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Wendy vows to stay after calls to step down



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Published Date:
04 December 2007
SCOTTISH Labour leader Wendy Alexander today vowed to stay in her post and fight to clear her name over the illegal donation to her leadership campaign.
Her defiant pledge came as Channel Islands businessman Paul Green, whose donation of £950 is at the centre of the row, accused her team of “gross mismanagement”.

Breaking a four-day silence, Ms Alexander insisted she did not set out “intentionally
” to break the rules, but conceded: “Mistakes have been made.”

As she arrived for a meeting of Labour MSPs at the Scottish Parliament, she went on: “I have always believed politicians should have the highest standards of integrity. It would be easy to quit but also wrong.

“To give up this job in these circumstances would be also giving up my reputation for integrity and honesty and I’m not prepared to do that.”

Meanwhile speculation intensified about whether a member of her campaign team, Charlie Gordon, who has already quit as shadow transport minister, now plans to quit as an MSP.

Shortly before Ms Alexander arrived, he told reporters: “I will make an announcement about my political future later in the week.”

Ms Alexander was speaking in a statement to reporters at the entrance to the Scottish Parliament.

She began by declaring: “I have never sought to mislead.
“I am not dishonest in any way.

“My campaign did not set out to mislead anybody or break the rules.”
She said the last days had been “hard” for her, her family and for Labour.
“But I intend to fully clear my name.” she said.

She said her first duty was to keep The Electoral Commission fully informed.
But she went on: “For the record, there is repeated correspondence initiated by me personally, dealing with the issue of permissibility, and demonstrating my interest in ensuring that donations received were indeed permissible.

Arriving for the regular group meeting, Edinburgh North & Leith MSP Malcolm Chisholm denied Ms Alexander was a lame-duck leader.

“Absolutely not,” he said. “She is a very good leader and I will give her my strongest support.

“She did nothing intentionally wrong and I have every confidence in Wendy Alexander.”

Mr Green, whose donation was illegal because he is not a registered UK voter, today spoke out to defend his role in the affair.

He insisted he had regarded his donation as “above board” after assurances from Mr Gordon.

The campaign team has claimed they wrongly believed Mr Green’s donation was being channelled through a UK company, which would have made it permissible.

But Mr Green said his donation was written on a personal cheque from his Jersey address.

He said he was “angry” at being dragged into the row and denied he had been trying to buy influence.

Mr Green said: “How the Labour Party managed to get themselves in this mess, I find difficult to understand.

“I think what you have to say is that this has to be gross mismanagement.

“Just looking at it from afar, who in their right mind is going to try and hide £950? I could possibly understand if it was £9500, or £95,000, or £950,000. But you just can’t believe £950”.

He went on: “I find this very sad because I have known Charlie Gordon for a number of years and I have found him to be a very honourable and decent man.

“Charlie must have been misled or didn’t do his homework.

“From my perspective, although it’s rather unfortunate I really can’t see there was any criminal intent at all.”



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  • Last Updated: 04 December 2007 2:27 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Scottish Labour Party
 
1

Colin John Macrae,

west lothian 04/12/2007 14:00:20

100% backing by labour, corruption goes right to the heat of the labour party

2

Boy Wonder,

04/12/2007 14:02:38

In the name o the wee ... don't do it, Malcolm!! Let her swing and save your own skin!

3

Chris.J,

04/12/2007 14:05:41

It's another irregular verb: I made an adminstrative error; You acted within the spirit of the law; He accepted an illegal donation contrary to the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act 2000


.....Apologies to Bernard Woolley for nicking that one :)

4

iain morrison,

nairn 04/12/2007 14:10:41

So thats why, they are so often refered to as the West of Scotland Labour mafia - they support criminals. Worth a read of the relevant act - by my reading and info in public domain six of them could switch from nu labour to hard labour.

5

Paula,

04/12/2007 14:15:11

"Yes Windy, we're behind you."

