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Elderly people 'to be worst hit by post office closures'



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Published Date: 29 August 2008
ELDERLY people without bank accounts will be the worst hit by Royal Mail's post office closure plans in Edinburgh, an MSP warned today.
Scottish Nationalist Ian McKee said many older people, especially those on low incomes, used the Post Office to collect their benefits and pay their utility bills because they did not have bank accounts.

He highlighted four post offices earmarked
for closure where such transactions made up around half or more of the business.

He said bills and benefits accounted for 48 per cent of the 973 transactions per week at Gorgie post office, 62 per cent of the total of 643 transactions at Calder Crossway and around 50 per cent of the 726 transactions at Longstone. At Poltonhall, Midlothian, bills and benefits made up as much as 68 per cent of its 631 transactions.

Dr McKee said: "If someone is queuing up at the post office every week to get their benefits, it implies they don't have a bank account – and the same goes for bill payments."

He said the Post Office had to consider its social responsibility. "When you are going to cause a great deal of inconvenience and difficulty to the people who are the most vulnerable in society, you need to think again.

"The very least they should do is organise some alternative facility – even once a week would help."

Ex-miner Edward Mellor, 63, uses the post office in Poltonhall, to collect his benefit and pay his gas and electricity bills. "I've got emphysema and spondilitis and I have to use a walking frame," he said. The post office is just 300 yards down the road – it takes me a wee while to get down, but it gets me out. If it closes I will have to get the bus to Bonnyrigg."

Mr Mellor said the post office in Rosewell had already shut and now the one in Lasswade was due to close as well as Poltonhall.

"All these people are going to be descending on Bonnyrigg. Is it going to be like Wimbledon, with us having to camp out in tents in the queue?" he added.

A total of 13 Edinburgh post offices are recommended for closure along with three in West Lothian, four in Midlothian and two in East Lothian.

An Age Concern spokesman said most older people saw the post office as a lifeline, with many relying on it as a "one-stop shop" for cash, benefits and paying bills.

A spokesman said: "Further cuts to the network risk leaving many vulnerable older people socially isolated and struggling to access essential services."

A spokesman for Help the Aged added: "A lot of people use the post office to get their pension and benefits, not just because it's close, but because it's a social hub and they meet a lot of friends there."

A Post Office spokeswoman said: "The UK Government has made it quite clear we need to return the Post Office network back into profit and they have already made the decision that 2500 post offices across the UK have to close.

"Post Office Ltd is following strict access criteria laid down by the UK Government, where in urban areas 99 per cent of the population should be within a mile of a post office.

"Part of the consultation which is currently running for six weeks is to hear from customers on any issues they may have on how they will be disadvantaged in accessing alternative services."





The full article contains 588 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 29 August 2008 10:37 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

alex paterson,

edinburgh 29/08/2008 12:07:25
So what is stopping the wrinklies from opening a bank account.
2

Sister Morag,

Birmingham 29/08/2008 12:20:16
#1 Indeed - why don't the elderly open an account at the Lasswade bank?

Oh, hold on, I forgot. There isn't one...

3

Steven P,

edinburgh 29/08/2008 12:36:35
There really is nothing quite like a moaning pensioner.
Makes you want to close even more Post Offices.
4

"Hoots" Fandango,

29/08/2008 12:51:20
Do banks sell stamps?
5

"Hoots" Fandango,

29/08/2008 12:52:03
If I take a parcel to the bank, will they post it?
6

"Hoots" Fandango,

29/08/2008 12:53:34
How about forms for car tax, car licences, passport forms? Will the banks arrange this?
7

elayne,

29/08/2008 12:54:07
#4 aye,ever been stuck behind one in a queue,grrrrrr(sorry old folks!)
8

Grouchy,

Edinburgh 29/08/2008 12:57:45
Has anyone bothered to ask the Sub Postmasters if they want to continue that side of their business?





9

"Hoots" Fandango,

29/08/2008 12:58:23
elayne

You're not really sorry are you? I'd rather be stuck behind a pensioner than somebody with a greetin' faced wean in a pram moaning they can't get on a bus..
10

"Hoots" Fandango,

29/08/2008 12:58:54
Post offices should be allowed to sell tram tickets.
11

"Hoots" Fandango,

29/08/2008 12:59:32
... and marijuana.
12

Peedie Paws,

Edinburgh 29/08/2008 12:59:51
#1 - why should they open up a bank account? They've probably been with the post office since they were young and its what they're used to. Banks charge you nowadays for using other bank's cash machines or for being overdrawn. Post offices don't! And remember, a lot of those old "wrinklies" as you call them, would probably struggle to remember a 4 digit pin number.
13

"Hoots" Fandango,

29/08/2008 13:02:42
How about the post office giros?

