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Published Date: 31 July 2008
MIXU PAATELAINEN today revealed how he is battling to trim his Easter Road squad having deemed "eight or nine" players not good enough to play for Hibs.
He urged those concerned to move on for the sake of their careers rather than simply see out their contracts in Edinburgh.

Paatelainen has told each of them they have no future at the club although he today declined to identify the individuals concerned.

It is known, however, that Hibs will listen to offers for striker Clayton Donaldson, brought in by former boss John Collins on a three-year deal last summer, while another of his signings, Thierry Gatheussi, has featured in only one of the club's pre-season matches.

Paatelainen is determined to oversee a smaller, higher quality squad, releasing striker Mickael Antoine-Curier and midfielder Patrick Noubissie at the end of last season along with a number of youngsters such as Ally Brown, Dermot McCaffrey and Keegan Ayre. But, even so, there are others who won't be considered for first team action by Paatelainen, who would be hoping to use the wages freed up by departures to bring further new faces to the club following the arrivals this week of Joe Keenan and Steven Thicot.

He said: "There are eight or nine players I believe are not good enough, simple as that.

|I have spoken to each of them and told them it would be better if they were to seek a position elsewhere.

"They will not play for this football club and it does not help anyone because we have too many players."

Paatelainen admitted, however, it was a difficult situation with players enjoying the comfort of a contract, but he insisted it would be in the best interest of each of those concerned to find themselves a new club.

He said: "If they want to sit it out for a year or two their career may be finished, so those players should look to themselves because they will not play here."

Paatelainen acknowledged Hibs had lost a plethora of talent over the past three years with the talents of Scott Brown, Kevin Thomson, Steven Whittaker, David Murphy and Garry O'Connor attracting large massive fees while others such as Chris Killen, Derek Riordan, Gary Caldwell and, most recently, Guillaume Beuzelin had moved on. He has been left with the unenviable task of rebuilding but believes he has made moves in the right direction with the captures of Keenan and Thicot with his next priority being a striker to beef up his strikeforce.

Paatelainen stressed, however, that today's revelation was not a knee-jerk reaction to what has been a difficult pre-season, culminating in a 3-0 defeat by First Division Clyde last night, but the result of his evaluation over the past few months of the squad he inherited.

As disappointed as he was by the latest set-back, Paatelainen insisted there were signs at Broadwood that the pieces were beginning to fall into place ahead of the new season as he urged supporters to get behind his players in the two remaining friendlies, against Middlesbrough on Saturday and Wigan Athletic on Tuesday.

He admitted, though, that the players confidence had taken a tumble. He said: "What was pleasing last night was the way we started the game, the way we passed the ball was good and I thought it was starting to come and I am sure it will come."

Slack defending cost Hibs the first goal after just 16 minutes and after that Paatelainen admitted it became something of a struggle for his players who have failed to score a goal in their six pre-season games.

He said: "It was a big blow after the positive start and I can understand the players being knocked off balance by it. But if ever everyone needs support it's now. We need to stay really positive, a negative attitude will only heap pressure on the players and that does not help.

"We created lots of chances but were not as sharp or as ruthless as we should have been. I know people will look at the result and say 'rubbish,' but if you look beyond the result there were positive signs. It's a matter of taking the bull by the horns, realising what we need to do better and it will happen."


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  • Last Updated: 31 July 2008 11:00 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Hibernian FC
 
1

Reasoned Debate,

31/07/2008 11:25:41
What a ridiculous heading for this article. By no stretch of the imagination can any of these players be described as "Stars". Yes, Mixu inherited some of these players, but he also brought some of them in. Interesting that he is willing to let a striker (Damon Gray) go on loan to Partick yet we have not scored a single goal in pre season. Our goals against is not too clever either. The signs are not good !!
2

Pazuzu,

31/07/2008 11:27:21
Aye..aye...aye....clearout time.

Definately one of them : Kerr - GTF.

Hibee till I die tho.

GGTTH
3

Ex-Pat Stanton,

31/07/2008 11:32:23
Wow, we got 'large massive fees' for allthose players...

Yeah that's right large massive and so we spend wee tiny amounts replacing them. WHat on Earth did Petrie think was going to happen the bargain basement players brought in would put on Hibs strips and POW become superstars?

