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Berra happy to lead a band of brothers


Defender has settled into role as vice-captain and would take the armband permanently if needed

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Published Date:
10 July 2007
SHOULD Craig Gordon decide to head for pastures new before the summer transfer window closes, Hearts would appear to have a ready-made replacement captain in Christophe Berra.
At 22, the defender has matured beyond all recognition during the last 12 months. Initial scepticism over his ability to amply replace Andy Webster has given way to justifiable respect and international recognition with the Scotland B squad following
a year of commanding displays.

But equally as important has been the evolution of Berra's leadership qualities, prompting his installation as Hearts' vice-captain. Both matches on last week's Austrian tour saw Berra deputise for Gordon as knee and thigh injuries afflicted the goalkeeper, although the side was barely compromised in terms of inspiration.

The departures of dressing-room mainstays like Webster, Steven Pressley and Paul Hartley have forced the more youthful players at Tynecastle to seize the initiative, and the tones of Gordon and Berra have become evermore dominant since.

"I'd say 90 per cent of the boys can speak a decent amount of English, but I think Shaggy looks to Craig and I to be the louder voices in the team," said the centre-back in reference to assistant coach Stephen Frail, pictured. "He gets on at us to be more responsible because we're Scottish. I think he wants us to set the example for other players.

"We've taken that on, and as a centre-back you must communicate well. I think that area of my game has been getting better."

For any pointers or guidance, he need only turn to Gordon. Pressley's unceremonious exit from Hearts last December propelled the captain's armband across the dressing room towards the Scotland goalkeeper, who has responded to the challenge of rallying his colleagues.

"Craig's admitted that when he first became captain he didn't know how much responsibility it involved," continued Berra. "You can see he puts in a lot of time for the club and organises a lot of things for the boys. It's a great honour for him and I know he's really proud to be captain of Hearts having supported them as a boy.

"I watch him doing some of the less obvious things like geeing the boys up in the dressing room before a game and making speeches before kick-off. He also organises tickets for the players, which might sound an incidental task but it can be quite hard with the number of players we have.

"We don't get a lot of tickets to share out so it's up to Craig to distribute them and he's very good at that."

Gordon's promotion to on-field leader also saw Berra step-up in status, but the self-effacing defender is keen to play down the significance of being second in command.

"Sometimes if we're doing an exercise in training Tom Ritchie will say, 'we'll start with vice-captain Christophe,' but I don't look at it that way. I just consider myself one of the boys because I still have a lot of improving to do as a player.

"I'm honoured to be the captain when Craig's injured or not playing. I know Craig is the first-choice Hearts captain and everyone respects him for that and looks up to him. I just step in from time to time and it's important to still play your normal game. I try to organise the defence and make sure we keep clean sheets.

"You're going to places like Parkhead and Ibrox trying to spur the players on but that's part of being a centre-back. Not everybody does it but it's a good thing to be able to organise those around you.

"I'm 22, I think people know I'm a level-headed guy who's quite sensible and dedicated. Hearts are a massive club and definitely the biggest in Edinburgh, so you have a lot of responsibility on your shoulders."

The onus on Berra could increase significantly if Gordon heads south to the English Premiership. Sunderland continue to pursue the Hearts No.1 with other clubs also monitoring the situation, but those at Tynecastle are understandably reluctant to part with their captain.

Berra said: "You don't want to lose your best players so we can only hope Craig is here as long as possible. He knows he's attracting attention from a lot of clubs and he will move on to a higher standard one day. He deserves that but at the moment I know he's dedicated to Hearts and wants to do his best for the club. With him fit, we can get off to a good start in the league next season."

Having completed the Austrian leg of their pre-season tour, Berra and his colleagues depart for Meschede in Germany tomorrow on another 11-day trip. Pounding the luscious training fields of Walchsee last week lifted fitness levels considerably, now Frail and his fellow coaches will be keen to fine-tune their players' performance.

