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Published Date: 21 July 2008
HEARTS replaced one midfielder with another over the weekend as Ugandan international David Obua arrived in place of Fernando Screpis, who has been deemed surplus to requirements by the club.
Screpis' Hearts career is over after just five first-team appearances and, as such, the midfielder appeared on trial for Plymouth Argyle on Friday evening – but he will still pursue a pay-off for the three remaining years on his Hearts contract.

The Argentine has been told he has no future at Tynecastle and did not travel with the squad to their German training base in Wiesbaden last night, but Screpis maintains his current £1500-a-week contract runs until 2011 and that he should be paid in full.

He told the Evening News: "Hearts are telling me my contract is cancelled.

"According to the contract I signed last July I have three years left, so I am waiting for the club to contact me about this.

"I am sad to leave but I don't think I was given enough chances in the team. I don't think I was treated fairly. Anatoli Korobochka treated me well but some others at the club did not.

"I find it strange that the new manager only saw me play for less than 40 minutes but then I am told there is no place for me."

In a meeting with sport director Anatoli Korobochka last week, Screpis was informed he would play no part in the German tour or the forthcoming domestic campaign.

The 29-year-old played five times in the SPL last season after arriving from FBK Kaunas in January. He began fearing for his future after reporting back to Riccarton for pre-season last month and subsequently learned that his original deal could be re-negotiated. Agent Juan Cobian attempted to persuade officials of both Hearts and Ukio Bankas Investment Group, the club's parent company, to retain the midfielder, but to no avail.

Anthony Basso and Calum Elliot were the other notable absentees from the 24-man party which arrived in Germany. The goalkeeper appears to have fallen completely from favour whilst Elliot is keen to settle his future, with Inverness one of several clubs interested in brokering a loan agreement with Hearts.

Obua was scheduled to fly in to Germany today to join his new colleagues, although Robbie Neilson, Mirsad Beslija and Bruno Aguiar have remained in Edinburgh due to fitness problems. Teenagers Matej Rapnik, Ryan McGowan, Gary Glen and David Templeton travelled with the squad.

Subject to a successful work permit application, 24-year-old Obua will become new manager Csaba Laszlo's first new recruit. The Evening News website revealed on Friday that the player was in Edinburgh for talks with Hearts and the club confirmed his prospective signing yesterday.

Obua is comfortable at left midfield but can also operate centrally or in defence.

Meanwhile, Uganda's Under-20 coach, Jackson Mayanja, is in discussions with Hearts over the possibility of becoming Laszlo's assistant.




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  • Last Updated: 21 July 2008 12:53 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Heart of Midlothian FC
 
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21/07/2008 11:42:27
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Graham Rix ate my hamster,

21/07/2008 12:01:47
#1

Hearts are now heading in the right direction again.

11 thousand tickets sold for Barcelona at Murrayfield.

I know who the joke club at the moment is, and it aint the Jambos.

ARF
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victorian of gorgie ,

21/07/2008 12:02:27
we owe you hee-haw pal, bolt.

that applies to screpis and biley.

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Go Gorgie Dalry,

21/07/2008 12:03:57
#3 You can't just cancel a 3 year contract for NO reason. Therefore, we will be due him compensation.

No doubt about it.
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21/07/2008 12:06:19
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W s m,

21/07/2008 12:06:44
HEARTS owe everybody son,
chances are you'll never see a cent!
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Edinburghs Finest,

21/07/2008 12:07:18
Surely if the boy has a contract he should be paid off or negotiate his release... Sounds like Vlad likes contracts in place when they suit him...
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Edinburghs Finest,

21/07/2008 12:08:15
#4 spot on....
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scorchio,

West of the Pecos 21/07/2008 12:08:26
Screpis was GASH, and I am delighted our new manager views him as surplus to requirements.
There are more duds to be moved on, and it remains to be seen whether or not this lad is better.
As for the contract dispute, that is, or should be a private matter.
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21/07/2008 12:08:29
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Graham Rix ate my hamster,

21/07/2008 12:08:35
OMNIPRESENT- PIMPERNEL, the REALLY sad thing is you are no doubt are an adult.

What a way to get your kicks.

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21/07/2008 12:16:34
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Propaganda boy,

21/07/2008 12:16:38
Well if he is so concerned about being under contract, no doubt Hearts will be entitled to a fee from Plymouth if his trial is succesful?

This would cover any costs, or would Hearts waive the fee for a quick cost fee release?

As for the writer of #1 and every odd post since, you either have fingers too fat to type or are very very very special person if you know what i mean!
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21/07/2008 12:18:00
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Engels74,

21/07/2008 12:18:24
Screpis was rubbish but he is another example of the judgement of Romanov! Like many of the signings he has made they were descent at kaunas but couldn't handle the spl. Hardly "world cup star" material!!!!
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Who's it gonna be? ,

21/07/2008 12:19:55
If hertz signed a contract keeping him there for three years on a wage then decide not to play him- they must still pay his wages- simple. Damn sure if I was him i would want my money too.
If I got sacked for being surplus to requirements my company would have to pay me off. It was their decision. If Screpish left of his own free will then it would be different.
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Who?,

21/07/2008 12:20:18
#15 - he is the result of a sexual union between family members.
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Who?,

21/07/2008 12:22:42
Screpcis- could have done a job but we have miko and chesney as backup so better he leaves.
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Jambo Jay,

21/07/2008 12:25:41
Calling all jambos... Seeing as most of the posts on Hearts stories are by deluded hobos. I think we should actually stop posting stuff on here!

Let them argue with themselves over the big team.

For the record. If I were Screpis, I wouldn't be too chuffed about the way I had been treated & I'd certainly want compo!

