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Rangers make £1m Berra bid but Hearts captain eyes Wolves



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Published Date: 10 June 2008
By BARRY ANDERSON
WOLVERHAMPTON Wanderers remain clear favourites to sign Christophe Berra despite Rangers submitting an audacious £1million offer for the Hearts captain yesterday.
The Ibrox club opted for a decidedly low and somewhat bold introductory bid given that Vladimir Romanov refused Wolves' £1.5m offer for Berra only last week. Hearts are steadfastly sticking to their £2m valuation of the defender and would be reluctant sellers to either of the Old Firm in any case.

Yesterday's approach by Rangers remains academic at the moment. With Wolves preparing an increased proposal, Molineux is Berra's most likely destination for next season. He is keen to sample English football and enhance his international prospects by participating in an intended promotion push with the Championship club.

Hearts are aware of their captain's intentions to leave but will only allow him to talk with clubs willing to pay a minimum £2m.

Despite Rangers completing the permanent signing of former Tynecastle centre-back Andy Webster from Wigan Athletic yesterday, they harbour doubts over his long-term fitness and have identified Berra as a possible replacement. Additionally, David Weir, at 38, is nearing the end of his top-level career, therefore manager Walter Smith is already scouring for defensive reinforcements capable of stepping into the breach.

Berra is currently on holiday and has put all discussions on his future on hold until he returns later this month. He is due to report back to Riccarton with the rest of Hearts' squad for preliminary tests on June 25, with pre-season training scheduled to begin five days later.

• HEARTS will welcome English Premier League newcomers Hull City to Tynecastle for a pre-season friendly in August.

The match, scheduled for Sunday, August 3, is likely to be the Edinburgh club's final warm-up game before the SPL season starts six days later. As revealed in yesterday's Evening News, friendlies with Kaiserslautern and Wehen Wiesbaden have already been arranged for July during the pre-season tour of Germany.

Tickets and kick-off times have yet to be finalised for Hull's visit to Edinburgh, but the game should be an attractive fixture given the Yorkshire side secured promotion to the Premier League last season.

Hearts last faced Hull three years ago, when they secured a 1-0 victory at the KC Stadium during the early days of George Burley's reign.


The full article contains 399 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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1

CBJambo,

10/06/2008 11:51:16
My hatred for rangers grows more and more as i read of their derisory offers to other clubs in the spl... the national team suffers when all the players ply their trade with the ugly sisters... or more likely warm the benches there.

Also, sick fed up of hearing about who's leaving the club... and no talk of the world record attempt by Hearts to take the longest time possible in appointing a new manager. A pathetic way to treat the fans, players and run a club... those upstairs should be ashamed.

Haven't renewed my ST and won't until a manager of worth is appointed.

Rant over... back to work.

2

huggs,

10/06/2008 11:55:58
#2 Good post mate surely something has to happen soon on the managerial front!!
I will not be back if Frail is still in charge
We still have time before pre season starts so still hopefull
3

GrahamL,

10/06/2008 11:57:13
Rangers seem to be new to this bidding malarkey

Wolves: "We'll offer £1.5m for Berra"
Hearts: "No. Make it £2m and we'll talk"
Wolves: "Hmm, we'll have a think"
Rangers: "Would you accept £1m?"

And, of course, lets not forget the offer to play back up to Andy Webster. Yeesh. How's that for a tempting offer - half the asking price and a place in the reserves!
4

Pride Eh The Capital,

10/06/2008 11:57:42
1# First to post again i see, you really are a sad case!

2# Well said CBJ!

Rangers to a tee, Wolves bid £1.5mil, Walter come on as if Hearts will accept £1mil to a team in there own leaugue.

And the rape on Scottish Football continues!
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huggs,

10/06/2008 12:01:40
Why we need to sell him i dont know he gets better and better surely worth keeping another season
I cant beleive we are even talking of selling players until a manager is appointed
Not looking to good
7

Lenny,

10/06/2008 12:03:32
I remember not long ago Rolland was slating Hibs for playing Wigan in the pre season friendly. Wee team wee friendly I'm sure he said.

Well Rolland, are you looking forward to the big games against Hull and Coventry? I will have to make do with our wee games against Wigan, Middlesbrough and Barca I suppose.

(Appologies to decent Jambo's, I just love it when folk like Rollands comments come back to haunt them. which is quite usual)
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10/06/2008 12:04:02
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Voice of the mysterons,

Mars 10/06/2008 12:06:06
Lots of touchy posters already. £1M clearly the unsettling bid like the 400,000 for Naismith last year. Fortunately for Killie that went up by 500%

Hull City - this is the big pre season opener then. Was it just a year ago Hibs were derided for playing Middlesborugh and Bolton Wanderers while Hearts were playing Barca?

