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Parents await green light on £200,000 junction upgrade

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Published Date: 03 November 2009
ROADS bosses are set to spend £200,000 upgrading a dangerous junction after a spate of accidents in recent years.
Traffic lights are set to be installed at the junction of West Savile Terrace and Mayfield Road following a campaign by locals and parents at the nearby Sciennes Primary School.

There have been 18 crashes at the site in the past ten years, many
involving cyclists, although only a handful were serious.

Parents at the school have been campaigning for the past four years for the lights, and will get their way if councillors back a recommendation by officials.

Norman Brown, chairman of the school's parent council, said the measure had the support of the vast majority of parents at the school.

He said: "Most parents will be really happy to see the lights go in, although there are some worries that some adjoining streets could turn into rat runs.

"It's been an issue that as children get to the later stages of primary school, parents still feel unable to let them walk to school alone because of the junction." However, local Tory councillor Cameron Rose said there were other measures the council could take to improve safety which would cost a fraction of the price.

He said: "At the moment, what is on the table is probably the most expensive option and it does not address other issues about the stop/start of traffic and the increased pollution it will cause. There are also other downsides, which taken together mean there are better alternatives.

"This is about local shops and businesses as well and it's more about cycling because it's cyclists who have taken the hit in terms of casualties."

He said alternatives included improving road signs and realigning the junction, both of which would cost considerably less than installing traffic lights.

A council spokesman said: "Residents and businesses have been consulted on the proposals and a report will go before the transport, infrastructure and environment committee on 24 November."

Last year community campaigners fighting for pedestrian crossings on dangerous roads were told they may have to wait up to 85 years.

Council chiefs admitted they only had enough cash to install or upgrade three crossings a year, meaning that at the current rate of progress, roads at the bottom of the priority list will not be tackled until the end of this century.

More than 250 roads in the city have been identified by campaigners and local politicians as being in need of pedestrian crossings, and the council is slowly working through the list.





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  • Last Updated: 03 November 2009 10:12 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Edinburgh Council
 
1

Serious,

03/11/2009 12:16:20
This junction is no where near Sciennes Primary. Wtf?
2

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 03/11/2009 12:27:20
Our roads are fine,its the cyclists that cause all the problems.
3

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03/11/2009 12:37:41
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03/11/2009 12:42:43
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Road Raga,

EDINBURGH 03/11/2009 12:44:20
Just waiting for the usual ignorant anti cyclist rants.....oops I see they have already started.
Oh, and remember cyclists don't pay road tax.
6

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 03/11/2009 12:47:37
Yet another triumph of nanny-state-ist buffoonery over common sense.

Have we GOT £200,000 to throw away in this manner? No. We haven't. So let people learn how to use road properly or face the consequences.
7

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 03/11/2009 12:48:29
#5:

The only anti-social idiot here is you.
8

CityStroller,

Edinburgh 03/11/2009 13:12:53
#5 The accidents typically involve downhill cyclists and turning vehicles, with surprisingly few pedestrian incidents. This suggests the speed junkies have two wheels.
9

Incandescent,

03/11/2009 13:13:32
Fuel Head - don't you recognise our old pal Jenny at #5?
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Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 03/11/2009 13:28:15
#10:

Ah Yes! Now you come to mention it, I do.
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Duncan in Edinburgh,

03/11/2009 14:51:20
The usual dialogue of the deaf continues here I see.

First of all, this certainly is a junction in need of improvement, because it has become busier and busier in recent years, not least as the result of the explosion of new housing in that area, but also as a short-cut route avoiding West Mains Road and the Lady Road not-a-roundabout-any-more which has slowed down traffic through Esslemont Road.

Second, it really isn't that close to Sciennes Primary, though I can understand that if they have a significant number of children coming from the other side of the junction they might be concerned. Nonetheless I think the bigger issue is traffic, not pedestrians.

Third, the main problem with the junction is visibility up the road to the right for people pulling out onto Mayfield Road; and the most common failing is that motor vehicle drivers don't see cyclists coming down the hill at relatively fast speeds (fast for a bike, but usually within the 30mph limit) and pull out into their path.

To blame the cyclists for this is moronic. But the junction should be improved to ensure that better sightlines are available to traffic emerging onto the road; and car drivers should be made to take more time to check for risk before pulling out.

There's no obvious need for a traffic light here, but there is a need for drivers to improve their standards before someone loses their life.
12

Incandescent,

03/11/2009 15:00:08
Talking of "dialogue of the deaf", that featured site still isn't working. Maybe better to devote some time to removing the link than calling others "moronic" on here, eh?
13

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03/11/2009 15:01:31
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Duncan in Edinburgh,

03/11/2009 15:02:30
#13 I have no earthly idea of what you are on about, my irritable friend. Why not just stick to the subject of the article rather than harassing me over something clearly nothing whatsoever to do with me?
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Incandescent,

03/11/2009 15:09:36
#15 No earthly idea, indeed. :-) Oh, I think you do.
16

Mallory,

Edinburgh 03/11/2009 16:02:18
Take bicyclists off the road - problem solved without spending a penny.
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Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 03/11/2009 17:16:18
I partly agree with Duncan. Of course everyone should be continually improving their skills on the road. Also, bear in mind the fact that car drivers are not going to see cyclists unless the cyclists give them time to.

Belting down a hill with head down, iPod headphones on and bike in 18th gear is not conducive to being easily spotted by motorists. I learnt a long time ago that on a motorbike, you are not entirely blameless if someone pulls out in front of you if you happen to be doing in excess of 100mph past the junction in the first place. You need to give others a chance to see you, rather than just appearing from nowhere.

I realise that the speed of these bikes is well below 100mph---at least I hope it is. Otherwise I want to know where they get the push bikes from and what they eat! ...but push bikes are not the easiest things to spot so common sense would dictate that they slow down on approach to the junction rather than attempting to negotiate it at full speed.

More care is needed all round---spending £200,000 on nanny state measures that will serve only to increase congestion is not.
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Cauld Lad Hylton,

Borders 03/11/2009 19:17:51

I wish we could get this lot down to the A766 Penicuik to A702 road - It has its own built in speeding restrictions acquired after many years of total neglect - apparently the Army are considering using it for tank proving trials.

Hope someone with a voice in Midlothian Council is reading this !!!!!

Nil Desperandum
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CityStroller,

Edinburgh 05/11/2009 10:38:22
I went by this junction last night at it is clear the problem is that the cars emerge with their line of sigh obscured by a slight curve and parked vehicles at the foot of a hill where cyclists may be going at twice normal speed. A stop sign and restricted parking would be appropriate. As would cyclists showing the same caution approaching a tricky junction as is expected of all road users.

 

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