Petrie GTF now, end of.
4

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31/07/2008 11:37:34
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hibbyspurs,

31/07/2008 11:39:50
8 or 9? My figure currently runs a bit higher than that!

Jokers running Easter Road who obviously having seen how the Hearts fans take it from their owner felt we would gladly oblige by bending over ourselves.

Wrong....

SACK THE BOARD!!

Are you seeing any of this Rod? How does it feel to be the most unpopular person in a long time at Easter Road.

SACK THE BOARD!!
6

LTYF,

31/07/2008 11:41:16
"As disappointed as he was by the latest set-back, Paatelainen insisted there were signs at Broadwood that the pieces were beginning to fall into place ahead of the new season"

What pieces? Mixu, we got gubbed 3-0!!!!!
7

104 years in a row!!,

Edinburgh 31/07/2008 11:41:40
Tee Hee
8

kennyt,

31/07/2008 11:41:59
its a bit late in the day mixu to start trimming the sqaude season starts next week how has he not noticed
by now that some players are not good enough to wear the green come mixu get a grip before it is to late bottom 6 looms !!!!!!!
9

Pazuzu,

31/07/2008 11:42:27
JamboJohnny:

I see the keyboard drooler has arrived.
Whassup, think you Yam's are going to be alright now?
Hah-fkn-hah!
Do you think your manager (loose term) is the messiah?
WRONG - New manager - same puppet.
And still one of the most HATED teams in the SPL.

Silly boy, run along now.

GGTTH
10

StevieG,

sydney 31/07/2008 11:46:30
Quote from Mixu adding: “We are trying to pass the ball, but perhaps some of our players are not yet or perhaps never will be good enough to do .

The mans a visionary
11

Bzzzz,

Edinburgh 31/07/2008 11:57:54
Ha ha ha ha... the mighty Cowden strike again!

Ha ha ha, Hibs are pash ! ! ! cannae wait for the derby...
12

Gorgie's Finest,

31/07/2008 12:00:32
It's took Mixu 7 MONTHS to realise he nees to trim his squad?

What a manager....

A week to go until the season starts as well, talk about disasters......
13

I BELIEVE,

TOGETHER 31/07/2008 12:03:13
# 9 Pazuzu,

Take it like a man, typically HOBO wants to dish it out not to clever when it's coming back at you.
14

Jambo Number 1,

31/07/2008 12:04:11
ROFL MMMMwwwwwwhhhaaaa
15

SouthSideHibs,

31/07/2008 12:05:05
Why doesn't he just say who they are???

Has Kerr featured? Surely he must be one of the players not wanted.
16

The Hallucinist,

31/07/2008 12:14:20
Can Mixu not just do a player swap with Clyde? Or better still, a squad swap?
17

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31/07/2008 12:16:10
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Saturday Sammy,

Port O`Leith 31/07/2008 12:18:14
I have said now on a number of occasions that the spirit in the dressing room has gone and it`s an understatement to suggest that confidence is low. The on-field atmosphere of the players as early as the Elfsborg tie was despicable. The spirit of a squad primarly is driven by the Manager and sustained by him too. Poor results obviously undermine that `spirit` (if it ever existed) so we now are in an extremely difficult position approaching the Kilmarnock game. Most people with an interest in football will know that it is a very tough task to arrest a slide and from the outside looking in, I don`t think it`s gonna happen short of an amazing turnaround in attitudes and personnel. That`s on the field .......... off the park I charge Rod Petrie with willful neglect and have contracted workmen to rebuild the stocks in the Grassmarket. The Guilottine would be too quick.
19

The Hallucinist,

31/07/2008 12:18:56
#17 With the exception of hibs or rangers
20

Gorgie's Finest,

31/07/2008 12:20:01
#17

That make you feel all better about your current disaster at easter road does it?

Typical hobo, no matter how bad a crisis hibs are having as long as you can still Have a pop at Hearts it makes everything disapear

Away down to porty and bury that head of yours firmly in the sand
21

Warrnambool Hibee,

31/07/2008 12:22:16
Scarey thing is if 8-9 players "will not play football for this club", we can assume they are all players who have not or atleast barely featured in any of our dismall pre-season games. How useless must they be!

What does it say when your manager cannot get rid of players, let along bring in players?

