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Sir Sean blasts football sectarianism



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Published Date: 19 August 2008
SIR Sean Connery has hit out at sectarianism in football, telling how his own allegiance has changed over the years from Celtic to Rangers.
In his memoirs, Being a Scot, currently being serialised in a national newspaper, Sir Sean said: "Why, as a once Celtic supporter, with its strong Catholic-Irish allegiances, should I cheer on a team known to attract extreme Protestants? Well religio
us affiliations in sport mean nothing to me.

"I deplore the bigotry of sectarianism that still blights soccer in Scotland, especially in clashes between Celtic, who field the emerald green of Catholic Ireland, against the blue of Protestant Rangers. Let's have the referee raise the red card to all bigots, be they blue or green, and send such mindless prejudice off the field for ever."

Sir Sean also reveals how he cultivated his distinctive voice with the help of a reel-to-reel tape recorder so he could hear how he sounded, softening his Scottish accent without losing it entirely.

He writes: "Of course I wanted to be clearly understood. I practised articulating my words more distinctly. Yet at the same time I wanted to retain the personality of my own voice and to be honest to my Edinburgh roots."

The launch is at the Edinburgh Book Festival on Monday.





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  • Last Updated: 19 August 2008 10:10 AM
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1

Darren :-),

Edin city but on ma way to Ibrox 19/08/2008 12:06:05
"telling how his own allegiance has changed over the years from Celtic to Rangers." - he's nothin more than a glory hunter! Do agree that the sectarian rubbish has to stop though (though over the years it has dramaticly) but still work to be done. WATP
2

r1niceboy,

Yankeeland 19/08/2008 12:17:39
If young Tommy the milkman wanted to stay true to his Edinburgh roots, shouldn't he be either a Hearts or Hibs fan?

/Raised about 200 yards from where Sir Sean was born.
3

Paulzzz,

Glasgow 19/08/2008 12:25:44
How can the jorno title this as "Sir Sean Blasts football sectarianism" when in his own words he only deplores it.

Plus is it okay then when it's got nothing to do with football.

Red top rubbish journalism.
4

Prin the Dissolving Donkey,

19/08/2008 12:28:19
He should have supported Queen's Park.
5

zorba,

aidrie 19/08/2008 12:35:25
Sir Sean has done a lot to promote scotland over the years, and independence. however, as he does not live here he has little understanding of what causes sectarianism in scotland. You cannot send off or ban bigots, you can only educate their offspring so that they do not turn out the same as their parents. Incidently did Sir Sean not attend Ibrox when sectarian songs were sung and if he disagreed with them why did he go back. he should stick to supporting scotland.
6

blackley,

Edinburgh 19/08/2008 12:44:13
Well why did he change his allegiance then? This is not explained in the piece!
Is it because he found Celtic to be more bigoted than Rangers? Surely not!
7

crabbit_bassa,

19/08/2008 12:59:40
"telling how his own allegiance has changed over the years from Celtic to Rangers."

Out of the frying pan into the fire shir shean
8

PDubbs,

19/08/2008 13:02:53
Why does a man born and living in Edinburgh follow teams from another city? Why does he not follow either Hibs or Hearts?

***SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL TEAM***



9

East at Easter,

Edinburgh 19/08/2008 13:09:12
No 11 good point. Im a Hibby but Connery was brought up in Hearts area. Yet he chose Celtic and then Rangers? ....

MORON.

PS (You wouldnt get a budding young actor coming out with stupid comments such as Connery's).
10

East at Easter,

Edinburgh 19/08/2008 13:10:31
Sean Connery. The SNP guy who lives abroad to evade paying Scottish Tax.

Whats all that about?
11

alex paterson,

edinburgh 19/08/2008 13:15:12
Whats the point Shir Shawn,its only a game,and i wanted to be honest to my Edinburgh roots,thats why i stay in the States.
12

Big Aggie,

19/08/2008 13:19:35
I'm sick to the back teeth of this resident of the Bahamas with the apalling phony Scots accent thinking that because he once lived for a short time in this country that he is entitled to have opinions and make comments about it. Shows how much he thinks of his former home city if he supports Glasgow football teams. Either come back here, pay the taxes and suffer the weather or shut yer puss!!!
13

Helter Skelter,

19/08/2008 13:23:10
Connery started waltzing around Ibrox during the 90s when Celtic were broke and Sir Minty was spending (borrowing as it turned out) tens of millions.