<MSPs take *big* step back leaving her standing alone>

Well Wendy, with your super brain, not so clever now.

6

World View,

04/12/2007 14:16:52

This completes the implosion of the Labour Party in Scotland.

If they had forced Alexander to resign, they might have recovered a little bit of dignity and even, God forbid, a bit of trust.

As it is, they are all tainting themselves with the same brush. They are collectively condoning criminal behaviour. Not much more to say than that.

Still, it's good that the Scottish people have received confirmation of just how corrupt Scottish Labour are, as they always have been.

7

ochone, ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 04/12/2007 14:18:38

Where's Lord George?

8

Alasdair,

04/12/2007 14:23:01

Of course they pledge support for the slack-jawed one.
Their masters in London have told them to.

9

Queen D,

Glasgow 04/12/2007 14:27:20

Just watched the announcement on TV.
Absolutely unanimous in their backing of Wee Wendy!
Ah well!
Will the police be involved?
Should'nt the police be involved?
Why has there been so much time allowed for stories to be agreed? Not that I'm suggesting that anyone would!
Heaven forfend!

10

yockel,

OUt and About 04/12/2007 14:29:25

S56. Acceptance or return of donations: general

(1) Where—

(a) a donation is received by a registered party, and

(b) it is not immediately decided that the party should (for whatever reason) refuse the donation,

all reasonable steps must be taken forthwith by or on behalf of the party to verify (or, so far as any of the following is not apparent, ascertain) the identity of the donor, whether he is a permissible donor, and (if that appears to be the case) all such details in respect of him as are required by virtue of paragraph 2 of Schedule 6 to be given in respect of the donor of a recordable donation.

How exactly can you "Unintentionally" not comply with that?

11

steve 1511,

04/12/2007 14:33:06

she broke the law,she failed to check donations over £200,she is a criminal she accepted the money,wendy woo they polis are coming for you,no amount of spin and lies can change the facts , labour believe they have a right to flaunt the law of the land with their lies and treat the voters with contempt,

12

bill2,

04/12/2007 14:36:29

Another standard issue New Labour crook, but nothing compared to the lying murdering Blair who set the trend.

A truly loathsome bunch of criminals.

13

Mirrorman,

Vermont...(moonlight on) 04/12/2007 14:36:54

'The people's flag is deepest red'...a colour also often associated with shame, embarassment and financial ineptitude.

Someone should tell Gordo, Harman, Alexander, Hain et al before the boys in blue knock at the door that resurrecting the Henry McLeish defence..'Ah dunno, it wisnae me,' wasn't very effective first time round.

14

Sarah B,

Edinburgh 04/12/2007 14:38:54

World View (6) - I completely agree.

I have no particular loyalty to any one party but am appalled by what is happening here and how it effects the reputation of Scottish politicians in general and, thereby, the country.

I find myself ashamed that such a large number of our elected representatives consider that they should be above the law and are prepared to carry on without dignity, integrity or honour.

That is not a party-political statement - just the view of an ordinary person who is deeply embarrassed by the actions of those who should hold the highest principles. The previously low level of trust in our elected representatives will now be at absolute zero.

This will allow the SNP, the other opposition parties and, indeed, the general public to ridicule the main opposition party at every opportunity and on every issue and that cannot be good for democracy.

15

GrahamH,

04/12/2007 14:40:19

Let's all go out and do a criminal act today. Seems it is OK as long as you say "mistakes have been made".

16

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

Newington 04/12/2007 14:42:45

I recall when Tony Blair, as leader of the Opposition, berated Prime Minister John Major over the David Mellor scandal. Blair told Parliament that under any future government of his, resignations would come with any hint of sleaze, and not after investigation.

Of course not five minutes after being elected, Blair was neck-deep in the Ecclestone donations scandal and no resignation. Just about every resignation in his government that did occur was so dragged-out that fingernails and teeth were left in the Downing Street lino.