By hobos
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the west end general,

21/07/2008 12:25:53
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spot on - I will wager a pound to a penny that,as usual,Vlad will have a watertight case,rightly or wrongly he seldom loses in these situations despite being morally dubious in the extreme.
btw why dont all you hibees get knocking on some doors and drum up a decent support for Thursday?
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Indy Rep Kid,

21/07/2008 12:37:10
#33 @ #34

you again.........

just finished cleaning up after your dad and thought you'd delight us with more bloo nose wit?
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GrahamL,

21/07/2008 12:38:25
Interesting. Screpis complained about not being told whats going on when he joined Kaunas and went to the papers. Now he does it again. Likes his name in lights this boy, don't he?
If his contract doesn't have any sort of clause to cancel it then, yeah, if he doesn't want to leave, Hearts have to pay up his contract. Who knows whats actually happening here though, has his contract been cancelled? Has he been told he's getting sold? I guess he'll keep us all informed as it progresses...

Seemed like a half decent player, but we have plenty midfielders already, so if getting rid of him opens up some cash for a decent striker or two it seems like a good move.
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I.J,

The Diggers 21/07/2008 12:40:01
#34 - Almost as familiar as you dribbling out of your browneye about subjects that neither concern you or that you know anything about..........
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Who?,

21/07/2008 12:50:32
#39 - Do you know the terms of the contract?

Neither do i, if you read the story it says the contract could be negotiated this summer. Whether that means termination should an agreement not be made i don't know. Like you i'm not privy to the legal clauses of the contract between screpis and hearts.
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Who?,

21/07/2008 12:53:58
#30- did you read my earlier post? Can you read? When it comes to fathers day do you get confused giving a present to your brother?

I suppose the reason you can type so quickly enabling you to post so many is because you have 6 fingers on one hand and seven on the other- I wish your father/ brother had humped is cousin instead of his sister?
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The Hallucinist,

21/07/2008 12:54:11
#40 Did you ignore the rankyer fans inapproriate behaviour in Manchester?
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The Hallucinist,

21/07/2008 12:55:55
44# they're a rankyers family. His dad probably found his sister more of a turn-on. Especially if they live in North Lanarkshire!!
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Who?,

21/07/2008 12:59:23
#46 - you have to remember it wasn't the rangers fans fault- it was 200,000 UK casuals there to ruin rangers globally recognised good name.

Rangers fans never sign sectarian songs, give nazi salutes, when away from home their fans never trash grounds/ trains/ busses/ pubs/ shops/ town centres. Rangers fans never leave an away ground and attack random people in the street.

People from glasgow- never!
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Who?,

21/07/2008 13:00:52
#46 - strange he never replied to comments painting him as inbred?

Maybe hit a raw nerve?
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GrahamL,

21/07/2008 13:01:26
#43 It's not that unusual to have points where a contract can be renegotiated, and - yeah - there'll be some sort of remedy if the two parties can't agree. We don't know what that is, so it's all speculation. It's a shame that Screpis and Hearts can't just keep this internal - we do seem to still have a habit of not talking to people, hopefully that'll change once the new man gets properly settled in. But everyone seems to get paid eventually, so just another distraction from the main thing I reckon.
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I.J,

The Diggers 21/07/2008 13:01:45
#40 - What inappropriate behaviour? Is it as inappropriate as the racist remarks you made in #39?
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The Hallucinist,

21/07/2008 13:03:53
#47 Why would I want to debate with a rankyers fan? I hate rankyers.

Nothing interesting about rankyers for you at the moment, that you have to waste your time on a Hearts thread? Posting what you believe are irritating comments to get a reaction!!
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mcjambo,

21/07/2008 13:07:26
i wouldnt be suprised if romanov had a clause in screpises contract? that will have a loop hole in it somewhere
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The Hallucinist,

21/07/2008 13:09:11
#49 Definitely hit a raw nerve!!
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The Hallucinist,

21/07/2008 13:12:15
#48 Well said!! Let's ignore inapproriate behaviour!!
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ZICO KIDD,

Belfast 21/07/2008 13:38:50
Good riddance to Screpis and Basso. I hope Elliot does well for Inverness, but he was never going to make it for Hearts.
Pimpernel, I think you had better get back to the basket weaving or whatever other activity they have for you at the asylum today.
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Jambo-ree,

21/07/2008 13:50:13
The writing was on the wall for Screpis the minute his agent jetted in shhoting off his mouth to the press. Would like to think he'll keep picking up his wages from us until he's transferred elsewhere at which point IMO he can sing for the rest of 3 year's salary.
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busbyfh,

21/07/2008 13:56:12
"Subject to a work permit"

That means he will not sign for Hearts.

When a full permit is not issued (which it cannot be due to Uganda not being rated high enough)the matter is then sent to the country's FA for a committee to decide if the specific player will benefit the league he is to join.

That means a three or five man committee made up usually of ex players and present managers to serve as a non biased group that votes on the issue - should the player be allowed into Scottish football .These "fair minded" people have recently so far sat on varied players entering the game here a number of times , but dis-allowing permits only thrice. TWICE BEING PROSPECTIVE HEARTS PLAYERS.(including one player that went on to get the man of the match award against Scotland when Belarus played at Hampden)
Does anyone really think that an SFA/SPL/Weegie driven committee will allow us to benefit from any kind of benevolence from them whatsoever ???????????????????
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Gorgie's Finest,

21/07/2008 13:57:07
According to pimp this morning Lithuanians need work permits and visas to play in Scotland.....how can anything this imbicile say ever be taken seriously....the guys a complete moron.....either very thick or a racist.
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Indy Rep Kid,

21/07/2008 13:59:59
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Well, he's a Murderwell fan so the racism bit is a dead cert.