Let's hope the season doesn't go the same way.
10

Sir Minty Moonbeams, Casino Royale,

10/06/2008 12:06:13
I , Sir Minty Moonbeams, reluctant owner of RFC, am responsible for the £1m offer for Berra.

The trick is that I get my poodles in the press now to hypothesise about how Berra would fit right in at Ibrox, that his career would grow and he could be a future rangers' captain and take genome research further in a rainjurs tap.

The player reads all this tosh and starts to believe it and then presses his chairman to let himp go to RFC.

That brings the price down, and Sir Minty always likes a bargain.
11

Optimus Prime,

Cybertron 10/06/2008 12:06:21
The arrogance of the Old Firm never fails to amaze me. It has been widely reported a 1.5m bid for Berra has been turned down and 2m is required so why do they bother submitting a bid for 1m?

How ironic it is on the same day the Andy Webster, David Murray/Dave Whelan stich up of Hearts has finally be completed.
12

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10/06/2008 12:07:09
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Lion-O "Lord Of The ThunderCats,

10/06/2008 12:07:10
Where is the fabled Ibrox "war chest" that the laptop loyal keep on telling us about? Surely after making a mint last season from the run in Europe Gers must be awash with cash if they can pay Derby £2m for Kenny Miller and £1m for Velicka?

Have all the profits gone towards repaying the £40m loan from Joe Lewis at ENIC or are Spurs repaying this by paying silly transfer fees for Rangers players??
14

Lenny,

10/06/2008 12:07:53
Indie Rep Kid,

Typical Hobo? Sweeping generalisation there. Are the Jambos that spout cr-p on the Hibs stories typical Yams?
15

Langenburger,

10/06/2008 12:09:10
Rangers are just playing the market and warning Motherwell that they can look elsewhere - they probably don't even want Christophe.
I just wish we had a manager and stopped selling our good players.
16

Lenny,

10/06/2008 12:09:54
Hi JT&T

I'm good ta. Been busy at work so not on as often.

I agree re the friendlies. Makes no difference who you play really, all about getting match fit and working on tactics. Just thought I would remind Rolland how stupid he can be!!!
17

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 10/06/2008 12:09:59
#2. Agree fully, new manager and the lack of, is only significant story.

How can Hearts contemplate selling any first team player, let alone the captain, when he may be what the new guy wants.

Surprised so many season tickets sold, I know myself and bundle of others that have had season tickets for 10 - 20 years are not renewing until see a way forward. I can't see the point in regular suffering on a Saturday next season as we did this, and given no signings, it's not going to be any better next year when viewed from this stage of close season.


Romanov has other interests and will perhaps throw a few bones, but real investment in the team, think we can forget that.
18

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10/06/2008 12:11:37
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10/06/2008 12:12:03
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Eggert,

Edinburgh 10/06/2008 12:13:43
Number 1

How is it a firesale when we rejected the offer and when hardly anyone has actually left us?

Also, who do Rankgers think they are? They always offer such pathetic amounts and try and take Scotlands best young talent away from their club just to ruin their future!

Wolves had a 1.5 million bid rejected so how on earth do they think we would accept 1 million?
21

Optimus Prime,

Cybertron 10/06/2008 12:14:14
#19

And why do you think it will be more that £2m?
22

Super Ally WATP,

10/06/2008 12:14:38
good job rangers, stick the dagger through the hearts (pun intended).

You all got arrogant 2 seasons ago and we told you we'd get you back one way or another, wether we do it on the field or off, you dont mess with the old firm when it comes to profile and money.

Welcome to Ibrox, Christophe.
23

paulmac,

surrey 10/06/2008 12:14:42
Wolves offer £1.5m....Hearts knock it back.....

So what do Rangers offer.....£1m....?

Who is the brains behind that decision?

Or are they banking on the old......he's a rangers supporter...so we can try and f*ck Hearts for the transfer fee.....and as a win double we can pay him lower than the going rate.....cos he wants to play for the club he supported as a boy!

The Rangers transfer shananigans has now become a bit of a circus!
24

Indie Rep Kid,

10/06/2008 12:14:52
#15 Lenny - fair point. Typical of a certain type of poster on here.

And I sincerely hope that certain Jambos on here are not 'typical'!!

