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Published Date: 20 April 2009
PRIVATE security guards are set to be hired to patrol some of the Edinburgh's most popular parks following a spate of vandal attacks – at a cost of thousands to the taxpayer.
City leaders have been forced to consider the move after vandalism at both Princes Street Gardens and Saughton Park over the last year.

The patrols – which would cost around £4500 a month – are only likely to be in place during the lighter months of the year.

The bulk of problems in both parks have come in the early evening, when park wardens are locking up, or overnight when nobody is around.

Council chiefs today lifted the lid on the catalogue of problems at both parks in the last 12 months.

They include:

• A council worker being verbally abused after confronting youths vandalising Saughton's Rose Gardens.

• Teenagers caught on the roof of out-buildings at Saughton Park ripping off tiles.

• Council vehicles being repeatedly vandalised at Saughton Park.

• Memorial benches being tipped down the slope at Princes Street Gardens, along with chairs and other debris being thrown in the Ross Fountain.

Council chiefs say the damage has cost them thousands of pounds – with the damage to Saughton Rose Gardens costing £2000 alone. This has forced them to consider employing private security firms.

A fireraising attack on the Saughton Park play area in 2007 caused around £50,000 worth of damage.

Currently, it is up to the council's park wardens to lock up and reopen both parks.

Opposition politicians today described the new security move as a "sad indictment of our society".

Gordon Buchan, the council Conservative group's culture and leisure spokesman, said: "The council are right to consider this, especially if you consider the cost of replacing a lot of the equipment which has been damaged by these attacks.

"But it is a crying shame, and a really sad indictment of our society, if we are reduced to having security guards patrolling our parks."

CCTV cameras are to be installed in Saughton Park later this year when work begins on a £750,000 new skate park.

The scheme was approved earlier this year, bringing a ten-year search for a suitable site for Edinburgh's first major public skate park to an end.

Some local concern about an increase in antisocial behaviour from the skate park was rejected by officials, who insist the CCTV and artificial lighting planned will help negate any problems.

In 2004, city leaders considered fitting CCTV cameras in Princes Street Gardens after several memorial benches were damaged and litter bins set on fire.

The city's environment leader, Councillor Robert Aldridge, said: "The safety of our parks staff is a priority – as, of course, is the public's continued enjoyment of Edinburgh's beautiful parks and greenspaces. Two parks have been affected by the mindless behaviour of a tiny minority and, in response, we are considering a number of cost-effective options to improve security."






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1

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 20/04/2009 11:58:52
Great idea,vandals have been a pest for years now in Princes Street Gardens lets hope this stops them.
2

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20/04/2009 12:06:32
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3

elayne,

20/04/2009 12:24:41
just take the vandals into the bushes and kick their a**es!!!
4

Pepper,

20/04/2009 12:31:42
Well done, nothing annoys me more than mindless vandalism.

#2 you have to remember that these overturned park benches are put there for a reason and as the article says the vast majority are memorials. How would you feel if something used to remember a family member was being constantly vandalised??
5

Enemy ninja kayaku foo ,

20/04/2009 12:36:52
I think the only sensible solution is for guards with machine guns to be installed in a series of watchtowers the length of the gardens.
6

Ecto,

20/04/2009 12:37:19
weren't these called parkies in the old days (jesus I'm getting old) The parky used to have a uniform and kicked our ar*es if we mis behaved, bring back the parky!
7

Glenda,

blah 20/04/2009 12:37:28
What a joke. How can you lock up Saughton Park? The huge gates at the entrance no longer exist and even my granny could get into all areas of that place at night - it's wide open.

Shame, because it's a lovely under-used resource.

The amount of work put into tending the rose garden area is phenomenal, yet how many people actually walk through it? Probably costs £200 per visitor. There should be a big re-think as to how the park is used and laid out. Transfer the roses to an area that's on view to more people and encourage local gardeners to get involved. How about a few garden allotments?

There's a large expanse of open grassy area at the front adjacent to Gorgie Road. It just lies there unused by anyone except a few dog owners taking their dogs 'walkies'.

In the summer it could be a venue for farmers markets, craft fairs, galas etc.

The only part that's properly utilised are the football playing field and the children's play-park.

If this area of ground was in New York City (like Central Park) it would be a hive of activity year round. Too bad it's in Edinburgh......
8

Pepper,

20/04/2009 12:37:48
#7

Likewise, neither would I. It certainly wouldn't be my choice but someone chose it so why these wee erses cannot respect property is beyond me!
9

Law Abider,

On my high horse 20/04/2009 12:45:39
Great idea - but as usual, the vandals would just get away with a caution at the very most. It's only going to work if the authorities get tougher with these brainless idiots.
10

Ecto,

20/04/2009 12:46:28
#12 Glenda for Lord Provost
11

MacKenzie,

Edinburgh 20/04/2009 13:03:46
Bring back the Parkie.
12

elayne,

20/04/2009 13:04:20
#6 too right!
#8 ill give you corporal punishment WITH a privet hedge if you want
13

simonp,

eh11 20/04/2009 13:07:20
will these just be rebranded environmental wardens? (we know how successful they have been)
14

nSyratzcGIaw,

20/04/2009 13:09:02
#18 What about some sweaty lager from your bottom?
15

r chee bold,

20/04/2009 13:09:59
But why a private security company, why not direct labour, who does the security for other council premises? I dont know I am just curious.
16