You don't dig his beat style poetic approach to the forum, then?
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Gorgie's Finest,

21/07/2008 14:02:36
#60

I know theres a rankings thing as well, but doesn't a percentage of International caps apply then? Im sure ther was an incident where we were looking at a player but decided not to go for him as his percentage of caps would not have been enough. Or to have played so many times for his country out of so many games they played in a period of time.
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ValdasTheMan,

Edinburgh 21/07/2008 14:04:57
If Screpis has a legal contract, then he is tied to us for 3 years, which means we can collect a transfer fee for him?

Let the transfer fee cover the cost of his remaining contract (and more)?
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Glorious Hearts,

21/07/2008 14:17:42
For the 75% of internationals in last 2 years rule to be in force, the national team in question must have been (on average) in the top 70 ranking teams. Uganda have never got that high so that's where the problem lies.

It doesn't mean it kills the deal tho, this guy's played in the MLS and for SA's biggest team so an appeal may well have a positive result.

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stillbelieving,

ayr 21/07/2008 14:44:20
I saw Screpis three or four times and thought he looked a good player, way better than Ivaskevicius or Chesny or Michael Stewart at least. I cant understand why they would want to get rid of him unless there was something in the background that were not hearing about,BO maybe?
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Mike-S,

www.thetalkothetoun.co.uk 21/07/2008 14:47:51
Here we go again....what more can you say?
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GrahamL,

21/07/2008 14:52:35
#67 I think the rule is that he has to have played in at least 75% of the matches AND the team is in the top 70. At which point the work permit is a formality, beyond that I seem to remember it coming down to individual consideration as to whether the player will benefit the club/league etc.
IIRC Mourinho did a full powerpoint presentation to the tribunal when he was signing Essien...
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BRUHibs,

21/07/2008 14:52:44
Will the new manager pick the team this year?
Cannot see what has changed until this is confirmed and the exodus will continue as a result.
I cannot believe how fickle you are 1 minute and optimistic the next - very low expectations or making the best of worse than nothing?
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SAME RULES APPLY !!!,

21/07/2008 14:56:52
#67

Either way the world ranking rule is a nonsense. Totally discriminates against players from developing football countries.

If he has the talent, let him play. To hold back this lad's career/earning capacity because he is a citizen of a low FIFA rated country is morally wrong for so many reasons.

SAME RULES APPLY !!!
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Solymar 2,

Los Gigantes Santiago del Teide 21/07/2008 15:00:21
The guy is due dosh.Simple.
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Solymar 2,

Los Gigantes Santiago del Teide 21/07/2008 15:02:26
One thing I cannot understand WHY? is this Heart of Midlothian thread so important to supporters of The Hibernians.
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huggs,

21/07/2008 15:14:04
75 Tatto he is no longer a jambo so even us Hearts supporters not bothered about this
So why are you saddo answers on a post card to Fantasy Island de plane boss de plane!!
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Solymar 2,

Los Gigantes Santiago del Teide 21/07/2008 15:19:37
Tommy Tommy An expert on contract law are you ??? self praise is no honour
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Solymar 2,

Los Gigantes Santiago del Teide 21/07/2008 15:24:00
Also Tommy Tommy we do not know what his contact was/is.
And why are using my name twice as your handle.
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huggs,

21/07/2008 15:34:43
85 Tatoo Some Jambo has obviously abused you in the past
Get over it or get counselling or just GTF
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GrahamL,

21/07/2008 15:35:34
#79 Interesting that an expert on contract law would choose to accuse someone of breaching a contract - despite having never read it.
I'm not an expert on contract law, I'll admit that, but I certainly wouldn't say it's been breached if I didn't know what clauses it contained.
I am impressed tommytommy, I've dealt with a number of lawyers in my time, and they've all insisted on reading contracts before making a decision about whats in them. I'll have to use you in future, all that money wasted on lawyers time when you can make a definitive judgement in 5 minutes without seeing the documentation.
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LionheartFodithman,

21/07/2008 15:37:03
#84 tt
Quote.
"Any money raised on Hearts shareholding is a dilution of the clubs value.Nothing is going in without something being taken out.
It is giving to keep banks at bay."

What you have stated there is hogwash,nonsense,rubbish & totaly untrue.ie made up by you.

But in true tt fashion,thats all iam going to say on the matter.
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johnrebus,

Oxford Bar 21/07/2008 15:43:53


And so it goes, on and on , and on ......,

No longet a laughing stock . Just a very sad and sorry tail of the slow and painful death of a football club .

Keep on fiddling lads , Rome is burning all around you !

Tick tock .
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ssormij,

Leith 21/07/2008 15:46:27
Fernando Screpis was one of the best players Hearts have had for a long time. New manager but the poor judgement remains. Come on Romanov buck up
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Jambo Number 1,

21/07/2008 15:52:18
#93

Petrie and Farmer treat you plastic seat impersonators like real kings tho numbnuts. Keep taking your pills you freak.
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Jamtastik,

21/07/2008 15:55:09
Maybe screpis will sign for motherwell or hibs?

Then again, maybe he's ambitious lol
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Jambo Number 1,

21/07/2008 15:57:18
#96

If you are not a Leitheopian then that makes things worse! Would you admit who you do support? I thought not HEEHAW.

WhY Do YOU ALter the CASE of YOur LEttEring? IT MAkeS What YOu PoSt aPPeAr tO HAVE been WritTEn By a MOroN?

Yes, a moron.
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Jamtastik,

21/07/2008 16:05:01
#101 - Dearie me,

Well, quite clearly you are a nobody, all the tee-hees in the world won't hide the fact that you need attention in the real world..getting it on the internet maybe a small consolation as in your mind you can think you make a difference, but you don't really, your veiws will be ignored by the paper as they should by the majority of football supporters.

