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Pity barrow boys TIEd up in one place



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I WAS intrigued by your story about TIE's barrow boys in Shandwick Place (Evening News, March 10), an initiative that is to be welcomed not only during the tram works, but also as a generally sensible way to support transport logistics in a historic city.
Unfortunately, a similar sense of initiative is lacking in Leith Walk, where TIE has failed to live up to the undertakings it gave to the local communities in the run-up to the tram project.

Apart from the absence of barrow boys, we have seen poo
rly maintained works enclosures and associated signage, unsafe and far too narrow pedestrian routes, shoddy re-instatement of surfaces, repeated traffic light failures, a complete absence of enforcement as many car drivers take the law into their own hands, very poor communication with the communities affected by the works, and generally a lack of co-ordination and ownership of the inevitable problems created by such a massive and overall well funded infrastructure project.

Adding insult to injury, the much trumpeted promotional support package for shops on Leith Walk seems to consist of a single small sign in York Place announcing that Leith Walk shops remain open during the works.

As has been made clear to TIE, Leith Walk is probably the single area in Edinburgh least in need of need of trams, thanks to the existing excellent bus service. If TIE wants to see continued support for the tram from the communities on Leith Walk in the interest of a new Edinburgh-wide transport system, it is high time for TIE to show a matching dedication and provide real management on the ground, and a serious design input that emphasises the potential of Edinburgh's premier boulevard.
Harald Tobermann, Pilrig Residents Association, Pilrig Street, Edinburgh

Set areas aside for non-permit cars
I AM not surprised to read (Evening News, March 10) that parking is now a problem in some areas of Edinburgh. The reason for this congestion is quite simply because the recently created Controlled Parking Zones (CPZs) have forced cars out into the neighbouring areas outside the CPZs.

Rather than create additional CPZs it would be much better if areas were set aside within the new CPZs where there is no congestion during the day and allow free parking within these areas of up to 24 hours for those without a permit for the zone. Such a scheme appears to exist in Carrington Road, close to the police HQ at Fettes.

This facility could be easily extended to other areas which are completely clear of parked cars during the day.
Sandy Gemmill Mertoun Place, Edinburgh

Don't leave railway station out on limb
IN an article in the News on March 5 there is a claim by Faber Maunsell that they had identified slack in Network Rail's timetable which would allow a stop at Edinburgh Park with only 30 seconds added to the travelling time. Transport Scotland, however, claim it would add three minutes.

I am sure there's slack in the timetabling; after all, it takes longer now to get between Edinburgh and Glasgow than it did in the early Sixties when I first travelled on this route.

But is TS speaking for the people who matter: the passengers? Or, is it worrying about punctuality targets that have bedeviled the railways since privatisation?

I am sure the passengers want better journey times, and these will hopefully come when NR gets down to electrifying this route. The better acceleration of electric traction should cut journey times to 30-35 minutes, but at the same time allow more stops.

It just doesn't make sense to leave Edinburgh Park out on a limb, ignoring this source of patronage. As your report says, Edinburgh Park is the largest business park in Scotland with approximately 7000 employees based at 21 companies on the park.
David G Guild, Grange Road, Edinburgh

Thanks to all who helped after fall
MAY I thank all the kind people who came forward to help me, when I fell on the escalator in British Home Stores on Friday, March 7. I have not much idea who they all were. Two kind gentlemen got me on my feet. One British Home Stores assistant produced a chair and a glass of water.

I have to apologise to the young man who was sent for, to mop away blood stains on the escalator before it could be put back into use. Everyone was so kind.
Mrs J Macpherson, Carfrae Park, Edinburgh.

Park and ride was a waste of time
THINKING I would do my bit for the environment I decided to use the Lothian Buses X48 Park and Ride service to get to Murrayfield on Saturday. What a mistake.

The journey to Murrayfield was fine, it was the journey back that has changed my mind about ever using the service again.

Readers need to remember this is billed as a half-hourly service from Ingliston to Sheriffhall and all stops in between. However on Saturday, Lothian buses decided to change all that and terminate their buses at Waverley. I, along with several other people, one particularly elderly, waited over two hours for a bus while watching four X48s pass us that all stopped at Waverley. On contacting Lothian we were told that due to 'congestion' they had changed their schedule. Utter nonsense. They also couldn't tell us when the next bus to Sheriffhall might arrive.

After much heated discussion with their representative on the phone we were advised to go to Waverley and change for the 49. Is this the kind of joined-up public transport we are all being encouraged to take? As a side note, two of the people stranded had driven from York that day to watch the rugby. They won't be back.