Solution. Banks to take over post offices.
Keep one counter open for post office business.
14

Boy Wonder,

29/08/2008 13:31:51
#14. You make a good point, Hoots ... combine post office facilities with banks? Most communities have 2 or 3 banks on the same street. Well, they do in the city anyway ... except in housing schemes where the POs would be missed most!
15

Niko Bellic,

Ossining (USA) 29/08/2008 13:51:12

I mind the auld days when you could go tae the Poast Oaffice and buy a fish supper and get change out of a fiver.

Ah, naw that was the chippie wasn't it. They should stoap closin aw these chippies the auld yins need the facilities, ken.

But these young yins at the chippie just urny trained proaperly. Ah says to the lassie at the chippie, "I'd like to open a savings account" she just looked at me like a was some kind ay eejit, ken.
16

elayne,

29/08/2008 14:01:34
#10 i dont have a prob with old folks,greetin faced weans,well its not there fault either,but aye it does annoy me when some tracky clad heifer with 20 kids gets on the bus,planks her fat @rse down and the kids start playing up and she starts shouting and swearing causing a chain reaction,get the picture?
17

"Hoots" Fandango,

29/08/2008 14:12:23
17

Stop making fun of my neighbour.
18

Niko Bellic,

Great Junction Street 29/08/2008 14:13:45

#17 a chain reaction, eh? Was she doing experiments with plutonium as well as shouting and swearing?
19

Nikostratos,

29/08/2008 14:29:37
Post offices everybody loves em nobody uses them.If more people went to the post office more often and bought the products they sell there would be no need to close them.

If you wanna blame someone look in the mirror.yeah you
20

Niko Bellic,

SARF LONDON 29/08/2008 14:40:23

#20 true, but who's going to buy a DVD of "White Noise" for £7 from the post office, when you can get it from Amazon Marketplace for like £0.77

21

The Judge,

29/08/2008 16:08:17
Why not invest in mobile post offices? They could be in the same place at the same time every day. You could even arrange for them to be near OAP lunch clubs ect.

Or is that too simple?
22

Xena - Warrior Princess,

29/08/2008 16:32:35
#1 I take it you don't count yourself as a "wrinklie"? Are you not the same Alex Paterson who sends in the jokes to the Evening News and is in his sixties? If that's no a wrinklie I don't know what is.
23

elayne,

29/08/2008 16:57:44
#18 aw thats not nice,poor lassie "cant help"having an @rse the size of a carthorse
#19 the chain reaction is caused by folk tut tutting,"about weans today"etc
24

Niko Bellic,

New Kirkgate Lidl 29/08/2008 17:06:41

#24 "Weans" - so this scenario didn't take place in Edinburgh by the sound of it - Livingston, maybe, or Glasgow?

25

elayne,

29/08/2008 19:09:41
it happens everywhere!
26

Peter Edwards,

Stoke upon Trent 29/08/2008 21:59:16
To all those "SCOTS" who do not have compassion for their elderly, I say shame on you all, hope your Sporran@s drops off.

Never used to bother me either, now suddenly I am one of the elderly and it is no joke. only thankful I live just across from a secure PO.Yes I do have a bank account, but you can't get recorded delivery or post a parcel. Wise up.

Remember, it will be your turn
27

celtic4,

USA 30/08/2008 02:11:33
Wake up and smell the tea, all of you making fun of the elderly. You'll be groaning and moaning too, because your turn's coming. Wish I could be around to see that!
28

juan_r,

30/08/2008 02:25:08
I think the important quote from this story is "A lot of people use the post office to get their pension and benefits, not just because it's close, but because it's a social hub and they meet a lot of friends there."

Oh, right! It's about old folks meeting their friends! Now I am convinced. The financial drains have to stay. I am desperate to subsidise failing businesses because they allow old people who have nothing else to do all day a chance to gather in one place and meet each other!

How would a bank or corner store not serve the same purpose? Even better, a bank miles away....Think of the social aspect of them all getting on the same bus to go to the bank!

I could understand the complaints if they had to pay for the bus journey, but I'm pretty sure I subsidise that as well and they travel for free these days!!!
29

juan_r,

30/08/2008 02:29:15
Thanks for that, Celtic4 from the USA!

If you had a social conscience, you wouldn't be staying over the pond, you'd be over here paying excessive taxes and helping to subsidise things like the loss making Post Offices....

Pay Tax here or shut up...
30

Vote UKIP,

30/08/2008 22:34:26
Wake up you lot!

Post Office Closures (EU Directives 97/67/EC, 2002/39/EC)

The Lib-Lab-SNP-Con aren't going to help you.

 

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