I pity you, i really do & hope that in the real world, your life becomes more meaningful. I wish you all the success in the world for finding that, and you never know, you might even be able to have a relationship with the opposite sex when you have found that happiness.
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Jamtastik,

21/07/2008 16:06:45
103#

Quotes from one season, as all jambos would admit was a bad one for the club..after all finishing behind hibs & motherwell is very embarrasing you are right...we are not used to such a low position as your team obviously is lol
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Jambo Number 1,

21/07/2008 16:07:18
#101

Pimperbag is getting boring. What football team do you support?

I didn't have a grammar class, I was taught grammar during English class .I don't know what sort of a school Pimperbag went to. My School taught syntax in English class.
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Jamtastik,

21/07/2008 16:07:42
come on pimpy swetheart, slowing up on your replies..yawn
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LionheartFodithman,

21/07/2008 16:07:51
#104 Jamt
I think you will find he has been having a full blown relationship with himself for a long while now.
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Jamtastik,

21/07/2008 16:08:48
ok maybe mummy has walking in and found the things he was downloading..speak to you later when your allowed pimpy
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Jamtastik,

21/07/2008 16:09:39
108# LoL

Dont forget bessie & the puncture repair kit m8
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Jambo Number 1,

21/07/2008 16:26:33
The sooner the IP ban is placed on this troll the better. Pimperbag will have a nervous breakdown (another one)
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Jamtastik,

21/07/2008 16:27:54
#155

Actually, his attempts to wind up make me laugh...

Needed a clown to brighten the day...continue pimpy
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Jamtastik,

21/07/2008 16:28:30
keep em going pimpy - your funny
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Jamtastik,

21/07/2008 16:29:07
Don't run out of wit now..hurry
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Jamtastik,

21/07/2008 16:29:40
hmm i assume hertz is the name of your dog ;)
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Jamtastik,

21/07/2008 16:32:41
#124 please this thread is not about football anymore..its a platform for pimpy to make more of an @rse of himself

Continue pimpy
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Jamtastik,

21/07/2008 16:41:46
Could all be networked from inside saughton anyway :D
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Indy Rep Kid,

21/07/2008 17:24:35
#141

"being embarrassed by the clubs owners "

How did YOU feel when YOUR club's owners went into administration because they had made such a complete @rse of it, sending a large number of players and staff onto the scrapheap???

How did you feel when you took advantage of said situation to avoid paying any release fees to these players????

Still not embarrassed? So how did you feel when you then went out and recruited new players - EVEN PAYING TRANSFER FEES - to replace those you had dumped on?

How do you feel having convicted murderers on your payroll???

What about sitting there listening to YOUR supporters racially abusing a number of black players??

Your club is vermin and should have been relegated to the 3rd Division for abusing the rules when Boyle messed up.

As for you, TommyTippee. You keep posting away because, from what I understand you are a Sellick man and i'll take the permanent ban from these boards to tell you exactly why you should be embarrassed to follow that disgusting little team
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LionheartFodithman,

21/07/2008 17:25:01
#143 tt
When the new stand build starts at Tynecastle will you be so determined to post about asset stripping and skimming money from the deluded fans.
Or will you apologise for all your mistaken THEORIES and admit to the world you where wrong ????
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Jambo Number 1,

21/07/2008 17:26:50
#144

Does the Pimperbag support Motherwell.???

LOL
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Indy Rep Kid,

21/07/2008 17:30:42
#147

He does indeed.

You know, the club that went into administration, sacked all their players, and then started buying new players - conveniently forgot a lot of creditors along the way.

The club that has a reputation for abusing black players. Welcome to Lanarkshire!

The club that Bob Malcolm plays for.

Scotland's Shame.
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Indy Rep Kid,

21/07/2008 17:32:30
#150

Nope - you support the team you admitted to supporting recently.

Motherwell.....still raises a chuckle every time I say the name.
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Indy Rep Kid,

21/07/2008 17:33:17
#151

What's mad about it?

Show me the untruth???

Tell me about the dodgy transfers at Hearts? Facts, not rumour.

You're out your depth here.
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Indy Rep Kid,

21/07/2008 17:34:12
#153

Ah well, you're not only a bottler who didn;t have the guts to tell us who he supports for a year, you're now the kind of guy who is EMBARRASSED to maintain that support for the inbred Lanarkshire racists.

I pity you.
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Gorgie's Finest,

21/07/2008 17:34:41
TommyTatty - supporter of one half of scotlands shame, a club who whole heartedly sponsored terrorists, whose fans sing openly about illegal terorist organisations, and raise money for them. Who openly sing sectarian bile and filth

RileyPimp - Supporter of Motherwell, whose fans racially abuse players, who have been caught doing so and have had to give out public apologies because of the fans behaviour. Whose own club have seen administration.

Two great people to be giving any advice on football, its fans or clubs finances....two low life, billy no mates characters who have openly admitted on these forums there sole purpose here is to "Wreck" them

All Hearts fans and Hibs fans for that matter should just start writting letters of complaint to the EN regarding this, and then hopefully it will hurry them into making the changes they told me about in an email.

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Indy Rep Kid,

21/07/2008 17:40:12
Well, Pimpy, you have excelled yourself.

For a while you were sticking up for your team - despite them being racists - and you almost made some intelligent points.

But now you have managed to go even further down in my estimations.

Bravo!!!
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Indy Rep Kid,

21/07/2008 17:41:48
#159

fiddle fiddle, eh???
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Gorgie's Finest,

21/07/2008 17:42:55
no originality whatsoever.....broons book mentioned earlier....was only this morning he was told the beano was his limit of intellectual reading....speaking of craniums....it was a running joke about him months ago about his cranium exploding......talks about multiple persona......we have known for months about his multi pseudos.......

