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Drivers live in terror of assault on the buses



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Published Date: 24 May 2008
ALMOST two Lothian Buses drivers are assaulted every week according to "shocking" new figures released today.
Drivers have had to contend with being spat on, stabbed and attacked with metal poles in a catalogue of assaults.

And the number of passengers being assaulted every year has nearly trebled since 2002 – with 39 attacks last year alone.

Bus chiefs today condemned the attacks, while union chiefs today called for the help from the public in trying to root out those responsible.

The number of attacks on drivers has dropped slightly over the last five years, though there were still 91 assaults in 2007.

Ian Coupar, marketing director of Lothian Buses, said: "Attacks on any of our staff or passengers are completely unacceptable.

"Even one attack is one too many. We have to get the message across that this is intolerable."

The attacks come as the number of buses operated by the firm has increased, with a record 114 million passenger trips on Lothian Buses last year – an increase of nearly six million on 2006.

There is now CCTV on the majority of the firm's buses and swab samples are taken after any spitting attacks.

Tony Trench, Edinburgh regional officer for Unite union, said: "These figures are shocking and highlight the stress and dangers faced by our members.

"Our own survey work has shown that a lot of these attacks do take place in broad daylight and we are looking for the public to play their part in terms of helping us prosecute these people."

In May last year a male driver was stabbed at the wheel of his bus after challenging a group of youths. The 47-year-old warned the boys after they started hassling other passengers on the number three service on Westfield Road, Gorgie.

He was punched by one youth, and another pulled out a knife, reached into his cab, and stabbed the driver in the left thigh.

In March last year a bus driver needed hospital treatment after thugs dropped a metal pole 15 feet from a bridge in Duddingston Park South through his windscreen.

The driver, who was struck on the thigh, managed to bring the bus under control. No passengers were hurt,

but the driver was treated at the ERI for cuts and shock.

Lothians Conservative MSP Gavin Brown said:

"Any attack on a bus driver is unacceptable.

"I hope that much more is done to protect both drivers and passengers on buses in the city. Previously, a poster campaign has been used to tackle the problem of attacks on drivers but this appears to have made no impact on the number of attacks.

"The Scottish Government needs to come out and tell us what plans they have for tackling the number of incidents of violence on buses across the Capital."

'I'd rather be punched than spat on'

"I KNOW it may sound odd to some people but I think I would rather have just been punched than be spat in the face."

That is the verdict of Andrea Wilson, 34, who was spat on after challenging a man trying to buy a Daysaver ticket in Craigmillar without enough money.

"I was just disgusted, and the guy had a child with him as well.

"I think if you ask a lot of the drivers they can put up with the shouting and the swearing but there is something really degrading about being spat on," said Andrea, who now has been with Lothian Buses for ten years and was promoted to a back office role from driving.

Three weeks ago, fellow driver John Cuthbert stopped at Minto Street in Newington and challenged a man in his early 20s trying to buy a child's fare.

John, 56, explained: "I told him the fare was a £1 and he just turned and spat on me.

"It landed on my shoulder. It was really disgusting."

As John says, all the passengers we affected: "Everyone was held up as I had to radio in the incident and wait for the swab kit."


The full article contains 681 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 24 May 2008 10:26 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Lothian Buses
 
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24/05/2008 11:30:23
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alex paterson,

Sevilla 24/05/2008 12:21:03
And so they should be they are the worlds worst drivers,and never run on time,a good rap on the wrist is what they need.
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Sqidward,

24/05/2008 12:27:56
Wait a minute....it says "The number of attacks on drivers has dropped slightly over the last five years.."

Why the negative spin?

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Loki - The Scourge of the Schemies,

EH1 24/05/2008 12:37:16
Whist deploring assault of any kind, to describe 1 driver assaulty per 1.25 million passenger trips as "shocking" is stretching it. The assaults, as described, will continue unless the limp-wristed judicial system is given a hefty boot to its collective @rse as an encouragement to ensure sentencing really does reflect the severity of the crime.
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CorgiNo1,

Edinburgh 24/05/2008 12:39:23
Edinburgh is lucky to have LRT - try travelling by bus in Bristol! Drivers are doing a grand job keeping things running with all the tram work going on- and then they get this sort of abuse on top. As a regular passenger I am getting fed up of Radio-Ned mobile phone outside broadcasts and the verbal abuse directed at other passengers. We need the equivalent of Bus ASBOS.
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Pinkpanther,

Edinburgh 24/05/2008 12:42:02
It is totally unacceptable that anybody be treated in this manner but what about the shop workers that get the same abuse, if not worse because they aren't protected by a window like the drivers sit behind!
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A Friend of Fernando Poo,

, Newington 24/05/2008 12:53:02
Spot on #1.

