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13 post offices on hit list



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Published Date: 14 August 2008
A TOTAL of 13 post offices are facing the axe in Edinburgh, the Evening News can reveal today.
The hit list has been leaked to the News ahead of an official announcement next week.

Two more branches face being shut in Midlothian as part of the national closure programme.

The news has dismayed local campaigners, who say the elderly and disabled will be hardest hit. Several thousand people have signed petitions saying they are vital to their communities.

The post offices set for closure include Cramond, Dalmeny, Gorgie Road, Shandon Place, Warrendar Park, Elm Row, Goldenacre and Pilrig Toll. Branches in Bonnyrigg and Lasswade also face the axe, while others in West and East Lothian have yet to be named.

The Royal Mail is set to hold a six-week consultation on the move, with the closures set to happen by the end of the year.

Shirley Anne Somerville, the SNP MSP for the Lothians, said the six-week consultation was a "sham", and said she had received nearly 600 letters from residents.

"Post offices would be better used if the Government had not taken services away from them. But they are still absolutely crucial to certain parts of our communities, such as the elderly, young families and small businesses."

The UK Government voted to close 2500 branches nationwide because new technology and changing lifestyles mean people are visiting post offices less. Post Office Ltd say they have considered the size of branches, number of transactions and proximity to other branches in drawing up their closure list.

But local campaigners have vowed to fight. More than 20 branches have already closed in Edinburgh since 2001.

Ian Mowat, the chairman of the New Town and Broughton Community Council, said they were very concerned about the future of Elm Row Post Office. "We would certainly argue that there is a case for keeping it open," he said. "

This is going to have a considerable impact on people in Broughton."

Bill Scholes, the chairman of Cramond Community Council, added: "It's regretful that Cramond Post Office is going to close, although we're pleased that the shop will continue."

Iain McGill, the Conservative candidate for Edinburgh North and Leith, collected around 1000 signatures on a petition calling for post offices to be saved.

He said: "We're particularly concerned about Elm Row, as the next nearest one is in the St James Centre which is set for redevelopment. Goldenacre and Pilrig Toll are also very well used, and elderly people will be hard hit if they close."

Lib Dems in Edinburgh South have also launched a campaign to save Warrender Park Post Office.

A Post Office Ltd spokeswoman said: "The Government has laid down minimum access criteria which Post Office Ltd must work to when proposing any branch for closure. Our aim is to continue to provide essential services and support retail businesses and the local economy."


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  • Last Updated: 14 August 2008 2:57 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Midlothian
 
1

alex paterson,

edinburgh 14/08/2008 12:06:16
This is what happens when POs are put into corner shops etc,but the corner shop could be miles away for some people.
2

capy,

embra 14/08/2008 12:38:19
Anybody asked Lord Foulkes for his view on PO closures. He is not normaly shy in backing the government.
3

Maisie from Morningside,

14/08/2008 13:11:59
It's annoying that now the post office wants to charge different amounts for different sized envelopes which means you HAVE to go to the post office ,then they close them!
My nearest post office is 4 bus stops away. Why should I pay £2.20 in bus fares just to check postal charges??
4

Gerry McGarvey,

Shandon, Edinburgh 14/08/2008 13:36:48
I have been, and am again appalled by the behaviour of Royal Mail in its policy of Post Office closures. In an age of Customer Service and Quality Assurance, I see neither displayed as they arrogantly tread all over those who require this service most; namely the aged and infirm. FIGHT THE CLOSURES!
5

Ghengis McCann,

Edinburgh 14/08/2008 16:41:42
"new technology and changing lifestyles mean people are visiting post offices less"

And there you have it. If all those signing petitions to keep Post Offices open actually shopped there, the queues would be out the door. The reality is that they don't, so taxpayers are expected to subsidise a loss making business.

Practically all the services for which Post Offices used to have a monopoly can now be got online, from banks or from other shops, often cheaper. And that goes for the aged and infirm as well.

Can't remember all those people squealing now about PO closures and the like out in the streets protesting when the Tories were flogging off all the public utilities, deregulating the buses etc back in the 80s. Quite happy to let the market rule back then.

Perfectly easy way to keep POs open - just spend enough money there often enough to given the owners a livelihood.
6

Angus R,

14/08/2008 16:45:47
Well Maisie just get one of the size guides and check your envelope against it and you wont have to - it's no rocket science. As #5 pointed out its because almost all the services the post office offer can be done online or elsewhere now!
7

Gerry McGarvey,

14/08/2008 17:12:18
Ghengis out to avoid making assumptions about 1) The effectiveness of popular "demonstration" (Who said anything about petitions? A consultation process will soon be underway.) 2) The activism of those "squealers" and what issues they may have previously campaigned on, regardless of whatever government or local authority is proposing it. (Ghengis just doesn't nor can know.) Finally, 3) Assuming that electronic access, banking or any other means is any easier. And that goes for the aged and infirm as well!

"New technology and changing lifestyles does not mean all people are visiting Post Offices less."

In my experience of the local post offfice, queues are invariably long, thus suggesting that whoever has identified at least one of these for closure, has been somewhat remiss in their research.
8

Leila,

Edinburgh 14/08/2008 17:22:03
#5 "Practically all the services for which Post Offices used to have a monopoly can now be got online, from banks or from other shops, often cheaper. And that goes for the aged and infirm as well."

