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Making the most of minority life



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Published Date: 13 February 2008
'I GET by with a little help from my friends" . . . the old Beatles hit best describes the SNP's gameplan for getting its Budget through a parliament in which it hasn't enough votes to go solo. Yet there was something of the sentiment of Frank Sinatra's My Way in Finance Minister John Swinney's handling of the parliament's spending plans for next year.
The distinction between the "Budgets" presented by the Chancellor in Westminster and the Cabinet Secretary for Finance in Holyrood is worthwhile noting up front, because we use the same word to describe two processes with about as much in common as c
halk and cheese.

When Alistair Darling presents his first Budget in the House of Commons next month, and when opposition MPs ask him where he's going to find the money for any new initiatives, GPs' new contracts for example, he'll be able to raise money from one or other of the forms of taxation he controls, if he can't shave enough off his spending on another aspect of NHS spending.

John Swinney can't pick and choose like the Chancellor because he can't use the whole range of direct and indirect taxes, or benefits, which the Treasury oversees, to try and make sure everybody who needs more, gets more. That's one of the definitive differences between devolution and independence or sovereignty. Had the Scottish Parliament the same powers as Westminster, John Swinney would have been able to use the extra revenue from North Sea oil and gas Petroleum Revenue Tax to invest in upgraded transport links such as the improvements to the A9, the Edinburgh Airport Link and a full tramway system etc.

But Holyrood's ability to invest in transport systems needed to keep up with Scotland's competitor nations in the 21st century is severely limited. Petroleum Revenue Tax goes straight to the Treasury in Whitehall. Scottish finance ministers can only move spending money around inside the "Block grant" Westminster gives Holyrood. So when the Finance Minister is asked where the money's coming from to scrap prescription charges, for example, he resorts to the use of smoke and mirrors, so his opponents can't do as Wendy Alexander did on Monday, and visit Gorgie City Farm to make the point that the SNP's prescription pledge will be paid for by projects like that.

I confess to being surprised that SNP speakers didn't make this point during the Budget debate. Instead most of them protested too much that a deal hadn't been done with the Tories, when a blind man running for a bus could see it. The Government missed a trick in not going up front and expansive with its tactics. Alex Salmond's somewhat theatrical gesture, in threatening to resign if the SNP's budget fell, didn't clarify the business going on in Holyrood for the public.

Amidst Lib Dem and Labour accusations of "backstairs deals", and name-calling "Tartan Tories", the minority government went about building support with the Greens, myself and the Tories in the same fashion as most of the governments in Europe when they have to win big votes in their parliaments.

My vote secured a fairer deal for Edinburgh and NHS Lothian. Hardly a backstairs deal, since I've been pursuing both for about seven years. I put my requests for a Capital City Supplement and a fairer share of NHS spending for Lothian in writing, and publicised them. I questioned the Finance Minister in debate.

So the Health Board will get £3 million more this year to kickstart an annual evening-up process, and the citizens of the Capital won't have to bear the full cost of providing national services and facilities. Minority government, don't you just love it?

Chorus of approval
DO I think we should enter the Eurovision Song Contest? Do Hibs play in green jerseys?

It's usually a feast of bad taste, worse songs and embarrassing presentation . . . but who can forget the first sight of what has become Riverdance, one of the most effective marketing tools ever for Ireland? Certainly, choosing a song, and singers would keep us interested/amused/despairing for weeks. And there would be the suspense of not knowing whether English and Scottish juries would vote for or against each other's song. But most of all, there will be a chance to do something well, as Scotland, on an international stage.

No ordinary hero
JOHN SMEATON came through to have lunch with me last week. The hero of the failed attempt to cause death and injury in Glasgow Airport is just as he comes across – a very pleasant, grounded man. He makes no false or inflated claims about himself, or his instinctive reaction in tackling one of the men with murder on their mind.

He admits, without either false modesty or exaggeration, that he enjoys having complete strangers talk to him and that his experience has propelled him on to a steep learning curve . . . and he's adamant his three colleagues who did as he did should also be honoured.





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  • Last Updated: 13 February 2008 9:22 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Margo MacDonald
 
1

Linda,

Edinburgh 13/02/2008 11:20:07
The SNP Scottish Government has enabled Edinburgh City Council to freeze your Council Tax in May by increasing Edinburgh’s revenue support by 5.21% for the year 2008/09.