By the way, thanks to whoever got my posts binned. Pathetic.
25

Optimus Prime,

Cybertron 10/06/2008 12:16:04
#24

"we told you we'd get you back one way or another"

Really is that for having the cheek to put up a challenge?
26

huggs,

10/06/2008 12:16:12
#24 You dont mess with the old firm
Not if your police and thousands are after you, cowardly scumbags
27

Bigwull,

edinburgh 10/06/2008 12:16:12
The cancer that's the old firm on scottish football continues to spread, boot them out and let them find their own league to play in as if anyone would have them after the Manchester fiasco, when are Rangers going to find out their punishment?
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Super Ally WATP,

10/06/2008 12:16:37
Also, the ONLY player in the last 5 years we have bought who was a young scot and been wasted was Alan Gow, your persistant excuses of "zomg the old firm are buying the best talent to ruin careers" was ridiculours, un true, and typical of the didddy teams in SPL who are un-able to accept our new policy in scottish back bones.
29

SDRAWKCAB,

Edinburgh 10/06/2008 12:17:24
All you guys that think Berra should stay are stupid. He clearly wants to leave tynecastle. To be fair, who would want to ply their trade in a pink bus shelter?

peace out!
30

Optimus Prime,

Cybertron 10/06/2008 12:18:50
#30

Just the one eh....ah that's alright then....
31

Eggert,

10/06/2008 12:18:50
#30 try bringing through you're own players you degenerate!
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10/06/2008 12:19:18
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Super Ally WATP,

10/06/2008 12:19:58
we have been bringing through our own players, who represent a good portion oif scotlands U20 squad and are U20 league champions and Cup champions, count it, 2 YEARS IN A ROW.
34

carrottop,

Dumfries 10/06/2008 12:20:24
Any truth that Rangers offered Andy Webster in part exchange?
35

huggs,

10/06/2008 12:20:58
#30 You classing yourself as Scottish now?
Didnt see many Saltires in Manchester you pull out the National games and have actually said you dont want your players playing for Scotland?
Very Scottish
And as for back bones you shouldnt even go there Cowards !!
36

Optimus Prime,

Cybertron 10/06/2008 12:22:27
I think Hearts should put in a £200,000 offer for Carlos Cuellar.
37

Super Ally WATP,

10/06/2008 12:23:29
Am i classing myself as scottish? is this the typical sterotype of Rangers fans thinking they are all british (which if you werent so thick and stupid, would know has 4 countrys to its bearing)?.

Frankly i saw hundreds of saltires in Manchester, Along with ---UNION--- jacks, which *shoch horror* represents 3 countrys colours.

Anyway, who are Hearts fans to criticise? if you all werent calling Romanov a messiah, you'd have took the warnings when we gave them, and now look at you, a team full of pash wee foreigners who cant even make top 6.
38

king franco,

DUNFERMLINE 10/06/2008 12:24:47
If Berra leaves us, I'm not going to be bothered because I don't rate him. I'm not confident when he has the ball at his feet, not confident when he's tackling.

If Wolves up their offer, I'd accept it.
39

Optimus Prime,

Cybertron 10/06/2008 12:25:11
#40

You really are a deluded fool, clear off and read the evening times.
40

Super Ally WATP,

10/06/2008 12:25:21
And no, i dont want my players playing for Scotland, and i dont want us to take away ticket allocations for Celtic and Dundee Utd, why should our players please scum bags like yous when all you do is criticise them? it dosent work 2 ways, if i had my way none of the rangers scots' would play in the WC campaign in protest to our treatment, frankly though thats a differnt story altogether though, especially since we actually have scots worthy of a call up.
41

Matty boy,

10/06/2008 12:25:31
#35

its a shame all the players your lot have brought through haven't been able to cut it at the business end of the season, or your more experienced players for that matter.

Honeymoon period is over for walter and co. The other half of the ugly sisters will make it 4 in a row next season i'm pretty sure
42

eric,

lothian 10/06/2008 12:25:44
most folks in west coast look at buying from an edinburgh club much like they would from st mirren etc no offence.
43

RangersThroughAndThrough,

Scotland 10/06/2008 12:25:50
All references to Sir David Murray in regards to transfer dealings are totally wide of the mark - Martin Bain handles that part of the business.