How hard can it be to off-load players... they surely can't be on that big of contracts at Hibs that they do not want to leave. Cut our losses, offload the 9 of them to Montrose for free and use the freed up funds to get another 2-3 decent players.
22

The Hallucinist,

31/07/2008 12:24:30
#21 yep hibs are pash and in a real predicament
23

True Jambo,

31/07/2008 12:26:48
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

mixu is the fat fin while Niemi was known as the flying fin.

There is no class at feaster road never was.
24

MaroonToon,

31/07/2008 12:34:22
#9# PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
25

Indy Rep Kid,

31/07/2008 12:35:39
#17

Is that a bad thing?
26

Hibernia,

31/07/2008 12:37:24
There have been some of the 8-9 (Im sure Hibs fans have a fairly good idea who they are)that never kicked a ball for Hibs in the first place never mind not kicking a ball for the club again. Still the likes of Kerr being utter gash managed to stick the ball in the back of the Jambos net other than that moment he is no great loss.

Also I do find it quite funny that people call Mixu fat especially when you see the size of Nade in the picture on the Hearts storyboard and Nade is the one still meant to be a professional footballer. Mixu's allowed to be fat he's retired.
27

Pazuzu,

31/07/2008 12:38:30
I BELIEVE,TOGETHER:

You keep believing, kn0b.
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JamboJohnny,

31/07/2008 12:43:13
#27 - Panty-Poo-poo

Focus on this thread. We are discussing Hibs yet you stoop to having a pop at Hearts because it makes you feel better about the disaster thats about to unfold down Fester Rd way.

No goals in 10 hours of football eh mUch4ch0?

I thought you were the flair team?

Petrie is tighter than an otters pocket!

ARF ARF ARF
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Phil MaGlass,

Holland 31/07/2008 12:45:45
NAME the players,the fans will do the rest, it will free up some cash and mibbe we can sign REAL quality
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31/07/2008 12:47:01
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SouthSideHibs,

31/07/2008 12:48:02
#21 we can't offload and save money! That's the predicament.

If we off-load, we need to pay their contracts up in full, meaning we're well out of pocket.

Things will get a lot worse before they get better.

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Green07,

Edinburgh 31/07/2008 12:49:56
Its now starting to sink in that Mixu hasn`t got a clue how to put a team on the park, get back to a
4-4-2 system and ditch that diamond mince that you ask them to play.

As for Mr Petrie he is the main culprit in all of this
sell big and bring in players who have been unloaded because they are cr*p for free, l wonder if Mr Petrie puts a ceilling on his wages every year......he`s not worth a bolt but still earns a good living milking our team for his gain. Do the right thing and resign.
33

1875 true,

31/07/2008 12:51:25
This could have duffy season all over it,remember last pre season when we were banging them in and carried it on for the 1st 10 games of the season not a great season going to have to come up with the £ for good players or have us the fans turn against the board this is not mixus fault the heads are down and need to be raised this could be done by 3-4 known quality players i would hate to see us go down the route of our neighbors but release the Cash and get the fans and club together again.
34

Zugspitze,

31/07/2008 13:01:56
Hearts are the most hated team in the SPL, huh? Can't see a problem. Since when did being popular score goals? Sorry but I'd rather be hated and a winner than pitied, popular and a loser!

But hey, whatever makes you feel better!
35

Gorgie Forever,

31/07/2008 13:10:20
Jambo in peace.

Who would you like to epmty from the squad? Seems to me the signings since mowbray left have been pretty average. I think Petrie is right in keeping the finances stable but surely he should loosen the purse strings a bit.

A long hard season ahead down edinburgh way.
36

Zugspitze,

31/07/2008 13:22:08
# 35 - You are quite right, It seems both of the Edinburgh teams have self-destructed as of late and it could be a dire season in the capital city. Still, it could make for interesting derbys!
37

Amburno,

31/07/2008 13:24:13
Not too sure if this is the best approach to take saying that 8-9 players should leave. It won't make other clubs (who might be interested) negotiate very hard on a price! Surely Petrie's tash will be twitching at this comment from Mixu.

Plus there seems to be little man management going on just now, motivation, team spirit etc

I could take the doom and gloom perspective and say that it almost looks as though Mixu is wanting to get himself sacked (with a pay off) I'm sure he signed a 4 year deal.