Saturday night's victory over Austria Vienna certainly augmented squad morale following a friendly defeat by the Ukrainians of Tavriya and a bounce-match loss to FBK Kaunas.

"It's good to get away to a different country and play foreign teams instead of Scottish ones," explained Berra. "It's just a different type of football, so I'm looking forward to the Germany trip now. The two trips are 11 days each so we're expected to bond with each other during that time.

"We lost probably a cheap goal from the corner on Saturday but apart from that we were reasonably solid. They had a couple of quick forwards and it was a good test for us. Concentration is one of the most important things for a defender, you've got to concentrate for 90 minutes. We were training twice a day in Austria and it was very hard, but that's what pre-season is. We know it's going to be hard when we're away and you travel expecting to really work."



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1

Pedantic_Hibee,

10/07/2007 11:19:08

"Definitely the biggest in Edinburgh"

Let's not open the same old can of worms again, but the old adage rings clear here; if you say something often enough, you'll start to believe it.

Mr Berra's just guaranteed himself a sound beating on his next night out from an angered Hibs fan. Not me incidentally, I prefer to sort things out over a milkshake.

2

Noods,

10/07/2007 11:23:39

Pedantic, would that be after he plays in the team that administers a sound thrashing to Hibs on the opening day of the season? ;)

3

Burning Man,

10/07/2007 11:23:51

A 'sound beating' is a bit out of proportion PH?

4

Conran,

10/07/2007 11:29:27

Lets follow the tone Pendantic suggested then and not get into tit for tat, after all he has had his shot so leave it at that eh?

5

Pedantic_Hibee,

10/07/2007 11:36:15

#2

One swallow does not a summer make, dear chap. Ask my missus.

I still think Hibs and Hearts are far smaller than we should be.

We know we're a small club, and as such, most of us are happy to settle for it. It's about time most Hearts fans realised that about their team as well.

You've won two trophies in 30 years, you're millions in debt and you're signing free transfers and engineering loan deals from the same club in one of Europe's poorest leagues.

This is not the actions of a big team.

We're both small fish in a small pond. Get used to it.

6

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10/07/2007 11:36:58
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7

Another bad day for hibs,

Above hibs 10/07/2007 11:43:04

#1. Sorry, no way are you getting away with that.

Hearts have won more trophies, have a much better record in the league, have averaged higher attendances and of course, have a far superior derby record.

Perhaps something is said often because it is true.

As for this actual story, did Banderson write it to high-light Berra, or did he write it just to keep speculating about Gordon?

8

Pedantic_Hibee,

10/07/2007 11:48:43

#7

And the inferiority complex you've suffered for years still rages on. Your username does nothing but exemplify that.

Whilst your location serves little more than detailing the extent of your ambitions.

In truth, it probably would have been better if you hadn't posted.

9

Flynny,

Edinburgh 10/07/2007 11:51:48

Perhaps us Hibees are aware costs had to be cut ,but are currently the most financially secure club in Scotland so thats not too bad!
With no money in the bank you cant bring a club its full potential,but with a little money and great finacial running by the board there are no limits to what you can do!
So lets face facts Id much rather be in the Hibee position than a Hearts one.
Plus Id also rather end up having ended up 6th and win a trophy than 4th and having wasted a fortune on wages and manager compensation settlements(You sure your owner is actually a Banker,or is it perhaps the W got lost in translation and was replaced with a B)

C'mon the cabbage

10

Jamboi,

Edin 10/07/2007 11:52:14

...5,

Pedant,

"I still think Hibs and Hearts are far smaller than we should be.

We know we're a small club, and as such, most of us are happy to settle for it. It's about time most Hearts fans realised that about their team as well."