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Super Ally WATP,

10/06/2008 12:27:34
Our U20's dont play for our first team because they havent proven themselve, guys like John Fleck who broke the record of youngest ever scottish cup champion, along with your steven lennons one day WILL play for us, however it wont happen until we have a stable squad, and most likely will be loaned out for experience like charlie adam.
45

Newcastle Jambo,

10/06/2008 12:27:40
# 7 "Why we need to sell him i dont know he gets better and better surely worth keeping another season"

Who is "we"? Hearts are Vladamir Romanov's personal plaything. It seems that all his talk of unlimited transfer budgets, winning the SPL etc etc was a very obvious smokescreen to hide is real objective of asset stripping.

Of the players his people have identified and signed only Velicka has brought in any dosh and surprise surprise, that money didn't go to "Hearts" at all.

So far he's sold off Gordon and Hartley who were there for years before him, Bednar and Pospisl who Burley signed before he owned the club outright and now it seems clear Berra, another youth team product is next. Total income around £14m-£15m. Family jewels? All gone.

Any money spent by Romanov has been largely on ill-advised flops who despite their obvious lack of ability are played in "his" team to somehow boost their sales value - sheer folly on many levels. The only quality signing I can see has been Kingston.

The rest of the expenditure on hugely inflated wages is designed to boost the sales value of players while racking up a tidy profit for his private bank by increase Hearts debt to ridiculous levels.

Surely this is recognised by all by now? Surely.
46

Jamboy,

Edinburgh 10/06/2008 12:27:41
What a load of rubbish.

Seriously that little judas bar-steward Smith has quite clearly asked Murray to table an offer for Berra in the hope that he will be a childhood scum fan and therefor push for a move.

Rangers are a cheap and nasty little excuse for a club and their penny-pinching is a scandal... When was the last time rangers paid a decent or fair amount of cash for any player coming from a Scottish club?... Seriously?...

Boyd was so embarassed by the contemptuous fee paid to Killie that he waived away his own signing bonus and donated it to Killie's youth system.

Ritchie, Miller, Gow, Broadfoot, Boyd, Naismith, Webster, Thompson (One off), Whittaker...

The smug scum use the scotland set up as some kind of recruiting project for sounding out young Scotland internationals about their willingness to sign for Rangers and then unsettle the players at their leisure.

I am personaly glad that there is so much money down south now as it is great to see the penny pinching vermin scrambling around trying put a bid together through a clenched fist and getting blown away by the likes of wolves.

Berra, if as McKay has said publicaly on a couple of occassions you want to move from Scotland to have a tilt at the Premiership or a promotion campaign then fair enough but if you suddenly change your tune and start talking up a move to Rangers then regardless of if you claim to be a Hearts supportor or not you will be a turn coat and someone who cheated your supposed boyhood heroes.
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huggs,

10/06/2008 12:27:41
#40 Why lie Hundreds of saltires i counted one
Union Jacks impossible to count
As far i am concerned your mostly scumbags who proved that in Manchester while disgracing Scottish football
You want to be English and you put up a good pretence down there
Why you even on a Hearts thread need to go have to work keep flying the Union Jack Trumpet

HHGH
48

Optimus Prime,

Cybertron 10/06/2008 12:28:27
#46

But he handled the agreement between Rangers and JJB Sports who are funnily enough owned by Wigan Chairman Dave Whelan....see what i'm getting at sunshine.
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huggs,

10/06/2008 12:29:48
#48 We as in Hearts supporters
So are you saying he shpuldnt have sold Gordon ?
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Super Ally WATP,

10/06/2008 12:30:00
Boyd went for £500,000 because he had 4 months left on his contract you t!t
51

Scooby doo,

10/06/2008 12:31:17
QUESTION

What is happening to Hearts?

ANSWER

Same as happened at Third lanark & Gretna!!
52

Jamboy,

Edinburgh 10/06/2008 12:32:01
#40

Blatant lie and you know it. I saw one saltire in the stadium and one on a battered weegie.

I believe you do feel Scottish but to lie and claim that most Rangers fans don't claim to be Brittish and call their own country men 'Jocks' is scandalous... you are a sad individuall if you make excuses for people who are clearly scum just because they support the same football team as you.
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Optimus Prime,

Cybertron 10/06/2008 12:32:29
#54

Cock
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Super Ally WATP,

10/06/2008 12:32:45
dead on #54, i know it, celtic know it, hibs know, scottish football knows it, and guess what? we have NO sympathy.

Stick your club where you lot let romanov go up 2 years ago, we're taking your best players, (moronic hahahaha)
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GrahamL,

10/06/2008 12:34:20
By christ, this threads gone downhill faster than usual hasn't it?