On the other hand, if 8-9 of these players are creating a bad atmosphere at the club then this could be poisoning the other team players?

A big thing for me is the apparent lack of effort/willingness from some players, nish and fletch specifically and Jones's attitude is just shocking.

Wee team (I hear the jambo's say) but Big problems is what we have.

To quote a rapper, Jay Z was right, more money, more problems
38

East at Easter,

Edinburgh 31/07/2008 13:26:39
fact is, BOTH Hibs and Yams are in for a stinker of a season. Sooner everyone gets their heads round this the better.
39

Amburno,

31/07/2008 13:27:40
#35

Players away

Zibi, Kerr, Hong Kong Thiery, Jones, Benji, Canning, McNeil (not ready yet), Rankin (jury's out just now) Nish (although a change in effort and application would do)
40

Gorgie Forever,

31/07/2008 13:56:48
#39

At least you would only need to get rid of 8 or 9! I could double that down our way just for a start. Certainly I think Jones is living on borrowed time, far too overrated and Benji is your answer to Pinilla. It cant be easy working with so little money but that isn't really an excuse for Mixu or Collins. We have thrown huge money at dross due to bad management. I agree with a previous poster who questioned the man management, to me Mixu doesn't seem to exude the right prescence or confidence.

Thats not to say I think we are in any position to laugh at the moment but maybe feeling a wee bit better than at the end of last season.
41

Eighteen Seventy-Four,

31/07/2008 14:01:32
38. Youd be better concentrating on how dire things are looking at ER.

Away dig a hole at Porty for your heid, you'l no doubt bump into the other usual hobo posters there.
42

NYC Hibee,

edinburgh 31/07/2008 14:03:29
I don't have much faith in Mixu. I think we've as good a squad as any other club outside the OF and certainly good enough to beat Cowdenbeath and Clyde. I'm afraid the problem lies with motivation and tactics. Much as I like Mixu, I feel he has to hold his hands up. Maybe the board feel the same and are reluctant to give him cash to waste!
43

Balernojambo,

edinburgh 31/07/2008 14:10:48
Oh what the hell
Tick Tock, flats, nae manager, tescos, BPBS, Just cant wait for the season to start.
Well done the reserves last night. Good draw away from home.
44

Pazuzu,

31/07/2008 15:18:19
RubberJamboJohnny:

Ssshhhh...Adult's talking.

I DO concentrate on Hibs threads, solely.
When I comment on the Yak / Yam's thread it's in retaliation. End of.

Now get to work @r$3h@lf.

GGTTH

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sexy sue,

edinburgh 31/07/2008 15:24:37
Same old story Petrie happy to get players in if they cost nothing and pay a wage under £3000 per wk . What do we get for than S**** we still need a goalkeeper who can keep goals out and a striker that can score goals . Petrie take of the green tint glasses and give Mixu some money for players up the wage bill bring back Riordan. The fans would rather have a good team than a new east stand .
So come on you run the club for the fans the fans have told you what they want so get of you a*** and delivery the goods or get out
46

107 yrs and counting!,

East Lothian 31/07/2008 15:39:49
my predictions are Hearts will have a steady season finishing 4th while Hobos finish 8th maybe worse!
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31/07/2008 15:42:24
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Hibbee_with_a_heart,

In a pink mist 31/07/2008 16:18:18
My mind's just been wandering as I cut the hedge.

31st July No money spent on transfers

31st July End of Hibs financial year

Accounts to 31st July 2008 will look good to potential buyer.

Are Rod and the farmer planning a sell-off this year?

Will money be spent from tomorrow on players?

Is the sun too hot just now?

Is the Stella that has been washing the flies from my throat too strong for me?

Should I lie down now or wait till I fall

What the hell am I embarrassing myself on a public website for?

Can someone help me please. I'm stuck up a ladder with a power tool that could cause me serious damage somewhere south of Edinburgh.

Mind you damage south of Edinburgh is far less serious than damage south of the belly button.

HELP!!!!!!