My advice to anyone thinking of using the X48 is go ahead and use it but don't expect Lothian Buses to get you back again if it doesn't suit them.
Scott Kerr, Wesley Crescent, Bonnyrigg




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Shaun McDonald,

Edinburgh 12/03/2008 10:14:52
Scot Kerr: That is the same reason that Lothian Buses removed a lot of the buses from Fort Kinnaird back in July 2003. Apparently it took too long for the buses to get from ASDA to Fort Kinnaird. Maybe the buses need to be increased in frequency to get some more people out the cars, and to therefore make the buses more reliable, but that would be far too sensible.
It's a real shame when things are a victim of their own success.
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Speedy Gonzales,

Edinburgh 12/03/2008 13:25:04
LRT X48
I've never experienced a situation like the letter writer, and am a regular bus user, especially the X48. I would question however why the writer didn't use the 31 service as this would have served him quite well from the Rigg to Muddyfield.
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Curious Yellow,

Edinburgh 12/03/2008 13:27:44
I know it's slightly different, but when are Lothian Buses going to provide double deckers on the No 30 route? You see single deckers with passengers packed in like sardines constantly, and surely at peak times, a double decker or two would make more financial sense, apart from the safety aspect? At many times the single deckers are inadequate, and if one runs late or (heaven forbid) is cancelled, then the same number of passengers try to cram onto the next one along.
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Curious Yellow,

Edinburgh 12/03/2008 13:29:05
I should say I've only used the X48 on a coupole of occasions and found it fine. However, dare I say it, the numerous roadworks along the route don't help the situation one little bit!
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Thomas the Tank,

Edinburgh 12/03/2008 13:37:41
To Scott Kerr - you've highlighted a problem inherent in any shuttle service for a major event. The audience builds up over an extended period, sometimes several hours, but when the final whistle goes, everybody wants away at once. Unless the service provider can lay on a frequency akin to a conveyor belt, it doesn't work. That's why the TramCar Folly won't make a blind bit of difference at Murrayfield - even a capacity of 260 per unit will hardly scratch a full stadium of 67,500 and all vehicle movements are stopped for pedestrian safety anyway.
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The Judge,

12/03/2008 13:44:45
#3 They cannot put double deckers on the 30 route because of the 2 low bridges. Great planning by LRT as ever.
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Ryan Kelly,

mussey master 12/03/2008 15:24:57
Mr Scott Kerr lives in Bonnyrigg and chooses to drive about a mile to Sheriff Hall to get a half hour x48, clearly not bothered about the every ten minutes service 31 - which guys have beautiful brand new double decker super dupper buses! what a plonker!
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joppa jock,

Huntingdon 12/03/2008 16:42:39
MrGemmil's comments about congestion and how neighbouring streets are affected could be remedied by the method used in the town where my daughter lives. She is close to a station and to prevent the all day parkers the council imposed a pay to park sheme for 3 hours in the middle of the day, thus preventing the commuters from blocking streets.
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AB_R,

12/03/2008 19:46:03
I have just read the letter from David Guild, the current rail travel times is not just slower than the 1960's, it is actually slower than Victorian times.
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AB_R,

12/03/2008 19:48:02
Mrs MacPherson, just to say, I hope you are well and the more letters being printed to praise the people of Edinburgh where they help out the better.
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AB_R,

12/03/2008 19:53:45
I have to admit, I have never seen a full number 30 bus, regardless of what direction they have been travelling.

I have however seen more than my fair share of very full number 22 buses, all single decker and the very very odd double decker. It is also quite infuriating to see two or three buses arrive at the same time, with the first bus full and they still stop to take on passengers, and the two buses behing empty or half full and they overtake the full bus and carry on their journey.

Talk to each other for crying out loud. And to the boss of LRT it is not your job to educate the Edinburgh public to stand on buses.
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Gorgie_Tony,

Edinburgh 12/03/2008 20:40:02
#12 - I have been on the number 30 frequently - and it is a very busy bus - quite often running to full capacity. As for the number 22's being full - has it ever entered your head that the full bus in front has to stop to let off passengers? Then the bus driver will let on the amount of passengers he has let off? The number 22 buses immediately behind will not know the bus is full or near full - so if they have no passengers to let off at that bus stop, they will overtake to continue their journey. And before you suggest the ridiculous that the driver of the full bus has a radio to warn the other buses - lets not forget the driver has to wait his turn in the radio queue to get answered by the control room - so response is not immediate. And lets not forget if its rush hour how many buses are trying to let the control room know they are full??? Certainly not just the number 22. All drivers let the control room know when they fail to clear a bus stop - but by the time the control get back to them they may be well clear of the city centre and running normal. #12 - think about your comments before you post them!

 

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