This is double the current rate of inflation (compare with 0.5% increase over inflation hand out from Westminster to Holyrood) and will provide the City Council with additional funds to carry out Council projects under the historic Concordat agreed between the Scottish Government and Local Authorities.

Labour MSPs have carped on for weeks about “ring fencing” which is being abolished but the Concordat “service agreements” ensure vital services are being protected while allowing local authorities to set their local priorities without Big Brother telling them what to do all the time.

Also the Labour UK Government’s decision to raid the National Lottery Communities Fund of a further £675 millions to bail out the under budgeted 2012 London Olympics will take £16 million from good causes in the Edinburgh City Council area. Remember this figure
the next time Wendy Alexander or Labour politicians talk about cuts to the most vulnerable and disadvantaged in Edinburgh.
2

The Dark Side,

13/02/2008 11:20:45
The Dark Side welcomed Margo’s split from the SNP and would like to offer her some advice which will allow her to reap the full benefits of this.

“Had the Scottish Parliament the same powers as Westminster, John Swinney would have been able to use the extra revenue from North Sea oil and gas Petroleum Revenue Tax……”

Sure, but you can’t tell me that the oil money would be available to the Scottish Chancellor of an independent Scotland in about 30 years’ time. As a long term business plan, the independence agenda is a complete non starter and everyone knows it! I half expected you to “review” your support for the increasingly ridiculous and extreme independence policy following your split from the SNP and am disappointed that you have apparently failed to do so. As an independent, surely it’s time for you to put forward some kind of a constitutional compromise which would be more in tune with the balance of popular opinion among your electors.

Well done to Wendy in highlighting the folly of the Tartan Tories’ prescription charges cut! The visit to Gorgie City Farm made the point better than anything and I think you know deep down that you are disingenuous to try to suggest otherwise.

As regards the Eurovision, doesn’t it about sum it all up that the Nats are trying to get Scotland into this just when the contest is looking increasingly anachronistic and tired. Much the same could be said of the relevance of their independence policy to the modern world: it’s more than time to think again about this and forge your own way, Margo!
3

Jackie Priest,

13/02/2008 11:48:33
#2
"the increasingly ridiculous and extreme independence policy"

So, Dark Side, you think that all these other nations in the world that pursue a policy of independence are ridiculous and extreme, do you?

Or, of course, does independence become extreme only when we talk of Scotland, and not of Ireland, India, Italy or Iceland?

It is the union that is the anachronism in our little debate, Dark Side. It is a marraige of convenience that has long outlived its sell-by date.

The days of empire are over, though with a name like The Dark Side I can understand how this might be a little difficult for you to take.

May the divorce be with you.
4

calum,

13/02/2008 12:21:41
But none of your ramblings, Margo, alter the fact that you would rather have a poorly planned tramLINE in Edinburgh, than improvements to transport links which would have an economic and social benefit for ALL of Scotland. Says it all about you.
5

Linda,

Edinburgh 13/02/2008 13:20:14
Photo of Wendy at Gorgie Farm was a classic.
Who suggested she be pictured with a Jersey Cash Cow?
6

The Dark Side,

13/02/2008 13:33:09
#3 Jackie Priest: that’s right! Do what the SNP spin doctors have instructed and downplay the threat of independence by not actually mentioning it but instead comparing Scotland to other European countries. I’m not joking: it’s a known fact that party workers and MSPs for the SNP have been instructed that, as far as the independence agenda is concerned, the strategy to be adopted is for Alex to make comments on matters reserved to Westminster while others adopt the softly softly approach and draw comparisons with countries such as Ireland! If independence isn’t controversial and extreme, then why not come right out with what you want in front of the Scottish people? Or is the whole independence policy too much of an open goal for the mainstream parties?
7

ptdoug,

Isle of Man 13/02/2008 14:19:38
The Dark Side, #6


"If independence isn’t controversial and extreme, then why not come right out with what you want in front of the Scottish people?"

Do you mean, like, just ask them...The Scottish People what they want....like in the simple, straightforward Referendum the SNP proposes.......


"Or is the whole independence policy too much of an open goal for the mainstream parties?"

...and the opposition Unionist Parties are vehemently opposed to???
8

ptdoug,

Isle of Man 13/02/2008 14:27:06
It is SNP policy to ask the Scottish People what they want, and then endevour to deliver it.