Connery liked the glamour that rangers had at that time, and therewas no more mystery to his so called 'switch of allegiance'.

He's just a big tart at heart.
14

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Salvatori,

19/08/2008 13:25:18
Yep 11 you're right. But Connery is no football fan - if you're a football fan you have your team and you stick with it, no matter how sh*te they are. That's all part of the romance.

Jumping from Celtic to Rangers? Not a football fan, just cosying up to whatever fat cats are in fashion at the time.
16

Salvatori,

19/08/2008 13:28:59
"Yet at the same time I wanted to retain the personality of my own voice and to be honest to my Edinburgh roots"

That's right Sean - supporting Celtic or Rangers is really being true to your Edinburgh roots. You lived 1/2 a mile from Gorgie you lisshping idiot.
17

Swordsman,

Dublin 19/08/2008 13:29:44
An earlier poster had a typo that called Connery an "Notionalist"..Thats EXACTLY what he is..."I have a notion to follow Celtic" then "I have a notion to follow Rangers" etc...Stay in your hermetically sealed golf course resorts and STFU...Oh! and ye cannae act for toffee,Try using Steradent and get your tongue out of Alex Salmond's shuck..
18

Swordsman,

Dublin 19/08/2008 13:31:45
I,of course meant POLYGRIP...SHURELY SHOME MISHTAKE,MISH MONEYPENNY...
19

G&t4me,

At sea 19/08/2008 13:39:30
No shurender Sean !!!!!!!!!
20

Bejjy,

19/08/2008 13:41:50
#16 Helter Skelter,

And the cybernats who habituate these threads often bandy Connery's name about as being the first President of the Republic of Scotland. Oh eck, I wonder what the wee one thinks about that idea.
21

THE BPRENTICE,

19/08/2008 13:54:00
My view is that he should be supporting Hearts or Hibs and for him to be talking about the environment, or the scottish economy or the state of sectarianism in our society today or the price of cheese is a wee bit cringy. Sean yer an 'ACTOR' FULL STOP

Having said that, I should add:

A couple of months ago - a friend was at a work related event where Seany C and his wife were also attending - it was the third time my friend could have tried to get an autograph from Mr Bond but each time she was a bit too shy to approach him ... especially since she was there on work business.

But her young son is a huge james bond fan and was really hassling her for a Sir Seany autograph.

So my friends boss isn't so shy and he went up to Sean Connery's wife and explained that my friend was receiving brain damage from her son etc... Connery's wife sprung into action and went over to the other side of the hall and immediately grabbed him over so my friend could get an autograph and a chat ... TOP NOTCH EFFORT if you ask me!!!

So, after hearing how nice they both were - it makes it really hard to criticise Sir Sean of Connery - BUT he should still support Hearts or Hibs though.

... and what happened when my friend got home with the autograph? Her son still complained that he could have had 3 autographs by now, instead of one ... its just as well my friend didn't have a 'license to kill'.
22

THE BPRENTICE,

19/08/2008 13:57:08
and BTW HEarts and hibs don't get enough credit for not getting sucked into the whole sectarian thing like the Old Firm fans do... especially Hibs (and I'm a Hearts supporter) , I'd bet that if Hibs fans were into the sectarian hatred, their club would have a lot more fans, sad to say. A lot of supporitng football is about projecting all the evils of the day onto the ref and the opposing fans - ask any psychologist. Not the healthiest really. So Sir Sean has a point.
23

Canada,

Canada 19/08/2008 13:59:41
Why are you people so bigoted against people who have left Scotland? Don't you realize throughout history most of your countrymen have left. Maybe you'd rather we stay up our own closes, close our minds and vote Labour for fifty years. There's literally millions of Scots today, born in Scotland, but for whatever reason are now abroad. They are still Scots to the core and not narrowminded parochial bigots like we see in some of these comments. I like to change my allegiance in football to any team with class. Over the years that has been Man Utd except when playing Scottish opposition. In Scotland over the years I've gone for Hibs, Hearts, Dundee, Dundee Utd, Celtic and Rangers, because quite simply, I enjoy good football. Time some of you got a life and did some travelling to realize the achievements of Scots are not just confined to Scotland.
24

gorgeousgorgieboy,

Edinburgh 19/08/2008 14:03:27
He is a miserable tight fisted git. Has never bought a round in his life.

