching hampden for the semi-final against us.
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Glorious Hearts,

11/01/2008 09:15:17
#237 "this ars*hole from the west is just going to pull the plug on yo lot"
that was about banks was it? and rangers was it? fool!!

you talk as if romanov makes his money from renting out houses to students. he owns raw material plants, plants which ensure that no matter what the economy is like, he is still a very rich man. we don't stop needing aluminium just because our houses lose value.

you hibees are clutching at straws, altho to be fair you're giving me and a few others a right good giggle.

flats, flats glorious flats, administration, pulling the rug out, tick tock etc etc etc. your lot haven't been right once and it's starting to smell of desperation. "oh please let it fail, ah pure hate they scummy jambos"

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Lionheart Fodithman,

office 11/01/2008 09:15:28
I will state the obvious because its what i like to do.

Before you put a business into administration you obviously have a duty as a Director to keep the company out of administration..
That is .....All directors and staff take masssive wage cuts.
Sell all sellable assetts..
Put the ground up for sale.
Put the club up for sale.

I cant remember reading about any of the above recently and we only have 3 days left.
Can anyone of the multitude of accountants on here please inform me of the reasons why these criteria has not taken place yet.
If the directors are not looking at ways of keeping the business out of administration then they are commiting fraud and then are liable for the failure and obviously criminal charges.

Wee Roman and friends in the pokey...Canny see it some how.
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victor ian,

11/01/2008 09:31:21
#243 GF, good morning to you too my man. good post. that could well be what happened to all those hobos at the semi.

right, which way to hampden?
anyone got a compass?
aye, i've got one?
barry.
right, can anyone work one ay these things?
(blank stares - stony silence).
eh.... ah think ye point it at the sun.
sound....... then what?
ye go where the wee pointy thing says.
right lads, we're in business!!!
(several hours pass by).
haw lads, is brighton anywhere near hampden?
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victor ian,

11/01/2008 09:34:27
#247 tommytommy the special boy, not again.

no thanks, not today.

don't call us, we'll call you.
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Gorgie's Finest,

11/01/2008 09:41:51
#246
Can picture it now, all the lost hobos on buses.
Ive still got some cracking pictures of hampden that day. Looked great at one end. the other end all you can see is the empty seats lol. What a disgrace one of the bigest ga,es in theor history certainly biggest derby game and 3/4 of them couldnt be bothered to turn up. Now thats loyalty, or should i say "Wee Team" tendancies
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Newcastle Jambo,

11/01/2008 09:41:52
Looks like a HMFC news-free zone today.

As there is no new manager in place and 2 weeks until the transfer window shuts, I wouldn't expect much to happen. That means that the current squad will be in place until the summer with the objective of avoiding relegation. What a far cry from all the big talk 2 years ago.

Hopefully there will be a manager appointed by the summer and a budget and transfer targets agreed well in advance - something that hasn't happened at Hearts for years it seems.
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victor ian,

11/01/2008 10:08:55
there's a story on the hearts site entitled "bruno's back".

it turns out he's no, and has a long way to go.

well that's good news then.

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G R S,

craiglochart 11/01/2008 10:16:22
A good second half display on Saturday,with commitment
Lets see it again against Motherwell,with some discipline
Give the fans something to shout about
Lets finish on a high
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Pride Eh The Capital,

11/01/2008 10:27:43
Im sick fed up ike everyone else of all these fester road fans making up stupid storys with no actual fact or reasonable explainations behind them, pathetic.