Will he ever get original material....or just keep using old phrases and jokes us h.umps have been using on him for months?

Tommytatty....will he ever learn accounts? economics? will he ever be able to think for himself without his master riley having his hand well and truelly up his backside teling him what to do?

Two of the saddest most delluded people ive ever had the misfortune to see on the internet....

Cant answer questions because they dont know the answers, no intelligence whatsoever....have been caught out so many times lying....and each time they slope of back to their little rock to hide under it for a while.....
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LionheartFodithman,

21/07/2008 17:53:47
#167 tt
Nice one Serg,you just gave the game away with that post about your real identity.

OOPSY
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Jamtastik,

21/07/2008 17:55:26
Pimpys a clown..quite amusing to read his drivel though...continue pimpy
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LionheartFodithman,

21/07/2008 17:56:24
#169
No need for explanations this end.

OOPS
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victorian of gorgie ,

21/07/2008 17:56:51
there isn't really a great deal more that 'lil old me can add about tommy-tonka-toy and biley. nothing which hasn't already been said by my esteemed jambo colleagues.

och i'll say piece anyway...

what a pair of useless dobbers. clear off back to your sad little lives (life) and send in the other dobber, sergina the liar.

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LionheartFodithman,

21/07/2008 17:58:43
Bye Bye Serg.
Laters.
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Vlad Magic,

21/07/2008 18:22:51
Evening peeps:0)

Thought Screpis looked decent. In fact I would go as far as to say he looked good!! Had high hopes for the lad. Can only think that Csaba reckons we have better which bides well as I trust his opinion.

TOGETHER!!!!
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Gorgie's Finest,

21/07/2008 18:23:03
"MK Dons have entered the race for Hearts striker Calum Elliot, who is also wanted by Inverness Caley Thistle.

The 21-year-old has travelled to England for talks with the League One side's manager Roberto Di Matteo."
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victorian of gorgie ,

21/07/2008 18:34:04
#177, evening VM. i thought he looked ok as well but he was doomed, doomed i say, after he bumped his gums about his transfer from cow'n'ass to hearts.

do players and agents really still think it's a good idea to gob off about romanov and his way of operating?

whether people like his way of conducting business or not, it's football suicide to get up his hooter.

why can't these players and agents learn? are they hobos?

#178 evening GF. not a bad option for the boy. i wish him all the best, even though i'm still livid about his arrogant, lazy attitude.

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victorian of gorgie ,

21/07/2008 18:39:18
hey lads, get this one.... see the hobos are starting to make initial noises which could well lead to their new stand being shelved.

how about this though...... apparently it's now a good idea for them to delay the works because of the global credit crisis and soaring steel prices, etc etc. sound financial management yet again by the best ever run football club.

make it up, you could not.

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Vlad Magic,

21/07/2008 18:42:15
Just looked at http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/heartofmidlothianfc/Hearts-boss-vows-to-lick.4307560.jp

Very interesting. Csaba aint shy on telling it how it is. Obviously has the FULL backing of Vlad or he would know not to go into detail on the state of the squad. He's totally honest, totally approachable and totally commited to turnng this mess arround. Im very impresssed in the way he has approached this situation. Im not expecting miracles. Im not expecting us to win games early on in the season. In fact im not expecting top 3 this upcoming season. Im just looking for an overall improvement. I hope others do the same!

TOGETHER!!
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Vlad Magic,

21/07/2008 18:46:27
#179 Evening Vic:0)
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Vlad Magic,

21/07/2008 18:49:20
#183.

I dont know? Do you? Do you have an opinion on anything?
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Gorgie's Finest,

21/07/2008 18:51:13
#180 Evenin Vic and VM

Heard a wee rumour at weekend, Seemingly Mixu and Petrie had a falling out last week....Mixu wanted a player Petrie refused....The wages that he would have cost was peanuts as well, well below the capped wage
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LionheartFodithman,

21/07/2008 18:52:11
Evening VI.
I did hear that the new Hobo stand was going to be suspended while they do a feasibility study with regards to turning it into a flair football museum and a Hobonomic university.
They have realised they already have too many seats and are looking for ways to utilise the space.

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Vlad Magic,

21/07/2008 18:53:49
#185.

I heard similar. Mixu threw his toys oot the pram when he was refused a £1200 quid a week player!!!

Petrie should seriously think about the fans when making these decisions!!
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Vlad Magic,

21/07/2008 18:57:24
#187. Yes I agree Elliot aint the best.

What exactly is the problem with delaying paying? If you think you elecy bill is wrong, do you pay it whilst thinking "erm hang on thats wrong. I'l pay it first then take it up with them later"? NO you dont you delay paying it till you know EXACTLY whats going on!!

Every club in fact EVERY business in the UK does the same. Its common sense.
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victorian of gorgie ,

21/07/2008 18:58:28
#185 GF, that's a wee shame for the space-hopper. i hope he doesn't do a 'square heid' and leave them though, he's a gantin manager, hope he doesn't go bouncing off into the sunset for a good while yet.

#186 LF, i had to bite on a stick to stop laughing when i was reading the flumps comments about not wanting a new stand, better to wait, steel prices, well run club, blah blah rhubarb...

they would argue left was right on the one hand, then argue right was left on the next, then forget which hand was which.

