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Meadowbank: 'Final whistle has not blown yet on stadium'



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THE ink is hardly dry on the proposal to end years of wrangling over the future of Meadowbank and already the sniping from the sidelines has started.
It appears that anyone who, last week, was under the impression the final whistle had at last been blown, had better settle themselves down for extra time, and perhaps even the possibility of penalties.

It becomes clearer by the day that the reva
mp of Meadowbank is no longer viewed by some as a unique opportunity to begin to change the sporting landscape of the city, but as a football to be kicked around for political ends.

Right from the start, the whole process has been slowed down by narrow mindedness and the pursuit of selfish local interest by groups that appear to have ignored the wider picture.

After much deliberation and extensive consultation, last Thursday the council appeared to have come up with a solution that should have provided an acceptable compromise – a scaled-down version of the stadium, the retention of sports facilities on site and the release of land to pay for the creation of new facilities.

To achieve the latter it is essential that the council sells off 8.5 acres of the site for housing, to raise around £17 million required for part-funding a new track and stadium on the existing site.

But the idea of new homes being built on any part of Meadowbank already appears to have raised hackles.

The prospect of another Caltongate saga is looming, with those opposed to the sale announcing plans to swamp the council with protests. It is hard to understand objections to a residential development when Meadowbank is flanked on two sides by tenements.

Three years ago, the former Labour council launched a £100m blueprint for future sports provision in the Capital. It may seem pie in the sky in the current financial climate, but few could argue that for a city of its size and prestige, Edinburgh is badly off for large-scale sports facilities.

When Meadowbank and the Commonwealth Pool close to allow work to take place, it will be reduced to offering localised community facilities. If certain pressure groups cannot be persuaded to remove their blinkers surrounding Meadowbank, and the pivotal role it has to play, then future plans to deliver even a fraction of what was proposed will be put at risk.

Certainly when detailed plans for the redevelopment of the site are revealed, they should be subjected to full scrutiny – and at that point, those who object will have the opportunity to make their views known.

But those people already determined to oppose no matter what, can hardly be said to be objective. They certainly can't claim to have the best interests of the city at heart.





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  • Last Updated: 18 March 2008 9:43 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Meadowbank
 
1

Kevin Connor,

Meadowbank 18/03/2008 10:56:25
Another objective analysis from the Evening News editorial...

Save Meadowbank wishes to thank the Evening News for never failing to support the campaign to ensure that Meadowbank is upgraded and that the entire Meadowbank site is maintained for sports use.

The Evening News will always put the needs of the Edinburgh public and athletes over the need for profits of the developers.

Shame on the public for imagining that the Council should be able prioritise in line with public wishes and needs.

We should sit back and allow the Council to sell off our past and take away the opportunities of our kids for the future.

Thanks to the Evening News for putting us right.

For anyone that wants to see how confused we are, see:
www.savemeadowbank.org
2

heatherp,

Happy Glen 18/03/2008 11:12:04
I am afraid this is the standard of journalism that we have come to expect from the EN, one sided and completely spurious as they well know.
The only full consultation undertaken has been by the SaveMeadowbank campaign and not the council: we spoke with all the users groups, we consulted the local community of both Meadowbank and Sighthill, we have held public meetings on 3 occasions, all well attended and voicing strong support for no sale of land. The EN were at all the meetings too.
We are not against the development of Meadowbank into a sports facility fit for purpose and affordable, merely the sale of land to generate fewer facilities for future generations. How is this short sighted?
WE have worked with the council in their so called consultation groups, 2 reports have been written and produced without letting the group see the result until too late to comment. How is that fair consultation?

By the way if you look closely at the latest report you will see that what is being suggested is remarkably similar to what the old Labour council had in mind for Meadowbank in their grand and expensive plan for Sighthill and Meadowbank. How is that consultation from the officials?
I really wish the EN would present the arguments fairly and transparently rather than just regurgitating rubbish.

3

AaronL,

Hillside 18/03/2008 11:57:48
Hmm, from para 4 can you explain what you mean by the wider issue?