Are you going to now tell me that you cannot see the blinding contradiction in the above quotes.
"We are smaller than we should be' in other words you wish that Hibs were larger and have to include Hearts in that in order to make Hibs seem on a par with Hearts for size...
Then in the next paragraph you insinuate that Hearts are deluded for wanting to grab a bigger slice of the pie even though you think that Hearts and Hibs should be bigger than they currently are.
I interprete this as sour grapes that we are trying to grow the club in terms of marketability and attendance when it is your wish that Hibs would do the same but are unable to admit to this as you would then have to congratulate Hearts for speculating, which you cant do after ripping into Hearts as a deluded club and backing Petrie's penny pinching.

Make up your mind either be happy as a wee club or want to grow then stick by the decision. Dont lay into Hearts for trying to grow when you believe your own club is too small.

11

scorchio,

West of the Pecos 10/07/2007 11:57:22

"I'd say 90 per cent of the boys can speak a decent amount of English"
Excellent news, and that should re-enforce what alot of us are saying about Hearts moving forward.
Mallofeef on the other hand continues to talk/shout gibberish and will not be anywhere near team matters come August.
Vlad,where is our new coach?

12

Jamboi,

Edin 10/07/2007 11:58:55

...9

I would NEVER enter a competition without trying to win it...Fanancial footing etc great if you are Petrie and Farmer but not so good when you have to let your best players leave for 10 times the wages 40 miles away to a club you are in di8rect competition with. Even before Vlad I wanted and believed Hearts could win the league every year and the year I stop believing then all the enjoyment and indeed point will be lost for me.
Happy with no-debt and 6th place with the occassional League Cup...Thats fine I applaud you but not my idea of competing.

13

Pedantic_Hibee,

10/07/2007 12:01:53

#10

My point is, you tell us you're growing but actions speak louder than words....and hiring and firing managers, signing bargain basement players and hiking up the debt with no real tangible return is hardly the actions of a big club aspiring for success.

It's the actions of a club readily willing to shoot itself in the foot, driving down the road of oblivion with a debonair, carefree attitude.

14

DaveT,

10/07/2007 12:03:03

#7 - re 'inferiority complex' - I found this rather amusing coming from someone who it would appear spends much of his time hunched over his keyboard, waiting on the latest Hearts stories appearing on the EEN/Scotsman website so he can get his little witticisms in immediately...

15

Pedantic_Hibee,

10/07/2007 12:03:20

Oh, and I think Hibs are a small club. And yes, I'd like Hibs to be bigger than they are.

And I believe that we're on the way to becoming bigger. First of all, as in any business, you have to run the company properly and make sure it's on a sound financial footing.

Any other fan of any other team in the league would choose the Hibs way of running a club over the Hearts way.

Remove the maroon tinted specs and you might just agree with that. Grudgingly of course, but you will.

16

Pedantic_Hibee,

10/07/2007 12:04:42

#12 So you're happy to finish fourth and willingly punt your players to your direct competitors for small pennies then ?

17

Big Team,

10/07/2007 12:06:15

"engineering loan deals from the same club in one of Europe's poorest leagues"...???

You really dont get it do you? Hearts sit at the top of a pyramid of three clubs - this means that Kaunas and Ripo are feeder clubs for us, nurturing talent fom all over the world. If these players are good enough they are rewarded by promotion to play for Hearts...

And where are Hubs signing players from? If Petrie continues to asset strip your club and does not re-invest any of the proceeds in the team you lot are in severe danger of bottom six or worse for the forseeable future.

The future's bright - the future is Hearts

18

DaveT,

10/07/2007 12:09:38

My post did of course mean to refer to #8, not #7...too desperate to get my own reply in immediately, how ironic.

19

Flynny,

Edinburgh 10/07/2007 12:10:10

I want to win the league every year but you cant expect it yet the gulf is still too big but is decreasing and with a fine run business,the business gets bigger and bigger,when it comes to a business with spiralling debts then trouble tends too loom!
Remember what happened to Wimbledon or Dundee!
A company goes into liquidation when there is no feasable means to carry on trading are in place,so watch out,
I know there is a very strong rumour in the surveyors field that Tynecastle will be sold to Cala homes,and a few at the top end even claim to have seen the building plans.......watch this space!