49

Hibbee_with_a_heart,

With the mist lifting 31/07/2008 16:34:33
Seriously though, let's not forget that Tom Farmer is not a football man but he still came to Hibs rescue for community reasons. You don't look at football club with a view to recouping what you put into it unless you are looking to land values or property development. We can't blame Sir Thomas of that. The time is long past where that was an option. But let's be clear, it's one thing putting money in to save something but it's another to put additional cash in afterwards. I agree that it is time for us to return to a football establishment in all areas of the business and to return to unreal finances that that implies, but lets not lose sight of the fact that what Hibs got the last few seasons was what Hibs needed. The people involved in that are to be thanked, and thanked a lot. Now we need to move on, but let's do it in conjunction with the owners not in opposition to them.

Tom, Rod, are you up for it?
50

Dublin 7 Hibby,

Myles away from Dublin 31/07/2008 17:00:34
Hibee with Heart,

I feel your pain, bro. I'm half way up an office block in Dublin. Problem may not be Petrie - may be Uncle Tom. He is a shrewd business man with a heart, but his charity is put in the right places - which is not into a football club. So he issues the strategy and the tight financial constraints and Petrie implements the strategy and works to the constraints.

A sale may be no bad thing. The Farmer has done his bit and now it's maybe time to move on. Sell to someone or some group who want to invest and speculate to accumulate. There IS spare cash! Sacriligiously, if I bought Hibs I would make Petrie my 1st signing. He is funking good at his job!!
51

Indy Rep Kid,

31/07/2008 17:04:45
#50

"I'm half way up an office block in Dublin"

Cleaning windows?
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Jambo Dave,

Edinburgh 31/07/2008 17:06:44
There are a lot of Hibbies on here who still have to compare themselfs with Hearts and think and hope we have a bad season.Just do a wee test write down your first pick 11 and then write a hearts 11.Who would win a player by player team?I think you will find it would have more maroon than green if your honest.
This is one Jambo with both feet on the ground but I think the vibes from Tynie are 100 times better than Easter Road at the momment but time will tell.
A way is to take your hard earned cash to the bookie and tell him you think Hibs will be above Hearts next season.You will get good odds.
JT till I die.
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Indy Rep Kid,

31/07/2008 17:14:16
#52

To be honest, I reckon it would be a 0-0 draw and the worst game in history!
54

kiwidoug,

22 In A Row 31/07/2008 17:21:34
What a relief. No mention of Zibby in the article.

Hopefully he will still be the custodian for this years' derbys.
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Dublin 7 Hibby,

Myles away from Dublin 31/07/2008 17:23:40
Indy Rep Kid

Doing a business case actually - on the inside of the building - not as interesting as window cleaning.

In truth, both our clubs have problems though they do differ. The similarity is that I don't think either club will prosper with the current owners. Difference is that I really do think Vlad is capable of killing Hearts
56

wish,

easynow 31/07/2008 17:26:51
WHATS THE POINT IN HAVING A £5 MILLION STATE OF THE ART TRAINING FACILITY AND FILL IT WITH THIRTY BOB DUDS THAT HAVE BEEN RELEASED FROM THEIR FORMER CLUBS,YOU ONLY GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR,AND AT THE MOMENT YOU ALL CAN SEE WHAT WE HAVE GOT ( RUBBISH )SO WAKE UP PETRIE AND GET YOUR FINGERS IN THE BISCUIT TIN OR WE WILL SUFFER BIGTIME THIS SEASON AND THE NEXT AND THE NEXT. TILL YOU ( PETRIE )NO YOU HAVE F----D UP ITS ALL RIGHT HAVING A NICE MODERN STADIUM BUT IT WILL BE EMPTY IF YOU CONTINUE DOWN THIS TRAGIC ROAD,THE TWO SHOULD GO TOGETHER FACILITIES AND TALENTED FOOTBALL IF NOT IT ALL ENDS IN TEARS.
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Indy Rep Kid,

31/07/2008 17:28:03
#55

thinking about expanding the cleaning business?

Both clubs are mince. Hibs are falling and a good season for Hearts will be us not getting any worse.

The real tragedy is that it leaves the way for hopeless clubs like Motherwell and Falkirk to look good.

That cannot be allowed!!
58

Dublin 7 Hibby,

Myles away from Dublin 31/07/2008 17:33:35
#57.

Touché - good call.

Another difference is that our expectations were so much higher than yours so we have so much further to fall. I'll give you one point - your ex-players are better managers than ours!
59

Dood,

31/07/2008 17:39:19
#49 Hibee with a Heart

Best post in a while, summed the situation up quite well I thought.