I see from the report that locally it is proposed that football will not be at the new Meadowbank, nor is gymnastics. But on the wider issue, it is also proposed that Scotlands only velodrome will be demolished, leaving cyclists with no training alternative in the lead up to the Commonwealth Games. That's ok anyway, because Scotland are no good at cycling - are we? Oh, and Edinburghs only throws area for athletes will also have to go - but that's just a NIMBY minded view isn't it? We don't need hammer throwers in Scotland, so the likes of champion Chris Black can bvgger off somewhere else. Is that what you meant by narrow minded?
4

BuddieWiser,

Penicuik 18/03/2008 12:05:08
'Free press'? what a joke. The EN is behaving like an extension of the Council's propaganda machine. That article was clearly drafted by council staff.
5

AaronL,

Hillside 18/03/2008 12:05:48
Evening News quote: "They certainly can't claim to have the best interests of the city at heart."

From they, subtract footballers, cyclists, gymnasts, athletes, champions, the public, sports users, campaigners, anyone else with sense.

Who do you have left, narrow minded officials, blinded councillors, greedy developers, and a newspaper that would sell it's own granny to get a quick buck.

So EN, are you talking about yourself in the quote: "They certainly can't claim to have the best interests of the city at heart."

If the shoe fits...
6

Tuppenceworth,

edinburgh 18/03/2008 12:08:05
I can't understand why the Evening News writes this guff.
Council plan – demolish the existing Meadowbank Stadium, sell off a third of the land and build new – but fewer – facilities.
Then allow hundreds of new flats to be built next door.
Meadowbank is busy every night of the week – despite it's current condition.
Over 1000 new flats already built nearby at Lochend, Hibs ground, Hawkhill etc.
The Evening News then writes that the public who are opposing the plan are blinkered.
It doesn't take Nostradamus to predict that we will need MORE sports facilities in the near future, not LESS.
Potential – showing the capacity to become or to develop into something in the future.
If any of the land is sold for housing then there will NEVER be scope to develop it for sporting/leisure use in the future.
7

Doh,

18/03/2008 12:42:56

A 5000-seater stadium with a running sounds like a good compromise to me.

After all the Commonwealth Games are in Glasgow not Edinburgh.
8

Linda,

Edinburgh 18/03/2008 12:52:30
4 If EEN is Council mouthpiece then it is the first time sine Labour were kicked out.
9

AaronL,

Hillside 18/03/2008 13:03:52
#7

Yep, is sounds ok on paper. But there's two issues Bill Walker (manager of Meadowbank for 25 years) pointed out to the council BEFORE they made their decision.

1) One of the proposed locations for the new stadium is physically too small. There is no way you can fit it in without removing the railway line or the main road.

2) The other suggested location turns the stand a further 10 degrees into a cross wind. At a cost of £2m to relocate the stand to make it's location worse, it doesn't even make financial sense. For those who ask what difference a cross wind makes, just ask any athlete in training - they need to get good times to qualify.
10

AaronL,

Hillside 18/03/2008 13:20:04
More evidence of the narrow mindedness of locals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIC811-Iz9A

On 10th March 2008, 300 people managed to squeeze into Abbey Church. This video shows those seated in the centre downstairs. The same amount of people were also sitting out of view at the sides, and there were more people sitting upstairs also.

All of them, narrow minded of course (except for the politicians nerviously playing with their watches at the front of course).
11

heatherp,

Happy Glen 18/03/2008 14:44:16
I don't live in the local Meadowbank area but that doesn't stop me caring about the sporting facilities there. My I am not allowed to rip down my Victorian house, sell off part of the land and then build a dinky new house to replace it to suit my needs. I would have to put in planning applications etc and my neighbours would rightly complain and fight to deferat that plan. Why should the council get away with doing exactly that at Meadownbank and why is it short sighted to fight to prevent it happening to public land?
Take a look at the you tube video and see Councillor Cardownie's face, one of total discomfort at out meeting, he knew he was about to renege on his committment to saving Meadowbank prior to the election.
It is political spin to the utmost to call the "new" plan saving Meadowbank. It is pathetic.
12

EdinaMan,

18/03/2008 15:20:26
The EEN is not the Councils mouthpiece -it is the mouthpiece of the developers who stand to profit.