Just thought i'd let everyone know there is a Edinburgh based Jambo who is in the property game im not saying names at this point in time but his initials are PM he is in regular contact with my dad who is building control and controls plans for sites in and around Auld Reekie, He and a few other businessmen from Europe are putting forward a bid to buy out Romanov's share in Hearts for a fee in the region of 10 million, but he thinks Vlad is going to try and hold out untill after he builds the Main stand, because of the simple fact he is going to make money through that as i dont see the full cost as 50 million.
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busbyfh,

11/01/2008 10:31:11
Forgot to ask - As I did on the FFFHibs site - Who is signing the big Killie guy ? It is not Mixu Pantyliner as he is just in - Must be Petrie ......Looks like it is not just Romanov and Murray that does the signing of players.
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busbyfh,

11/01/2008 10:31:12
Forgot to ask - As I did on the FFFHibs site - Who is signing the big Killie guy ? It is not Mixu Pantyliner as he is just in - Must be Petrie ......Looks like it is not just Romanov and Murray that does the signing of players.
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Arnie,

Newington 11/01/2008 10:39:00
253 That is what I heard as well only thing which you have got wrong is that he is not a jambo. Hibby or Celt maybe but definitely not a jambo.
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Jambo-ree,

11/01/2008 10:39:17
#242 - Well that exlains it then. It must have been a Hibbee who made the film "Krakatoa, East of Java". Krakatoa is, of course, west of Java.
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Pride Eh The Capital,

11/01/2008 10:43:01
You sure about that Arnie, i may have got that one thing mistaken as it wasn't me in direct contact it was my dad the he was saying it he sounded Maroon. My bad if he isnt but its definitely true.
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Pride Eh The Capital,

11/01/2008 10:43:51
the way he*
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Arnie,

Newington 11/01/2008 10:47:47
258 Heard it from the horses mouth.
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Gorgie's Finest,

11/01/2008 10:56:14
#253,256 and 259

Don't take this the wrong way, but there have been rumours and stories in the past about business consortiums buying Vlad out, the last one i remember was a guy with the same initials PM, and was well publiscised at the time Pat Munro his name. He was heading up a consortium lead by an Icelandic Billionaire and was willing to pay 50million to buy out Vlad (Obviously that included buying out the debtas well) and Vlad wouldnt even speak to him, it was then reported he was speaking to a middle eastern consortium from Saudi but then nothing more was heard. TBH i think it was more on his part to get his name recognised more, he is in actual fact a Hibs fan.
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Pride Eh The Capital,

11/01/2008 11:02:09
Yeah thats the boy, Didn't know he was a hobo though. yeah he's supposed to be in process of just tht and putting another bid on the table, and your right he's getting most of the backing from the East. I meant to say that and not europe. It may well have being a ploy to get his name recognised but he seems genuine about trying to take over from what i hear.
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Pride Eh The Capital,

11/01/2008 11:03:38
Arnie you'll know alot more than me on this one if you've spoke to him for yourselve.
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Gorgie's Finest,

11/01/2008 11:06:30
This from a year ago m8, and i was wrong about the figure this report says 30million, however im sure i did read somewhere at the time it was 50million and the incelandic chap he was trying to involve wouldt say yes or no to involvelment which cats a lot of doubt over it.
If i remember rightly Vlad's pr at the time said "Vlad would be more interested if it was marilyn munro"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/h/heart_of_midlothian/6331189.stm
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GrahamL,

11/01/2008 11:10:57
#251 Apparently he's taking a major step forward in his fitness battle by "doing some running" next week. That is good isn't it.
On a related note, I'm taking a major step forward in my fitness battle too - I might have a salad next week...
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Gorgie's Finest,

11/01/2008 11:16:56
GRAHAM BEAN
CLAIMS that the Icelandic billionaire Thor Bjorgolfsson is funding a takeover bid for Hearts have been scotched.

A television report in the businessman's homeland linked Bjorgolfsson to an attempted buyout of Vladimir Romanov's 80.01 per cent shareholding in the Gorgie club.
Click to learn more...

However, a spokesman for Bjorgolfsson said yesterday: "We wish to make it clear that Thor Bjorgolfsson has no involvement in a bid for Heart of Midlothian Football Club as was reported in error on 5 February 2007."

The Icelander is the son of Bjorgolfur Gudmundsson, who was behind the recent takeover of West Ham United, and his business interests have included brewing and banking.