Has changed to Rangers cos David Murray gives him free tickets. Used to be seen regularly at Tynecastle when Wallace Mercer gave him free tickets.

The man's a disgrace.
25

Swordsman,

Dublin 19/08/2008 14:04:42
#25...No one is disputing the cancer that blights the lives of many right minded folk in Scotland (Celtic and Rangers fans included)but to have this sermon from on high from a man who spends more time attempting to put a wee white ball in 18 holes and pontificating about the rights of Scotland while only ever setting foot in said country for Gala Premieres and the odd trip to Ibrox grates somewhat...
26

Swordsman,

Dublin 19/08/2008 14:14:16
Canada..You seem to me a "A La Carte" footie follower, a serial grazer looking for whichever team will give you that rosy glow of success...If thats your bag,so be it.
I am a Celtic Supporter,have been for over forty years and have experienced the lows as well as the highs.I wouldnt trade a minute of watching my team getting pumped at Ibrox,Tynie or Easter Rd because the real high is coming through the bad times to win a championship,cup whatever...Thats what being a real fan is all about...Hopefully there are bears, jambos and hibbees out there nodding in agreement ...
27

Neal! Whit? Haud yer Whisht!!,

19/08/2008 14:24:17
#5

Zorba - "You cannot send off or ban bigots, you can only educate their offspring so that they do not turn out the same as their parents."

The trouble is, as I see it, the offspring are educated in the same places and ways as their parents and just keep the circle of bigotry going. The only way past that is to ban sectarian schools, no more CoE of this place or CS of that place.

BAR ALL RELIGIONS FROM TEACHING CHILDREN!!!!
28

Swordsman,

Dublin 19/08/2008 14:32:16
Bar all television stations from screening "Zardoz","Highlander","The Hunt for Neds who are Sober" (or whitever it wis wi the Submarine),Marnie and any pro am gowf torney wi Sir Shawn,Jimmy Tarbuck and that twonk fae "Strictly come dancing"...That would enrich the quality of life no end!
29

rod_c,

Glasgow 19/08/2008 14:35:06
Connery's story wouldn't have read so well if he'd been honest and admitted he'd started to support Rangers after not getting a free ticket to a Celtic Rangers game & David Murray took him as his guest. Makes a huge difference that it's freeloading that mattered far more to him than any football doesn't it?

Connery wouldn't know a real football fan.
30

Wingman,

Edinburgh 19/08/2008 14:54:23
I agree with Sean on this, and in a free country he can support who the heck he likes !!
31

Alastair the First,

19/08/2008 15:14:06
Something doesn't ring true here. Leaving aside the sad fact that the bigot brothers attract "supporters" from all over Scotland and beyond mainly because they get such massive media coverage, how can Mr Connery change his allegiance? Once you support a team, that's it for life. You may go and watch another team due to where you live, and also support them by adoption as it were, but you never change your main team. Connery supporting Rangers after being a Celtic supporter sounds a bit like me buying a season ticket for St Mirren (Is it true their new ground is to be called the Ferguslie Park Methadome?) after supporting Morton for more than 45 years. Sounds more like a publicity stunt.
32

East at Easter,

Edinburgh 19/08/2008 15:18:40
No 27.

100% correct. I can confirm that Connery's pockets are not deep. His family are all the same (not that he has given them any help either!)

tight fisted Rangers so and so....
33

Frank Brady,

19/08/2008 15:27:57
It's amazing (and somewhat disturbing and frightening)how even as things change in Scotland (it now has its own parliament, for example)other things, like anti-Catholic bigotry, stay exactly the way they have for so many years; one has only to read many of the posts on this week's board in the Sunday Scotsman regarding the Catholic Church and the innoculation of children.

