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Fine mess for Hibs



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Published Date: 12 May 2008
HIBS were today facing a £10,000 SFA fine after the Easter Road club's red card tally for the season soared into double figures as Martin Canning and Ian Murray were sent off at Celtic Park.
It was the second time in just three matches Hibs had ended a game with only nine players, Thierry Gathuessi and Colin Nish having been red carded during the clash with Aberdeen at Pittodrie a fortnight earlier.

Now Hibs' disciplinary record is ce
rtain to come under close scrutiny from the Hampden authorities who docked the Edinburgh club £5000 at the end of last season after ten players were sent for an early bath.

That fine was imposed after Hibs were warned in mid-season their behaviour would have to improve following an analysis by the SFA's disciplinary committee. Statistics are prepared based on the overall number of disciplinary points within each division incurred by each club in first-team league and cup matches.

Clubs with an average appreciably higher than that of their division come under scrutiny at the halfway point and they can have suspended fines applied if their records haven't improved or be warned in regard to their present record.

Hibs escaped such a warning when the committee examined disciplinary records at the midway point of this season, Capital rivals Hearts, who were fined a record £20,000 last summer, and Gretna being the only two SPL sides to be cautioned as to their behaviour. At that stage four Hibs players – Clayton Donaldson, Filipe Morais, Dean Shiels and Thierry Gathuessi – had been sent off, leaving the Easter Road outfit third bottom of the "Fair Play" League.

But since then Morais, Murray (twice), Gathuessi, Nish and Canning have seen red which will undoubtedly lead to sanctions being imposed.

If the SFA follow normal procedure last season's fine will be doubled, leading to a £10,000 penalty, Hearts' whopping £20,000 payout having been based on three successive seasons of ill-discipline, the sanction being doubled on each occasion.

Both Canning and Murray will now miss Hibs' last game of the season, against Motherwell on Thursday week, a game which the Edinburgh club had hoped would allow them to overhaul the Fir Park outfit to take third spot and a place in next season's UEFA Cup.

Motherwell's controversial win over Aberdeen allied to Celtic's 2-0 victory yesterday now means third place is beyond Hibs – who will enter the InterToto Cup in early July – but Paatelainen will be determined to claim fourth place with a win over Mark McGhee's side. Murray's red card will also have further implications with the utility man set to miss the start of next season as he has crossed the disciplinary points threshhold meaning that in addition to his one-match automatic ban a further suspension will carry over to the new campaign.

Paatelainen professed to have not seen the challenge by Canning on Celtic's Barry Robson which led to the Hibs star's second yellow card, but he admitted to disappointment that an experienced player like Murray had made the challenge he did on Aiden McGeady which saw him shown a straight red by referee Dougie McDonald with the game deep into injury time. He said: "If he wants to stop the opponent and hold up play, he knows he doesn't have to take a swing at him like that."





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  • Last Updated: 12 May 2008 11:59 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

LTYF,

12/05/2008 12:09:32
"If he wants to stop the opponent and hold up play, he knows he doesn't have to take a swing at him like that."

Aye he does, it's Aiden McGready we are talking about here!!!!!

I think the whole of Scotland cheered when Aiden got up ended!!
2

Edinburgh's Leith All Stars,

Edinburgh 12/05/2008 12:13:32
Who really cares in all honesty? it made my day to see Murray up ending that septic s*it.

Ian Murray you ARE my hero.
3

Franck,

12/05/2008 12:24:36
Who said that Hibs are indisciplined!
4

hibbywul,

12/05/2008 12:25:33
The only down side was McGeady got up.
5

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12/05/2008 12:27:18
Comment Removed By Administrator
Reason:
6

hibbyspurs,

12/05/2008 12:34:17
& with amazing regularity there he arrives....

Ohhh how I've missed you this weekend Dumbo... How did your team do in its top of the bottom clash? Yep whipped again!

Sadly no direct route to the UEFA for Hibs but at least we may still get there via the intertattie...

Enjoy your holiday to Wonderwest world Dumbo, no doubt paid for by others hard working tax money as your no doubt on the social... Let me know a few days before your next giros due as this will explain your abscence from these threads due to your PC/ Laptop being in the custody of Cash Generator once again.

Jog on you silly little boy and bother us reasonable people no more....
7

hibbywul,

12/05/2008 12:38:28
Robson and Hartley should have had second yellows also, but without sounding like Craig Levein, you can't win against these teams, the ref bottled it.
8

Dood,

12/05/2008 12:40:49
#6 hibbyspurs.