More of the same in Scotland it seems. Meanwhile, Alexander has called the police to find the one person in Scottish Labour willing to get the truth out : the leaker.

17

Tazza,

Edinburgh 04/12/2007 14:43:08

Cast your mind back to the era of the wicked witch from the south by the name of maggie thatcher. She changed the way in which political parties could raise funds for their campaigns. No longer was the money to come from the public purse but from private donations. The bill went through and the spell was cast.

The tory, labour and liberal parties went around this fair land, cap in hand looking for the magic beans that would secure their future campaigns. Company directors, members for the society of secret handshakes, and even elfs and goblins from as far off as America and Saudi Arabia offered assistance during this time of darkness.

But alas, despite the raging battles between the parties, there was never enough to run those jolly expensive media campaigns, leaflet drops or to pay the dedicated cold-callers who crawled out of their burrows deep in the shires, hidden from the maddening crowd in those big ugly towns and dire housing estates.

Currency was in short supply, the faithful were screaming 'please, sir can I have some more'. So, they turned to the dark side.

Marketing and advertising consultants were brought in to help the campaigners. Thatcher had her wish, politics in this country was re-branded, and the contract between the hard-working electorate and the government was re-written. Policies became the stuff of nonsense, and personalities mattered more. Blair 'he with the white teeth', Brown 'the wizard that cooked the books' and Campbell 'the transport problem solver' won the hearts of the nation with their handsome hairstyles, polished shoes and cool grey suits. Thatcher fell into a deep sleep, little realizing that she had uncannily opened the gates to money laundering (those grey suits have deep pockets, remember), dodgy peerships and a run on mercedes cars apparently. And so the rot that befell middle england, wales and scotland continued. Until, someone got found out. That little twinkly light on the magic wand called

18

Mirrorman,

Vermont...(moonlight on) 04/12/2007 14:44:24

#14

You forgot the punch line...' and lessons will be learned,' i.e. we won't get bloo*y well caught next time.

19

World View,

04/12/2007 15:00:04

Hmmmm, this story appears to have metamorphosised into something else.

Before, it was all about how Alexander had received the stout backing of her party members.

What happened?

20

Voice of reason,

04/12/2007 15:05:11

Who will point the finger at Blair - only a matter of time . What a wonderful day it will be when that lying , embezzling , cheating criminal is behind bars.

21

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Ontario 04/12/2007 15:08:43

Pride goes before a fall and a haughty nature before destruction.

22

Concerned of Stockbridge,

04/12/2007 15:14:03

The question still is - why on earth did she need money for such a parochial slag-fest (sorry - "campaign").

Where are the receipts for all the lapel badges, balloons, bunting and straw hats - eh?

23

NorT,

Edinburgh 04/12/2007 15:19:07

She committed an absolute offence so she is automatically guilty and should resign.

24

Ronjock,

Edinburgh 04/12/2007 15:25:05

Wendy says she didn't know it was illegal to take donations from people not on the UK electoral roll . Why not, if she is telling the truth , a politician standing for party leader,and ignorant of this law.and being allowed to make laws ...incompitence springs to mind, or just negligent and not fit to be a MSP or indeed a polician One law for MSPs and other law for voters , but ignorance of the law is not held as an excuse , as many a person has found out.
I thought Brown was a better politician , more honest & reliable ,against my better judgement , but the way he has backed up ,Harriet Harmon & wee Wendy shows you cant trust any politican , National or local . Any decent person would do the right thing and resign, but what do you expect from sleazy, money grabbing New labour. Keir Hardy must be turning in his grave !!!!

25

kimba,

04/12/2007 15:41:13

My god,listen to you all, let those without sin cast the first stone, that won't leave many then!

26

Ronjock,

Edinburgh 04/12/2007 15:51:33

I wouldn't be party to bribery, corruption ,ignorance of the law , because I am honest and dont break the laws.

