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The Edinburgh primary schools that parents want to avoid



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Published Date: 02 May 2008
EDINBURGH'S least popular primary schools attract fewer than half the pupils in their catchment areas, as parents choose to send their children elsewhere, new figures revealed today.
The situation is worst at under-threat Bonnington Primary in Leith, where just one-in-six pupils living in the area actually goes to the school.

By contrast, the school with the highest number of pupils taking up their automatic placement is Ratho
Primary, with almost 98 per cent of its P1 pupils coming from the catchment area.

The insight into the most and least popular primaries has been provided by a city council report revealing the number of requests by parents for their children to be given places at different schools.

It shows that in 24 city primaries last year, at least half of their potential pupils were educated elsewhere.

Winners and losers in popularity contest: how does your child's school compare?

The four schools revealed by the Evening News last week as facing the new closure hit-list – Lismore, Bonnington, Victoria and Westburn – are all suffering as a result of catchment children being sent to other schools. Bonnington has the lowest take-up of primary one catchment places in the Capital, at just over 15 per cent.

Campaigners preparing to fight the closure plans today blamed the uncertainty over their future for their falling school rolls. But the city's education leader, Councillor Marilyne MacLaren insisted parents had the right to choose where their children were educated.

She said: "As Edinburgh is a vibrant capital city there are a number of parents who choose to send their children to schools outwith their catchment area for a variety of personal reasons.

"The council follows Scottish Government legislation which allows parents to state a preference in the schools where they send their children.

"This legislation stipulates that if there is space in a school, we cannot refuse a child a place, even if it is not their catchment area.

"Catchments apart, we have too many places in a number of our schools, which is why we are reviewing our school estate."

So far this year, the city council has received 933 requests from parents of new primary one pupils asking for their children to be given places at different schools.

This comes after recent Scottish Government statistics showed more parents in Edinburgh were asking to send their children outside their catchment area than anywhere else in Scotland.

Just over 1900 placing requests – for primary children of all ages – were made by parents of children in city primaries last year. A total of 73 per cent were granted.

Tina Woolnough, founder of the pressure group Parents in Partnership, said schools were suffering from the publicity surrounding the city council's closure plans. Last September, the council ditched its original plan to shut 22 schools and four community centres, but a new hit-list is now being worked on.

Ms Woolnough said: "The whole debacle of last summer's school closure programme would have had a major effect on some schools. Last year I know a number of parents left Bonnington because they felt it was about to shut at any minute.

"It's a vicious circle. I would encourage parents to do their research and make sure they base their decisions on facts, because sometimes parents base their decisions on things that aren't necessarily true.

"I can't see that choosing where to send your child does any harm, and there are various reasons why parents send their children to different schools – like being close to their work or childcare.

"What I do object to is the council artificially capping schools when people can see quite clearly that they still have places." Gail Ross, secretary of Lismore Parents Action Group, believes Lismore Primary has suffered as a result of being on two closure hit-lists in recent years.

Just 42 per cent of children in the school's catchment area are going there, according to today's figures. Ms Ross said: "The figure has to be based on the fact that they are going to shut the school.

"Last time we lost a lot of pupils because parents get scared when they think the school is going to close, and the first thing they do is send their children to a different school."

Tory group leader Councillor Iain Whyte, who requested the figures from the council, says having them to hand will help politicians when considering the closure proposals.

He said: "The figures back up our view that we should trust parents to know what's best for their child, and if there are schools that have spaces we should be advertising that to parents.

"It does hint that there possibly could be some more additional movement, and if the council feels it's absolutely necessary to go ahead with a school rationalisation programme, it's quite clear that it should be in line with parental wishes."





The full article contains 823 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 02 May 2008 12:06 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Schools in Edinburgh
 
1

Mist001,

Marseille 02/05/2008 12:16:06
A case of chickens coming home to roost Mrs Ross, don't you think? Keep your loud mouthed rottweiller friend in a muzzle and you might get more support instead of bleating excuse after excuse.

Michael.
2

A Leither,

02/05/2008 12:19:00
And do you know why Bonnington has such a low figure ? Because so far now in the last year the EEN has twice 'leaked' news that it's on the closure list. Both times have sparked panic amongst parents and they've taken their kids out to other schools. My daughter's class keeps shrinking every time.

Well done EEN and the council - your 'leaks' (cough cough) are having the desired effect so that you can get the pupil levels low enough to justify axing the place. Am I alone in suspecting the leaks have perhaps been more than accidental ?
3

KV,

Leith 02/05/2008 12:34:38
The very basic problem with this article is that it simply does not address the problem with catchment areas; many of which are no longer relevant. There are 3 primaries near Leith Walk and a further 3 within close walking distance, all of which have high out-of-catchment placements [and not simply the P1 intake listed in this article]. These children attend out-of-catchment for a variety of reasons: (1) proximity to school; (2) provision of after-school care; (3) proximity to transport routes for working parents; (4) availability of nursery placements and/or daycare for younger siblings; (5) safe travel routes, particularly on Leith Walk which is a disaster area for pedestrians right now; (6) availability of placements for other siblings in the school - particularly for families moving into new catchments. The artificial capping of P1 intakes over the last few years for all primaries, coupled with the uncertainity of possible closures and very real misinformation concerning schools [perpetuated in no small part by this newspaper] has led to a confusing situation for parents who simply want the best future for their children.