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Gorgie's Finest,

21/07/2008 18:58:38
#185

Thats about the same figure i was told. Said just over a grand a week. so near enough.....devastating news if this is proven dont you think.....and then the double whammy if they cancel the stand being built as planning consent will run out before a global reccession does.
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Gorgie's Finest,

21/07/2008 19:04:43
#190

Its brilliant listening to their constant drivel and excuses, as you say you couldnt make it up. Everyday for months weve had how good their new stand is going to be and how it is DEFINATELY going ahead and they WILL have the best ground etc etc etc. now as soon as theirs a possibility it wont be built when they said it would be, its blamed on the Credit Crunch and Petrie is being prudent. Hahahaha its quality m8

Simple truth is the money has been squandered and hidden away...Wheres TommyTatty to explain where the Hibs missing millions are?

Petrie using the new stand as a ploy to sell season tickets as well, and we were told Hibs and Petrie dont use such tactics...hahahawe all told them and have been telling them for long enough, but they have been that concerned with Hearts they fail to see their own glaringly obvious problems
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LionheartFodithman,

21/07/2008 19:08:27
#192 OF
Should be paid properly like at your gaff eh.
Brown envelope will do nicely.
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Gorgie's Finest,

21/07/2008 19:10:30
#192 Puntit

No-where in this article does it have a quote saying Hearts are due anything to Screpis....have you not learned yet from even just the past couple of weeks the EN and any media for that matter can only speculate on anything to do with Hearts, until Hearts themselves release information...or is this too much for you to understand?

Do you know Screpis is due money?
Do you know the terms of the contract?
Do you know he has actually been released officially by Hearts yet? (Csaba told him he doesnt have a place thats it so far)
Do you know there are not any clauses in the contract like that of Pinillas, where Hearts are allowed to cancel the contract without having to pay compensation?

You know none of these answers, just as we dont know them either, so for anyome to say he is due money or he isnt due money is pure speculation and "Mischief Making"

Wait till the FACTS are reported with quotes from both parties before jumping in and making a fool of yourself
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Vlad Magic,

21/07/2008 19:14:47
#192. I think the key here is

"He began fearing for his future after reporting back to Riccarton for pre-season last month and subsequently learned that his original deal could be re-negotiated. Agent Juan Cobian attempted to persuade officials of both Hearts and Ukio Bankas Investment Group, the club's parent company, to retain the midfielder, but to no avail."

Look at "could be" and "subsequently learned". So if the EN is to be believed, he knows full well his contract isn't bullet proof and is simply crying to the press looking for sympathy. As I said its a shame as he looked a decent player. Another case of agents not doing their jobs properly!!
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LionheartFodithman,

21/07/2008 19:15:14
#196 OF
In that case it is Vlad who is towing the governmental line and paying up legit,eventually.
While your mob are still robbing the tax man,hence the reason you get no whinging or demands at later dates.
All guesswork on my part of course.....
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Gorgie's Finest,

21/07/2008 19:15:37
#196
hepundit,
21/07/2008 19:11:04
#194 at least we still pay them....

you dont see them in the papers a month or 2 later demanding to be paid!

Screpis was only told a few days ago, he is surplus to requirements.

Could be a case of he will be paid when the rest of the squad are paid.....not ell employers sack you and pay you any money you may be due immediately, sometimes you have to wait till they do their monthly wage run, and there is nothing illegal in that....thats if he is due anything of course
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Vlad Magic,

21/07/2008 19:24:50
#202 read #197

He is well aware he hasn't a leg to stand on.
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LionheartFodithman,

21/07/2008 19:30:14
Its on the official site about Clum going to the MK Dons for a chat.It doesnt state transfer or loan.
How much do you guys think we might get for him if he gets flogged.
£50 - £60 ????
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victorian of gorgie ,

21/07/2008 19:30:35
#202 kerplunkit, in your opinion hearts owe him money?

ha ha haaaaa!!! you should read your own posts, quite entertaining.

what criteria are you basing your opinion on?

do you have a copy of the contract?
do you have full knowledge of the content of the contract?

as others have said, hearts may well have a better understanding of their liabilities than clever little you. they may well already know that they are not liable for any payment to screpis.

did you even stop to think about that before blethering a lot of cobblers?

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victorian of gorgie ,

21/07/2008 19:32:52
#204 LF, £50-60..... yes..... if they sellotape a £50 note to his butt.

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Gorgie's Finest,

21/07/2008 19:33:38
#202 Pundit

IMO Rangers are rank rotten and will win nothing this year. Also IMO Murray is in financial trouble....of course this is only my opinions, so does that make them true and give me the right to argue about them? and make accusations of dodgy money, or financial irregularities?

No it doesn't
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Gorgie's Finest,

21/07/2008 19:36:30
The very FACT Campbell Ogilvie is there, should be enough for people to see past the hysteria about payments and contracts. Do you honestly think Campbell Ogilvie would allow himself to be involved in anything "Dodgy" or "Illegal" do you actually think Ogilvie does not know about player contracts and loopholes etc, and would not advise Vlad, as well as Top lawyers advising them....get real ffs
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victorian of gorgie ,

21/07/2008 19:36:43
#208 GF, imo walter smith eats nothing but corn flakes. corn flakes for breakfast, corn flakes for lunch, corn flakes for tea, nothing but corn flakes, no milk or sugar on them or anything.

what do i base this on? 'cos everyone likes corn flakes.

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Gorgie's Finest,

21/07/2008 19:39:21
#211

But thats YOUR OPINION vic so it must be true. Lets forget FACTS if theres an opinion thats what we need to believe.
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victorian of gorgie ,

21/07/2008 19:40:52
#209, two things....

who is more likely to know the extent of hearts liability re screpis contract? you or hearts?

what possible use is there to releasing a player from his contract if you will ultimately be liable for the full value of it? do you not think hearts would be better to pay his wages on a week-by-week basis / month-by-month basis, rather than having to cough up the full amount in a oner if they are liable?