20

Sunny Bay,

Walter Mittys Backyard 10/07/2007 12:11:16

#14 - you forgot to include "dribbling down his bib as he frothes at the mouth"

21

Sunny Bay,

Walter Mittys Backyard 10/07/2007 12:12:30

Nice to see all the followers ofFFFhibs have such a high opinion of the glorious that they spend so much time here.

Methinks you lot protest to much and are all closet Jambos.

22

Hobo Harry,

It's only Kaunas Dorothy 10/07/2007 12:15:22

#17 Chelsea, Monaco and Newcastle amongst others. Think about what you are writing to avoid looking foolish.

23

Sunny Bay,

Walter Mittys Backyard 10/07/2007 12:17:33

#19 - dream on.

24

DFYL Tours.......Keep The Faith,

10/07/2007 12:18:23

#16 No, i'm not happy with it. It's called 'ambition' - much rather have that attitude than 'We know we're a small club, and as such, most of us are happy to settle for it', as you so rightly put it.

25

Truth Finder,

10/07/2007 12:19:54

Edinburgh is a city bursting at the seams - Leith and the east of the city especially! Hibs should be demolishing the old stand and going for 15k books.

26

Jamboi,

Edin 10/07/2007 12:24:19

...15

It is easy to say things in the heat of emotion but you can never accept when you contradict yourself so I will just have to let it slide I suppose.
There are two very distinct ways of dealing with arguments. The first is to just blindly argue black is white in order to win the argument as the other pesone cant be bothered anymore. Then there is listening to both sides and taking peoples points to add to your own to reach a better outcome. I dont know why I bring this up I just thought you might be interested. There are two very different ways of dealing with competition in business or social circles also...First you can throw everything at trying to improve in order to get ahead and fight hard all the time. The other option is to sit and continually belittle the bold and sometimes risky attempts by your peers to improve until you feel better about the lack of movement on your own front.
Again I dont know why I tell you this but then you are the first poster on all todays Hearts threads so I figured it may interest you to hear what a Jambo is thinking.

27

A Jambo - come rain or shine,

10/07/2007 12:28:38

19# Load of crap unless of course you can prove any of this. Even still, if we sold the stadium it wouldn't raise enough money to cover the debt so he'd be left with what - debt and no assets?! You are clutching at straws i'm afraid.
I wouldn't rather be in Hibs position at all - what have you got to look forward to this season? No hope of winning anything having sold on your best players and a bunch of inconsistent boys or unknown signings to replace them!
#22 Oh aye, chelsea's 4th choice keeper - well done! And i'm sure the other 2 were getting regular games at Monaco and Newcastle but decided that Hibs was a better option!!

28

Jamboi,

Edin 10/07/2007 12:35:50

...19

Very original!
I heard a romour that Hibs pay 2k a week max...how can you steadily grow that way as by the time you are able to pay players enough to stay and ignore Glasgow cash dispensers then Football will be played with jet packs and heat seeking balls.

29

CBJambo,

10/07/2007 12:36:28

#18

Hibs are in a pyramid system... they feed the two old firm clubs... then the money that comes there way is pocketed by Petrie and co and the poor manager has to work on a shoestring budget.

Pedantic geta grip of yourself your daily posts are soooooo repetitive... I do not care how your club is run and how much money the sale of your better players makes. The bottom line is that the Hibs fans are short changed season after season... losing there best players and getting little in return. You need your academy more than ever now as it is all too evident that it and non league/loan deals is your chosen way forward.

Hearts are going down a more ambitious route granted, and it is all up to the man at the top what happens. To this day tho nobody in the Romanov camp has ever said that he'll 'cut and run' the man is at times 'too involved' with selection... but it smacks of an owner who has a dream and is at the present living it.

I have never been fully pro Romanov but i'd rather have him than Robinson. Vlad is doing things his way and we are all getting use to it now.

