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'Second-class' MSPs banned from immigration helpline

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Published Date: 05 November 2009
HOLYROOD politicians have been banned from using a special hotline to help constituents with immigration problems.
Home Office officials say MSPs can no longer dial the helpline because immigration is a Westminster responsibility and information will only be made available to MPs.

Today, Edinburgh South Liberal Democrat MSP Mike Pringle said he had used the ho
tline several times in the past without any problems, and he complained the ban meant MSPs were being treated like second-class citizens.

He has now written to Home Secretary Alan Johnson to demand an explanation.

The hotline was introduced in 2001 so MPs could phone up about questions brought to them by constituents.

Today, the Home Office said helpline staff would not deal with MSPs because they did not have any remit over immigration and asylum matters.

Mr Pringle was shocked when he rang the hotline and was refused help. He said: "It was a specific case on behalf of a constituent about bringing a relative from Pakistan over to Scotland. All I needed was some information and to find out how they go about it.

"But when I rang the hotline they would not talk to me. The woman said, 'We're only allowed to talk to MPs'.

"Any time I have had a problem with immigration I have phoned the MPs' hotline and they have always been very helpful.

"Indeed, I remember the first time I phoned, the woman asked if I was an MP and I said 'No, I'm something much more important – I'm an MSP'. We had a good laugh and she was happy to give me the information I needed. It seems someone has suddenly decided MSPs are second-class citizens."

A Home Office spokesman claimed the policy had always been to restrict the hotline to MPs. He could not explain why Mr Pringle's previous calls had been accepted.

He said individuals with concerns about immigration and asylum should always go to see their MP rather than an MSP.

Phil Taylor, regional director of the UK Border Agency in Scotland and Northern Ireland, said: "Immigration is a matter reserved to the UK Government and Westminster parliament.

"Constituents can continue to raise any concerns and have their cases represented by their Westminster MP.

"This position concerns constituency correspondence via letter or MPs' inquiry line only. We will continue to engage with all levels of government, as we would any interested party, on general or policy issues."





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  • Last Updated: 05 November 2009 9:53 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Jo Public,

05/11/2009 11:34:27
"immigration is a Westminster responsibility "

How odious to have another country decide who you can bring in to your own country.
2

Mikey,

05/11/2009 12:04:54
How true! Unfortunately, there are some people on here that are so thoroughly brainwashed by Westminster that they will lie through their teeth to remain a second class citizen.
3

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 05/11/2009 12:21:30
Very true,Westminster only kid us on that we have a say in any matters.
4

Johnny Yen,

05/11/2009 12:27:41
God help us if the joke that is the SNP ever get that amount of control over our affairs. At the last check I was still a British citizen.
5

Thomas the Tank,

Edinburgh 05/11/2009 12:27:47
Sounds fair, as long as Wastemonster MP's are reminded that they shouldn't interfere in devolved issues. Al 'Badger-Face' Darling (formerly Transport Minister for England) is happy to hide behind that excuse when pressed about the Embra Tram Debacle.
6

Jo Public,

05/11/2009 12:34:30
#4. The way your government is flooding the country with immigrants you best enjoy your 'British Citizenship' while it lasts. In a few years time you will be in the minority.
7

Philip Thompson,

Morningside 05/11/2009 12:50:42
Who'd go to see a Liberal Democrat if they wanted something done? Surely they'd want a party that had some sort of influence somewhere. Mike Pringle just likes getting his name in the paper. He clearly needs some basic training in the constitution and what are and aren't devolved issues... seeing as his job involves dealing with the latter.

Aren't the SNP the ones who want MORE immigration? They don't think our country is being filled up fast enough.

Anyway, pretty soon we won't have any say whatsoever and it'll all be controlled at a European level - and you'll need to phone a helpline in Romania.
8

Ecto,

05/11/2009 13:11:32
If it is a helpline for MP's why is this monkey ringing it as he is not an MP?
9

David55,

05/11/2009 13:39:07
It does seem a bit petty, but being a politician he should be used to pettiness.Can't Mike Pringle just forward the query to the local MP?

This is a pretty weak story. The EEN must have been struggling for news. Couldn't they just rehash a tram story?
10

Wee Keef,

05/11/2009 13:39:34
#6 If you checked any facts you'd know that the Scottish Government wants more immigrants to come to Scotland than other parts of the UK.

And Mike Pringle needs to get a life. He'd complain fast enough if a Westminster MP was trying to use Scottish Parliament facilties for an issue which had been devolved.
11

Mrs Alex Pinkfoot,

05/11/2009 14:10:12
#10.
Agreed,If Mike Pringle only wanted to get some info on how to get a constituents relative into the UK a quick visit to www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.ukwould have sufficed.

Instead he was trying to be the flash git (look at me I have a hot-line to God)an go short shrift.
12

Mrs Alex Pinkfoot,

05/11/2009 14:11:02
Sorry; and got short shrift.
13

dyon gollins's back,

Den Haag 05/11/2009 14:54:38
So much for co-operation between the england-shire govt. and the constituent parts of the disunited kingdom. Don't the Home Office know that they have responsibilities throughout that place and not just to those sitting in westminster?? It's all about making life difficult now to force thae Scooties back into line!! 'Cap in hand'?!
14

FreddieIII,

05/11/2009 14:59:12
"The hotline was introduced in 2001 so MPs could phone up about questions brought to them by constituents."

So the constituents should contact their local MP and not their MSP - as the meerkat says, Simples
15

NittonLover,

Newtongrange 05/11/2009 15:27:49
#16 - Reading your post I wonder just who is the thicko???

He was only wanting some info, not as if a helplne set up to service for only 650 MPs couldn't cope with a few extra enquires from elected representatives.



16

It's me!,

05/11/2009 17:02:08
The SNP could normally count on my vote but ...... their immigration policy worries me.
17

LUVMACITY,

IN THE LOBBY 05/11/2009 19:22:05
There is no such thing as a British citizen. We are all British subjects. Like it or lump it.
18

BROONISDOOMED,

05/11/2009 20:29:35
want to see the result of 75 years of labour mps being always voted in ,in glasgow ,watch this
they may be glaswegians ,but they are human beings and deserve better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kls37DqxjG8&feature=fvw
19

JC1,

Glasgow 05/11/2009 22:11:55
#1- We are all citizens of the UK, so what are you on about?
20

Euan404,

Edinburgh 06/11/2009 10:57:46
Rather a shame to see that it's apparently beyond Mike Pringles to refer his constituent on to Nigel Griffiths (the Edinburgh South MP).
21

Thomas the Tank,

Edinburgh 06/11/2009 18:46:07
Mike Pringle - 'Second-class' MSP - couldn't have put it better myself!

 

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