I also think there's substance in the accounts theory - Hibs do tend to do more business after 31/07 to balance the books slightly better and I have a suspicion that this may be the case again this year with a view to a prospective sale.

#56 - Turn the caps lock off please, you've given me a headache!!

Sadly, and what a few folk seemed to have missed is that four/five years ago Hibs were staring into a financial abyss. Things have been turned round massively to the extent that the infrastructure has nearly been completed off the park. We have been very fortunate to have had good young players to sell and aid this over the period of time, but to consistently improve the off-the-park situation has taken very good management. We're now not too far away from being in a position where ALL of our dosh will go on the playing side. Sadly, we couldn't have done both at the same time.

Yes, I'm slightly frustrated by last seasons performance which I roundly blame on Collins, but hey ho - sometimes managers don't work out. Mowbray was very good and a hard act to follow, Mixu has to pick up the pieces and he did that reasonably well last year considering what he inherited.

Bottom line - season ticket bought in May as it has been every year and will continue to be. Mixu will have my support for the time being until.

GGTTH
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Dood,

31/07/2008 17:55:34
#60 - Aye, and add the Rangers to that list - Cracking joke last night at Ibronx. I'm still tittering. Genius, well done!!!!!
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Indy Rep Kid,

31/07/2008 17:58:20
#60

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Dublin 7 Hibby,

Myles away from Dublin 31/07/2008 18:28:57
Dood,

Well made points.....but I still think that whilst Tom Farmer was a great man to save and turnaround a business - his heart isn't in growing it & expanding. That is why I would like to see someone with financial acumen, but also willing to speculate, come in at this point. However, like yourself, I have the incurable disease (no, not that one!) and will continue to show up on a Saturday

GGTTH
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jmcmil,

31/07/2008 18:35:05
Posted on our other thread by me

Quote from the article "Having delivered a stinging rebuke of his faltering stars following the shock defeat by Cowdenbeath two days earlier, Paatelainen was again raging at their ineptitude after watching them concede three goals to Clyde, a side which had to battle for First Division survival last season."

Message for Mixu - shouting won't correct what lies in your control. It's your team. You give the places. You manage and coach the preparation. You must stand by your decisions, tactics and player choice. I think what you are saying is - we do not have good enough players. If that is so, you must take part blame.

Message for the board - you sold our best players over a period of time. Now is the time to replace quality with quality. I thought long and hard about my Season Ticket for this coming season during the Collins fiasco. I am now happy I cut of my nose to spite my face. For this season I am pay at the gate. I will follow my own threat to make my protest by holding back my money until I content that I am getting value for money.

Message for the team - prove me wrong please
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Hibbee_with_a_heart,

Off the ladder and off the drink 31/07/2008 19:00:59
While we did suffer over the loss of Mowbray and subsequent good players, I do think we are now suffering for the loss of one person in particular, John Park. Petrie and co have never been free with the dosh for the team but we still managed to produce an exciting team for a while. Mowbray had the right view of the football style but it was Park who produced the players to translate it on the pitch. Of the people brought in by Mowbray I would rate only Murphy as a great buy. The rest of the outstanding players were found by Park.
The off-park footballing team have to be considered for improvement as much as the playing staff.(Start with goalkeeping coach that improves, not breaks a keeper) Buying good players can only be stop-gap for a team like Hibs but it is needed just now. You just need to look at the price Liverpool played for an OK striker in Keane to see that Hibs purchasing clout will never advance the club. Finding and developing young players will. When we have that again then lets spend the money on wages that make the players think twice about moving on.
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Man with no name,

31/07/2008 19:12:06
Hope hibs succeed in antti niemi bid,
we'd still do yams with the team we got,
67

Man with no name,

31/07/2008 19:33:25
Looks more than likely that the bad news guy, derek riordan will sign for yams, he is reportedly going through a medical,

watch this here space.
68

Dood,

31/07/2008 19:37:41
Sadly, nobody will ever agree on this, that's the beauty of football!!!

My final word would be with regard to something that #65 touches on.......

The GOALKEEPING COACH. What does he do? Since he came to the club, we have sufferred from hideous howlers in the sticks. Are all of our goalkeepers mince or are they being coached badly? I'd tend to sway towards the latter. Watch them training pre-match or at half time next time your at ER. The routine is frankly laughable.