Maybe we could agree that both Edinburgh clubs have there own agenda... Hibs to be stable and survive... Hearts to build and grow with a driven owner.

Anyway... if Hearts go out of business, and celtic and Rangers leave the spl, and of course with Aberdeens debt they could go at any time... maybe then you guys will win the league...

although i still think you'll finish below Falkirk!!

30

1875 Always 1 better than the Hertz,

10/07/2007 12:37:31

#11

Your new coach is at the bus depot cause that's the only one you lot will be getting this season. And Vlad has millions and zillions at his disposal eh.

GIRUY YAM FUDS

31

Pedantic_Hibee,

10/07/2007 12:37:52

#24

Stupidity and ambition are two entirely separate things, my dear.

32

Pedantic_Hibee,

10/07/2007 12:38:44

#29

Look at the bigger picture, please. Thanks.

33

A Jambo - come rain or shine,

10/07/2007 12:44:24

#30 There's always one who comes on and just types whatever their brain cell thinks - plumb.

34

Jamboi,

Edin 10/07/2007 12:50:47

...24

Pedant,

Since you have become a little quiet you should let this guy answer for you as he is clearly an intelectual match for anyone and gives a great detailed argument on all things Edinburgh and football...

"1875 Always 1 better than the Hertz / 1:37pm 10 Jul 2007 #11

Your new coach is at the bus depot cause that's the only one you lot will be getting this season. And Vlad has millions and zillions at his disposal eh.

GIRUY YAM FUDS"

Trully a man of class!...Benetton jumper tucked into Joe Bloggs jeans and beat-up Max classics with the barrow boy swagger, its hard not to speculate.

35

Jamboi,

Edin 10/07/2007 12:52:04

...33

A true ambassador for all green and white parts of our fair City.

36

Robbo27_22,

Edinburgh 10/07/2007 12:53:08

Ahhhhh, the old 2 trophies in 30 years chestnut.

Try 2 in 8. Not great granted but when you also take into account that they were the big cup then it put's perspective on it.

OK, let's have a definitive fact session:-

Who of the Edinburgh clubs have won the most games?
Who of the Edinburgh clubs have won the most derbies?
Who of the Edinburgh clubs have won the most trophies?
Who of the Edinburgh clubs have the biggest support?
Who of the Edinburgh clubs have had the most international players?

Was Hibs the answer to any of the questions?

37

Jambo83,

West Calder 10/07/2007 12:55:19

The annoying Hibbies on here won't be happy until we say Hearts are evil, Hibs are good by the sound of it!

If you don't like comments made by Jambos then f off and don't contribute to our stories, it's not rocket science! You don't see me posting after Hibs stories for a reason, I don't care about Hibs!! The only team I care about is my team, if only others could do the same!!

38

A Jambo - come rain or shine,

10/07/2007 12:59:34

I'll bet he was in such a hurry to write it and then sat giggling at him/herself (let's not be sexist here) at the amazing humour.

39

Jambo83,

West Calder 10/07/2007 12:59:49

#36 Well said, it seems they have trouble getting a lot of that information through their thick skulls and are clearly clutching at straws with pathetic taunts about 7-0 etc, who cares. I believe Hearts actually recorded a bigger win long before this but it doesn't suit their agenda to discuss that game.

40

Jambo83,

West Calder 10/07/2007 13:01:10

#30 You have went a long way in summing up "your kind"

Thanks

41

Mark1,

10/07/2007 13:25:48

Pedant, I fail to see your points!

Hearts are bigger than Hibs, I guess you maybe slightly angle towards implying that in your rant about "we are both small fish in a small pond".....

The fact of the matter is that Christophe Berra said Hearts "definitely the biggest in Edinburgh,"

This fact is not open to debate.

http://www.roymorgan.com/news/press-releases/2006/490/

These figures were published last year, making Hearts the 18th best supported club in the UK.

By far the 3rd most supported club in Scotland, well ahead of Aberdeen in 4th and hibs in 5th.