JT,

20/04/2009 13:12:52
What about the wanten vandalism that the council allowes each winter with the ice rink and fair?
17

corriander,

Edinburgh 20/04/2009 13:14:02
We already have a police force. We also have CCTV. What difference is it going to make employing guards ?
Until vandals and thugs are made to take responsibility for their behaviour and given some kind of punishment it won't make one blind bit of difference - other than put up the cost of the council tax ofcourse!
18

nSyratzcGIaw,

20/04/2009 13:14:56
#22 elayne's favourite - and she can easily brew it by a frisk walk up a set of stairs.
19

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

20/04/2009 13:20:01
Arm them with tasers.
20

Arrow,

edinburgh 20/04/2009 13:27:59
i prefer the Gestpo approach. if caught the first time smash them across the shins with a metal chain. it leaves a permanent mark (and it's sore) and if they a caught again they are shot. it worked in all the war stories. or is that to liberal and PC?
21

elayne,

20/04/2009 13:31:02
#25 nothing wrong with my a*se thank you very much,at least it doesnt sweat rancid guiness which i heard yours does!
22

nSyratzcGIaw,

20/04/2009 13:33:26
#29 You big fat lard bum sweats continually - sweaty lager.
23

nSyratzcGIaw,

20/04/2009 13:37:08
#31 and elayne's bottom lager!!
24

S Wilson,

1950's 20/04/2009 13:49:03
Bring back bobbies on the beat and also allow them to deal with the problem there and then. It used to work but in todays politically correct mad culture juvenile delinquents know their rights and take full advantage of it!
25

Enemy ninja kayaku foo ,

20/04/2009 14:00:05
NWA wrote a song about their local police force.
26

S Wilson,

20/04/2009 14:04:58
#34 True. The only thing that'll remove them from their squad cars these days is a visit to subway/pie shop!
27

Enemy ninja kayaku foo ,

20/04/2009 15:06:30
37

Thats what got me banned last time
28

Finbarr Saunders,

20/04/2009 15:19:23
They should let a few big, nasty guard dogs wander freely about the parks after dark.

That would keep the neds out!
29

nSyratzcGIaw,

20/04/2009 15:19:59
#38 Foo

How was din dins on Friday night? Good night with your lover?
30

Enemy ninja kayaku foo ,

20/04/2009 15:39:31
I choked on a piece of beef.
31

Snails dont like curry and chips,

Edinburgh 20/04/2009 15:43:23
I remember some nutter wanting to bring back bears and wolves to the forests of Scotland - just heighten the fences at the parks a bit and chuck a few of these in for the night patrols - bet there wouldn't be too many benches turned over by the neds - the benches might get eaten by the bears right enough.
32

calum,

20/04/2009 16:33:08
It wasn't that long ago that you used to see police officers patrolling the streets and public areas in Central Edinburgh, including the Gardens. Where have they all gone? Diversity training? Scottish Parliament? Piping Eric Milligan all over Paris? You pays your money.....
33

nSyratzcGIaw,

20/04/2009 16:34:17
#41 Foo

Did you have too much length in your mouth?
34

nSyratzcGIaw,

20/04/2009 16:44:44
Everyone - Foo was choking on a length of beef on Friday night.
35

nSyratzcGIaw,

20/04/2009 16:49:09
Foo - did you spit or swallow?
36

Enemy ninja kayaku foo ,

20/04/2009 16:49:26
Why are you so excited about me choking on a piece of beef?


37

nSyratzcGIaw,

20/04/2009 16:51:50
#47 I'm not. Where you sucking or chewing?
38

Enemy ninja kayaku foo ,

20/04/2009 16:53:16
47

What sort of person sucks a steak pie?

Chewing, of course.
39

nSyratzcGIaw,

20/04/2009 16:56:05
#49 Foo

You might have been sucking the beef and that is why you choked. Did you spit or swallow after choking?
40

Enemy ninja kayaku foo ,

20/04/2009 17:00:00
I choked because I laughed whilst chewing. Admittedly it could have been a bit of pastry. After a few back slaps things sorted themselves out.

Thanks for all the concern, but you can STFU about it now.
41

nSyratzcGIaw,

20/04/2009 17:02:06
#51 Did you swallow in the end?
42

im brian and so is my wife,

edinburgh 20/04/2009 19:04:18
whilst out at inverleith pond on sunday,i got talking to the guy from the RSPB ,and he was telling me about ,the little thugs,who have stolen the swans eggs
LBP have the little cretins on video but cant do anything about it
why not fine the parents £10,000 per egg,that might scare the life out of them,but then again thye could quote their human rights chapter and verse
43

elayne,

20/04/2009 20:21:09
#30 my butt is just fine,lager free and non sweaty!i seriously am worried though,you seem to have an unhealthy obsession with my azz,,i dont know whether to feel flattered or very afraid(most likely the latter)my butt has not attracted so much attention since i wore denim shorts last summer!!!
44

The real dracula,

20/04/2009 21:54:41
To the folk who think the polis should be protecting parks ,,,,,get a wee grip ,,,,,,,have you seen the amount of far more serious crimes , assaults , public affray , violence , drunken tubes etc they have to deal with and not just at the weekend .

Do you really think the polis have nothing better to do. I know a lot of you think they are lazy I say they are not no way. Their the same as every other public service too many 'clients' to deal with and not enough of them to deal with it ,,,,,,,not the polce on the ground's fault its the governments fault.
45

Mark Renton,

Edinburgh 20/04/2009 22:40:39
What a brilliant idea, spend 4500 Pounds per month to try and prevent 100 Pounds per month of damage. Who is mindless.... The vandals or the The Council? They all deserve a damn good thrashing.
46

Bob1,

21/04/2009 00:50:49
i like to put a bit of thought into my vandalism!
47

ouime,

edinburgh 21/04/2009 10:41:00
if it costs £4500 a month for guards to save £2000 worth of damage, is this money well spent?

 

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