Too many people turn a blind eye to these things ,and we end up with politicians , and others , who haven't the decency to resign ,when they get caught out. Wee Wendy broke tha law ,so she should be charged , just like any citizen. and as someone who has been given the right to make laws , she should be setting an example ,NOT flouting the law.

27

Apple,

04/12/2007 15:55:13

#24 Kimba
This issue isn't about people saying they've never done anything wrong. It's about politicians being held accountable when they break the law, in the same way, for example, that drivers are reprimanded for driving offences or shoplifters are prosecuted for theft. Or do we let them off the hook as well. Each time a politician believes they are above the law we suffer a kick in the b**ls to democracy.

More and more my blood boils when I see the amount of corruption in politics. When are these people going to start being held accountable for their actions? The rest of would surely be sacked if we committed an offence that affected our abilities to do our jobs. Let's not make it one rule for the elected minority and another for those who put them in their priviliged position in the first place.

28

Concerned of Stockbridge,

04/12/2007 16:06:13

#26 these days, drivers are not "reprimanded" when they break the law (unless they fall foul of a traffic patrol that can exercise discretion as opposed to a scamera) - they receive a fine, a criminal record and points on their licence.

Let's hope that Wendy "oo-er it disnae coont - it wisnae really a crime, jist a strict liability offence" suffers the same fate.

NB are you allowed to continue as an MSP with a criminal record? Hopefully not....

29

Boaby Dazzler,

04/12/2007 16:07:52

YOuTube now has Jackie Baillie's appearance on Newsnight Scotland defending Wendy Alexander.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNsta_z6Q_w

30

I'm no really here,

04/12/2007 16:10:46

“For the record, there is repeated correspondence initiated by me personally, dealing with the issue of permissibility, and demonstrating my interest in ensuring that donations received were indeed permissible."

Perhaps so, but say so and doing so are different things. Thought she would have learned that from HP Sauce. Maybe she did - only too well.

The Whistle-blower has committed the cardinal sin of not telling lies to further the party cause.

31

I'm no really here,

04/12/2007 16:26:39

Quote from her on the BBC Scotland website: "She said she now wanted to get on with the job of leading Labour at Holyrood and holding the SNP government to account."

That's rich coming from someone who refuses to be held accountable.

32

BuddieDumfries,

Dumfries 04/12/2007 16:30:43

Since when did ignorance become a defence? she has comitted a crime and therefire is unfit to lead Lairour or be a MSP.

33

fresian,

04/12/2007 16:33:16

Surely ignorance is no excuse. If she broke the law she should face the consequences

34

Norman R,

Aberdeen 04/12/2007 16:40:42

"Intentionally"! Will this now become a new defence plea in Scotland if this woman gets away with this? She did not only break the rules but she broke the law and not knowing the law or not having intent is definitely no excuse, especially in her position.

35

Hector Goodrich (Dr),

Colorectal Endoscopy 04/12/2007 16:52:10

>34 Norman
knowing the law or not having intent is definitely no excuse, especially in her position.

It is now the 'default' position of an increasing number of elected officials that they do not breach the law of the land. Instead, they make 'mistakes'. As Mz Alexander claims to have done.

36

The Master,

04/12/2007 16:59:51

There is a legal expression: “ignorantia iuris neminem excusat”. However, one can’t help but emphasise with Wendy and her team, whose only real crime was not to know the various rules and regulations inside out. No doubt everyone in politics will from now on ensure that they obtain a thorough grounding in the rules but, as is the way of such scandals, it’s too late to close the stable door after the horse has bolted.

What’s amusing is the synthetic rage of all the SNP cyber fanatics, which is quite frankly pathetic. Reading the various posts over the last few days, their vitriol knows no bounds and they are increasingly sounding like the Tories down south in their condemnation of everything to do with Labour. It’s all a storm in a teacup of course (apologies for all the cliches in this post), but I really think that Wendy’s finished. It’s not entirely clear why (as is often the way with politics), but that’s just the way it is. Like most ordinary voters, all this fuss about very little has given me yet another reason to hate politics in general.