It's an appalling infringement of the liberties of citizens to prevent people carryiong the most efficient tool for defence of self nnd others. Drivers should be supplied with hanguns, trained in their use, and encouraged to prevent crime whenever they see it.

Better still, let's do it for every law-abiding citizen who's willing to stand up for the law.
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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 24/05/2008 12:57:43
2 alex paterson

Your comment is a joke, right?

Just because the drivers are behind schedule at times and may have a few bad drivers does not mean they should be spat upon, assaulted, verbally insulted, and suffer physical injury.

What an injudicious and curmdgeonly posting is yours.
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James (1),

24/05/2008 13:26:14
What about those who carry out the assaults? Should we not be caring more about them getting a criminal record and ruining their lives? The stress of having to go to court? These people need our help!
After all in todays society we care more for the offender than the victim.
Imagine if we actually treated those who committed the crime as, dare I say it, criminals?
Fixed penalty fines of say £200 for a breach of the peace on a bus and minimum prison sentence of one year with no time off for good behaviour for actual assault.
Now I better apologise for upsetting all the goody two shoes out there.
Power to the criminals, they are misunderstood!
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AuldReekie,

edinburgh 24/05/2008 13:31:57
An even simpler solution is, to allow each driver to be armed with a taser.

Paralyse then call the police to take them away.

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Beachy,

Meadows 24/05/2008 13:40:31
Sadly, this story just sums up how society is these days!!! Young people, Okay Neds, that have never had any form of deterant to make them think twice about being anti-social menaces with no respect for anyone.
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Beachy,

24/05/2008 13:45:10
#5 Agreed! Radio Ned outside broadcasts are becoming a big nuisance!
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Alannah,

24/05/2008 14:00:39
Explains why the drivers will do precisely nothing about the foul-mouthed teens who regularly light up at the back of the top deck all the time.
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Sods Law,

EDINBURGH 24/05/2008 14:07:10
No mention of verbal abuse or is that OK now
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Sods Law,

EDINBURGH 24/05/2008 14:14:56
Thinking about it, Im sure that some of the Bus Drivers would love to get out the Cab and fill the neds in.
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gordon aka smoker and proud,

edinburgh 24/05/2008 14:52:40
over 30 years experience driving coaches and buses, lrt included, i have to say that the story is really only scratching the surface, first hand experience. neds morons whatever you want to call them (females are worse by the way!) the goody 2 shoes brigade that managed to get the belt banned from schools, this human rights bill that been adopted. for gods sake lets get back to reality....shoot the lesbo social workers, the so called human rights activists, bring back corpral punishment belt included, no parole, no tv radio etc, hard labour, hanging,stocks (without the shares!) and maybe then we will get our streets back and be able to travel safely on the buses and the drivers will be better mannered and in better humour not driving and working in fear of what might happen at the next stop. oh and as tax payers we actually pay for the police force and their nice wee warm vehicles....less cars, more cops on the street to at the very least walk off the fat! and maybe then we can get some sorta sense of reality.
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Pond Hall,

24/05/2008 14:55:54
no2 Alex

Grow up, your teacher should give you a "good old fashioned" 4 of the best.

Nobody at work should have to deal with the risk of being assaulted

Read the Article Alex

"in March last year a bus driver needed hospital treatment after thugs dropped a metal pole 15 feet from a bridge in Duddingston Park South through his windscreen.

The driver, who was struck on the thigh, managed to bring the bus under control. No passengers were hurt,"

This is attempted Murder, this could have been a 2 year old kid sitting on the bus that the pole hit.

If the jobs that easy Alex, give it a try, you'd last about a day....driving a bus is no easy thing....never mind having to deal with passengers like You !!!

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SamSung,

24/05/2008 15:07:03
sadly it is the whole of society that has to put up with this yobbish behaviour.not just bus drivers.
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24/05/2008 15:15:23
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alex paterson,

Sevilla 24/05/2008 16:30:49
#17
Would not go on a bus if you paid me,nobody deserves to be spat on or bricks thrown at their windshields,i if you can read suggested a slap on the wrist.
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Unimpressed one,

24/05/2008 16:47:55
#5, "We need the equivalent of Bus ASBOS"

Better still the problem might be neatly solved in the new tram system by fitting a metal plate to the floor. The driver would then just blast any offensive passenger with 415Volts linked to the overhead transmission line at the flick of a switch. When the lights dim momentarily in the street, you'll know a yob's been tangoed!
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MasterXX,

taste 24/05/2008 18:10:42
cctv them - catch them - throw away the key!
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neds-r-us,

24/05/2008 18:24:28
Lothian Buses offered free transport to Lothian and Borders Police in order to get police on buses when the police were off duty, but the police refused.

When was the last time you saw a police officer on duty, on patrol, on a bus in Edinburgh?

