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Published Date: 30 August 2008
POLICE have helped seize "tartan tat" and advertisements from shops on the Royal Mile to help de-clutter the famous street.
Kilts, souvenir T-shirts and kilt towels are among a haul of more than 40 items taken in the raids on gift shops.

The confiscated items, including ten advertising boards, were judged by the council's city centre roads staff to be blocking the pavement.

Traders have reacted angrily to the move, accusing the police and council of "stealing" their property.

All goods sitting on the pavement were seized in the sweep and traders have been warned they face fines of up to £1000 before they will be returned.

Shop assistant Michael Wrozek was working in the Heritage of Scotland shop on the High Street when he noticed some of its kilts which had been hanging outside the shop were missing.

At first he thought they had been stolen, until a customer described seeing police and officials taking them.

After contacting the council, he said: "I was told if something was sticking out more than two inches from the wall it needed to be taken down. I don't remember any letter about it."

Whiski Bar owner Anne Still's £300 custom-made sign was seized for being 20cm too tall.

She said: "They didn't even have the courtesy to come in and talk to us. They just took it.

"I have wasted police time now reporting it, and I wasted hours checking my CCTV because I thought someone had pinched it."

Rebecca Staples, general manager, added: "People look at the menu on the big board and decide to come in, so basically now we're going to lose business.

"Some shops had stock lifted. It's like theft."

Council rules introduced last year dictate where exactly advertising boards can be placed, and restrict board sizes to one metre in height and 0.75 metres in width.

The raids were described as a great success by councillor Robert Aldridge, the city's environment leader, who warned they would be repeated elsewhere.

"All affected businesses were pre-warned about this action both verbally and by letter, sent by recorded delivery," he said. "This crackdown went very well, and we were delighted with the high level of compliance shown by the majority of Royal Mile businesses.

"Although some goods were found obstructing the footway, these were predominantly oversized advertising boards, which were removed in line with the council's policy."

He said the crackdown was ordered after some shops ignored repeated warnings.

Old Town Community Council planning secretary Bill Cowan said officials had gone too far.

"There is no need for these A-boards, but when it comes to stock it is a different matter. We are desperate to encourage retail in the Old Town," he said.

"These rules say no stock at all and we don't agree with that. We want to try to encourage individual retailers."


Are the authorities right to seize goods from outside the shops?

Liz Barron, 50, sales assistant, Bingham: "If there's still enough room for shoppers and residents to go past, it shouldn't be a problem. If they've got stuff outside it draws people in."

Margaret Macdonald, 77, retired finance assistant, Baberton Mains Place: "There are parts where I don't think it would be a problem, but there are other parts where the pavement is quite narrow, so it should be discretionary."

Jim Taylor, 54, taxi driver, The Murrays Brae: "That's not a police matter. The police always say they don't have time to do this, that and the other. Why are they doing this?"

THE RESULTS

THE council seized:

• 15 souvenir T-shirts

• 6 assorted kilts

• 7 kilt towels

• 10 advertising boards

• 2 waterproof jackets

• 4 wall brackets

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  • Last Updated: 01 September 2008 10:09 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Royal Mile
 
1

Toast,

30/08/2008 12:08:39
Is this really the best use of police manpower,what a joke.
2

alex paterson,

edinburgh 30/08/2008 12:13:49
And all this when there is real crime going on,waste.
3

Restalrig Road,

30/08/2008 12:23:33
#1

Careful - you can't say 'manpower' any more. It's RESOURCES now. Just trying to keep the PC PC's from your door - they've nowt else to do after all.
4

Douglas,

Bathgate 30/08/2008 12:31:54
Absolutely world class. Not a clue how to perform the simplest task without making it look like a rag week stunt.
5

Niko Bellic,

Lichtenstein 30/08/2008 12:32:42

Rebecca Staples shouldn't have been quoted here. there ain't no staples in th EEN
6

Niko Bellic,

Lichtenstein 30/08/2008 12:36:36

#4 where's your funny jokes today, my humorous friend?
7

Chris.J,

Edinburgh 30/08/2008 12:49:24
Hang on guys... most of these shops are total parasites that blight one of the most amazing heritage areas in the world and rip-off tourists with pretendy Scottish tat. Few of them actually contribute anything to the local economy and source their goods from cheap overseas manufacturers - if they want to make money out of Edinburgh's image then they should respect what makes it so special!!

They are breaking local bye-laws, they have been warned, they continued to ignore the warnings - of course the council should take enforcement action.
8

madrab,

edinburgh 30/08/2008 12:51:17
Good to see my hard earned taxes being put to good use.

Lothian's finest at their best.