It is Unionist Party policy to TELL the Scottish People what they may and may NOT have. (after having asked their respective leaders in London what they can do...of course)
9

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13/02/2008 14:37:28
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10

The Dark Side,

13/02/2008 14:53:27
#7 ptdoug: there’s no point to having a referendum because, in a nutshell, no-one outside the cult-like Nats is all that interested! Any result would therefore be skewed by a combination of a low turnout and a disproportionate vote among committed Nats. Also, if they lost, the SNP would only go from strength to strength once this ridiculous policy had been kicked into touch. Also, it’s surely the job of the elected representatives of the parliament to decide on constitutional questions: that’s what they’re there for, for heaven’s sake! Satisfied?
11

Linda,

Edinburgh 13/02/2008 15:19:27
9 Women don't like being called cows. Point I was trying to make - was the Jersey cow registered to give donations.

Drak Side.. bring on the referendum. Let Scotland decide.
Sign up for the Campaign at http://www.scottishindependenceconvention.com
12

The Dark Side,

13/02/2008 15:53:12
#11 Linda: you’re trying to canvass me to sign on for a referendum on the SNP’s ridiculous independence policy? YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS! Even if such a referendum were to be held, the question is so beneath contempt that I would not even dignify it with my vote! (And abstentions would have to be counted as votes against, in case you’re wondering!)
13

ptdoug,

13/02/2008 16:08:02
The Dark Side #10,

Satisfied? Er, no, actualy, for heavens sake.

"there’s no point to having a referendum because, in a nutshell, no-one outside the cult-like Nats is all that interested!" sez you...

Patent unionist nonsense, of course.

Results of all recent polls puts support for a referendum at between 60% - 80% in favour, depending on the pollster and the question asked. However the results range from a clear 60% (a good majority) to 80% (an overwhelming majority) in favour. No poll has returned a majority for the unionist aim of denying a referendum of the Scottish electorate.

"Also, it’s surely the job of the elected representatives of the parliament to decide on constitutional questions:" further sez you....


Er... Scotland should have a referendum on independence based on the clear majority of Scots in support of such as indicated by all polls conducted on this topic.... oh, and with reference to your statement quoted above.... Referendums are also, as a rule, an excellent device, serving to remind politicians that they answer to their electorate, not the other way around.



14

Bird of Prey, Substansiate what you say,

13/02/2008 16:09:36
Bloody hell..The Darkside is on form today, quick quick someone gag this nonsense before i let out his little secret.
15

ptdoug,

13/02/2008 16:14:34
Scotlands constitutional future will, ultimately, sooner or later, be decided by the Scottish electorate.

Not by trough wallowing party political careerists 400 miles away in London.
16

The Dark Side,

13/02/2008 16:31:09
#13 ptdoug: sure, everyone’s in favour of democracy in opinion polls, but just look at the decline in voter turnout at elections over recent years. You know as well as I do that referendums are an extremely rare phenomenon in this country because politicians are well aware that they would spend their whole time fighting voter apathy.

#14 Bird of Prey: what secret? What can someone I only know as a cyber friend possibly have on me? As the Master ate Media 1 (who was about stirred from his slumber night for some reason) would say: I CHALLENGE!
17

Bird of Prey, Substansiate what you say,

13/02/2008 16:40:27
#16 The Dark Side...Och i was only kidding you on my darkest friend...The Master who at media 1 is a good pal of mine and i shall be having tea at his tonight.

This little bird has to dash....XX
18

ptdoug,

13/02/2008 16:48:33
The voter apathy you refer to above directly reflects voter distrust and even anger at the behaviour of many of their so called elected representatives.

Corruption, nepotism, trough guzzling.... and lording it over the People from on high. Dictating to the people what is good for us and what isn't, and simply not listening to the wishes of the electorate.... as the Referendum issue, to have one or not, so clearly illustrates.

See you're getting your excuses in early.... "abstensions must be counted as votes against" !!!...

...Er, no..... a straight majority one way or the other will suffice just fine.
19

ptdoug,

13/02/2008 16:49:51
18 to TDS #16
20

The Dark Side,

13/02/2008 17:17:26
#18 ptdoug: “a straight majority one way or the other will suffice just fine.”

No it won’t! It’s major constitutional change you’re talking about here (an extreme option, which is in no way comparable to the establishment of the Scottish Parliament!) In all likelihood, the UK government would require resounding majorities on 3 separate occasions before acceding to the request. As for abstentions being counted as votes against, sorry, but this is more than likely to be the case. Sorry to pour a dampener on your pie in the sky “ambitions” for Scotland, but that’s the way it is.
21

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 13/02/2008 17:34:36
11 Linda in Edinburgh

So?

