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Residents bark their protests as Grassmarket trees are axed



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Published Date: 29 August 2008
A BID to axe mature trees in the Grassmarket as part of a £6 million revamp has sparked protests.
The city council is set to remove five poplar trees from the central area and replace them with large oak and lime ones.

Experts have found that there is some decay in the trees and they could only last a few more years.

But local residents sa
id they were "horrified" by the plans, as they had been promised the trees would be kept. They said there was no good reason to remove them now, and they could live another ten or 20 years.

Several of the poplar trees were replaced in April by mature oak and lime trees from Germany. The next five will be removed in September.

Janet Dick, who lives and works in the Grassmarket, said: "This takes no account of the residents' wishes. There are no good reasons for any trees to be removed in the Grassmarket.

"Poplars are not considered the tree of choice by many arboricultural experts, but the people who live here like these trees and want to keep them. They give the Grassmarket character and should be left alone."

She said more than 40 people had attended a recent residents' meeting, with most calling for the trees to be saved. Another meeting for residents and traders to discuss the issue is planned for Wednesday.

Councillor Joanna Mowat, who represents the city centre and chairs the Grassmarket Forum, said she could understand people's concerns. She said: "There is a very vocal minority of people who do not want to see the trees replaced. It can be a very emotive issue, and people do get very attached to the trees.

"The problem is, no-one can say how much life the trees have in them. They could go tomorrow, or they could last another 20 years. The expert opinion is they probably don't have a long time left.

"It's a very hard decision. There are potential safety issues. There is money in the kitty at the moment to pay for the project, but there may not be in a few years' time."

Many traders in the Grassmarket are taking a pragmatic view.

Bill Cowan, who runs Costume HaHa, said he was pleased with the trees that had been planted in April and welcomed the move.

He said: "Most of us are quite happy about it. We realise it's better to replace the trees now. This way it will cost £6000 a piece, whereas it could cost £18,000 if we wait for ten years.

"The trees put in in April have already grown several feet now."

He said the new paving in the Grassmarket meant it was unsuitable for poplar trees, as they would not get enough water, and limes would be a better option.

A council spokeswoman said it would be removing four or five of the poplars in September. These will be replaced by mature trees, imported from Germany, as soon as possible afterwards.

She said: "Our biologists and independent tree surgeons have looked at the trees and found that, internally, they are in a state of decay. They're not going to last more than a few years and will need to be replaced anyway.

"The new ones will be mature trees, although they will not be exactly the same."





The full article contains 565 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 29 August 2008 10:38 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

alex paterson,

edinburgh 29/08/2008 12:12:08
Yes there are a lot of barkers in the Grassmarket,but new trees will look a lot better.
2

Arrow,

edinburgh 29/08/2008 12:19:47
"The trees put in in April have already grown several feet now." is there any danger that these will get up and jump in front of pedestrians or run abut the Grassmarket at night causing excess noise and rustling of leaves.
3

Sister Morag,

Birmingham 29/08/2008 12:22:46
To be perfectly honest I don't know why they're 'revamping' the Grassmarket anyway. From what I've seen of the site so far there's no marked improvement - in fact it looks worse than it did before it all kicked off.
4

JayDeeTee,

29/08/2008 12:38:55
#1. Yes....it seems the Poplars are popular..
5

capy,

embra 29/08/2008 12:43:58
Is this a root and branch exercise.
6

Howard Moon,

29/08/2008 12:54:44
It's enough to make you oak.
7

JayDeeTee,

29/08/2008 12:59:43
Wonder how the residents twigged?
8

valleyjim,

29/08/2008 13:10:11
Looks like a job for special branch.
9

Lord_S,

Edinburgh 29/08/2008 13:17:45
Great - Edinburgh is gonna be even more desolate and depressing. One thing that makes the south of England a far nicer place than Scotland is the greenery. They're not obsessed with chopping down all the trees down there.
10

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29/08/2008 13:22:49
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11

Lord_S,

Edinburgh 29/08/2008 13:32:09
No doubt the replacements will be rubbish. Typical of this desolate concrete cooncil scheme.
12

Boy Wonder,

29/08/2008 13:35:15
Looks like all the usual saps are punning again!
13

Statsman,

Edinburgh 29/08/2008 13:37:31
Isn't chopping down trees bad from an ecological point of view? Aren't they meant to absorb the CO2 'poison' as they'd have us believe?

How can the council act all 'green' one minute by wanting to charge parked cars with larger engines more, then say they are going to chop down trees?

Could it be they are simply using the green movement as an excuse to tax people? Yup, the watermelon Council: Green on the outside, red on the inside.

Communists.
14

Statsman,

Edinburgh 29/08/2008 13:42:48
It's worth noting that this outdoor plaza is now empty. During the fringe festival it saw some use. Now everyone has gone home, it's not even being used.