Whenever Catholic lay people or Church leaders comment about Church teaching, particularly on matters of sexual morality, out of the woodwork come the bigoted neanderthals. And when a prominent Scottish figure, like Sean Connery, bemoans sectarianism among Scotland's major football teams' supporters, all the midget brains, presumably supping excessively at their beer, vilify the man; perhaps, some (most?) of these intellectually handicapped men are part of the problem.

Here we are in the 21st century heading for independence and political maturity and some of those who contribute their "thoughts" to a major Scottish newspaper, knee-deep as they are in envy of someone who actually had the self-belief and courage to better himself, and, as a result, brought great respect from the world to Scotland, continue to spew out their pathetic ramblings. When will they ever grow up? And when will they at least dilute their dreadful bigotry?
34

Yeah1,

19/08/2008 15:36:01
#36

"when a prominent Scottish figure, like Sean Connery, bemoans sectarianism among Scotland's major football teams' supporters, all the midget brains, presumably supping excessively at their beer, vilify the man."

Actually if you look back through the postings most of the people criticising Connery are doing so because:

1. He has changed his allegiance in football/does not support his local team

2. He no longer lives in Scotland, doesn't pay tax etc.

No one is criticising Connery for his anti-sectarian views.
35

Anthony Quigley,

Tollcross, glasgow 19/08/2008 15:39:54
So when celtic were dominant winning the title every year on there way to 9 in a row he was a celtic fan.Then when rangers were dominant on there way to 9 in a row he was a rangers fan. what a gloryhunting plonker.
36

Walleroonie,

Dalkeith 19/08/2008 15:40:39
#26

You've misread the majority of the comments, no one on here is bigoted against people who have left Shcotland, the majority of whom have left, started a new life in a different country and come back to visit now and again because essentially, they don't meddle in things that won't really concern them 3 weeks later.

What winds people up over here is that this particular Shcot seems to be at great pains to support the SNP, get involved with all kinds of issues over here and basically deride a large proportion of the population who don't have the means to live their lives on a golf course, paying little or no tax and sport a permanent tan all year round.

The pale pinky white people of Scotland who reside here have a say in what happens here, but someone who comes over for the festival, the odd film premier, a round or two at the Old Course and pays less in tax than the people he is temporarily mixing with should not.

Oh, I'm English and I follow York City, have done so since I was 6 and quite obviously I don't care for that big team glamour at all. I'll vote how I want without SC telling me how to do it.
37

Banana Heid,

Ayrshire 19/08/2008 16:03:32
#13 Is it scottish tax? I thought all our hard earned went to the English...

PS: I support Rangers and Celtic. this really annoys my work colleagues but it works for me and it means my team usually always wins...
38

Anthony Quigley,

19/08/2008 16:05:54
***post40 are u having a laugh u weirdo ?
39

Yeah1,

19/08/2008 16:16:35
#40

"I support Rangers and Celtic. this really annoys my work colleagues but it works for me and it means my team usually always wins."

Well like Sean Connery you aren't a 'real' football supporter, you are just someone who likes glory.

Perhaps being from Ayrshire you should support Ayr United or Kilmarnock too? The latter very occasionally win things so you could get a bit of glory from them too.
40

nolimits,

Kamloops, BC 19/08/2008 16:17:28
Amazing! That a non-story about an actor, and a mediocre one at that, can generate such response.
41

Swordsman,

Dublin 19/08/2008 16:17:33
BTW Why didnt Connery shout about this canker on the e rse of Scottish society way back in the day...?

I remember being bottled by our "Brothers in sport" way back in the sixties and seventies until the introduction of the Criminal Justice act 1980 put paid to that.I remember being harrassed in the street for wearing a particular colour of scarf (as ,I'm sure many who wore a different coloured scarf were too)

Where was our knight in shining armour then?

Oh,I get it! Nae book to promote then...See celebrity clowns sticking their oars in when it suits them...FFFFKK!!