37

The Master,

04/12/2007 17:11:19

Further to my post at #36, I’d even go so far as to say that it’s the SNP that are anti Scottish. Labour have dominated Scottish politics for the best part of 50 years, yet they choose to denigrate the choice of the people of Scotland at every opportunity. Doesn’t it occur to them that Labour are an integral part of Scotland’s psyche and history and perhaps they should tread carefully when running the party down. It’s a bit like Labour’s mistake in running down Scotland in the crossfire of their vitriolic attack on the SNP’s independence agenda.

38

blueguru,

US 04/12/2007 17:13:43

Looks like they have elected to hang together, rather than to hang separately!

39

Haleakelaman,

Auld Grey City 04/12/2007 17:21:38

#37
Well the tories are a better party these days.
So what if someone wants to call the SNP scottish tory party that's up to them.
But what I find really galling is the mentality of people that persist in voting for a labour party that just doesn't cut the mustard.
Tell me how do you want the SNP posters on here to post?
You sound suspiciously like a man who's down- watch you don't get kicked.

40

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04/12/2007 17:23:48
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41

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

Newington 04/12/2007 17:26:58

The Master offers:

"There is a legal expression: “ignorantia iuris neminem excusat”. However, one can’t help but emphasise with Wendy and her team, whose only real crime was not to know the various rules and regulations inside out. No doubt everyone in politics will from now on ensure that they obtain a thorough grounding in the rules but, as is the way of such scandals, it’s too late to close the stable door after the horse has bolted."

During all the investigations into Lordships For Cash, anyone with half a brain cell would have examined their political donations and ensured that they were scrupulously clean.

If they didn't, they're too incompetent to stay in business. If they did, and thought they'd be able to hide it, they're too crooked.

We've known since Ecclestone that Labour are the party of sleaze. It's just that under Blair, they were competent enough to mount a proper coverup.

Wendy may stay, but it will be a stay of execution. In the end, we the voters will be able to bring out the noose. The real question is whether she wants to go now or have the rest of the Party on the gallows with her when we pull the lever.

42

World View,

04/12/2007 17:36:09

#36

Master! - "What’s amusing is the synthetic rage of all the SNP cyber fanatics, which is quite frankly pathetic. "

My rage is hundred % natural fibre of my being!

And so is my satisfaction at seeing Labour exposed for the rotten sack of tatties that they are.

Their grip on Scotland has been nothing to do with their place in the Scottish psyche. It's about how they've exploited the social conscience of Scotland to make it seem like they've been the sole exponents of our traditions which, in fact, they have always abused (as this particular case is proving before our very eyes).

They have sold Scotland down the river of sleaze into the cesspit of the union.

They will be remembered for playing their part in the modern Dark Ages of Scottish history where Scotland was diminished almost to the point of non-existence, but from which it now emerges with sparklers in its hands!

43

Haleakelaman,

Auld Grey City 04/12/2007 17:39:15

Another thing "the master" fails to mention is the honours list. How many labour party contributors end up on that? The tories did this years ago and now labour is also finding it biting them back. Though quite why anyone wants an honour these days is beyond me. Is it just another status symbol?

44

Rodster,

Glasgow 04/12/2007 17:42:30

If there are no prosecutions over this then as a society we are finished.
Irrespective of anyone's political views the main tenet here is law, ignorance of the law is no excuse for any criminal or in any civil action.
Yet if as seems likely the rules are bent for a Labour politician ,who by her own admission has broken the law then that is a recipe for anarchy.
the good old Glasgow phrase applies to Wendy and her Labour cohorts
What a brass neck indeed!