I'd just ignore this dreg on society. Frankly I'm getting rather bored of his pathetic rantings. He seems to be developing an unhealthy obsession with the Hibs - Have you ever seen him posting on a Hearts thread? I appreciate that some Jambos come on here on the 'wind-up' and I indulge in a little of that myself on their threads, but I reckon that you can tell by the content of his continuous bile, that he is a pathetic and inadequate human being. I'm blanking him - He's not really worth the effort.

And I bet he's got a small tadger.
9

Dragonlord,

12/05/2008 12:43:49
Ho,Ho,Hobo Dougie McDonald puts hibs in sh!T with red cards. There is one clown on a hibs forum claiming DmcD is a Jambo. Season ticket holder for the cow pat and he can't help them win a darkheed? He knows who his masters are ....the oF and alway will be.
10

Wise Old Hibby,

Edinburgh 12/05/2008 12:44:59
We can have no complaints about third spot. We had our chances against Dundee Utd and Aberdeen and we blew it. I thought it was all over a few weeks ago when they went to Parkhead and turned over Celtic. Fair play, well done Motherwell.
11

hibbyspurs,

12/05/2008 12:46:55
#8

how true...
12

Dood,

12/05/2008 12:57:02
Back to the fitba.

Hibs indiscipline this season has been shocking. I appreciate that one of two of the red cards have been questionable, but most have been fair. As previously stated, we blew our chance of third at Pittodrie when certain players lost the plot.

If the club is to be fined £10k then the players should pay for this. I'd be pretty p*ssed off if I thought that's where my season ticket moneys away to.
13

Silence of the Yams,

12/05/2008 13:03:20
13. I agree, the players should cough up the money.
14

hibbyspurs,

12/05/2008 13:08:19
Looks like Dumbo has gone to ground again after he realised his one syllable insults would get him nowhere expect his daily ridiculing.... Either that or his mammies no put 50p in the meter for their "pay as you watch" PC. Pity really I was looking forward to another afternoon of ripping him to shreds.

On Topic: Agree with #13, why should the club have to fork out for payers indiscipline. However I would imagine recovering the money via the players would involve fining them a weeks wages... Poor Martin Canning, his hoose will get repossesed at this rate.
15

Pazuzu,

12/05/2008 13:11:01
There's a conspiracy I tell ya.

I feel that there should have been at least on Smeltic player red carded, but alas. We were in Glasgow.

Don't get anything there but Buckfast and soap drought.

There's always next season, I hope we improve in front of goal.


just a jambo : GTF.
That's not an ice cream van son, that's a Fire Engine. Oh and stop drooling over your keyboard.


GGTTH

16

Faws Edinburgh,

12/05/2008 13:14:35
Very inept performance by a very lightweight Hibs team.

Morias, Shields, Rankin, Campbell and FLETCHER are all below the standard required for any Hibs team to compete around 3rd place. The pressure is always on the back four due to a lightweight and below average group of players mentioned above. None of them should be in Mixu's plans for next season - including Fletcher who is too easily disposssed and happy to fall on his backside. NO Presence among any of these players makes Hibs an easy thre points away from Easter Road. Scynical but True, pleases act now Mixu Please!!
17

The Hallucinist,

12/05/2008 13:21:29
You'll all be wearing your gold & claret scarves for europe next season??
18

Dood,

12/05/2008 13:23:33
Oh aye, and while I'm on my rant.....

Since the Motherwell game is now effectively meaningless, get the laddies in. Those who've booked holidays can GTF, the Collins signings can GTF. Start re-building the squad now.

I'd be looking for Lynch, McCormack, Kurtis, McCaffrey, Hanlon etc to feature. I just don't see the point in flogging a dead horse now when it comes to the likes of Morais, Kerr, Donaldson.....
19

Dood,

12/05/2008 13:24:41
#18 - No. I'll be wearing my green and white one when we qualify from the Intertattie into the Uefa Cup.

What colour of scarf will you be wearing to watch your team in Europe next season?
20

The Hallucinist,

12/05/2008 13:28:51
#21 The futures bright for the Maroon and White!!
21

Dood,

12/05/2008 13:30:00
Ehm, how?
22

The Hallucinist,

12/05/2008 13:31:35
#17 hibs will always struggle to attract the calibre of player required for success in the SPL.

hibs will have to rely on the youth coming through!!
23

Dood,

12/05/2008 13:37:25
#17 - I agree that Hibs can be lightweight. However, to suggest that Fletcher is below the standard we require is simply laughable. He's been outstanding this season and will continue to improve to the extent that he'll be offski for BIG money.