The retarded logic of the EEN is to argue that less is somehow more and that the people who use the facilites know less about what is used and needed than the EEN from their terminals.

EEN prints blantant lies stating the Council has consulted. It hasn't. It hasn;t even undertaken a feasability study. Both the old administration and this one are ignoring the voice of sports clubs and users as well as the local population.

Why doesn;t the EEN come clean and reveal its investment in this project?
13

heatherp,

18/03/2008 17:10:42
#7 a 5000 seater would be fine if it was in the right position and actually fitted into the space. In the plans put forward to the council on which to vote do not have it in the right position nor does it fit without moving the railway lines. This can only mean that they will downsize again to a 6 lane track.
However, what is not fine is the loss of a lot more facilities for many other sports which is what we are fighting for. We also fight for this space, you wouldnn;t sell your lounge to pay for your kitchen woudl you?
14

The Spook in Leith,

Leith 18/03/2008 21:00:09
Meadowbank has to stay in some sort of capacity because we have seen the loss of Lochend sports ground and the loss of Meadowbank would mean a huge area of East Edinburgh without any decent area for sports.

However it is in need of some major upgrading and i nearly broke my neck playing football on the main pitch due to a large letter M falling of the main stadium.
15

Hisnameisdrewbusby,

City of Edinburgh 18/03/2008 22:11:14
Ah, yes, the ink is hardly dry....on who's report, what were their qualifications to write the report, who commissioned it and what remit did they give their employee?

Much deliberation and widespread consultation...with whom, about what and when exactly, oh and can we see the results please?

The Council we elected has a strategy A Capital Commitment to Sport (you can find it on the website) but they are selling off sporting land for housing - well, to raise capital. You say the protestors have blinkers, but you also say "few could argue that for a city of its size and prestige, Edinburgh is badly off for large-scale sports facilities". Did your left hand write one sentence and your right hand the other?

Your seem a wee bit naive when the climax of your piece is that "when detailed plans for the redevelopment of the site are revealed, they should be subjected to full scrutiny". The problem is that it will be too late to reverse this short-sighted decision by then - the land will already be sold and our facilities for sports will have been reduced. For ever.

Why don't you use your influence to examine how our council operates rather than targeting the people you depend on to keep you in business?

16

Pilrig.,

Livingston 19/03/2008 06:18:58
12 - 100% correct !
17

sportsnotflats/truthnotlies,

willowbrae 19/03/2008 08:38:59

10 GOOD REASONS FOR SAVING MEADOWBANK IN ITS ENTIRETY

1. Meadowbank has a very proud history and record in producing top class athletes and sports people, many of whom fully support the SMC.
2. It is a massively popular resource with demand for activities often outstripping availability
3. It is very accessible with a good bus service and car-parking. Its location is thus ideal.
4. It offers an extensive and comprehensive range of activities
5. Meadowbank makes a highly significant contribution in terms of the community’s health and well-being. The correlation between fitness and health conditions such as obesity, heart disease, diabetes and blood pressure is well documented, as indeed is that between depression and anxiety and participation in sporting activities.
6. A large number of schools in Edinburgh regularly use the facility. Very many parents, children and teachers support the SMC.
7. For users and locals alike Meadowbank is a welcome oasis with its green space and low-rise profile.
8. There is major concern in the community at the environmental implications of replacing part of the site with flats, in terms of pollution and congestion as well as the impact on the infrastructure – schools, doctors, drainage, etc. - of yet more flatted development in the area.
9. Given the popularity of Meadowbank with youth, constituents voice concern at the implications of withdrawing or reducing facilities on offer.
10 In terms of social inclusion –older people, disabled people, people from minority ethnic communities, in particular – use the facility in significant and increasing numbers.

Could the Council - or its mouthpiece, the EEN -now give us 10 reasons for selling of a huge chunk of this prized asset?

 

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