45

The Master,

04/12/2007 17:48:20

#40 Ayrshire: has Chisolm done something wrong that we don’t know about, or are you none too fussy about who you gun down, now that you’ve got the bit between your teeth? If this is your idea of corruption then you should get out more and venture a wee bit further afield on holiday or pay more attention to the Scotsman’s international pages, old crocus, or are you too completely engrained in your usual parochial nationalist mindset?

#41 Friend of Fernando Poo: if Wendy does survive, I think you’ll find that the voters aren’t quite as indignant about all this as you hope. Perhaps if it had been a donation of several millions and she’d “done a Galloway with it” then you might have been in luck and lived to see the SNP’s much desired Scottish Labour meltdown.

#42 World View: and the SNP with their council tax freeze are the true social conscience of Scotland, are they? Never mind: the bigger your house, the more you benefit!

46

Rodster,

Glasgow 04/12/2007 17:55:31

46
Ah master !!!I see now it is because it was only £950 ,twice that makes it alright .
Got it now thanks for that.
Like you I blame the SNP myself all their fault another broken promise ,praise the lord we have Wendy and Jackie and all those huge intellects ,just like you really so smart ,and the rest of us so stupid .
There was me thinking the law was about the actual law not the amount you steal or misdirect silly me!!!

47

World View,

04/12/2007 18:02:44

#46

"Never mind: the bigger your house, the more you benefit!"

It is not for a master illusioinist like you to be fooled so easily by such illusions!

48

Toast,

04/12/2007 18:03:28

What a pack of lies.Alexander offered her resignation on Friday and Gordon Brown refused to accept it,time to start prosecuting and sacking any MP or MSP who for whatever reason breaks the rules.

49

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04/12/2007 18:09:21
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50

Rodster,

Glasgow 04/12/2007 18:14:58

52 English Voice what was the message from English H.O. or Westminster?
lie ,deny , cheat , ridicule ,demean deceive , just a normal day at the office for you then huh?

51

The Master,

04/12/2007 18:15:38

#47 Rodster: I agree that the amount is irrelevant legally, but try telling that to your ordinary voter out there. Rules broken? Looks like it. Storm in a teacup? Definitely.

52

An English voice... ,

04/12/2007 18:17:29

I wonder if the SNP would be so quick to gloat if it was a donation from one of the terrorist friendly radical Islamist organisations they are so fond of courting?

53

An English voice... ,

04/12/2007 18:18:12

Meant, 2017, if they can gather enough Islamist votes that is....

54

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04/12/2007 18:20:23
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55

 Ayrshire Scot™,

04/12/2007 18:23:14

46 Master old bean, 40, 51 and 56 are not me, but a fakey (note the ' before the name) - just a pity Wendy can't use that as an exuse. Maybe she will.

56

Rodster,

Glasgow 04/12/2007 18:27:07

54 Master
The amount that the Tory MP Hamilton took from al Fayhed was hardly millions it was the perception on the public that mattered , and they looked upon John Major's government as rotten to the core.
This lot are a 100 times worse and the public know it , not just the politically enlightened that come to these boards.
However Master if you want to believe this is all a storm in a teacup and will go away then enjoy .
I personally believe that we are witnessing the very unedifying last days of a once great political party that has been hijacked by carpetbaggers and vagabonds

57

kimba,

04/12/2007 18:34:57

The master. Shame, you would of made a excellent politician,well at least a truthful one!

58

'Ayrshire Scot™,

04/12/2007 18:35:29

#61 EV: calm down, dear! It’s only a left of centre social democratic party devoted to securing Scotland’s rightful place in the community of world nations, you know!

59

Warden An' All, Reborn,

04/12/2007 18:37:36

62/Rodster - The labour government, and party, have fallen foul of a change that didn't exist before they brought it in, so this can hardly be classed in the same way as the old cash in the envelope, that the old Tory party got so tarred with. This is not to say the labour party are totally clean on this issue, it is clear there are individuals who will bend the rules to get money, and they should be jailed, but this issue is on going, and maybe all donations in the future should be accounted for.

