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Drivers hail first toll-free day of crossing Forth bridge



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Published Date: 11 February 2008
DRIVERS began their first toll-free Monday morning commute across the Forth Road Bridge today.
Fees were officially scrapped on the Forth and Tay bridges at one minute past midnight, although toll collectors actually stood down at around 11.20pm.

Transport minister Stewart Stevenson signed the historic order last month, marking the end to m
ore than 40 years of fees since both bridges opened in the 1960s.

Lorraine Cleverly, 45, from Inverkeithing, Fife, was the first to cross the bridge for free as she drove home from work at Tesco in South Queensferry.

And later today, Finance Secretary John Swinney was set to join Mr Stevenson on an open top bus ride across the bridge.

However, drivers have been warned to expect queues during the evening rush hour for the next few days as people get used to the new system.

Neil Greig, the Scottish policy manager for the Institute of Advanced Motorists, said: "There is bound to be some congestion on Monday and the first few days as people get used to the new changeover.

"This is the same with any new road layout or roadworks, but I think it will settle down quite quickly. I don't think there will be any long-lasting congestion as a result of these changes."

A two-lane carriageway has been created from the M9 Spur and the A90 through the toll plaza, and the rest of the booths and the canopy will be removed over the coming months.

Despite the warnings of short-term congestion, drivers have welcomed the fact that they can now drive across the bridge for free.

Yvonne Meddell, a 29-year-old finance manager who commutes from Edinburgh to Fife five days a week, said she is set to save almost £200 a year.

She said: "The cut in tolls will save me £192 per year, which with the current increase in fuel prices, will be useful."

And Murray Souter, a 39-year-old restaurateur who also travels from the Capital to Fife each day, said the move was long overdue.

He said: "I used to drive over the bridge but the excessive congestion at the tolls resulted in me ditching my car and getting the train. The queues to pay for the crossing were ludicrous and it would often take me an hour and 15 minutes minimum to drive 15 miles."

The work to remove the booths will cost £1 million, and comes 18 months after bridge bosses spent £5m on upgrading the toll collection points.

A spokesman for the National Alliance Against Tolls (NAAT) said: "It has been a long fight to remove the tolls and we are delighted that Scotland will again be a toll free nation.

"This will not only be a boost for the immediate area of the tolls, it will also enable Scotland as a toll free nation to attract more inward investment and tourists."





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  • Last Updated: 11 February 2008 11:13 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Forth Bridges
 
1

mrmoneypenny,

11/02/2008 12:10:14
According to labour and the greens, 100,000 more people wil travel per hour, just to save £1, emiisions will cause a massive hole in the atmosphere above the bridge, which will allow more sunshine to hit the bridge, burning the cables causing the bridge to collapse into the forth, thus raising the sea level, flooding Queensferry.
2

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11/02/2008 12:19:29
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3

an interested party,

11/02/2008 12:19:50
no 1

none of that is a disadvantage :-)

but yeahs free bridge travel will clearly be the end of us, nowt to do with Grangemouth spewing its daily pollution
4

Daft Old Git,

11/02/2008 12:37:18
I spent most of the night driving back and forward over the bridge to take advantage of this free trip and did not notice any great congestion
5

Jakey Rowling,

11/02/2008 12:47:03
4.
That's because it was nightime, some people are so daft.
6

Daft Old Git,

11/02/2008 12:54:33
I'll check out the Tay Bridge tonight. I reckon if I make twenty crossings I'll have saved enough to pay for my petrol
7

Saintee,

Edinburgh 11/02/2008 13:09:53
Yes, the doomsayers do keep saying that this will increase traffic going over the bridge. How exactly is that possible when they keep telling us that it is already over capacity. If anyone can tell me a way to get more cars over the bridge than can currently manage between 6:30 and 9:30 every morning, then I would suggest that person is a genius and that a new bridge is not, therefore required.

And while we are at it. How, exactly, is a new bridge with only two lanes each way going to be an improvement? I would have thought it needed 4 lanes each way (given that the current bridge is supposed to be falling down).

(Incidentally, am I the only person to notice that the traffic has actually decreased on the bridge over the last few years?)
8

me150,

11/02/2008 13:22:07
Why is everyone banging on about increases or decreases in traffic.

Surely a more important issue is exactly where is the money going to come from to maintain the bridge and exactly what is being cut elsewhere to make it possible....education?

How on earth will we ever see the new bridge and will SNP idiots pay to maintain that as well...will they close hospitals or cut back on staff so they can afford to do it?
9

Bill MacD,

11/02/2008 13:34:09
Fabulous. MORE traffic in town. If people want to work here, they should live here.
10

FeedTheDug,

11/02/2008 13:44:55
I vote for introducing a new Trebuchet form of crossing.

Certainly brighten up the morning commute!
11

WalkTheLine,

Edinburgh 11/02/2008 14:13:41
As much as I'm glad to see the end of the tolls, I would like to say a personal thank you to the folks which collected the tolls. I was always amazed how cheerful and friendly you always remained when you must have got so much abuse from motorists which blamed you for hold ups, toll charges and any other problem which they would try and blame you for.