Til tomorrow then...
56

The best-Rangers,

10/06/2008 12:34:57
Jambo's, smell yer maw !
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Super Ally WATP,

10/06/2008 12:35:22
#55, were you in Manchester? no? so how do you possibly know how many saltires there were?.

I was there, in the flesh, and am telling you i saw hundreds of saltires, if you can prove me wrong and also be the only jambo to follow rangers to manchester, then i will give you credit, til then, YOU are a disgrace, and border like disgusting with a touch of Anglophobia.
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10/06/2008 12:36:29
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Scooby doo,

10/06/2008 12:36:40
Berra will one day captain scotland...

IF HE MOVES ON TO A BETTER CLUB...

I'm a HIBBY by the way...


GGTTH...
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Super Ally WATP,

10/06/2008 12:37:44
lol its a bit far fetched to say he'll captain scotland, i personally think McManus and Fletcher will be captains for the next 20 years at least.
61

Scooby doo,

10/06/2008 12:38:21
Friendly against hull city ah well...
What else do you expect...
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Chas Niceass,

10/06/2008 12:38:48
Seems Rangers are on the wind up the day after securing Webster.
What a childish gesture, typical of the arrogance of this unacceptable "institution".
I still cant stop laughing of how they tried to fix their own fixture list and how it all came back to haunt them, but it wasn't their fault of course, it was the SPLs for bending over backwards to them in the 1st place last Nov/Dec.
What a horrible club to support, I'm not sure of how anyone with any decency can.

Week 3 AIDY IN AIDY IN.

Bring on the Tigers!
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Indie Rep Kid,

10/06/2008 12:39:57
#62 We know you're a hibby - that's why you're on the Jambo story
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The Bee,

10/06/2008 12:41:06
Lack of ambition shown by Berra if he plumps for Wolves. There's no guarantee that they'll ever get out of that division. Didn't exactly do wonders for Cameron's career either, did it?
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Super Ally WATP,

10/06/2008 12:41:13
I personally had no idea we signed weby up til5 minutes ago, really im here because im loving how Rangers are just being total fennies to you, and giving back what you gave to us in our season of struggle in 2005.

No sympathy, and loving it, keep in coming my 'burger friends!

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I.J,

The Diggers 10/06/2008 12:41:18
#54 - Aw naw! Seriously? Are we going bust AGAIN?!! I thought after we went bust for the 4 trillionth time last week that it would all be over. Aw well. Any news on when we are due to go bust again after this one? Any chance it could maybe be next Friday, cause I'm on holiday that day and I'd be able to go down to Tynie to mourn.
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Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 10/06/2008 12:41:27
#41. I agree, if the offer gets to £2m or more from Wolves I'd be happy to see him go. Berra should never have been made captain, he doesn't have the confidence, seems very weak in the air and his distribution is appalling. To me it always looked like Karipidis and Zaliukas have carried Berra for the last couple of seasons.

Let's see how McGowan or Rapnik gets on beside Karipidis.
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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 10/06/2008 12:43:45
#46

Martin ("Rangers fans are not bigots, it's all an illusion- listen to the PR guru I've hired") Bain is another lying appologist little creep who thinks that by stroking Keith Jackson's knapper while receiving his homage he is able to convince everyone that what they can clearly see with their own eyes is not actually happening... Allegedly!

Everytime I see or hear that arrogant little weasel on a football phone in or in a Glasgow paper i want to puke.

Deny what ever you like you sycophantic little stoat bain but we saw your proud, loyal and well behaved shock-troops in manchester due to your innability to control the British media and no-one was surprised appart from Ewan Cameron it would seem who for weeks years before had been toadying away to you and your minions telling us all how sectarianism in rangers is a thing of the past while laying into the real supporters of his own club as Vlad sheep and blind followers who could not see what was rotten at hearts.

If you want to get ahead in the Scottish media it is essential that you have the backing of the Celtic union or get busy polishing the brass knob at the end of the union jack.

Cameron is a sell out and Smith is even worse because he actually sold out his entire country for that sectarian, scum bag rabble.

SCOTLAND'S DISGRACE!!!

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Paranoid John from Midlothian,

10/06/2008 12:43:57
Time Campbell Ogilvie came out and told us what is going on at the club. Is this farce doing much for his excellent reputation? The paying customer needs to know what is going on. Nobody would walk into a shop and handover £400 without knowing what they were going to get for their money would they? That's how it feels at Hearts just now. 2 years ago a small fillet steak, last year an undercooked sirloin...next season...mince? Let us know please...you have my money!!! (my choice)
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Hearts00,

10/06/2008 12:44:05
What is going on?