In France the police patrol the buses with dogs.
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Dood,

24/05/2008 18:54:58
#24 - Possibly. But have you noticed the size reduction in Caramacs? Ludicrous.
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Embra Come On,

Embra 24/05/2008 19:22:41
Aye, it's like Beirut oot there. Or mebbe just another hand wringing piece of invective masquerading as journalism fae the worst local rag in the country.
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badger464,

24/05/2008 19:40:01
i used to work as a driver with lothian buses

police officers have a pass that entitles them to free bus travel, however off duty policemen would rather pay a fare rather than let the driver know he has an officer on the bus should any trouble break out

ask any bus driver, at the end of shift around torphichen st or gayfield sq you get these guys with black trousers and shiny shoes and a big jacket zipped up to the neck
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Dood,

24/05/2008 19:47:53
#30 - In fairness, are police officers not allowed to go home once off duty and merge into normality? Are they not allowed a life outside of their job?
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scaramela,

Edinburgh 24/05/2008 21:14:10
I am a driver for Lothian buses and I do not live in terror. I just want to point out that we all don't cower in our cabs dreading the arrival at the next stop.
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fife runner,

24/05/2008 21:22:34
#2 is probably one of the neds
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fife runner,

24/05/2008 21:26:15
also, they probably do not run on time because of other road users. if they did not have to put up with idiotic car drivers wanting to clog up city streets then buses would run on time all the time
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is it me?,

Edinburgh 24/05/2008 22:38:27
#24
Are you old enough to remmember when Wagonwheels were the size of wagon wheels ?
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is it me?,

Edinburgh 24/05/2008 22:40:57
...and are you old enough to remember when remmember was spelled "remember"?
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vorlic,

edinburgh 25/05/2008 10:56:07
after 28years service with LRT. in the latter 10-12 years of verbal abuse,spat on twice,assaulted twice and only one or two complaints from the travelling public i was medically retired at the age of 59.the public want the best service but do not appreciate what they have.go to any other large city and compare both schedule and prices for travel and you will find that edinburgh has the best BUS SERVICE in the uk.
the drivers get very little assistance from the travelling public,they just do not want to get involved. a persons health is not wprth any job no matter what the pay is.
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I should be studying,

Edinburgh 25/05/2008 12:46:14
#21 "We've got English up here as well mind".

And what, exactly, is that supposed to mean? Are you talking about the language or the people? Replace the word "English" with "Jews" or "Pakistanis" or "Blacks" and you see what I mean. People like you disgust me. Get that chip off your shoulder.
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Pond Hall,

25/05/2008 12:50:29
17 Alex

as you've indicated, Its OK to hit a bus driver.

And in many cases its because they are held up by car congestion in Edinburgh.

You contradict yourself....
.."And so they should be they are the worlds worst drivers,and never run on time,a good rap on the wrist is what they need."

So if your never on a Bus, then how would you know if they never run to time.

Again if its so easy, then give it a try, by the sound of it, you'd last about half a day and end up slapping one of the passengers!!!!
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badger464,

25/05/2008 14:22:19
has anyone else noticed that alex paterson is an anagram of expat n aresol
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valleyjim,

right here 25/05/2008 21:38:38
forget all this sh!t, where is Kenny Richie? The EN needs people like Kenny to make the reading more interesting. What about a Kenny Richie appreciation society?
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ecky,

was edinburgh now newcastle 25/05/2008 23:04:32
nothings changed then i was a driver at central garage 10 year ago and this situation was common then they put in the cage as we called it then helped a bit but in summer was like a greenhouse with the heat
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celtic4,

USA 26/05/2008 02:41:43
I think hitting or spitting is just disgusting. Why let anyone who does it back on a bus, ever??? Ban them to public transport. Have people show ID when getting on. This is pathetic behavior. No one at their job should be treated like that and the pole incident absolutely shocking. A tazer good idea too.
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Bertie The Bat,

26/05/2008 09:55:05
Let the train take the strain.
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Thaitym,

Pakkred 26/05/2008 12:11:55
"Previously, a poster campaign has been used to tackle the problem of attacks on drivers but this appears to have made no impact on the number of attacks."

Surprise, surprise. What a waste of money. For half the price I could have told them this would yield zero results. We've reached the stage where we need guards on buses. Last time I visited Glasgow I was shocked by what I saw. Young people with their feet on seats preventing others from sitting down, free newspapers strewn all over the place and yet the quality of the actual buses is something average Thais might dream of. Please come up with real solutions, not poster campaigns that merely look as if something is being done.
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Mr G saunders,

Cramond. 24/07/2008 19:56:59
I think it is shameful that these hard working professional people are having to put up with this disgraceful treatment. Worst still that it should be condoned (comment two) by a brainless moron on this very page!! Lothian should also assist by immediately re-introducing properly uniformed Inspectors, since their demise there has been an upturn in antisocial behavior which it is unfair to expect the driver to have to deal with, not every thing should be left to CCTV.

 

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