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victorian of gorgie ,

21/07/2008 19:43:10
#212 GF, no no no, waaaaaaaaaaaah!!!! waaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!! no fair, no fair, it's up to you to prove he doesn't scoff corn flakes all day. if i want to say he does then you can't stop me.

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Gorgie's Finest,

21/07/2008 19:46:52
#214

IMO he also adds in a few rice krispies now and then as well.....But its only my opinion so it must be true
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Weel Kent Jambo,

21/07/2008 19:47:44
#213 - Maybe we should send Screpis on gardening leave for the next three years?
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LionheartFodithman,

21/07/2008 19:50:26
I dont like corn flakes VI,so perhaps Judas Smith doesnt like corn flakes.
If i dont like corn flakes and Judas Smith doesnt like corn flakes then that means we are the only people in the world that doesnt like corn flakes because you said everybody likes corn flakes.That means that me and Judas Smith are kindred spirits......Dont like the sound of that,so i like corn flakes now.
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victorian of gorgie ,

21/07/2008 19:53:51
#217 CJ, i know it's pathetic. personal agenda takes primacy over reporting items of public interest news.

a bit like the daily rioter and it's sunday sister the hunday mail. old firm set to burgle 5% of away game ticket proceeds....... NOT REPORTED.

place that next to the slathering hysteria hearts were subjected to last season when they increased ticket prices and you get a picture of a wholly corrupt popular press who are in the pocket of the ugly sisters.

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LionheartFodithman,

21/07/2008 19:58:54
I dont think we should be worrying about what the press has to say anymore.If the information coming out of Tynecastle keeps flowing like it is at the moment the gutter press will soon stop making stuff up.
It was easy for scribes last year to just make up stories on the quiet news days.
Not anymore.

TOGETHER
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victorian of gorgie ,

21/07/2008 19:58:58
#218 LM, i'm not telling you or anyone else what my favourite breakfast cereal is. this is a public forum where every fan of corn / wheat / maize / muesli based foodstuffs is at liberty to slag off cornflakes supporters. i demand free speech and open debate about the snap crackle and pop issues of the day.

kellogs have asset stripped corn flakes from under your noses. mission flakes, dodgy bowls of cereal, blah blah blah waffle.

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victorian of gorgie ,

21/07/2008 19:59:45
mission flakes?????? i must be going mad.

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LionheartFodithman,

21/07/2008 20:02:19
Ok Ok you win Vic

CHEERIOS
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victorian of gorgie ,

21/07/2008 20:03:58
#223 LF, haw haw. that takes the wheatabiscuit.

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victorian of gorgie ,

21/07/2008 20:06:55
#224, it's hard to decipher what you're on about. how much are you saying hearts owe him?

don't jump in feet first now. try to remember what you've already said, no contradictions please.

#202 will help, don't say i'm not good to you.

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Gorgie's Finest,

21/07/2008 20:13:59
Just left a nice little message for the hobos on their new stand being chopped thread lol.

I wondered why we hadnt seen much hobo infestation today, after all this would normally be the kind of story that would have them wetting themselves
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Vlad Magic,

21/07/2008 20:16:42
Pundit. IMO you should quit whilst you still have SOME integrity left.

You dont know what you are talking about and are now back tracking to save face.

In truth, GO AWAY!!!
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Gorgie's Finest,

21/07/2008 20:26:54
#231 Pundit

Let me remind you of a couple of quotes you have made today

thepundit,
21/07/2008 19:02:27
#189 i know that but in screpis' case he has gone so he deserves to be compensated for the remainder of his contract

how long hearts will take to pay him is anyones guess but what i do know is that if it were any other SPL club he would be paid a lot quicker than when hearts will pay him

and with one of the richest chairmans in the SPL something isnt quite right

im not always critical of vlad and ive actually praised some of his decisions but this is wrong

we will just have to wait and see but as ive said, IMO hearts owe him money

#202 IMO hearts owe him money

So you saying he is entitled to the remainder of his contract "he deserves to be compensated for the remainder of his contract" the article states 3 years so your saying he is entitled to 3 years compensation.

If you want to go even deeper and work it out his wages are also mentioned in this article £1500 so multiply by 3 years would be £234,000

You may not have physically mentioned figures but you dont have to be a rocket scientist to work it out.

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maroon74,

21/07/2008 20:46:57
I thought Scepis looked like he had potential. Should have given the lad a chance at tynie.
Obviously mad Vlad still making all the team decisions! Shabba only managed to see screpis in 40 minutes of action and then HE decided he should be freed....yeah right!
Screpis would have done a job and IMO he is a lot better than some of the dross that are plying their trade in the famous maroon!
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Gorgie's Finest,

21/07/2008 20:49:20
Just been watching some of the training from germany on Hearts world and listening to Bansys interview from Training as well. that Obua looks huge (Hobos dont be getting excited i mean height )
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Gorgie's Finest,

21/07/2008 20:57:25
#242

People have said there is that possibility, however there is no evidence to suggest he is entitled to any, and no grounds for basing this article as in hearts have done anything wrong.

You are the person that has claimed HE IS DUE MONEY

You havent said he may be due money, you were emphatic when you said he is definately due money. You based that on no evidence or fact.

Even IF Hearts are die him compensation and its a big IF there is also no evidence or reason to believe they will NOT pay him. As i said already he has only just been released, or the actualy quotes are him saying he was told by Csaba he doesnt figure in his plans, so there is not even any evidence to say he has in fact been sacked yet.

"The Argentine has been told he has no future at Tynecastle and did not travel with the squad to their German training base in Wiesbaden"

""I find it strange that the new manager only saw me play for less than 40 minutes but then I am told there is no place for me.""