Ian Westwater was a great GK coach but on top of that, was a gentleman and a HUGE public relations boost to the club. Ask the boys teams around the city. Westie was hugely respected. Conversely, Gordon Marshall is clearly not a good coach, but on top of that, is an arrogant to55er whose only motivation appears to be himself.

Rant over.

GGTTH
69

CLERRY G,

31/07/2008 19:45:01
sack the board!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
taking the utter pis$ now like!!!!
petrie do us all a favour and do one!!!!
who cares about a new east stand, no much point when nobodys going to be there to watch that gash!!!

rant over for today
70

thommo1875,

31/07/2008 19:49:23
sick to the back teeth of mixu finding positives in these results, ITS MADNESS.
i would like him to specify the positives, perhaps the fact that we held them to only three goals is one.
sort it out this is getting embarrising.
71

Dood,

31/07/2008 20:09:45
#70 - The sad thing is, he doesn't have to find positives. They're PRE-SEASON FRIENDLIES!!!! They are actually designed primarily to increase players match fitness.

I went to my first pre-season game in a few years last season, hibs middlesborough. Frankly, both teams were an embarrasment to watch. I'll not be going back to another one again.
Why? Cause its a training exercise.
72

Plantagenet,

31/07/2008 20:38:11
Mixu wants to get rid of 8 or 9 'stars', do you think that 'stars' is the correct terminology for these players? how about descriptions using words like useless, inept or coundnae score in a brothel wi a fifty pound note stickin' oot o' his pocket. Mind you Mixu himself is described as a manager, now surely that is a joke. As a player he was a bull in a china shop, completely devoid of talent or class, so how would he know a good player if he saw one?
73

Dood,

31/07/2008 20:40:51
#73 - Forgotton something, Janet, Eh?

A wee hat trick? No? Not coming back to you?

74

John H,

edinburgh 31/07/2008 20:44:17
Mixu is dead right. To many of them are not up to playing for Hibs. Getting them to move might not be so easy though. What Mixu needs to realise is that the fans will respond if the game is played the correct way. The creativity we had was stolen from us by the OF when we were becoming a real threat to them and desperately needs to be replaced. The Board have done most things for the good of the club very well but even they must realise that investment in the team is now paramount.
For the club to move forward there has to be change.
A bit more ambition wouldn't go amiss either.
75

Plantagenet,

31/07/2008 20:48:28
74. One off! remember Mark De Vries and he is a big haddie too.
76

Hobo-in-Hell,

STOKE 31/07/2008 20:49:31
MIXU IS A JAMBO !!

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK SON
77

Hobo-in-Hell,

STOKE 31/07/2008 20:51:51
WHATS WORSE, PLAYIG FOR THE HOBO AMATEURS OR BEING TOLD YOUR NOT EVEN THAT GOOD.

NO POINT BLAMING 6 PACK HES GONE,

MIXU COME ON GIVE US A FIGHT THIS SEASON !!!


78

First Minister,

Dumfries 31/07/2008 20:52:44
Just heard, O Brien, Donaldson,Benji, Zemmama, Kerr, Zibi, Gathuessi, poss Canning, Rankin and Nish Are up for sale and McCann and Stevenson to go on loan!!
Sounds like He has lost the dressing room.
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Plantagenet,

31/07/2008 21:11:19
80. C'mon fella, that's a bit strong, live and let live, I'm a Jambo but like every Hearts fan we need rivals and the Hibbys fit the bill. I must correct you on one point though, Hibernia is the old name for Ireland, not part of it, this might cheer you up though, the native tongue there is Irish Gaelic commonly known as 'E - R - S -E', true, look it up, sorry about the hyphens - had difficulty getting this word through the censor.
82

Sir Albertt x2,

31/07/2008 21:39:09
Edinburgh buses use to be green as well, until First Buses brought all the regions together and made them one. Either that or some thieving gypsie jambo nicked them. All decent Jambos, sorry,but the wee girl in STOKE?? must be a Rankgers fan or something and is p#####g me off.
83

Neutral Observer,

31/07/2008 23:06:51
#79 First Minister

Rabbie Burns spent a lot of his life in Dumfries and he told a few fine tales too. Some of the names on your list are just not credible and are a definate work of fiction.