Yes I understand that Vlad foolishly signed far too many players and paid them far too much money. Why he did that and the fact they were for the most part awful is a shocker. Nonetheless, I understand the need to get the wage bill down.

What I don't understand is why we feel the need to sell Berra and Velicka (who surely would not be demanding massive wages) and yet want to keep the likes of Pinilla and Karipidis. Utter nonsense.

We are hurtling towards pre season with no manager, no plan and no quality. If Berra goes we are trully screwed at the back and a relegation battle is unquestionable as things stand.

I too have not renewed my season ticket and think I am now unlikely to get one as I can see that things are panning out for the worst. What disappoints me is that 9000 have renewed, either this is more lies from the club or foolishness on the part of many fans.
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Indie Rep Kid,

10/06/2008 12:46:01
#71 "To me it always looked like Karipidis and ZALIUKAS have carried Berra for the last couple of seasons."

I'm sorry, but that is codswallop! Zal has been a mare for most of this season and is clearly not interested.

We simply cannot afford to let Berra go without signing an adequate replacement.
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Super Ally WATP,

10/06/2008 12:47:24
#73, at least we HAVE a CO who speaks out and gives his opinions and actually trys his hardest in this harsh football world.

Correct our club has problems, much like your fenebahce, liverpool and chelsea's, does that have any bearing on the football pitch achivments? no, it dosent... and why is that? because we appointed a manager who loves the club, If Hearts fans even knew what consistancy looked like, you wouldnt be getting mauled 4-0 by dundee utd, or beattered by st mirren at home, but thats the morale of the story isnt it?.

Big team - Big things.

Wee team - wee things

+1 to the rangers ePeen.
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The Hallucinist,

10/06/2008 12:48:28
#59 the best-rangers

We're more likely to smell your maw first!! She won't have seen a bar of soap for a long time!!
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Super Ally WATP,

10/06/2008 12:49:51
#79 is that the typical glasgow sterotype starting from the east end of scotland?

To think they call US scotlands shame, disgracefull and borderline racists.
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Bilbo Baggins,

Underhill 10/06/2008 12:49:54
Ally – just because you wannabie English rodents are happy to be enslaved, DO NOT even try to suggest that the rest of Scotland does.

Keep singing your songs about your Queen if it keeps you happy. The rest of this nation simply doesn’t care.
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aresmortal,

Granton 10/06/2008 12:51:33
what differance does it make if we have a manager or not...
if someone offers 2 mil for berra. take it.. we dont need to say were not selling untill we have a manager..
if berra wants to go then romanov always stated he wouldnt stand in their way and 2 mill isnt bad money for someone who is ok.
a manager will come when romanov can get one. untill then i will support my team as normal and any decision the ideots upstairs make, as thats what i am a supporter nothing more, nothing less. weather frail is incharge or some world class manager, its our job to cheer the players that play for hearts. not moan and pretend we are all playing football manager 2008 and decide who should and shouldnt be sold and how the club should be run.
and for those who arnt renewing your season tickets...im sure hearts havent been affected. their are plenty of supporters who are loyal and have reniewed and i know of a few people who have bought for the first time. so your doing nothing but cutting your nose off to spite your face. your not helping hearts. and in turn arnt supporting hearts. you may as well B*gger off to support hibs for all your troubles.
79

The Hallucinist,

10/06/2008 12:53:30
Don't know why the rankyers fuds are on this thread spouting p1sh!!

Even under Gordon Strachan, Celtic play much better football than rankyers awful boring style!! Celtic are a better and bigger club and deserved to win the SPL. Football won!!
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Ally,

London 10/06/2008 12:53:33
#49 (and others)

For a country which gave the country Adam Smith, there aren't many around with a basic grasp of supply and demand, are there?

If Rangers or Celtic offer a club money for a player and they accept it, fine. If they reject it, they have the option of upping the bid or losing the player. Not a difficult concept to comprehend, I'd have thought. Any city of 400,000 people trying to accommodate 2 top-division football teams is going to find that they're selling clubs - there simply isn't the support to make them anything else in today's market; if you've got 15-20,000 people coming in the door every two weeks you're going to lose out to clubs with 50-60,000 coming in the door (even before we get onto Champions League money). Not difficult to understand.