60

World View,

04/12/2007 18:38:40

Hello Enlgish Voice.

What do you think about the demise of Labour and the now inevitable surge of support for the SNP and the quickening pace of Scotland's recovery as a fully independent nation?

You must be absolutely stumped and gutted and sick as a dog.

Is this why you've abandoned your powder-puff, half-witted psuedo-economic arguements in favour of unadulterated insult?

I thought the unionist posters were meant to be the polite ones who were capable of civilised debates while rabid nationalists ripped at their throats and snapped at their heels.

Was that another one of your unionist lies?

61

Rodster,

Glasgow 04/12/2007 18:39:56

63 Kimba
honest and politician ? is that not a contradiction in terms?

62

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04/12/2007 18:43:37
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63

kimba,

04/12/2007 18:48:13

RODSTER. It is with this labour government!

64

Rodster,

Glasgow 04/12/2007 18:48:21

Warden , with the greatest of respect ,no matter how you dress this up there has been wrong doing and not just once, but throughout the UK by the Labour party. Not just at head office but also in their branch office in Glasgow.
The law has been broken and the guilty should be hounded out of public office .
They are showing the same utter contempt of the previous Tory Party this New Tory /Nu lab Party are worse multiplyed by 100

65

World View,

04/12/2007 19:11:34

Quack! Quack!

66

Rodster,

Glasgow 04/12/2007 19:16:17

EV no response because it is utter pap .
You are really a sad person but hey ho takes all sorts to make up the world

67

 Ayrshire Scot™,

04/12/2007 19:26:30

73 EV?

I think you'll find the SNP government has just called in the Trump plans.

Anyway, don't think it was a prty political vote by councillors.

Nyway, this thread is about unionist sleaze, corruption and lies. The Trump thread is on the main page.

Any thoughts on the never ending littany of unionist party corruption and illegality?

68

First Minister,

Hanoveria 04/12/2007 19:44:58

EV
you are some dude, i too am English living in Scotland for a long time, i am ashamed to be called British, I strongly consider myself to be Scottish Not British, Britain is the 2nd most hated country in the world, the sooner we gain the right to self-determination the better for Scotland, England would be thrown out of the EU for having too large a debt and would also go bankrupt as Gordon Brown has secured his 500+ Billion Debt against Scotlands oil.

69

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04/12/2007 19:48:03
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A1,

Lanarkshire 04/12/2007 21:32:33

Can anyone name a politician who tells the truth?

71

steve077,

04/12/2007 22:05:08

She is worried about losing her reputation for integrity and honesty.
Isn't it is a bit late for that.

72

Rodrigo,

Ashfield 04/12/2007 22:05:48

I am looking at this, I cannot see any difference between these views and those of English Tories. Have you signed a secret Pact with the Cameroons that has not been declared and is therefore illegal so you should all resign and have an election to bankrupt the Banana Republic too cold to grow bananas, and not fit to join the Brtiish
Commonwealth coz you are not British. No, you will not like the truth. Why should Politicans?

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Scootter,

England 04/12/2007 22:12:02

A1 says "Can anyone name a politician who tells the truth?"
I think this won't be posted but the answer surely is "A Dead One"

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 Ayrshire Scot™,

04/12/2007 22:18:33

86 I cannot see any difference between this Labour sleaze and the sleaze of English Tories. Alexander, Harmen, Hain, Ecclestone, Mittal, Hindujas, Aitken, Hamilton, Archer - new Labour/ Old Tory - same unionist sleaze, lies, illegality and corruption.

75

Banana Heid,

Ayrshire 04/12/2007 23:00:16

Bendy Wendy The Lame duck
Is quickly running out of luck

76

ochone, ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 04/12/2007 23:02:48

Rodrigo 86, British Commonwealth? Oh you mean the Commonwealth of Nations, time to bye a new history book pal.