What is your point IF you have any.
22

Highland Mighty,

NO MORE EX-PAT NATS! 13/02/2008 17:43:18
3. Winged Messenger/World View/SNP Switzerland Branch.

Do you just cut and paste this tired rant every day?

It's not about the 'right' to be independent, it's about the democratic wishes of the overwhelming majority not to be.

Why, oh why, oh why, can you not grasp this simple fact?

How is the ex-pat life in the Alps nowadays?
23

Highland Mighty,

13/02/2008 17:48:29
8. Well, the Scottish people don't want to break away from the UK. Every poll has said that. Will the SNP listen to Scotland here? Becuase they don't seem to be hearing it, instead just try to start petty fight after petty fight with England (Lewis Chessmen, curry chefs, 'tight' budgets also known as 'largest ever' and now Berwick among many boring other 'issues'!).

Also, the majority of Scots favour Trident. Will the SNP listen to Scotland here too?

No, of course not.

Because the SNP absolutely believes it knows what's best for Scotland, doesn't it.
24

The Master,

13/02/2008 17:55:02
#22 Highland Mighty: well done! You’ve nailed him as surely as Wee Betie on the “Women in Jail” thread (see Wee Bertie’s posts at #138 & 139). The poor fellow kind of took fright after that and announced his departure for the time being (without even bothering to make an excuse, such as saying that he had an appointment with a bottle of wine!) Oh how peace comes dropping slow without the presence of the ex pat from Lugano in his various guises!
25

Jackie Priest,

13/02/2008 18:02:13
#22
Highland Mighty/ English Voice

#24
The Master/Dark Side

Nobody has nailed me, you chumps. I had to change my name when the Scotsman changed its website.

Unlike you hobos, I post under one name at a time, and one name only.

But, Dark Side, to return to the debate which you are losing, the reason the SNP follow the rhetorical strategy that they are following is, precisely, to demonstrate the independence is not extreme but EXACTLY the thing that other nations have got that we don't.

Independence is the norm. Unionism is extreme.

You, my chums, are the extremists.

And, English Voice, when are you going to develop at least a smidgen of intelligence. Or even a sense of humour. You are a misery guts. The Master and I CHALLENGE you to stop being such a thicko.
26

Highland Mighty,

13/02/2008 18:13:45
That old 'English Voice' line again. I thought we had thoroughly dismissed that a while ago...except for the more excitable ones who clearly thought I had two computers! You know, the conspiracists that see a London-led global alliance to keep Scotland down.

And with support for both the SNP AND independence dropping, how are we "losing"?

So why did you change your name from World View to Jackie Priest? Has the paper changed again?
27

Highland Mighty,

13/02/2008 18:15:08
And if 'unionism is the extreme', why are the SNP pro-European UNION and pro-Euro?
28

Highland Mighty,

13/02/2008 18:19:29
And you are STILL not grasping the very, VERY simple fact that it is the DEMOCRATIC wish of the overwhelming MAJORITY that is stopping the minority nationalist, anti-English, anti-UK SNP from getting its way.

Or is democracy also extreme?
29

The Dark Side,

13/02/2008 18:24:12
#24 Jackie Priest: if independence really isn’t extreme then why the need to soft peddle it with a marketing ploy? Think about it, that’s all I ask…………

PS The only reason I have two monikers is that my old moniker of “The Antifascist” was unfortunately deleted some time ago and I have been toying with whether to call myself “The Master” or “The Dark Side” ever since! Such indecision! Not surprisingly, I’m pleased to report that I’ve never had even a sliver of doubt over how I swing over the so called case for independence!
30

Andrew Allan,

13/02/2008 18:43:03
In the eighteenth century the most incredible event took place, the Scottish Enlightenment, an event which isn’t known to have happened in any other of the countries within the UK. Voltaire joked about the french that, ‘We look to Scotland for all our ideas of civilisation’, which in his style was a dig at his own people, but suddenly a dirty wee country which was better know for its fighting men and banditry had become the master teacher, and though the people sat at our feet to learn, those countries who had looked down their noses would turn away from us in time and deny we had ever enlightened them ever. The only conspiracy, if there is one, is to either create a situation which would bring about anther Scottish Enlightenment, in the same way as it was the first time, or to make sure people don't believe we were ever able to do it in the first place.
31