Outstanding professionalism, Thank you and all the best for the future.
12

Celtic Fan Steven,

The Great Waste -rn Road. 11/02/2008 14:15:06
A great waste of Public money. How many millions putting in new tolls, how many more, taking them out. What exactly has been achieved here????
13

ecky,

newcastle 11/02/2008 14:26:08
whish they would do same with tyne tunnel £1.20 each way its a disgrace mind u it pays for there is allways lots o staff on site doing nowt
14

ednbru,

11/02/2008 14:30:15
Hope the Labour and Tory supporters, are not using this FREE service.
15

The Judge,

11/02/2008 14:38:24
#12 What has been achieved here is equality, New Labour gave their friends in the west free crossing of the Erskine Bridge its only fair that the people in the east are afforded the same rights.

It should have happened decades ago as promised.
16

Duncan in Edinburgh,

11/02/2008 14:51:34
Again we have that utterly unqualified statement from Neil Greig that there will be no "long-lasting congestion as a result of these changes". When he is proved wrong, will someone go back and challenge him?
17

scottishcoffindodgerno1,

Edinburgh 11/02/2008 15:08:44
say no to congestion charges in Glasgow.heard Wendy in the parli the other day.she to blaim the Snp for her fiasco
18

Aye Right...,

11/02/2008 15:58:38
The loony liberals want to put greenways on the bridge. Two lanes each way....
19

The Daleks,

11/02/2008 16:06:40
About time too.

Once again our political masters treated us with contempt and carried on levying tolls long after the bridge had been bought and paid for. Although they had promised not to.

It took a responsive government in the form of the SNP to abolish this insulting rip off.

Well done Alex & Co.
20

Joe,

North Tower 11/02/2008 16:30:08
#1.. How come the Erskine Bridge hasn't collapsed yet?
21

Gorgie_Tony,

Edinburgh 11/02/2008 16:40:11
Removing the tolls is obviously going to cause a massive increase in pollution. Look at some of the posters on here - number 4 spent all night driving backwards and forwards over the bridge - completely unnecessary - and what damage has he caused to the planet with all his vehicle emissions? As soon as Salmond announced the removal of the tolls I said it would result in traffic congestion and extra pollution. No doubt the NHS will bear the brunt of the removal of the tolls due to an increase in people suffering from the effects of the extra vehicle emissions - so no doubt taxes will be increased again. Roll on the next election and its cheerio Alex.
22

D Napier,

11/02/2008 16:54:11
#19. Don't you realise that this bridge, and others have to be maintained????

If anything the Forth and Tay Bridge tolls were a bargain at £1 and 80p respectively.

I could understand the problem if the tolls were set at the level of those on the Severn Bridge at £5.30, but £1.00!!!!! Get serious.

Even if you used the bridge 5 days a week for work to cost would be less than 20 cigarettes or 2 pints of beer. Anyone who drives a car and can't afford that shouldn't have a car in the first place.

The SNP may have removed the tolls but where is the money going to come from to pay for this??? What other services are going to suffer to pay for this madness?
23

Incandescent,

11/02/2008 17:11:23
#21 Now, Tony, I told you to shut it. You're making a fool of yourself.
24

Incandescent,

11/02/2008 17:13:35
#22 Hey there DN. To answer your question: probably the vast tolls on the new bridge, which you'll be forced to use once the existing bridge is turned over exclusively to buses.
25

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11/02/2008 17:45:20
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Daily user,

Queensferry 11/02/2008 17:55:14
When will all the Numpties who complain that it was only £1 to cross, and that Bridge Maintenance has to be funded somehow, just shut up and think?

For goodness sake, it's just another bit of road; surely we pay enough for roads maintenance through the Road Fund Licence, Fuel taxation and V.A.T. !

Since I was fortunate enough to be offered a job and started to work in Dunfermline 5 years ago, I have been additionaly 'TAXED' in excess of £1000 to commute. Please, don't you whingers dare suggest that I should have re-located. Not really a viable option.

Also, how the hell can removal of the tolls increase congestion ? NUMPTIES
27

Gorgie_Tony,

Edinburgh 11/02/2008 18:06:04
#26 - why should I pay for your journeys across the bridge? I have never used the thing, and will certainly never use it. But as a tax payer, I am now burdened with the cost of the maintenance of the bridge. If car drivers want to use it, they should pay for it - not the members of public who will never use it.
28

Charles MN,

11/02/2008 18:08:35
#22

They may have been a bargain if they hadn't already been paid for many times. Once by the £250 million pounds already collected in tolls ( for a bridge that cost £20 million to build). Then of course there is fuel tax , VED, VAT on cars.... all of which add up to about £42Bn ( compared to the £8Bn spent on the roads).
29

Daily user,

Queensferry 11/02/2008 18:10:57
#27
With that kind of logic, surely if I don't use schools, swimming pools, public libraries, subsidised public transport etc.,; I should receive a refund in my council tax.
30