I hope they filled out their overtime sheets correctly.
9

Niko Bellic,

Compton 30/08/2008 12:58:09

#11 Are you on mental tablets? Just cos people think you're unfunny doesn't mean you're being stalked, far from it - if you disappeared off these threads, Edinburgh the Lothians and Fife would breathe a collective sight of relief.
10

Chris.J,

Edinburgh 30/08/2008 12:59:02
#11 I'm not arguing that they don't have the right to sell whatever tat they want - but they shouldn't be polluting the pavements with it and spoiling the street. That's why I don't have any sympathy with them. And why shouldn't the council take enforcement action when the rules are being so openly flouted? Rule of law and all that...
As for that bloody music... if only there was a law against that too?!
11

NorT,

Edinburgh 30/08/2008 13:23:13
If they are obstructing the pavement they can be charged under the Roads (Scotland) Act but that does NOT apply to goods haging on the wals or from the caopies. If such goods were removed then those taking them should be reported for theft. In any case it would have been sensible to ask the shopkeepers to remove them first before they were forcibly removed. There again the police and council officials are not sensible just little hitlers.
12

The Judge,

30/08/2008 13:25:04
7 kilt towels

WTF is a kilt towel?

#14 the shops in question were told sometime ago to remove the stock from the streets, they refused so the council were well within their rights to remove them.

I notice a few shops were missed out yesterday, I wonder why?
13

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

30/08/2008 13:32:30
"Traders have reacted angrily to the move, accusing the police and council of "stealing" their property"

Surely by placing it on a public thoroughfare, they were donating it to the public?
14

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30/08/2008 13:34:23
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15

Chris.J,

Edinburgh 30/08/2008 13:34:27
#15... go to http://www.instakilt.co.uk/

Classy huh? Right up there with the musical C U jimmy hat.

Seriously though you can't ban these shops and the garbage they sell to tourists, but at least we should be stopping them from turning the royal mile into a Blackpool seafront.
16

The Judge,

30/08/2008 13:37:55
#18 who on earth buys that krap? Anybody caught wearing a CU Jimmy hat should be locked up.
17

Douglas,

Bathgate 30/08/2008 14:04:08
#15 M'lord, I plead guilty to possession of the knowledge. It's a piece of junk bought by people like my daughter when let loose in Glasgow airport. The only upside of the article is watching the young and bewildered trying to dry off after a swim with something that is 100% oil by-product and non absorbent.
Weans eh? They never listen. :o)
18

tomias,

Edinburgh 30/08/2008 14:21:13
Visit Rothenberg ab de Tauber a medievil city- NO tat of any sort what soever; McDonald at the edge of the city centre has it sign in metal and inside the shop.
The High Street tatty shops should be as the City should be a city of heritage- just like its building old a the new ones still to come.
Anyway am still on edge waiting to spot a cumely lass in a t-towel kilt; Oh come on Rabbie,where are you when we need you?
19

Fiona SJ Brown,

Formerly of Edinburgh 30/08/2008 14:25:40
I used to work on the Mile for the National Trust and these places make a mockery of all the regulations that we had to adhere to, about time the council practised what they preach!
20

Brindo,

Dunstable 30/08/2008 14:29:27
Authorities should not seize goods without making every effort to do so in the presence of the owner or owner's representative.
21

i a n,

Edinburgh 30/08/2008 14:39:06
Princes Street should be next on the agenda - the nuisance loudspeakers should also be removed!

These 'tartan tat' shops are an embarrassment to Edinburgh and it is not before time that the Council took some action against them.
22

Agent 99,

30/08/2008 15:08:30
[21]Tomias. I think it's 'comely' as in lass.

Then again, perhaps you did mean cumely.
23

Niko Bellic,

Compton 30/08/2008 15:14:44

#25 new name already?

Tomias saw a comely lass of 68 - cradle snatcher
24

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

30/08/2008 16:04:12
What about the tables & chairs that decorate the pavements ?
25

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

30/08/2008 16:04:34
#28 - good point
26

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

30/08/2008 16:13:16
Many of the Fringe acts have departed and left their posters up around the city. Time to warn them that unless they're all taken down, they'll be fined for each and every one left. Flyposting is against the local bylaws too...
27

tomias,

Edinburgh 30/08/2008 16:24:10
Bggggr me in line for an EEN asbo!
Anyway the old spellings were by semiliterates- CUE apt responces.responses ues verbiage and nonceage !
Thankyou the above
28

JT,

30/08/2008 17:47:48
Can the resourses of the police be used in a more useless manner? Ok these people sell tat, however there is a market for this so let them get on with on it within reason. Why hasnt the police done anything about the shops that make our ears bleed with electronic pipe music that is really bad for the environment??
29

blackley,

Edinburgh 30/08/2008 19:07:14
You know the rules, traders! If you don't then you shouldn't be trading!
30