In the last couple of years the OF have gradually put more money into the Scottish game than they have for many, many years - Broadfoot, Whittaker, Boyd, Thompson, Brown, Hartley...I'm sure there are many more that I've missed. Did the selling clubs always get what they wanted? Undoubtedly no, but that's the way it works when you're selling your house, your car or your goalkeeper. What happens between the OF and the rest of Scotland is just a smaller version of what happens between Scottish clubs and English ones - no-one could resist £9m for Hutton or Gordon and I'm (sadly) completely sure that Rangers wouldn't knock back offers of >£6m for McGregor or Cuellar. Similarly, I'd expect Celtic to shore up the biscuit tin if anyone comes in for Boruc.

It's economics. Live with it.
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Super Ally WATP,

10/06/2008 12:53:38
#81 i am a non religious Rangers fan with family from the northern tip of Ireland, and family who live in Blackburn, unlike many like yourself whi hold silly grudges over our neighbours, we dont. We fly Union Jacks as well as saltires, much because we are proud of our heritage, and wether or not you like it, this country IS British, and is run by OUR queen.

If you want to be a racist, Anglophobian racist toward England, then so be it, just dont come on here thinking your all innocent and spill that nonsense, because we all know what you are like.
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We love fitba,

google 10/06/2008 12:54:35
#48 Newcastle Jambo

Again, an excellent post. Good luck in your continuing campaign to make your fellow Jambos wake up and smell the coffee.

I fear you're doomed to failure, however.
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Newcastle Jambo,

10/06/2008 12:54:59
#61 No vic, as you know, Burley was the last manager that the club had. In the good old days, the manager would identify the players to be signed and would select the team. Since Burley's sacking neither of these fundamental principles apply at Hearts.

I just raised the point in #48 above about where the £14m of assests that Romanov has cashed in came from - it wasn't from asstes brought in by his own people who now run the club, it was the from the assets that he inherited in October 2005 when he bought 80% of the shares. Prior to that date he was a minor shareholder whose bank had taken over the club's debt. Now he's cashed in or is about to cash in on anythhing that was of any value when he arrived with the exception of Tynecastle (the only good thing he's done so far is keep the team at Tynecastle, although the proposed redevlopment is unachievable pie in the sky in my view).
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I.J,

The Diggers 10/06/2008 12:55:31
#83 - and what of those who have not renewed in protest, but will pay at the gate each match? Where do they stand in your "I'm the bestest Hearts fan in the world.......ever!" opinion?
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Voice of the mysterons,

Mars 10/06/2008 12:55:42
Sorry to be a pedant but will you all stop calling the Union Flag the Union Jack. I'm surprised all the loyalists haven't pointed this out yet, you'd think they'd know too.
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dale8807,

10/06/2008 12:55:42
i suppose rangers need all the defenders they can get as next season they will have 9 defenders and a lone striker on and 43 what scottish rangers players deserve a call up to the scotland sqaud ferguson is p1sh thompson is p1sh aswell if he played for anyother team he would spend most of the season suspended cause of his dirty challenges and yous showed how great yous were against zenit then blame everyone else cause your manager and team is sh!te
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Bilbo Baggins,

Underhill 10/06/2008 12:56:10
#86 No, this country is SCOTTISH first and foremost.

She is your queen, not mine - I didn't vote for her.

Or any of the other Germans living in the palace for that matter.
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The Hallucinist,

10/06/2008 12:57:02
#86 I watched a group of rangers fans booing the scottish rugby team during the 6 nations!! Who's racist??
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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 10/06/2008 12:57:30
Super Ally you call me an anglophobe and yet i have English family, you call me a borderline racist and yet i have an asian girlfriend, friends who are catholic, portuguese, Greek, German and weegies...

It is not everyone else that is wrong in seeing Rangers as scum and vermin it is just the blinkered appologists like yourself and cameron.

your team are scum and as was proven by the free press down in Manchester so are your fans... Or do nazi salutes not count?

Go and infest another thread you lying little weasel before you clear the room in typical blunose fashion...

"Awrite? Ows it Gaun? Where yr from? Whit are ye oan? Whae dae ye support?".. zzzzzzzzzzzz
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Newcastle Jambo,

10/06/2008 12:57:43
#87 and #88 many thanks. I do try to point out the inconvenient truths, not because I'm a "hobo" in disguise but because I am bitter about the fact that my club has been stolen from me and I won't just roll over to a tyrant.
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Super Ally WATP,

10/06/2008 12:58:34
95, this country IS british per- Act of Union Agreement, signed by Scotland and England.

Secondly, you dont "vote" for a queen you idiot.
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Super Ally WATP,

10/06/2008 13:00:19
whoeer said malofeev wa coming home - lol genius, play calum elliot up fornt please, we have dancing queen ready for it hahahaha.
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Bilbo Baggins,

Underhill 10/06/2008 13:01:29
Exactly - I didn't vote for her so I do not recognise her as my leader. Democracy.