The changes have essentially resulted in a loss of parking and a lot wasted of money: Typical of this useless council's visions.
15

Kate,

Zurich 29/08/2008 14:01:27
13, Statsman, you have not read the full article; the trees are being REPLACED with others which would last longer...
16

Logie Almond,

29/08/2008 14:11:17
I know it's not finished but I had a look the other day and to be frank I could see no evidence of any improvements. How on earth can this be costing £6m?
17

Statsman,

Edinburgh 29/08/2008 14:12:14
15 Kate, Zurich

So what happens to the Poplar Trees? That is five dead trees once they are uprooted.

Even if they are replaced, it means Germany has five less trees. I fail to see your logic. 10-5 = 5
18

Baroness Fortitude III,

29/08/2008 14:13:52
What a tree-mendous idea.
19

Statsman,

Edinburgh 29/08/2008 14:15:33
16 Logie Almond

I'd guess the majority of that money was consultancy fees.
20

P F,

Grassmarket 29/08/2008 14:45:40
The article is factually inaccurate - 2 tree surveys have been commissioned (1 by the council) that state the trees are perfectly healthy and there would be no arborocultural reasons for removing them. The architect, Gillespies, have identified the trees in question to have an expected life of 30 years or more. The only reason to cut down the trees is to fit with Gillespies 'vision' for an improved environment.
21

Whiskey,

29/08/2008 14:53:22
My roots are in Auld Reekie!!
22

P F,

Grassmarket 29/08/2008 15:03:37
I also have copies of the architects plans which prove that the council spokesperson is being 'economical' with the truth to say the least. More than happy to share these with anyone who'd be interested in exposing this.
23

Bored,

29/08/2008 15:10:32
#13 Statesman

If the existing trees are rotting/decaying inside as the article suggests, then they are actualy producing co2. Therefore, it would be the greener option to remove them. Not to mention the fact that in a few years time bits of them could start falling off and hitting people enjoying their alfresco munchies.
24

P F,

29/08/2008 15:17:39
#23
The point is they're not decaying - the council have made this up to justify cutting down the trees. The architects own survey states that the trees are in good health.
25

P F,

29/08/2008 15:19:14
#23
The point is they're not decaying - the council have made this up to justify cutting down the trees. The Gillespies survey lists all the trees as healthy.
26

Statsman,

Edinburgh 29/08/2008 15:24:06
23 Bored

Why would anyone believe the council with regard to anything?

Do the trees look like they are all dying?

http://www.ekeout.co.uk/Images/Grassmarket4.JPG
http://tinyurl.com/6j43a4
27

Bored,

29/08/2008 15:32:17
#26 Statsman

Not really, that is why I started my post with the word if.
28

Bored,

29/08/2008 15:41:39
Come to think of it, I wouldn't believe anything printed in this newspaper either, even the ensuing comments.
29

Bridge Builder,

29/08/2008 15:44:11
A fairly obvious question - why do we need to get replacement trees from Germany?
30

Forth Right,

29/08/2008 16:16:07
Hmmmm. It's a tough one. chopping down trees or... keeping the streets clear of litter, free of dog turds, improving transport, removing rubbish on time. I know what I'd rather the council spent their time on!

Come on Council - this is a world heritage site! Treat it with some respect and look after the trees you are already responsible for.
31

Niko Bellic,

The second hand bookshop on Dundas Street 29/08/2008 17:13:57

#29 - are you being racial about immigrant trees?

"Aw these immigrant trees, come over here, steal all our dog's p_ss"
32

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

29/08/2008 18:11:05
#31: It'll give all those German Shepherds somewhere to go...
33

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

Newington Pun Factory 29/08/2008 18:14:03
The Council should be told to leave it out with their German trees. No doubt the poplar front in the Grassmarket are sycamore interference down there. Things have just got worse with the SNP at the 'elm.

We will fight them on the beeches...
34

The Nearly Doctor,

Edinburgh 29/08/2008 18:20:30
I've heard of regermanation in trees, but this is just ridiculous.
35

Kitti Kat,

Newtown Square 29/08/2008 21:59:51
I would think twice about oak trees. I have several and they are dirty,drop leaves from autumn until spring. If the exixting trees must come down there's better trees than oak.
36

Julian.,

edinburgh 30/08/2008 00:25:16
Statsman,

Although there may be doubt as to whether these trees are decaying, relying on your judgement as to the health of these trees based on a picture you've looked at is probably even less reliable.

Maybe Hazel Mollison would like to furnish us with the source of the experts report just to settle this matter.
37

Douglas,

Bathgate 31/08/2008 11:13:12
Thirty six posts and no-one accused the council of taking the pith.

 

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