I don't know why we need a petty argument every time someone from the Hearts camp makes a perfectly legitimate comment?

42

Robbo27_22,

Edinburgh 10/07/2007 13:35:32

I hope you are looking for a cohesive response now that facts have been introduced to the argument.

It send Hibs fans catatonic. Just like their derby form in the 80's and 90's never happened.

43

victor ian,

10/07/2007 13:38:24

facts mean very little to the average hobo. they don't recognise them.

also, you can't reason with a hobo, especially pedantic hibee.

44

Mark1,

10/07/2007 13:40:35

The only thing Hibs fans seem to be able to come back with in this argument is

"Hearts debt is bigger"

Well, seeing is how I didn't become a football fan to compare balance sheets I will stick to :

trophies,
attendances,
number of fans,
head to head record,
most games won,
number of internationalists,
etc etc etc

incidently, I don't really see why it seems to grate on Hibs fans, at the end of the day, being the biggest club in Edinburgh means what?......it makes no odds. It is just a simple fact of life like death and taxes.

45

Pedantic,

Edinburgh City Centre (Panama City temporarily) 10/07/2007 14:08:48

15 PH,

I wouldn't say Hibs are a small club. In Scottish terms they are the 4th largest at the moment from a total of 42 so that puts them into the top 10%.

Without question however, Hearts are the 3rd largest club with the potential to increase the gap between them and Hibs, but not to catch the OF. Unless of course, the OF start losing all the time when their "fans" will desert them in droves like they have done in the past.

46

CBJambo,

10/07/2007 14:24:01

#32

The bigger picture?!

It is called having ambition

Something that is quite clearly lost on you.

47

JamboJohnny,

10/07/2007 14:50:54

#45, No no no. Hibs are not the 4th largest at the moment. You finished technically 6th last season I'm afraid

48

my chosen name is not available...,

10/07/2007 15:20:04

I'm not into the big team, wee team stuff. However Hearts fans have definitely owned the bragging rights in Edinburgh for as long as I can remember, even just going by our massive lead in head-to-heads. It's a concept Hibs fans don't seem to get - that you have to *earn* your bragging rights.

Just taking the last 30 years... when Hibs have gone 22 games unbeaten by Hearts, taken the league to the last game, finished third more than any other club, won the SC twice, split the OF, got to the group stages in the UEFA Cup (much of this done when both teams were the same size financially, ie pre-Romanov) then we can talk about the two teams being of similar stature. Right now, Hibs have a lot of catching up to do.

49

what a chancer,

abdn 10/07/2007 15:24:07

how about who played well over the last season or is it that poor we cant discuss the fact that we were both well behind the top three

50

my chosen name is not available...,

10/07/2007 15:30:51

Speak for yourself, Hearts took the fight for third place down to the wire long after Hibs gave up the ghost, but yes both teams underperformed last season. Both are still capable of taking points off the OF though which means there is hope the league will be closer.

51

Jamboi,

Edin 10/07/2007 15:50:57

I guess it all boils down to History and ambition.

History has been illustrated in the previous posts...

"trophies,
attendances,
number of fans,
head to head record,
most games won,
number of internationalists,
etc etc etc"

And then you have ambition...

"I still think Hibs and Hearts are far smaller than we should be.

We know we're a small club, and as such, most of us are happy to settle for it. It's about time most Hearts fans realised that about their team as well."


It is abundantly clear that in order to grow and reach a higher level we need to be heavily funded but if all goes acording to plan then we will have a larger weekly income from larger crowds watching a more successful team. The other option is to accept your place in the natural order of things as a little bitch to be slapped about by the bullies from the west...No-brainer in my opinion.

52

gorgeousgorgieboy,

10/07/2007 16:06:35

An anagram of Christophe Berra.