BTW - you should learn what the term 'racist' is before you start spouting it at people you fool.
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The Hallucinist,

10/06/2008 13:01:33
#94 Lol That's why it was so good watch Celtic lift the SPL. rankyers trying to defend their way to the SPL title - what style they have.

Football won!!
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Jambo4ever,

****PLEASE SIGN, THIS IS URGENT!*** 10/06/2008 13:02:33
Right, let's try and get this sorted!

Can all Jambo's that want to try and create a demonstration please sign here, and we can arrange a date and time................

I believe this has not been done in a while, and will let Romanov know the discontent that surrounds the club at the moment.
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itsnomarooned,

10/06/2008 13:03:40
Trying to ignore some of the more bizarre posts ...... the bit I found interesting about the article was the 5th paragraph where Rangers doubt Webster's long-term fitness. Is this correct? In that case why conclude the deal? If this is the case I can't help laughing up my sleeve a bit at both Rangers and Webster (though perhaps it's a bit unfair on the player if his future earnings are affected).
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dale8807,

10/06/2008 13:04:32
105 can we not just all put money in a pot and get romanov killed along with superally
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Super Ally WATP,

10/06/2008 13:04:52
103 - you DO vote for a government, though, and wether you accept it or not, that government is headed by, yes you guessed it... the queen.

If you dont like it, then go live somewhere else, if you dont, then weesht cos your losing a battle you simply cant win with resources. Pure ownage.

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Lenny,

10/06/2008 13:05:56
Catholic Jambo

Serious question bud, what will you do if the new manager you are hoping for doesnt happen. I only ask as you seem to see be able to see the positive in all things Hearts. No shame in that, I'm just curious what it will take for you to change your views.
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Super Ally WATP,

10/06/2008 13:06:25
Also, Web sters long term fitness is doubtfull,m hence why we got him for free, if he does gain fitness though we've gained a full scotland internationalist and a decent centre back.
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Roscoe P Coltrane,

10/06/2008 13:06:26
#80 They do, because you are.

And if you bothered reading any media from outwith Scotland (be that England, France, Italy, Australia, whatever) you'd see that to be true.

The only place in the world where Rangers are not seen as unmitigated scumbags (from the behaviour of their supporters to the behaviour of their management to the way the officials are in their pockets to the way the media and the governing bodies are also in their pockets) is in Scotland, because they pretty much control the media in Scotland.

If the only paper you ever read is, for example, the Daily Retard, then you will NEVER see anything even approaching negative about Rangers. They're still denying that there was anything wrong with the behaviour of a substantial minority of fans that went to Manchester.

Oh, and if there were so many saltires in Manchester, how come during 120 minutes of mind-numbingly dull football where there was nothing to watch except the crowd of primates I only saw one on the TV coverage?

Denial is not just de river in de north of Africa.
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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 10/06/2008 13:06:32
Not my queen and I am not British.

Act of Union was signed after the sabbotage by the english of our admittedly ill-advised attempts at starting our own international empire of colonies, there were riots on the streets of edinburgh as reported by the ancient version of this very newspaper and recently printed anew as an anniversary when the act was signed and as it was so unpopular the shilling taking scum who signed it had to be sheaparded out the back entrance in fear of their own lives.

Call yourself what you want but I am and always will be Scottish, noe pedantics will ever convince me otherwise.

I don't welcome dominion and laugh at the fools who think by there doing so they will somehow curry favour with their keepers.

Scotland's disgrace!!
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dale8807,

10/06/2008 13:07:17
superally the queen is a waste of money like most of the rangers squad
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busbyfh,

10/06/2008 13:08:18
Allan Maclaren - poached
Paul Ritchie - poached
Andy Webster - poached
Christophe Berra - poached ???????????????????
All centre halves underhandidly "snaffled" by the detestable knuckledraggers from Goven.
Yet another reason to dislike this sectarian bunch of cretins , with a venom second to none.

Each and every time these Weegies offer far less than the going selling price but upset our players with promises of great salary increases. Enough to make the players whine and whinge until they get out the door.

Note the other thing the players that moved out west have in common ?.........All had careers totally ruined by sitting on the bench and injury - KARMA ? for their greed and underhand ways of leaving Tynie ?

Berra will NOT go down the same route - He seems a different breed. Wolves yes - Scum from Govan - NO