Tom Conway,

30/08/2008 20:04:20
Ye hypocrits are these yer pranks
tae murder men, and gi'e God thanks
Oor shame! gi'e o'er - proceed no further
God won't accept your thanks for murther

God will not
31

Tom Conway,

30/08/2008 20:07:58
I thought a wee bit o' Rabbie would be appropriate at this time in the rammy. This was written after the battle of Trafalger
32

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

30/08/2008 20:42:34
the royal mile is full o' tat
what has trafalgar got to do with that ?
I repeat, the article is about royal mile tat
And not about Trafalgar, ye' ignorant prat.
33

Scotish Exile,

30/08/2008 21:00:27
Amazing, they can find the resources for this, but if your house was broken into....forget it. They should round up the stupid tourists that buy this sh*te and deport them forth with
34

Road Raga,

EDINBURGH 30/08/2008 21:00:32
If you have a shop, the boundary stops at your frontage. You have no right to expand your shop onto the pavement, that is for pedestrians, not your MADE IN CHINA rubbish !
I am sick of all that junk lying about spoiling the historic buildings , well done the Council !
35

igloo,

Edinburgh 30/08/2008 21:02:12
Blah, blah,
There was one Police Officer in the street for about half an hour. He took no part in the removal of goods.
It was a council decision and action, partly based on complaints from members of the public.

Some people want to get out and see for themselves what is going on.
All the traders were given fair warning with a copy of the regulations that the council would be taking action and when they do everyone starts greetin their eyes out.
Once again it is a minority who have spoiled it for the rest of the traders, and no I'm not being racist using the word minority to describe those responsible.
36

CLOUNIC,

Edinburgh 30/08/2008 21:08:44
OK FOLKS......HERE'S SOME INFO FROM SOMEONE IN THE KNOW....

FIRSTLY, LOTHIAN & BORDERS POLICE KINDLY ASSISTED ON THIS ISSUE BUT DUE TO COMPLIANCE FROM THE TRADERS, WERE NEVER REALLY INVOLVED ON SITE TO ANY EXTENT. NICE TO KNOW THEY ARE THERE FOR THE SUPPORT THOUGH.WELL DONE L&BP

SECONDLY, THIS WHOLE EVENING NEWS ARTICLE IS REMARKABLY INACCURATE SO THE EVENING NEWS SHOULD GET THEIR FACTS RIGHT BEFORE REPORTING SUCH SENSATIONAL DRIBBLE - A SLOW NEWS DAY I THINK?

THIRDLY, THESE MUPPETS ON THE LAWNMARKET WHO CONTINUALLY FLOUT THE LAW.....YES I SAID "THE LAW" (ROADS SCOTLAND ACT 1984) DO THIS BECAUSE THE CONSEQUENSES OF BEING TOLD OFF BY THE COUNCIL VERSUS MAKING MONEY, IS AN EASY DECISION TO MAKE FOR THEM. I CAN IMAGINGE THAT THE COUNCUL WILL MAKE SURE THAT THESE WANNABE STREET TRADERS WILL FEEL IT IN THEIR POCKETS IF THEY CONTINUE TO FLOUT THE LAW.

LASTLY, WELL DONE TO ALL CONCERNED IN THIS INITITIVE FOR TRYING TO KEEP EDINBURGH A HERITAGE CITY AND NOT AN EXTENSION OF INGLISTON MARKET. I HOPE THAT THE GOOD WORK CONTINUES.

COUNCIL 1 V ROUGE TRADERS 0
37

Wolf Cry,

30/08/2008 22:49:18
Those sellers are not the original sellers!!
Move the family back to junction street or further afield.................

Bring back parkers ect..
38

Wolf Cry,

30/08/2008 22:51:58
This is the same family that sell two pair of lebi's for £3-00............
at ingleston and east fortune.......
39

Gehon,

31/08/2008 08:24:11
The Geniune Mario Antionette needs to get a job.
40

Davyboy,

31/08/2008 09:55:39
Shops are for selling, pavements are for walking on not to be used as shop extensions!!!
Keep your cheap tat inside your shops!
41

igloo,

Edinburgh 31/08/2008 10:38:02
"Shop assistant Michael Wrozek was working in the Heritage of Scotland shop on the High Street when he noticed some of its kilts which had been hanging outside the shop were missing."

What if the items had been stolen, all the more reason for not hanging things outside.

#42 Gorgie Tony,
Abused and assaulted every day, I see a common denominator here. I think if you have been a victim on such a regular occasion and "reported it" and nothing has been done, then you have every right to complain. Have you ? or do you just make up the stories and use the posting because you are anti-establishment?

#33 JT
What have you done about it, get off your A**e, you can report them. Not everything is a police matter.