"Crap Hibs rot here "

53

Fit o' the walk Jambo,

Leith 10/07/2007 16:17:53

#5 pendatic Hobo. Try 2 trophy's in 8 years unlike 2 3rd rate trophy's you've won in 16 years.Don't try and make out your club is on a level pegging with us either as that is deludedness and could only come from a jumped up Hobo out of his place like you are. Check your records in the last 30 years and decide who is the big club in Edinburgh.With the worst derby record in the world and always in our shadow it certainly ain't you hobo muppets!!

54

1875 Always 1 better than the Hertz,

10/07/2007 16:31:23

#53

We would'nt want to make out our club is in any way near the level of debt your lots in

How many trophies in the last 50 years sonny

Hibbies to the fore again as the yam fudderies languish in the piggery

GIRUY YAM FUDDERIES

55

scorchio,

West of the Pecos 10/07/2007 16:31:53

This article is about Hearts moving forward--life after Pressley and co and a coming together of the squad and yet we see the highjackers in full flight again.
Some of the Hibs lads coming on here are interesting and funny. Alas too many are just talking mince on a regular basis. That said some of the hostility shown to those posting today is OTT.
May I suggest that instead of getting personal, you chose to ignore some of Leiths more undesireable elements. I do!

56

what a chancer,

abdn 10/07/2007 17:16:29

I hope there is more entertaining football this season coming as i feel starved at the moment i do wish for a top striker to come through the ranks as it has been a long time overdue.

57

Do you know where hell is?,

10/07/2007 20:21:18

#54 come on m8 have a word....how many trophies in the last 50 years! ffs i would say 99% of us on here are under 50.

You love hibs and i love hearts, that is a given but some of the verbal sh*t spouted by hibbys is getting beyond a joke.

My club was dead in the water pre romanov so everday after is a blessing and i for one will enjoy it while it lasts.

If as all of you hibbys predict, the club dies and vlad does a runner i am sure you wil all wet yourselves. But what if he does what he says he will? thats the real worry for you lot.

58

badger,

10/07/2007 21:32:31

agreed #57

59

DSA,

USA 10/07/2007 21:33:33

Common knowledge in here I am a Hearts fan for over 50 years. Healthy banter can be fun between rival teams.

My own perspective is that if the Hearts cannot win something - I would far rather see the Hibs win - just for Edinburgh's sake - as I have always detested the monopoly the OF has held over the Scottish game throughout the decades. With the exception of Jock Stein's years with Selltick.

Some of the posters in here are painful to read... all you do is rearrange a few other words around various amalgamations of "big" and "wee" So bluddy boringly repetetive. Hearts and Hibs fans are equally to blame.

Scorchio and I always disagree over VR's dictatorial destruction of the team by insisting on meddling with player selection - however I am with him this time on the point he makes in his post #55 regarding OTT hostility.

Some of you kids aught to try to watch the Monty Python episode about the "Argument Clinic" Areal argument is much more than merely saying the opposite of what your opponent says....

Do not say it's not because it is !

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Another bad day for hibs,

Above hibs 11/07/2007 10:06:11

#54. What kind of medication are you on?

Do you think that you give yourself some credibility by referring to someone else as "sonny", what a joke you are! Even the name you give yourself is laughable because it is so far from the truth.

How can you claim hobos to the fore? On what evidence do you base this hillarious claim? What I see is Hearts have a stronger squad for next season, mainly due to the return of Pinilla and the clearing up of long term injuries to Chesney and Beslija. This is going to be more than enough to keep the hobbits in our shadow again. Particularly as hibs continue to sell their best players and replace them with lower league rejects.

Just for the record, Hearts trophies over the past 50 years, 2 league titles, 2 Scottish cups and 3 League cups when it was worth winning. Also 6 times runners up in the league.

Over the same period, hibs have er........won 3 League Cups and been runners up in the league once. You must be very proud of your team!

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Another bad day for hibs,

Above hibs 11/07/2007 10:36:04

#66. You idiot! the hobbits actually managed runners up 3 times during the past 50 years.


 

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