Yes, Morais is totally gash and I can't see what the attraction is with him. Shiels however, has been pretty decent since Mixu came in, Campbell is only a laddie and Rankin's not been that bad.

24

The Hallucinist,

12/05/2008 13:39:48
#22 How not??
25

Dood,

12/05/2008 13:40:45
THE HALLUCINIST

Were you one of the protesters at Tynecastle on Saturday (dressed as an empty seat perhaps)?

My mate, a Jambo, informed me that the protest took the form of numerous Yams throwing their Season Tickets onto the park in disgust as a form of protest.......

Now, stop me if I'm wrong, but was that not the last HOME game of the season? Hmmmmmm, throwing season tickets onto park, season ticket expired anyway........ Equals.....

EEJITS!!!

Aye, that'll show Vlad. You'd better be careful and not upset him or there'll be no CL Football, zillion pound stadium developments.......
26

Dood,

12/05/2008 13:41:28
#25 - How? I asked first!
27

The Hallucinist,

12/05/2008 13:50:21
#27 We're in excellent position for the start of next season.

This is just a period of transition for the mighty Hearts!!
28

Dood,

12/05/2008 13:56:17
#28 - I admire your style of humour.
29

Smasher,

12/05/2008 14:03:19
The ref could'nt wait to get the red card out for Hibs players but managed to ignore Hartleys second bookable offence. They only see what they want to see. They have turned Scottish football into a farce. Craig Levein has done and said a lot of silly things but the whole of Scottish football outside the bigot brothers should back him up and refuse to play either of them. Scottish football without that pair would be much better and a lot more honest.
30

Another Albert,

here 12/05/2008 14:05:28
I suppose that's the Fair Play League bu&&ered for us now too?

Re Motherwell - good luck to them You are where you are, and they're third. Not sure about the InterTattie - too early a start and a good chance of getting caught cold - as previous experiences show.

Here's to next season but surely Mixu needs more than a few good sighings.
31

The Hallucinist,

12/05/2008 14:21:38
Motherwell - well done!!
32

mrhibs07,

Trucking About in air con comfort 12/05/2008 14:51:31
#32
you really should lay off those magic mushrooms, away and chuck your season ticket. Ha ha.
GGTTH
33

Neutral Observer,

12/05/2008 15:23:32
#12 iranianian

The guy has no arms?? So we should ignore him then if he is completely 'armless!
34

bring them on,

12/05/2008 15:41:42
Is Idee there?

I need a Spanish speaker.

Just tell here I am a good guy


35

Rolland,

12/05/2008 16:00:07
Well done the Mothers, its a flash in the pan but every dog gets it days, unless its a hobo dog that is.

So the Hobo's, the cabbage, so much for your good season, you've got what to show for it ? A place with the footballing Elite of Europe in the Intertattie cup, where I have no doubts you will make complete fools of yourselfs and be emptied by a bunch of fish packers.

Hibs have a good season and end up winning hew haw as per usual.

Hold on a minute, your nearly debt free..... way to go guys.
36

bring them on,

12/05/2008 16:08:46
Where is Idee

I need his Spanish speaking skills

Anyone know?

37

Rolland,

12/05/2008 16:20:45
UEFA cup your having a laff, UEFA cup your having a laff.

Cheered me up no end to know you vermin aint going anywhere other than porty sands as per usual.

Hobo's when failure is required you guys come up trumps everytime.
38

vladamir romanov,

12/05/2008 16:27:47
Rolland perhaps a concerted period of time on porty beach jogging would help you trim down to a 46 waist!

or wrap yourself in clingfilm put on your toweling tracksuit and get in the sauna for an hour or two?
39

Neutral Observer,

12/05/2008 16:30:59
#36 & 38 Rolland

Another guy who is 'armless but in this case its because they have now taken him away and put him back in his straight jacket.
40

Rolland,

12/05/2008 16:40:24
#39 Might be a plan for big Pantyliner then.

Still can't believe how gash you lot are after all nonsense you lot have spouted about flair, playing football etc, yer gash, you've won hee haw and will get pumped in the inter diddy cup like you always do.

Keep it up though God loves a trier.
41

mrhibs07,

Trucking About In Air Con Comfort! 12/05/2008 17:03:11
#41
And what exactly have your beloved scumbo's done this season? You were one of the posters, in early december, saying you would be above us by christmas? And you won't be above up this christmas this year either.
GGTTH
42

Mike D W,

12/05/2008 17:29:42
Leagues don't lie.