Oh and Frank at 36....A worfd to the wise,never a good idea to use a sentence containing the words "Knee Deep" in a thread about sectarianism...
42

mac1888,

Bute 19/08/2008 17:55:25
shenile?
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Daily user,

Queensferry 19/08/2008 18:30:29
Why bother commenting on this piece piece of 'tabloid' rubbish? The man's nae mare 'Scots' than the junk they sell on the 'Royal Mile'.
45

Canada,

Canada 19/08/2008 18:31:20
Every Scot who has gone overseas has to moderate his speech somewhat, otherwise the locals would need subtitles to understand him. More so with Connery being in Hollywood, do you think the world would understand a broad Edinburgh accent? Criticise the man for being interested in Scottish affairs shows no understanding of expats. Scottish expats are extremely loyal to the land of their birth even down the generations. Bring two together and the topic is likely to be Scotland, no other nation of immigrants is like that. Criticising Connery for meaness is ridiculous. Why should he pay money to an English exchequer? What he gives away he tends to do privately, including whole tax free fees for at least two films to Scottish charities. Regards football: a man can watch whatever team he wants. Forget all this old loyalty businees. Check the fixture list and if you're a real fan pick the best game you think will be entertaining. Broaden your horizon, visit every ground in Scotland without the Old Firm in attendance. We all enjoyed Euro did we not though being neutral? To quote Burns, "Gently scan your brother man, to step aside is human."
46

snecked,

Aregyll 19/08/2008 18:35:59
Actually, Shir Sean pays lots of tax on all his considerable UK earnings and also has put a very very large sum of money into a trust that helps the disadvantaged in Scotland in accessing advanced education but he doesn't say anything about that.
Lots of pea sized brains commenting on this topic.
Sad state the Scotsman is getting into attracting a tabloid clientele.
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Daily user,

Queensferry 19/08/2008 18:38:18
What drivel! Oh and bye the way, what's 'Euro' and, why should we all have enjoyed it?
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Daily user,

Queensferry 19/08/2008 18:40:43
Sorry, I should have referenced the comment to which I referred. That's #48 in case you hadn't guessed.
49

Daily user,

Queensferry 19/08/2008 18:41:19
....and #49
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Get a life!,

19/08/2008 18:41:31
Who cares what Sean Connery thinks! He doesn't even live in Scotland, so why do the media give him the time of day!
The man supports SNP - that's the kind of misguided moron we are dealing with!
51

Daily user,

Queensferry 19/08/2008 19:00:23
# 53
Yep, I agree that he may be a misguided moron in may respects! However, being moronic is something I would normally have associated with supporters of the previous incumbents of the 'Scottish Executive'!
52

Canada,

Canada 19/08/2008 19:01:43
#50, 51, 52,
Queensfairy. Rather than making silly one line statements can you not make a sensible rebuttal? Are your powers of arguement limited?
53

Daily user,

Queensferry 19/08/2008 19:05:45
B.T.W. #53
Media is 'singular'. Therefore, .........!! Oh, what the heck, far be it for me to criticise someone's grasp of English grammar.
54

P Rayner.,

Clacton 19/08/2008 19:07:11
Well I'm a Wolves supporter myself and I despise the hoi polloi from, won't mention the name, the west of Brum. But, but and this is the point, old Micky Connery can deliver the gold tops to my club anytime. Apart from that, don't have much to say really.
55

Daily user,

Queensferry 19/08/2008 19:19:19
Well #58. As you have made clear, you don't have much to say! Perhaps it would have been best if you had resisted the urge to say anything at all!
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FLUB,

a rocky outcrop in eastern central Scotland 19/08/2008 19:26:20
#56 The term 'media' is in fact plural, the singular being 'medium'.

#36 Comments that you refer top were not anti-catholic bigotry; they were the justifiable concern at the facility granted to the foreign representatives of a minority population to dictate educational information provision for the entire country, with no consultation with elected representatives. So shove your affected mock piety where the sun don't shine.
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Daily user,

Queensferry 19/08/2008 19:36:54
#59. I stand corrected....maybe! I'll have to check 'common parlance'; collective noun ? Nevertheless, thank you for the 'heads up'.
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Daily user,

Queensferry 19/08/2008 19:40:13
By the way Flub (#59) I like your rhetorical style!
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P Rayner.,

Clacton. 19/08/2008 19:44:05
58 Why?
60

Daily user,

Queensferry 19/08/2008 19:45:18
#62. Need I say more ?
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Daily user,

Queensferry 19/08/2008 19:50:02
Well, I've now lost the plot, and the will to live! Perhaps the Whisky's now got the better of me. good evening all.
62

