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Lloyds next to face bonuses crackdown as 'excesses' end

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Published Date: 18 February 2009
THE new Lloyds Banking Group is set to face the same bonus crackdown that saw Royal Bank of Scotland slash its payouts by 90 per cent, the Prime Minister said today.
Gordon Brown said that the "old excesses" of the banking sector are now coming to an end.

He insisted that those banks that accept taxpayer help will have to impose "the same principles" as RBS.

The Edinburgh-based bank has cut its total bonus
pool from £2.5 billion last year to £175 million this year after a public outcry over its plans to reward staff at the same time as it prepares to post the biggest loss in history for a UK corporate.

Mr Brown will now turn his focus on ensuring that the Lloyds Banking Group, created through the merger of Lloyds TSB and HBOS, will also take a similar "commonsense" approach.

"We will now seek to agree a fair package for staff at Lloyds TSB/HBOS . . . based on the same principles and taking into account its own performance," he said.

Lloyds, which stunned the City last week after warning of £10bn in annual losses at struggling HBOS, has been reported to be considering bonus payouts of up to £120m.

Chancellor Alistair Darling yesterday said the agreed bonuses at RBS were the "absolute legal minimum" the bank was contractually obliged to pay staff.

Within its total bonus pool, RBS will pay £175m in cash to staff, but it said only "legally binding guaranteed bonuses" would be paid.

Any individual who directly contributed to the bank's record losses will miss out, the firm said.

RBS also said that more than 80,000 staff were in line for a pay rise to compensate for it scrapping its profit share scheme.

However, it insisted that the pay rise would mainly be for modestly-paid branch staff who earn less than £19,000 a year and would have been in line for a ten per cent profit share pay-out, which has been paid over the last decade.

There will also be deferred awards, subject to clawback clauses, for staff the bank wants to retain. It was reported today that the deferred award could total £600m, although RBS insists no figure has been put on them.

The deferred awards will be paid in subordinated debt in the form of bonds, rather than shares.

Mr Brown said: "None of these actions is designed to punish or scapegoat City workers. London's role as a great world city is due partly to the dynamism and diversity of its financial workforce.

"I am clear too that bonuses can play an important role in attracting the best talent and in motivating staff, including those on modest incomes."





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  • Last Updated: 18 February 2009 9:31 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Lloyds TSB
 
1

steve 1511,

aberdeen 18/02/2009 12:05:05
the gibbering eejits broon and darling gave them billions without the promise that the money would not be squandered on items such as bonuses that are being payed out for the failure of losing billions
bankers politicians and football manager,a few of the only people who are rewarded for failure in their jobs


WE ARE DOOMED WITH BROON,DOOOMED
2

Big T,

18/02/2009 12:13:57
And another thing

Why is Goodwin not being charged for fraud as per the Encon CEO?

Both cashed in on a huge amount of Company shares before the collapse!

Both lied to investors regarding the financial state of their companies!
3

Noodle doodle,

zero dividend land 18/02/2009 13:21:32
Why should lloyds-tsb staff have to suffer for their chiefs idiotic decision to take over HAlbatross?

I've had shares in lloyds that have plummeted due to Daniels & Blank's gross incompetence, I wouldn't wish further pain on workers who have to take orders from these buffoons who were bought with wine and canapés at number ten.
4

Peter - very disappointed/concerned,

Edinburgh 18/02/2009 14:10:03
The bounus & preferrential loan schemes enjoyed by staff in Banks and the finacial sector generally should be stopped by Act of Parliament.

"RBS will pay £175m in cash to staff, but it said only "legally binding guaranteed bonuses" would be paid."

According to the radio this morning this is rubbish, sounds like RBS are going to be paying out some £900 million in bonuses and other non-cash rewards for performance - What Perfomance?


5

Honest Opinion 2,

Froggyland 18/02/2009 14:10:25
Aye; and I remember well the halcyon days when people were actually DISMISSED/SACKED for failure to carry out their contractual duties in an efficient and honest manner. No longer possible under the "nanny state" I suppose.
6

Bill MacD,

18/02/2009 14:36:41
The individuals responsible, such as the disgraceful Goodwin, should certainly be facing criminal charges. There is ample evidence already in the public domain that he (and others) are guilty of extreme negligence of their legal responsibilities. There is also plenty of circumstantial evidence for a case of fraud, since they were clearly breaking the rules in the full knowledge, for (massive) personal gain.

Long jail sentences for such evil and self-serving fraudsters like Goodwin is the only way to send serious signals to the next generation of bank bosses. Otherwise more greedy criminals will simply follow in his wake...

...as he relaxes with his champagne in the sun, with all our savings!
7

Suntoucher,

Exiled 18/02/2009 14:38:34
#5 - to be fair, the bonus system employed by banks and plc's up and down the country is a cheap way of offering an annual pay rise that avoids the company having to make pension contributions (in many cases). It is therefore a cheap trick by companies and very unfair bearing in mind the majority of workers' base pay level. Where it become really tasty, is for the high earners though. These companies (especially Banks) had a shed load of discretionary bonus' at their disposal and these are always a bone of contention and distributed according to whim.

The preferential loans and mortgages were never much to write home about as they are taxable benefits. Once you deduct the 'benefit' away from your tax code, the loan would invariably be not as 'good value' (ironic) as a comerical rate.

The share save offer was always another incentive to save with the propect of a 'kick' at the end of the term. Bonus' could also be taken in cash or in shares; all of which is or was reasonable when the market looked healthy and was rising. It was however fools gold, and the smart got out about this tikme last year, the feckless stayed in. No rights nor wrongs there.

Fundamentally though, I would agree with the current 'mob' sentiment that the execs and senior managers should not receive a penny and perhaps should see a pay cut instead.
8

COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 18/02/2009 22:29:20
it.was.colosuss.humane.stupidity.and.greed
9

MeMyself&I@home,

18/02/2009 22:57:36
#8 of course you are correct. Most of the genreal public don't understand what the bonus is there to achieve.
For workers it is most commonly thought of as a deferred payment. It's discussed extensively during job interviews and is a cheap way of the organisations getting the best out of employees. To punish the "workers" for the excesses of HBOS employees in particular is outrageous. Lloyds Staff should be paid their bonus (within limits) with nothing for HBOS employees who have failed in their jobs.

The government would do well to remember that excluding the city traders who have benefited from excessive bonus payments in recent years, the rest of these "bankers" are normal people, earning an average or below average salary. Not only that, they make up at least 1million of the voting population and they now risk alienating them. Those same workers are suffering even more than the majority of UK workers. they have seen their sharesave schemes decimated, bonus stripped away and future bonuses curtailed to the point of it all being ridiculous. These people all have mortgages to pay, bills to pay and kids to feed.
Spare a thought for the "common banker", for he has done no wrong but is now paying for the mistakes of banking leaders (excluding Lloyds) and the government.

This has become a political football and must stop now. They are playing with real people lives!

BTW, While we are ont he subject, are we going to now here calls for MP's to hand back expenses and salary for doing a poor job? Seems to be the norm nowadays. Perhaps Tony Blair could sacrifice some of his ridiculous post PM earnings to the Uk economy, afterall, he made costly mistakes, didn't he? I'd guess those mistakes cost the Uk a lot more than our bankers have!

 

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