It is also worth noting that the council consistently fails to consider 1-2 bedroom apartments in its calculation of future school rolls. Families do live in these over-crowded conditions, but they are simply not included in the projections for future enrollment. This is a problem the Evening news has yet to mention.
4

Peedie Paws,

Edinburgh 02/05/2008 12:50:12
Well said #2. Spread rumours that the school is on the list to close, remove pupils, school closes and permission is granted by the councilto demolish the building and turn it into houses which will sell for a high price and the council comes off quids in!
5

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

02/05/2008 13:06:15
Parents are far too fussy. They should be made to commit to the area they live in. If not, they should move out & let others contribute.
6

Going down the pan..,

02/05/2008 13:15:43
Council spin to lay the ground for closures.
7

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

, Newington 02/05/2008 13:23:28
It's time to admit that politically-run education means second-rate schools and privatise the whole education sector.
8

portboy,

Edinburgh 02/05/2008 13:40:01
#5 - you either have no children or have children and don't really care how they get on in life. if like me you pay almost a grand in tax a month, let me decide where my children are best placed, at the taxpayers expense!!!!!! and no, before you say private education, I want to at least get something back from council, cause lets face it, we dont get it back any way else. move out...house prices.... you live on cloud cuckoo land, go take the dog for a walk
9

tomias,

Edinburgh 02/05/2008 15:10:27
Portboy yes- longish since but I chose private and all of it worked well, having removed them from state illrun primaries- ill run in many respects.
10

Bravetart,

02/05/2008 18:09:01
Parents choosing schools outside their catchment area isn't always a reflection on the standard of teaching at the school but of the other parents. Who wants to send their children to a school full of kids whose parents don't want to learn anything or do anything with their lives and have no intention of encouraging their offspring to do any different.
11

brettgallacher,

edinburgh 02/05/2008 18:54:25
its simple, stop allowing people to hand pick their school, go to a school in your catchment area, my daughter suffered because of this, when she was initially told she couldnt go the school which she was at the nursery and her whole family for over 35 years had went to , i had to threaten education board with legal action before she was allowed to go , the biggest problem is allowing people of a certain minority to hand pick their school so they can all be together , go upto both schools on gilmerton road and you will see all these kids taking over certain schools while most of them live nowhere near school some of them dont even live in edinburgh
12

brettgallacher,

edinburgh 02/05/2008 18:59:30
plus dont listen to tina the big mouth i want to be an msp woolnough
13

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

02/05/2008 20:15:58
#8 - It's people like Portbouy who are milking the system for all it's worth. They're the problem - thinking their kids are a cut above their neighbours, but not willing to spend money on them. Selfish mob - tax them more if they educate outwith their local catchment area. You'll soon see how much their kids are really worth to them.
14

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

02/05/2008 20:19:56
There are always selfish, inconsiderate people out for themselves, sponging off those who duly pay their way & support their communities & neighbourhoods, as good citizens should.
15

Ffion,

outwith the right catchment area 02/05/2008 21:15:21
parents base their decision on anything but reality when choosing schools-eg assessment tests, whether other parents at school are suitably posh and whether their school takes in any cooncil catchment areas. Go look at the school & the kids and how happy they are-not test results or whether the other parents drive Saabs or Volvos and stop using council schools as cheap prep-schools.
16

WJohn,

West Lothian 03/05/2008 00:27:08
Best to watch where the secondary school teachers send their children.
They know first hand the differences between primary schools.
17

Baron Wallac,

MagdabingHame 03/05/2008 02:44:14
#1 Well said! Ho ho ho

Apparently, allegedly they are inbred and related to certain degree.

Mist you are indeed the master of wit and wisdom. Barron et al are misguided and cabalistic in their approach. Pots and kettles etc etc etc . Funny that you missed the police interest in Wallac.

Keep up your campaign Marseille as it is working a treat.

xxx Linda
18

rebbecca-louise smith,

edinburgh 03/05/2008 09:14:11
I think this is wrong I went to Bonnington for the best of 7 years and there is not a day that goes by that i don't think of that school I don't care what you say i love bonnington from the very bottom of my heart the staff are great, the food is delicious, the learning is unbelievable, its great and easy to make friends, there is never a boring day at bonnington primary school

I go to trinity academy now in s1 but i get up every morning and wish I could go back!

I miss bonnington day in and day out!


I hate GEMMA FRASER for saying such horrible things because to me bonnington will always be the best!

Please don't close down bonnington primary I don't want never see my old teacher again!


I miss you loads bonnington primary school!



i hate what was said in the newspaper bonnington is the best and will always be to me love you bonnington primary school!
19

Graeme Dobie,

Edinburgh 05/05/2008 02:24:47
This is an entirely spurious and arbitrary measure which doesn’t even represent what the authors claim.

In fact it represents the exact OPPOSITE of what it reports to show; Parents have actually opted IN to place their children at these particular schools, even if it isn’t the most convenient one.

Surely a POPULAR school has a good reputation which extends far beyond the immediate catchment area.

Conversely an UNPOPULAR school would only appeal to parents who lived nearby.

My children were enrolled in Victoria Primary School in Newhaven, we were forced to move slightly beyond the catchment area, yet we chose to keep the kids at the school because of the excellent staff.

Somehow this now seems to count against them!

 

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