Although Bjorgolfsson is not involved, an offer to buy out Romanov has been submitted by Pat Munro, the Edinburgh businessman. Munro claims he has financial backing from unnamed Icelandic and Middle Eastern sources but the bid has been dismissed out of hand by Hearts.

Fred Wood, Munro's associate, said: "The offer is in, but Romanov is blanking Pat at the moment."

So to be honest Pat Munro can try put together as many consortiums as he likes but bottom line is if Vlad doesnt want to sell he wont.Although If PM came up with a genuine consortium with money behind it and got the fans on board and there was enough pressure from not only them but the fans you never know.
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Gorgie's Finest,

11/01/2008 11:23:58
tommytommy

your'e beginning to get very boring starting to sound very stupid. Please tell me your a child as it would make more sense given the drivel you keep pouring out.

ONE LAST TIME:
It does not matter what assets we have or dont have the debt is owned by Vladimir Romanov in his companies, let me say it again THE DEBT IS OWNED BY VLADIMIR ROMANOV. It is not against Heart of Midlothian. Vlad in theory could transfer it back into Hearts name but why would he?
So why would Hearts need to have assets to cover the debt in the first place?
And since you keep drivelling on about assets, Tynecastle for one is an asset, valued 3 years ago at 20million and will obviously be worth more now as land has been bought beside it and inflation and land value increases. Other assets include players contracted to Heart of midlothian, and our share of the riccarton training complex.

Now since you i have answered you AGAIN. It is about time you answered our questions.

What proof do you have of your allegations?
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Pride Eh The Capital,

11/01/2008 11:24:16
Is this recent news or the bid back in 2006, Gorgie?
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Gorgie's Finest,

11/01/2008 11:31:51
#269
That report was from 3rd February 2007 m8
So as i said in original reply to your posts the stories of PM wanting to buy Vlad out are old and keep re-surfacing ever so often. He originaly tried to buy Hearts with a consortium at the same time Vlad was buying us, and has tried a few times since, that being the last reported attempt
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Pride Eh The Capital,

11/01/2008 11:43:11
Ok thanks mate, I was just saying what I heard from the father who seemingly speaks to him alot.

I personally don't think Vlad will sell up as in the long run he could make more from Hearts by using us as window for the trash from Kaunas, and then selling them off for 50k-2m and as we know the debt to his bank.
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Pride Eh The Capital,

11/01/2008 11:44:13
not to mention whatever he's taking from building the stadium. 50million for a stand n hotel? surely not am i just being para?
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Bigwull,

edinburgh 11/01/2008 11:47:12
We'll get a new manager, but on the 1st feb, oh dear it'll be just too late to bring in new players and clear out the deadwood, will get sacked end of season, and there the experiment with the british style manager ends, or is it me just being cynical?
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GrahamL,

11/01/2008 11:52:24
#273 Personally, I think we need a new manager in today to give him a fair chance to make a difference to the squad during the transfer window. I don't suppose anyones heard of any press conferences organised for this afternoon...?
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Pride Eh The Capital,

11/01/2008 11:54:27
Were did you hear that Graham?
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GrahamL,

11/01/2008 11:57:01
I didn't. Wishful thinking on my part...
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Pride Eh The Capital,

11/01/2008 11:58:35
Did anyone see on the Hearts website that we are the first in scotlandto test out LED advertising boards against Hibs? Ive not been on the site for a while so this is new to me. Good idea that bout time Scottish football had them, no doubt the OF will follow suit, can't have the Jambos being one better can they?
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Arnie,

Newington 11/01/2008 11:58:53
I have no doubt that Vlad's intentions are honourable and that he saw Hearts as being potentially a much bigger club than they currently are, however just like Mercer and Robinson before him his speculate to accumulate policy has gone wrong and it is Hearts who are left with the debt.