What about the postal service - surely the main purpose of Post Offices? Are we not to post parcels any more?
9

StuartyBum,

Up the road 14/08/2008 18:03:20
#3, you could always walk.
10

Jambo 3,

EDINBURGH 14/08/2008 18:23:33
#3 Or wait until you are over 60 and get for free!
Probably still beat the mail even if you are only 50
11

The Batboy,

14/08/2008 18:40:05
Royal Mail - higher charges - lesser service!
12

Regular visitor,

Edinburgh 14/08/2008 19:19:45
my paranoia suggests a sinister ploy to kill off those no longer economically active and feeble, getting them to walk miles in the wet and cold for provisions, hastening a speedier despatch, thus saving on not only post office wages but pensions and allowances too. They dont want any cash transactions, they want to create layers of job creation cyphering transactions, if I want to draw $10 from the building society I have frequented for 28 yrs a credit reference agency is consulted online (just routine!)to see if I have moved, thus creating more information to sell. Dont trust any of them.
13

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

14/08/2008 19:27:54
where are all the old folk going to hang about now ?
14

Climate change is a fraud,

14/08/2008 21:11:11
People, the real reason for Post Office closures. What politicians don't want you to know.

The real cost of the European Union...

Most people think that the European Union is an expensive waste of space. But it’s much worse than that. EU meddling in all aspects of our national life is now having a direct, and devastating effect on people’s daily lives. Nowhere is this more apparent that in the closure of the small Post Offices that are often a vital part of local communities. According to Government report published in April 2008, nearly half of all neighbourhoods have lost key amenities, such as GP surgeries, local buses and post offices in the past four years alone – leading to what the report freely describes as “the slow death of community life”. What isn’t admitted to is why this is happening. It is because our politicians have handed over control to the bunglers and bureaucrats in Brussels...


The way we were

For decades, until the late 1990s, the Royal Mail was an efficient, profitable monopoly providing the finest postal service in the world as well as being an important element in the structure of British life. Everyone, regardless of whether they lived in an inner city, a rural area, or a Scottish island, was charged the same postal rates because it was accepted that there would be some areas that were serviced at a loss whilst others are served at a profit. If postal rates were set wisely to balance out the differences then Royal Mail would make a profit.

Then Brussels got in on the act…

One of the European Union’s key objectives is to impose
competition throughout the whole of its territory regardless of postoffice.indd 2 5/6/08 11:31:54 whether or not a national monopoly is beneficial to the local community. EU Directive 97/67/EC ‘Privatization of Postal Services’, issued on 15 December 1997, began the introduction of an EU-wide postal service and immediately reduced the Royal Mail’s monopoly to mail weighing less than 350 grammes. T
15

Climate change is a fraud,

14/08/2008 21:11:39
http://www.eurofaq.freeuk.com/leaflets/postoffice.pdf
16

Logie Almond,

14/08/2008 21:45:37
To enter a post office is like going back in atime warp to the 1950s. They are dingy, depressing places with long queues and surly unhelpful staff. Close the lot and find other ways of delivering the services. I wonder how many of those moaning about this pay their car tax, council tax, energy bills, etc by direct debit or online.
17

A. Puschkin,

Edinburgh 14/08/2008 21:49:40

I find this comment very interesting...

"...One of the European Union’s key objectives is to impose competition throughout the whole of its territory "

YET in France and Germany I think... their railways are subsidised!

One rule for them and another for us?

18

ThinkSmart,

edinburgh 15/08/2008 01:22:26
PO are getting thin on the ground. Think of the pounds, carbon emissions that will be used getting to your nearest one, where ever that would/will be.

This will not help people to stop using there cars, just another reason why ones needed.

The PO at the Gyle shut down and the next nearest ones miles away.
19

Mr Fuzzy,

Edinburgh 15/08/2008 03:14:13
#8
You can always contact a courier service online, and arrange for them to pick up and deliver your parcel.

Maybe if they placed post offices in convenient locations such as business parks, shopping malls or university campuses, they would be used more often. Usually they are located on high streets open during office hours. Hardly accessible when you are working all day.
20

Tomdonald,

15/08/2008 06:23:10
Just like any other shop the PO is a business. If it can't make a profit it has to close.
Old people are not that bereft of friends, home helps, churches, et al to take the parcel to the main office. If they can make up the parcel and address it, then actually getting it into the post should not be a problem to anybody!!!
21

Sister Morag,

Birmingham - though Lasswade in spirit 15/08/2008 11:36:08
Shutting the Lasswade Post Office would be an absolute travesty. The PO should be viewed as a necessary service and be fully supported and funded by the government regardless of cost
22

Sister Morag,

Birmingham 15/08/2008 11:38:50
#20 - that's absolute codswallop. In today's society it's not surprising to hear of people who have been abandoned by their families and are therefore living their lives in complete isolation. Gone are the days when people knew the names of all their neighbours. There was a case recently where a man lay dead in his flat for 2 years before anyone noticed. "Not bereft of friends"? I don't think so.

 

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