77

ochone, ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 04/12/2007 23:05:28

You know if Labour try to spin this any more, they'll be wanting somebody to thank Wendy next.

I mean she is being so noble staying at her post rather than do the easy thing and walk away, aye right!

Where has Wendys latest spin doctor got to?

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 Ayrshire Scot™,

04/12/2007 23:20:52

92 I know. Poor Wendy, the victim.

79

fresian,

04/12/2007 23:47:44

no 90 add:

while all the others rake the muck, the ugly b****h should run like F***

80

IainGlasgow,

04/12/2007 23:53:30

#72

"Salmond also knows that the oil is running out although clearly that report hasn't made it to the members that flock to these boards claiming there are 40 years and trillions of pounds worth still to pump ashore."

That there is 40 years left if North Sea oil has been demonstrated by scientists working in the oil industry who are working to develop technologies to increase yield and theif findings have been presented at various industry conferences. That is why major investment is still being made in the North Sea including things like carbon capture.

The oil has been "running out" for 25 years and the UK Government has consistently significantly downplayed the economic impact of North Sea oil, probably to keep the UK intact.

81

ochone, ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 05/12/2007 00:34:51

Iain95, well said, I remember back in the 1970's that unionists started saying that the oil would all be used up before the turn of the centuary.

That was either a lie or so wrong a forcast that there is no credence left in any of their claims,
especially as they buried the McCrone report on the very subject.

Of course he didn't agree with that projection either and he was the governments man.

Seems somethings never change where unionist party's and the truth is concerned, especially if it's to do with money

82

Bob10,

05/12/2007 03:28:07

(13) Sarah B.

Politicians are self serving rats. They will always, always set expediency (plus a little profit) above principle.

83

The Daleks,

05/12/2007 05:03:44

I think that great sage Henry McCliche should go back on Question Time to explain to us if this is technically a muddle or a fiddle.

84

the_figures_are _fudged,

Galashiels 05/12/2007 07:32:43

House of cards , about to come tumbling down.

85

john z,

05/12/2007 08:00:43

Dear Wendy Alexander,

You are not fit for purpose, and are the butt of jokes across the land. Resign.

86

Richard Lionheart,

05/12/2007 09:24:38

report crime

Crimestoppers 0800 555 111 or

https://secure.crimestoppers-uk.org/giving/anonymousconta...?

87

morris,

embra 05/12/2007 09:58:39

According to Wendy she can " prove" her innocence through the production of an e mail in which she queries the legality of the donation.

Why did she query the legality?
Clearly she realised it was from an illegal source (outside the UK)
What was the response? WE think Jersey is in the UK ?

Pathetic!

The legal requirement was that she establish the legitimacy of any donation which she accpeted.

She has NOT DONE SO>

This does NOT establish her innocence ,It does the opposite.IT CONFIRMS HER KNOWLEDGE AND GUILT

88

morris,

embra 05/12/2007 10:06:16

74

We ignore you through choice not neccessity Dont flatter yourself!

We have heard your UNionist ramblings before.You are so intelligent that it has not occurred to you that maybe the diet of statistics fed to you by your Daily Telegraph etc courtesy of HM Government might not actually be correct.It was in the paper It must be true.
I could comment here on your being a victim of your own education system,but that would be misconstrued as racist.
Everybody knows Englishmen are never wrong!
Now I shall ignore you again .

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Rickie,

Reality 05/12/2007 11:07:59

“My campaign did not set out to mislead anybody or break the rules.”

Sorry but that in itself is breaching the rules - you didn't have a campaign, it was a one horse (no pun intended) race, so none necessary.

Therefore it was misuse of funds.

Like a bigger shovel to save you time Wendypoos :)

90

connaughtboy,

05/12/2007 11:19:25

#102 Morris

Quite right. Wendy cannot hide behind the advice of others. She has the same access to the rule book as everyone else. Guilty as charged!


 

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