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Two-tier allowance system for MSPs clears first hurdle



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Published Date: 10 May 2008
CONTROVERSIAL plans to hand constituency MSPs £17,000 more in allowances than their list colleagues have passed their first hurdle – but only on the casting vote of the presiding officer.
Critics have warned the move – proposed by an independent panel reviewing MSPs' expenses – will create two classes of politician at Holyrood.

The SNP and the Tories tried to kill off the idea when it came to the cross-party Scottish Parliamentary
Corporate Body this week.

But the Labour and Liberal Democrat members of the SPCB wanted just to "note" the proposal and let the full parliament debate the issue.

Presiding officer Alex Fergusson, who chairs the SPCB, used his casting vote to side with them.

But opponents of the plan claim there is a majority among MSPs to defeat the proposed differential when it comes to a vote in the debating chamber.

Under the proposals, drawn up by a panel chaired by Dundee University principal Sir Alan Langlands, Holyrood's 73 constituency MSPs would each get £62,000 to cover two or two-and-a-half members of staff, while the 56 regional list MSPs would get £45,000 for one or one-and-a-half posts.

The panel said they were satisfied constituency MSPs had to deal with a bigger caseload of individuals' problems than their regional colleagues and so needed more staff.

The cost of the proposed increase in allowances is estimated at around £1 million.

And the opponents of the Langlands scheme have come up with an alternative package for the same figure, giving constituency and list MSPs the same amount – around £54,000 each – for staff costs.

List MSPs dispute the claim their workload is less and say the proposals are divisive.

And there has been fierce debate inside the parties on the rights and wrongs of the proposed differential.

Lothians Labour MSP George Foulkes said having different staff allowances for constituency and list members would mean two tiers of MSPs.

He said: "There ought to be no difference between the two.

"Although constituency members have a lot of individual cases to deal with from one constituency, regional members have to deal with people throughout a whole region, which includes nine constituencies. It is a different workload, but it is about equal.

"The principle that all MSPs should be treated equally is set out in the code of conduct."

Independent Lothians MSP Margo MacDonald said: "MSPs have different workloads depending on the constituency or region they represent, their personality, expertise, interests, all sorts of things.

"But the fact they are a constituency or regional MSP has nothing to do with it."

Although constituency MSPs outnumber list members, the opponents of the Langlands proposals claim a combination of the SNP, Conservatives, Greens and Ms MacDonald will be enough to carry the alternative scheme.





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  • Last Updated: 10 May 2008 11:44 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
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10/05/2008 12:47:52
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NorT,

Edinburgh 10/05/2008 12:57:35
They are all MSPs whether they are consituency or regional MSPs. They should all be entitled to the same.
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Paddi,

10/05/2008 14:10:02
To be used no doubt To employ 18 year old sons and daughters on £40k a pop. nice if you can get it.
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me150,

10/05/2008 14:27:30
It is reasonable to expect an MSP with a bigger caseload. Since this seems to be about the area they cover and the number of people in the area how about allocating allowances on a per thousand head count. That would be much fairer.

The figures above seem a bit high though but I suppose it depends on what these staff are actually paid to do. As long as the staff have the required credentials then why not, if they are worth it.
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Ron S,

Edinburgh 10/05/2008 14:49:14
If the list MSPs do less work than the contituency MSPs then cut their wages.
Frankly I think we are grossly over represented
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Unimpressed one,

10/05/2008 18:30:08
Has any noticed how similar the new Chimpanzee enclosure at Edinburgh zoo looks to the Scottish parliament building? However i suspect the similarities end there since the inmates of the former are more sensible and only ask for bananas as 'expenses'.
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SamSung,

11/05/2008 00:57:09
what do these numpties actually do for the money they get at the moment?

sack em all and get in a buch of Eastern European graduates to do the work.

If they are prepared to come over here to do minimum wage jobs ,pretty sure there would be no shortage of candidates if they were paid £15k-20k.

and while i am on my soapbox........knock down that money pit of a parliament building.

it looks horrendous and does not even seem to be fit for purpose,much like the diddy msp's inside.


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SamSung,

11/05/2008 01:05:11
i meant "bunch".......but you knew that.
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Suomi,

Salo,Finland 12/05/2008 12:08:14
It is logical to assume that list MSP's would have a larger caseload since their potential constituency workload is drawn from several constituencies in a region.A constituency MSP only deals with constituency work in one constituency.All MSP's serve on paliamentatry committes and take part in debates and votes in the main chamber.
Actually whether you are elected by first past the post or by the regionaöl top up list,this has nothing to do with how hard a politician works.I recall in the past that some constituency MP's (for Westminster) were anonymous in their constituencies and hardly opened their mouth when they went to London.They were regarded as voting fodder for their party.By contrast the excellent list SNP,MSP (Christine Graham) in borders is hard working and well respected.Chrirtine narrowly failed to get elected by about 500 votes in her constituency election.I think that Christine would have had an easier life if she had.However,for once,I do agree with Foulkes,we cannot have two classes of MSP's.The only other alternative is to base allowances on an accurate measure of the work that each MSP actually does.In that case a lot of constituency MSP's might get very little.

 

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