Edinburghs only big team,

19/08/2008 20:11:11
he should worry more about his home country (bahamas)

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Beth Boyle,

NY 19/08/2008 20:51:16
Sectarianism in football is insane considering most Scots no longer even are practising Christians! Besides Christ does not care who wins a sporting match! Bravo Sean. You have it right. There is no room for religion in sport! As a Christian I find it disturbing this sort of thing is still is alive! Basically 70% more people follow football than Christianity. Leave off the nationalistic and sectarian pomp and get down to some good serious play!
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Richardinho,

20/08/2008 07:48:09
In terms of major european football, the old firm, are your local team if you're Scottish. The other teams in the SPL are just feeder teams at best.

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wayne bijlyeerheid,

20/08/2008 11:55:44
The insults directed towards Sean Connery , especially from those who identify with a foreign state are indicative of not only sectarianism but racialism.
The problem for them is that a Scot born in Scotland identifies with a Scottish team and not the celtc-minded, that is the crime.
Compare to Mr R Stewart esq., an Englishman who comes to Scotland to wave an Irish flag.

Perhaps Swordsman, Dublin can explain his interest in what the nationals of another country do, where he gets the right to insult them for what they do and whether this priviledge is reciprocal for Scots re. Irish nationals living in the republic.

#68 Glad you're against wife-beating.
Still got a photie of wee jinky on your wall?
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Mtaity,

20/08/2008 13:17:52
Unbelievable...to support a club as non progressive to the point of complicity...Mo Johnson not being that many moons ago for example. BUT WHAT IS WORSE IS THE READERSHIP NOT PICKING UP ON THIS! New generations of immigrants have suffered because of otherwise intelligent
Scots not speaking out when acts of wanton bigotry have been imposed on the Irish Scots community. The man ain't a fool but has a twisted concept of nationalism. His dangerous desire to be associated with equally lunatic nationalistic organisations that still, to this day linger round The Death Star with no sense of shame is proof enough of the mans lack of understanding that we are all born as equals. Shame on you Sean and shame on Scotland for confusing sectarianism with racist anti immigrant institutionalized evil! Please,please ladies and gentlemen of the press expose the man for what he is...careful ladies as you may get a slap!
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A Clamper,

Edinburgh 20/08/2008 14:42:24
#48 I agree. There are Celtic and Rangers fans who are whether they admit it or not, sectarian. There are also Celtic and Rangers fans who are not. He is quite rightly condemning sectarianism wherever it rears its ugly head. No one on here should kid themselves that it is restricted to Celtic and Rangers fans either.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/08/2008 17:01:18
Wayne..Apologies for not stating earlier that,although I live in Ireland, I am Scots born and bred,and feel it is my right to comment on such matters as much as Mr Connery.

My point is that,while I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiments, I dont need to drag this up because I have a book to promote or to pontificate from on high as seems to be the case with this chap.

Hope that clears this up for you...
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Alba Abú,

20/08/2008 18:28:38
#70 Whilst your English government and your English queen still occupy a part of Ireland against the wishes of 88% of the people living on the island of Ireland, then the Irish diaspora have every right to comment on the affairs of England and her provinces i.e. Scotland and Wales.
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Alba Abú,

The heart of Midlothian 20/08/2008 18:35:26
I can just see poor old Sean,down on one knee,the same knee that this great Scottish nationalist used when he was being subservient to his English queen,begging his new found friends to accept him,while they sing about being up to their knees in his blood,and singing appalling profanities about his spiritual leader,the Pope.

Oh Dear! Oh Dear! Poor Sean, What have you got yourself in to?
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Alba Abú,

20/08/2008 18:43:16
#59 Blub Mouth. You are one of the sick anti Catholic bigots who has kept Scotland in the dark ages for a very long time. Sling your hook you Idiot,Scotland and the Scottish people dont want your 17th century mutterings. By all accounts,according to David Murray and Sean Connery,you are not wanted at Ibrox either.What a loser you really are.
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Canadian Jambo,

20/08/2008 22:51:22
Careful now about only supporting the team nearest to where you were born or grew uo. I grew up in Weegieland and am a diehard Jambo. What is important is that you don't support a team based on religious affiliation. That is Scottish football's tragedy.
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