Motherwell deserve 3rd. Mark McGhee has done a very good job with limited resources. Mind you, all managers outside the big 3 clubs (Celtic, Rangers & Hearts) in Scotland are working on limited resources.

I see some Hearts fans on this thread are claiming:-

1. Hibs claim to have had a good season, but have won hee-haw.

2. Hearts have just had a transitional season and that's why they have won hee-haw.

Trouble is, Hibs have not had a good season. Since last season we have had to re-build our midfield, most of our defence and replace our walkaway manager. Reckon we could claim a transitional season. Still came 4th. Not bad. Oh that we could be as successful as the big Edinburgh team with the huge resources.

How has Hearts season been transitional. Just because you have been rubbish all year and you beLIEve next year will be better, does not make it transitional. Where are you transitioning to? Division One?
43

manxhibby,

12/05/2008 17:48:08
Congratulations to Motherwell - our gash mid season cost us (as usual) but thankfully Mixu got it back on track - just not in time.

Am I being cynical or could Murray have just fancied not bothering paying for his holiday to be changed and thats why he kicked young Mr McGeady in the air - kill 2 birds with one stone.

I agree with Dood at #19 that he should get some youngsters out against motherwell - they beat the big teams wee team after all.

Good luck to Rangers too - the better they do the more teams we get in Europe I guess.
44

Neutral Observer,

12/05/2008 18:25:13
#19 Dood -#44 Manxhibby

Would be a good idea to give youngsters experience - Collins did that last season in the top 6 last 5 games but that contributed to the lack of results in that period. However, I don't think that they will do that. They are still striving to finish 4th above Dundee Utd and I read a quote from Craig Levin at the weekend that a higher place in the league is worth £125,000. That's too much money to throw away in the name of giving young players experience. Maybe put a couple of them on the bench though and let O'Brien and Kerr go off on holiday this week.
45

Neutral Observer,

12/05/2008 18:37:29
A passing thought! Whatever happened to Chris Killen? You know the man, New Zealand mercenary who rebuilt his career at Hibs til his dodgy tendon game way. Then used the Hibs medical facilities to get a 'lucrative' contract at Celtic. Is he still there, maybe working as kit man or something? Doesn't seem to play for the reserves.
46

Franck,

12/05/2008 18:46:31
#46

last seen driving the team coach.
47

Dood,

12/05/2008 18:49:12
Neutral observer.

I appreciate what you're saying about 4th place. However, of the laddies I named, I'd have no qualms about playing some of them:

Hanlon must be preferred to Zarabi.
Lynch could out-muscle Chisolm.
McCormack oozes class (when I've seen him anyway)
Kurtis is high on confidence - take the risk of him in front of Campbell.

On top of that, get McCann back in at right back - if Snoop Dog plays again for Hibs I'll have a hairy fit. I'd get shot of Morais right now (permanently) and put Stevenson back in - one winger in Shiels is enough.

Hey ho though, just my thoughts.........

PS - Chris Killen's warming the same bench as Riordan. Pair of to55ers. Would still take them back though.
48

mrhibs07,

Trucking About in air con comfort 12/05/2008 19:31:28
#48
Evening dood.
I agree with you there, i would have riordan and killin back. It's going to be very interesting who, will be joining us in the summer.
GGTTH
49

Jambo-ree,

12/05/2008 20:17:40
#43 Mike - just for the record, you're not fourth yet. You could equally well end up 6th (just like last season) and for our problems this season we could be just one place behind you. Not having a won a game in the top 6 (and hardly scored) don't think you should be taking anything for granted.

Never mind, enjoy polishing your points.
50

mrhibs07,

Trucking About in air con comfort 12/05/2008 20:32:29
#50
Is that wishfull thinking on your behalf? Even if we do finish sixth, we will still be above you!
GGTTH
51

Dood,

12/05/2008 20:44:10
Mr Hibs, evening to you too. I suspect we need three or four new faces. All depends on who leaves (Boozy, Jones to name two). However - unlike the Yams, I reckon we'll get it right.

Happy trucking mate.

PS - #50 - Just for the record - you're not seventh yet...... How embarrassing for such a BIG team. Still, console yourself with the massive home wins against ICT and St Mirren. Such BIG teams.....

52

Sir Albertt x2,

12/05/2008 21:14:22
And they get punted by big teams Falkirk and Kilmarnock. Oh how the s####y have fallen, still p#####g myself.
53

Badboy,

12/05/2008 21:53:49
Been told HIBS have signed 16 y/o keeper,
england schoolboy caps,

future is green
future is bright.

 

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