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Sheriff attacks city-centre exclusion zone for thieves



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Published Date: 11 October 2008
A SHERIFF has slammed an exclusion zone in the city centre set up by police to ban serial thieves from the area, saying it will simply move the problem to Bruntsfield.
Andrew Lothian said he was "not happy" with the scheme as he dealt with a trio of shoplifting cases at Edinburgh Sheriff Court yesterday.

Sheriff Lothian said that shopkeepers outside the zone may suffer if thieves hit with the order are forced to
target premises outside the city centre.

But police chiefs said the zone had been carefully crafted after an analysis of shoplifting hotspots in the Capital and believed it would impact on the number of offences being committed.

Each person accused of shoplifting is now shown a map of the area and has to sign-up to the exclusion zone as part of their bail conditions.

Although bail orders have previously included areas where accused thieves cannot enter, it is the first time in Scotland that a zone has been formalised for use across different cases.

The zones includes busy shopping spots Princes Street, George Street, Lothian Road and Multrees Walk in a bid to keep out prolific offenders. But Sheriff Lothian said: "Who came up with this zone? Why should we move shoplifters to other parts of the town?

"I'm not happy about this. If people have teams of shoplifters coming up from Glasgow by train then I'd understand.

"But I'm not sure what the shopkeepers outside the zone in areas like Bruntsfield would think about this."

Bruntsfield jewellery shop owner Sandie Wilson Greene said the move had left her worried that smaller shops will suffer.

She said: "It seems to me they are just protecting the big businesses like M&S, where a stolen item has little effect on income.

"We've got a nice area here and the only problems are school kids on lunch breaks at the newsagent. We've had one shoplifter in the 18 years we've been here, but this zone means we'll probably get more now."

Police said they picked specific areas having consulted with the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service and vowed to "monitor closely" any knock-on effects.

A police spokesman said: "The effect of this is to prevent an individual entering an agreed area defined in the attached map.

"This map has been compiled following research of all crimes of shoplifting within the city centre area, and is designed to exclude offenders who come before the court from the 'hot spot' areas, lessening their opportunity to commit this or other offences whilst legal proceedings are ongoing.

"The Edinburgh City Centre Bail Exclusion Zone is a new project and, as such, will be closely monitored to assess its impact on local crime."





The full article contains 461 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 11 October 2008 11:05 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

NorT,

Edinburgh 11/10/2008 12:32:15
Another case of the Police overstepping their authority. However the Sheriff can refuse to attach these conditions to bail.
2

Oliver Smith,

Edinburgh 11/10/2008 12:44:36
Sorry NorT,what was that....."another case of police overstepping their authority".What a stupid thing to say when you consider that these thieves steal/shoplift day in, day out, and make it their career. Maybe the Sheriff's should use their "authority" and jail them, so that the knock on effect of these shops having to pass on their losses to us law abiding people doesn't come to fruition........I'd rather the police actually do try and ban these people from our city centres, and remember also, that it is the SHERIFF that actually grants the bail decision.....the police merely ask to have it considered......muppet !
3

Mikey,

11/10/2008 13:16:41
Considering that a large amount of the shoplifters are women, if they were jailed, the bleeding hearts would be out in force with their whining about the kids!
4

Havelock Vetinari,

Leith 11/10/2008 13:25:24
NEVER MIND the city-centre exclusion zone !!!!! What about the North Edinburgh Exclusion zone ??
With Newhaven Road closed at Ferry Road and Inverleith Row closed to northbound traffic from Monday; how do I get to Trinity/Newhaven ? What clown came up with this idea, cutting off thousands of homes from the emergency services ???
5

Paddi,

11/10/2008 14:50:01
How about serial thieves being locked up till they get the message?
6

calum,

11/10/2008 15:18:13
#2 - I agree with NorT, the Courts and Hearings should have the power to ban or exclude offenders from certain areas but it is a fundamental principle of Scots Law that the Police are reporters to the Crown. They cannot and must not become enforcer, reporter, judge and jailer, that way lies a police state.
The Police are not there to make up for a perceived shortcoming in the justice system, that's what politicians and the judiciary are for. Our system may not always serve us well, but its better than the alternative.
7

Drat,

Edinburgh 11/10/2008 16:03:07
Catch them and then cut their hands off, sorted.
8

Kirsty Boyd-Williamson,

New Town 11/10/2008 16:39:48
Andrew is being silly and needs to get his mind right on this one. Any measure that encourages riff-raff and their associated nefarious activities away from the New Town will be greatly welcomed by all right thinking citizens.
9

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

11/10/2008 17:31:03
If there are worries they'll target other shops, get an exclusion order from *all* shops. Perhaps once they have to have someone do all their shopping for them, they'll understand that shopping is a trade based on trust between shop and shopper.
10

Teofilio Cubillas,

11/10/2008 18:20:05
I think the shopkeepers of Bruntsfield will be OK. I don't imagine there's much demand in Niddrie or Muirhouse for chored wind-chimes, scented candles, organic humous and outrageously priced cheese.
11

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

11/10/2008 20:14:13
Sheriff Lothian asks: why should we move shoplifters to other parts of the town ? - answer is because they are not in jail
12

Lord Dyson,

11/10/2008 21:36:18
My chums the Sheriffs are very good with the law and in particular, evidence. This does not mean that their cups runneth over with common sense or that they sit at the right hand of reality. That the Busies are able to exclude certain nefarious types from certain areas for certain reasons, is because certain chums of the Sheriffs have decided that this is desirable and built it into our laws. The boys in blue don't just make it up for themselves.
13

just-whatever-eh,

DR/F1/MO2 12/10/2008 15:12:15
"I'm not happy about this. If people have teams of shoplifters coming up from Glasgow by train then I'd understand."

Why has he singled out Glasgow? There are many other cities that are connected via train to the city centre. Has Glasgow got a reputation for shoplifters perchance??
14

animmo,

Leith 12/10/2008 16:39:33
How utterly preposterous! You can't start banning people from certain areas in case they do something wrong! Innocent until proven guilty, no matter how often they may have done it in the past. Big Brother, here we come!
15

Finbarr Saunders,

12/10/2008 17:45:20
Maybe Sheriff Andrew Lothian stays in Bruntsfield and doesn't want to rub shoulders with all the sticky-fingered, schemie scum when out shopping?
16

MickyFinn,

Livingston 13/10/2008 10:58:00
#15

Good point. typical LawLord totally out of touch talk about 21st Century our law lords are stuck in the 19th.
One way round the Bail orders is the party pleads guilty and gets a minimum fine or let off with a warning due to some poor excuse made up by the leeches that represent them!

 

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