From your list you can delete:

Zemmama, Rankin, Nish and Canning. Probably also O'Brien too, given that he has played a lot in the pre-season games.

Let me give you 8 or 9 candidates that Mixu might have told to move on.

Gatheussi
Donaldson
Kerr
Malkowski
Lynch
Chisholm
Campbell
Stevenson
McCormack

Not saying I agree with these names, but this is what I think Mixu will have done.

Mixu's mistakes? So far he has signed players that are either not up to the job or he cannot instil confidence into them:

Rankin - one dimensionable and powderpuff
Hanlon - tentative and lost confidence after a promising first game
Canning - solid enough if not always aware in the box
Murray - tries hard as always but not very talented
Nish - big disappointment - slow and disinterested
Thicot - not sure if he will be better in a better team



84

Jasbar,

01/08/2008 01:41:25
#49 you must be tom farmer in disguise. No other explanation for writing that drivel.

Farmer's lived long enough on his community spirit gig. He's hardly suffered a financial loss for his actions. So let's not get pious.

As an owner Farmer is a disgrace. He is not a natural winner. He lacks ambition. He may be raking in potential profit from his land and infrastructure deals, but he fools no one.

How long before fans say enough is enough and stop turning out to watch the drivel on the park.

The current players are not necessarily bad players. But the current management lacks the ability to motivate them. They are just not performing to any level far less what they're capable of.

We need an inspirational playmaker. Someone who can drive the team forward, make others play, and create the chances for the strikers.

That requires maturity, vision and ability. And that would be worth paying handsomely for.

85

Jasbar,

01/08/2008 01:53:16
Perhaps I should add that I don't want Farmer to have a "Saul on the road to Damascus" moment and try to turn things around.

I want him OUT. I want him replaced by someone who understands the game, and gets a thrill from it.
86

Warrnambool Hibee,

01/08/2008 04:08:44
How things change:

12 months ago Collins was a legend - Great String of Pre-season results

6 months ago Collins was rubbish - couldn't buy a win

3 months ago Mixu was a legend - got Hibs back into Euro Contention.

Now Mixu is rubbish - Appaling pre-season results and cannot buy a goal let alone a win

Do managers abilities change so quickly?
Are the players to blame?
Are we just fickle?
Is this the normal nature of football?
Do Hibs problems extend well beyong the manager?

87

Plantagenet,

01/08/2008 10:16:04
88. Maybe Hibs have got it the wrong way round? instead of making a former Hibs legend boss take a rubbish player, make him boss and perhaps he'll become a legendary manager, after all, Hibs have plenty former players in that category. Tortolano for manager?
88

Neutral Observer,

01/08/2008 10:26:13
#88 Warmingtoyou Hibbee

Obviously there are more questions than answers!

Having attended the match against Clyde on Wednesday and watched Hibs play some neat football but without any heart, I can see that their confidence is shot and thay need a win to restore that. They are unlikely to get that in the next games v Middlesborough and Wigan. The manager can only do so much, but shouting and lecturing will not help too much at this stage. Time to employ a sports psychologist and accentuate the positive. Too many players are just not playing to their capabilities. viz van Zanten, Hogg, Fletcher and Nish while some others are just not suitable for the teamwork needed eg Rankin & O'Brien. With Rankin and O'Brien on the left, young Hanlon is left dreadfully exposed as the opposing team can surge through the left side and he is overwhelmed.

Needs to be sorted out fast!
89

Saturday Sammy,

Port O`Leith 01/08/2008 11:05:35
I see a trace of consistency developing in these comments that actually addresses the on-field issues at the club. Keeping it short and sweet, we have no midfield whatsoever. The net result is that it appears the defence and attack are to blame simply because we are losing goals and not scoring. The fact is we are NEVER in control of a game. I noticed several times last season that our defence was the hardest working unit of the team. A good defence with reasonable protection should never need to work so hard. It`s the protection part where we are lacking. There is no semblance of shape or balance in midfield and the strategy of playing long in the belief that we retain and recylce is frankly misconceived and disfunctional. In other words it`s a mess and I am amazed that the management and coaching team can`t see it. Several comments agree that Mixu appears to lack football know how ..... it does seem that way and unfortunetly his emotions have gotten the better of him if the evidence of his latest statement is scrutinsed as the pure frustration it represents. Lot`s wrong ..... difficult fix.

 

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