Please tell us anywhere it states there that he has actually been sacked/released by Hearts

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Gorgie's Finest,

21/07/2008 20:58:54
#243

I was looking for the 3 legged race or wheelbarrow races....Sergina will be mightily disapointed to learn theyve all been stopped and Hearts are actually having a very productive pre-season
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Vlad Magic,

21/07/2008 21:00:30
#245

He's allready here:(
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Gorgie's Finest,

21/07/2008 21:11:19
#247

So you have went from definate, to your opinion, to thinking, back to your opinion, then to maybe not you dont know, then back to thinking.

If you saty on here long enough talking about it youll be back to definte again, and maybe even writting a cheque for him
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Gorgie's Finest,

21/07/2008 21:17:48
#250

Ahhh right, Just so we get this right here, we wouldnt like there to be a confusion you're now "Pretty sure"?

It's not definately?
It's not IYO?
It's not maybe
You don't think?

Your'e now "Pretty sure" is that very sure? or just a little bit sure?

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Vlad Magic,

21/07/2008 21:22:03
You would make a pretty cr4p pundit. In fact you are:0)
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LionheartFodithman,

21/07/2008 21:22:11
#252 OF
Do you like corn flakes ?
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Gorgie's Finest,

21/07/2008 21:22:41
Nade's worst nightmare

"Christian Nade and Laryea Kingston worked on different fitness activities this morning under the guidance of head physio Rob Marshall and fitness coach Tom Ritchie."

Heard Tom Ritchie was running ahead of nade with a greggs pie and a big mac on a fishing line behind him.....
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Gorgie's Finest,

21/07/2008 21:26:54
thepundit,
21/07/2008 21:25:30
#253 pundits give politicians answers too!.... ;p

#243 nah, im more of a coco pop man myself

Id have said more of a coco the clown man.
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Forrest Gump,

21/07/2008 22:13:48
Mr luvva man SHABBA.
He is being quoted as the 9/4 jolly (fav) as first gaffer to be given hee-ho in the new season,

also 3/1 calderwood
hughes 5/1
levein 10/1
strachan 10/1
mixu 10/1
smith 20/1
those are the main ones.
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victorian of gorgie ,

21/07/2008 22:15:56
pundit, dig that hole any deeper and you'll end up at the earth's core.

according to you, nobody is right or wrong here because nobody knows the complete facts. again according to you, we will all just have to wait and see.

and yet you are "pretty sure" that hearts are due screpis money, however you're not so sure as to the amount due.

did this come to you in some strange premonition or something? did you wake up this morning with a feeling that you had a weird dream that hearts were due the guy money but the details are a bit hazy?

or is it, as i suspect, that you have made some ill-informed, wild speculation about it and are desperately trying to backtrack on it, without leaving yourself looking like you've backtracked?

if so, you haven't quite managed it.

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what a chancer,

back in the groove 21/07/2008 22:28:45
how can we knock the guys that cost us 1.5k a week but the ones that fleece us for a transfer fee ,signing on fee and a 8.k a week plus salary go on the sick note and fly away for a season and a half get away with it.are they thinking, lets protect them and see if we can get cash back of their reputation in the hope of a championship team coming in for them that are desperate.this option is bleeding us dry.
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victorian of gorgie ,

21/07/2008 22:40:14
#263 creambundit, i've never said that i never post on other clubs' threads. only that i rarely do.

that's going off at a tangent anyway, we are examining your toy town logic regarding the likelihood of hearts owing screpis money. you can't wriggle of the hook that easily.

still to receive a satisfactory answer to this....

why would hearts want to release a player and cancel his contract if they are likely to be made to pay up the value of the contract, rather than retain the player and pay him his weekly/monthly wages?

who is more likely to know hearts business and best interests, you or hearts?

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victorian of gorgie ,

21/07/2008 22:55:09
#266 pundit, even though you reckon that "we will have to wait and see" if hearts pay any money to screpis, you maintain that you are "pretty sure" that he is owed money, although you are fairly sketchy about how much this will amount to.

how did you arrive at this inkling of yours?

tarot cards, ouija board, ESP, voodoo?

also.... show me where i said that i never post on threads about other teams. rarely - yes.

is this another one of your premonitions oh magical voodoo witch doctor man?

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victorian of gorgie ,

21/07/2008 23:21:27
#268, in other words you imagined i did but can't prove it, even though you've spent 20 minutes trawling about to try and find a quote.

haw haw!!!

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Indy Rep Kid,

22/07/2008 08:46:25
#271

Whatever, Bottler....whatever.

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Glorious Hearts,

22/07/2008 11:18:22
#275 timtimmy

Unless you can provide documentary evidence to back up everything you say, very few people here will give your posts any credence whatsoever.

If any proof was needed, serg/biley/w s m or whoever he/she is regularly agrees with you.

Doesn't that tell you anything? It certainly tells me an awful lot
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Glorious Hearts,

22/07/2008 11:37:35
#278 So you happen to know for a fact every clause of Screpis' contract. You know for a fact that there is no termination clause for example?

Didn't think so
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Glorious Hearts,

22/07/2008 15:07:16
#287 TimTimmy

You never answered my question @ #280.
I'll give you it again to save you scrolling up...

"#278 So you happen to know for a fact every clause of Screpis' contract. You know for a fact that there is no termination clause for example?"


Once again;
"he talks and talks and talks and it is utter nonsense"
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Gorgie's Finest,

22/07/2008 19:04:35
#290

Not if there is a clause in that said contract?

Never heard of a contract with clauses?

And if you do not know what is in the contract you cannot make assumptions...FOOL

"he talks and talks and talks and it is utter nonsense."
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