Daily user,

Queensferry 11/02/2008 18:15:25
#27
...cat got your tongue ?
31

Gorgie_Tony,

Edinburgh 11/02/2008 18:22:00
#30 - I agree about having to pay for schools etc if you don't use them - so I am sure you will agree with my view that the tolls should never have been removed as it meant only those that use the facility pay for it?
32

Daily user,

Queensferry 11/02/2008 18:29:43
#31
Nicely done Gorgie_Tony but, I maintain that the bridge is merely a road which happens to cross water. We (that includes general income tax payers)already pay significantly for our roads and should not have to pay extra to cross water; be it the Water of Leith, the Cramond or the Forth estuary !
33

feta man,

Edinburgh 11/02/2008 18:35:22
#26

I'm afraid you're the only numpty here! Toll removal will lead to approximately 20%+ increase in traffic. It has always been bridge capacity, not the tolls, which has caused traffic holdup. More traffic into two lanes already congested leads to longer delays. QED.
34

Daily user,

queensferry 11/02/2008 18:40:21
#33
Show us the statistics to support your assertion. B.T.W. as a daily user for over five years, I can assure you that im my experience, the congestion has always been caused by the Tolls Northbound, and by the A8000 Southbound. Are you a regular user of the bridge at peak periods ?
35

Daily user,

Queensferry 11/02/2008 18:50:39
#33
C'mon feta man; show us your evidence!
36

Charles MN,

11/02/2008 18:52:52
#33
I am a bit confused. You say that it the bridge is capacity limited at the moment yet there is space for another 5000 round trips.

Could you expalin where these 5000 vehicles are going to come from. With the opening of the (free) new Kincardine Bridge soon to make that an attractive option for some drivers and the fact that the Forth bridge traffic has not increased in the last few years it seems unlikely that just removing the £1 toll will cause thousands of drivers a day to divert accross the Forth Bridge.
37

Daily user,

Queensferry 11/02/2008 19:42:05
I rest my case ....Good Evening.
38

firhill,

11/02/2008 20:00:04


What a tacky spectacle (the open top bus & ridiculous press call).

This must be what the SNP MSP's said by the staff must be treated with dignity and respect!
39

Arrow,

edinburgh 11/02/2008 20:21:26
the former Chancer of the Exchequer is raising the TAX of fuel soon. that it is to keep traffic off the road and pay for pollution cuased by cars/lorries etc is all crap. it is to find ways of paying for the war, keeping the northern Roak shareholders ("the value of your shares can go up as well as down") afloat with £2000 per skull.
and to say that people were put off crossing the bridge because it cost £1 is nonsense. generally it was the time consuming delays at the tolls and those half empty buses on the part-time greenways. is it not beyond the wit of man to allow non-rush hour traffic on these routes (although having said that the number of drivers not using the bus lanes when they can is frightening. they don't read the signs!!) the roads and bridges should be paid out of the road tax paid by motorists and business.
40

Sandy Sievwright,

Penicuik 11/02/2008 22:15:54
Having used the bridge since the day it opened this must be a real achievement.well done SNP> tolls are an English thing we don't pay toll charges on anything else in Scotland. Why would it increase congestion--will people buy a car simply to drive for free over the toll free bridges of Scotland? -of course not! More people are choosing to live in Fife--now that may cause increased congestion but thats another story and mainly to do with cost and availability. in all the years I have used the bridge the problems with congestion are more to do with the old slip road to the A8000 now sorted! the two lanes on the northside of the bridge dont suffer from standing traffic do they? So the problems not congestion0--just crap highways! WELL DONE MR SALMOND AND ALL!! LABOUR NEVER WORKED-- OLD OR NEW!
41

COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 11/02/2008 22:17:52
now you are going to have toll highways/CAN.USA
42

D Napier,

11/02/2008 22:56:11
#38. Well said. The SNP need to realise VERY quickly that being in power is not the same as being in opposition.

They still seem to find this as a bit of a novelty and need to grow up.

The Government's own advisors told them that the economy of Fife would benefit more from the diretion injection of cash which is being spent on the removal of the tolls rather than removing the tolls themselves.

Of course, we all know what the SNP think of professional advise - they just ignore it and do their own thing.

43

Julian,

EDINBURGH 11/02/2008 23:04:40
exocet # 25,

Apart from the fact this has nothing to do with the article are you not pre-judging the findings of the tour? I suspect the guy organising it has the same agenda, ie. reverse the smoking restrictions.

And how many times must I tell you guys; we have a cannabis ban, a heroin ban, a cocaine ban and numerous others but we do not have a smoking ban.
44

Julian,

EDINBURGH 11/02/2008 23:10:56
Daily User # 37,

I think the argument for tolls is that it cost around 20 times to build a bridge than it does to build a road the same length so those using this overly expensive piece of road should pay a bit extra.

I do agree though that road users pay plenty of tax anyway although I suppose the argument for that is that it is a green tax to help pay for more environmentally friendly modes of transport.

 

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