I think financially Vlads cash flow from Hearts is negative and amounts to the amount paid for his shares and nothing else. He hasn't put any money in or taken any out but has been able to provide us with additional borrowing from Ukios Bankas in which he has shares which has mainly been used to fund players wages.

Where Vlad is to blame is that he hasn't made a good decision since he became the majority shareholder and his signings have proved poor value for money and loyalty to mediocre Scottish players and the poor Lithuanians such as Miko, Kurskis, Ivankevisicus, has seen us humbled umpteen times this season by teams with less than half our resources.
234

Gorgie's Finest,

11/01/2008 12:01:02
#274
Press conferances? don't say that i would just rather they announce any new signings or a new manager. Can you imagine the fireld day the hobos and others would have in speculating if it was announced HMFC have arranged a press conference at a set time. It's bad enough at moment with their drivel.

Wasn't today one of the days we were going into administration?
235

Pride Eh The Capital,

11/01/2008 12:01:50
lol I was getting my hopes up there... :(
236

Pride Eh The Capital,

11/01/2008 12:05:42
Meaning hoping for a new manager or players not Administration!
237

GrahamL,

11/01/2008 12:17:25
#279 It's anytime between yesterday and next Friday. I assume that, come Monday, it'll be anytime up to the 21st. And so on...
238

Glorious Hearts,

11/01/2008 13:17:08
#283 tommytommy you lovely lovely intelligent man

in actual fact, as hearts are owned in full by the UBIG group, our assets as part of that company are pretty impressive.
you want a breakdown of hearts debt? why? will it make you feel superior?
given that we don't know the amount of debt I can't satisfy your ever-so intelligent musings

you assert that hearts are responsible for hearts debt and no-one else. simply wrong. UBIG (hearts owners, NOT major shareholders) have 100% responsibility for hearts debts and can more than afford them

you can pretend it's concern for your rival club or their fans, but really you're fooling no-one
239

Albert Kidd's 86 allstars,

Now bustin ma breeks laughing at Gorgie Al 11/01/2008 14:02:10
#220, Gorgie Al, Why have you called me a fool?

I said, and i quote,
'I'll even use that annoying FACT motif that's so popular with the bairns on this site for the things we actually know for sure...'

You said,
'Interesting you seem to think Facts are annoying. Is this because they dont fit with your fantsy / conspiracy concepts,...'

Where in particular do i say facts are annoying?
The point i was making was about cetain 'specials'(I'm now including you in with them)that use that dumb capitalised motif as a way of emphasising opinions rather than agreed certainties, which is annnoying in itself. No?

You then go on to present my opinions, which i have already clearly agreed in my opening statment to not be fact, in such a way as to mislead others to believe I am trying to decieve by presenting them as the very thing i have already stated categorically they do not represent.

This means you do, however, hit the nail on the head about social constructivism being led by propagandic language in it's attempt to mislead people into believing something is fact when it is merely conjecture. Your entire post is a far more literal representation of those ideals than mine is, well done.

However I dont for one second believe that was your intention at the outset of your little rant against me so I'll just say you need to read other peoples posts far more carefully in the future if you want to be taken even remotely seriously as some kind of social anthropologist.
I therefore put it to you that I am the smart one and you are the fool, FACT!
I do however applaud you for your unstinting support of your side through thick and thin, it is after all what being a fitba fan is about.

While The Chief...

240

Lochinvar,

Edinburgh 11/01/2008 14:22:12
Hearts website says "Banks is a doubt with a hamstring injuty"...funny that....I hear they have experts at Ibrox that can sort that kind of "injury"
241

Roscoe P Coltrane,

11/01/2008 16:25:03
Tommy - as far as anybody other than VR is concerned, we don't know what the debt figure is. At the last AGM it was agreed that the debt facility could be increased to £40m, but that doesn't mean the actual debt is £40m. I have a £3k overdraft facility but am only overdrawn by about £500- does that make me £3k in debt? No.

If you want to know what the current assets are, get the report when it comes out and read the balance sheet.

 

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