Contact the Performing Rights Society or Licence Standards Agency, as they are broadcasting music in a public place for which they need a licence.

Kwik Fit were fined £40,000 for playing radios in their workshops where the public could hear the music.
42

CurlySue,

31/08/2008 11:30:41
It doesn't help the eyesore at 112 Canongate - they just move the junk off the pavement and put it in the walkway of the building. I dont know who the landlord is but he should hang his head in shame for leasing out the walkway of this amazing building to be used as a street market. Philistine! As far as the music goes the shopkeeper is aware that the music annoys local residents, people working in the area and other shop-keepers. He has had loads of complaints and even a write up in the good old Evening News. They don't care. So much for race relations!!!
43

CurlySue,

31/08/2008 11:34:12
#48 Contact the Performing Rights Society or Licence Standards Agency, as they are broadcasting music in a public place for which they need a licence.

That's been done but nothing happened.

Environmental Health say music is not loud enough.

Get the feeling that these shop-keepers are a protected species!!!


44

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

31/08/2008 13:23:11
#42: You're quite right. The police should be privatised. Then if they don't do what the customers want, we'll quit paying our subscription.
45

HolyRude,

31/08/2008 13:55:46
#42 Does that include the criminals???

Are you not a bit 'OFF TOPIC' - as they say on all the best forums
46

HolyRude,

31/08/2008 14:05:52
# 33 - There is not law to prevent these shops playing music.

# 49 Agreed no law to stop them playing music. But they know they are p******everyone off and yet they do it! Are they racists perhaps??? Does the ****** music help sales? I don't think so - they just want to p*** everyone off -just wonder why???
47

HolyRude,

31/08/2008 14:11:10
# 49 I think its the Council! Check out the 'Canongate Stores' run by the same gang - another Council property with a street market in the foyer!!!!
48

yorkshirepudding,

just visiting 31/08/2008 14:13:16
"Shop assistant Michael Wrozek was working in the Heritage of Scotland shop on the High Street when he noticed some of its kilts which had been hanging outside the shop were missing.

At first he thought they had been stolen, until a customer described seeing police and officials taking them."

To me this would indicate that it's the council wanting to prove a point and the police were around to stop them getting clobbered when an irate shop owner found then making off with their stock. They could at least have had the courtesy to let them know they intended depleting their goods for sale outside..... Amazing!

I now realise that all councils are as bad as each other - run by monkeys. Theiving ones at that on this occasion.!

49

HolyRude,

31/08/2008 14:21:12
# 55 Perhaps the council didn't send out a notice in Polish!
50

celtic4,

USA 31/08/2008 16:56:32
If it is Scottish music...PLAY ON!!!!!
51

HolyRude,

31/08/2008 17:17:34
# 57 from USA There's a time and a place and everyone has the right to listen to music of their choice not to have it forced upon whether they like it or not. I'm sure you would change your mind if you had to listen to the same music played on really poor quality speakers over and over and over again all day everyday even on a Sunday. It's torture! Please re-think your comment.
52

MoiraMac,

31/08/2008 18:25:05
Kwik-Fit get fined, the pipers get Asbo's yet the Tartan Tat shops are allowed to play their awful music! What's going on?

Well done to the Council and Police this has been well overdue - hopefully they will do something about the music next.

Interesting that the Council allow shops to set up shop in the entrance to residential buildings! I know 112 Canongate & Canongate Stores - it's a complete eyesore! Health & Safety rules don't seem to be considered in these properties. Shocking!!!
53

Niko Bellic,

31/08/2008 19:56:46

#57 The Mary Chain, Test Department and Hugh Reid & The Velvet Underpants - all Scottish music that they should be playing, not the plastic brigadoon simulacra they shops blare out, likesay.





54

Taxi for Brellier,

Edinburgh 31/08/2008 22:52:22
Excellent news.................can the Police keep the ball rolling and clear the walkways of shopping arcades of the same guff.
55

HolyRude,

31/08/2008 23:23:48
Old Town Community Council planning secretary Bill Cowan said officials had gone too far.

"There is no need for these A-boards, but when it comes to stock it is a different matter. We are desperate to encourage retail in the Old Town," he said.

"These rules say no stock at all and we don't agree with that. We want to try to encourage individual retailers."

Who pays Bill Cowan's wages? Please don't tell me its the taxpayer!
56

Ian down under,

Musselburgh 01/09/2008 01:56:24
Surely these shops should be protected as local treasures.They are selling all the local, indigenous memorabilia as assembled by patriotic Scottish factories in Beijing.
57

CurlySue,

01/09/2008 11:35:04
Is that an 'Isle of Skye' tartan kilt in the photo?? I hope they have a licence

 

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