The Dark Side,

13/02/2008 18:43:40
#26 Highland Mighty: what evidence do you have that support for both independence and the SNP is dropping? This sounds promising, so please share!
32

The Master,

13/02/2008 19:04:57
#30 Andrew Allan: nobody’s denying the achievements of the Enlightenment. It’s just that we don’t want Scotland reduced to the status of Albania once the precious oil runs out! I think you Nats do understand this, but you look on Scotland rather like the doting parents who refuses to believe that their child could ever turn out bad. We non Nats are the ones who see Scotland for what it is (warts and all) and who are the true patriots! With that, Master over and out for today!
33

a proud doonhamer,

Dumfries 13/02/2008 19:29:36
Cringe, cringe, cringe....

The above is the main point of the unionist posters today.

They must be getting nervous as there posts become more shrill, more illogical and more desperate.

34

ptdoug,

13/02/2008 19:48:20
TDS, English Voice, The Master (you wish),

What a load of nonsensicle hot air.

If you even believed any of it yourself you would be screaming for a referendum... for surely if what you say is true, it would kill the SNP stone dead.

So why does the thought of a referendum scare you all so much?

Could it be that the fact is, and is obvious to all observers of Scottish politics, and has been commented on by political analysts (even those with a track record of hostility to the SNP and Scottish self-determination)that the SNP is playing a blinder in Government,.... the SNP has reduced the Labour opposition to a gaggle of blubbering, incompetent idiots incapable of fighting and winning any contest be it the next election or a Referendum campaign,..... and the SNP has raised the expectations and self confidence of the Scottish People to new heights simply by demonstrating a previously unseen degree of competence in Government to the extent that more and more Scots are realising that Westminster is now surplus to requirement?

Could it be that up to 80% of the electorate indicating a desire for a Referendum is simply TOO MUCH democracy for Unionists to handle?

You can dream as much as you like... but your dreams are fast becoming your nightmares.

Scotland is awake. The people are sovereign and will not only be heard.... they will also decide the final outcome of Scotlands constitutional status.

Now THAT is democracy.
35

DaveSubsea,

13/02/2008 20:13:04
# 2

I think you'll find that Statoil/Norsk Hydro, have bought acreage abroad and are already producing oil worldwide.

They have invested their money wisely.

36

Eve,

Scotland 13/02/2008 21:45:56
#23 Highland Mighty: What are you on???

Polls are polls, they only really show the results of those asked, normally between 1,000 & 2,000 people (I've never been asked). With polls your well in truly with in your rights to say it's none of your business.

A referendum is a different cause everyone who is eligible to vote has a chance to show their opinion and it's more anonymous than polls.

"Also, the majority of Scots favour Trident. Will the SNP listen to Scotland here too?"

It's well known that the majority of Scots are anti-Nuclear full stop that includes trident and power stations.
37

Jock Politicaljunkie,

Glasgow 14/02/2008 06:45:52
#2 - The Dark Side.

"the increasingly ridiculous and extreme independence policy"! (my exclamation mark)

Not so much "The Dark Side" as "In the dark". Where have you been? Even the Labour Party has moved the debate on from the clearly daft "Scotland is not viable" arguement. The arguement is, and has been for some time, what is best for Scotland.

You clearly believe Scotland is best served by the continued union with England. I respect that opinion and we can debate. BUT do bring yourself out of the political dark ages and accept that all political parties have now come to accept that Scotland is a viable prospect as an independent nation. I happen to believe that the position is somewhat better than merely "viable", and that is my opnion which I am happy to debate.
38

Brian Hill,

Edinburgh 14/02/2008 11:55:31
Jackie Priest #3. You took the words out of my mouth Jackie. We will win over the majority of reasonable people but I'm afraid the well named 'dark side' is unlikely to ever be one of them.

There is no arguing with people like that, they turn everything on its head and happily refuse to believe even what neutral experts like the Think Tank in Oxford tell them re Scotland being able to stand on its own.

And does he seriously think we as a nation are going to squander our Oil and Gas Petroleum Tax Revenues so at the end of 30 years we will lie back on our comfy armchair, burp and say, that wis rare hen, wake me up when the fitba's on?

Trouble is these people do tend to judge the nation by their own standards and short comings.


 

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