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Drink-drivers caught on city roads down 40% in ten years



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Published Date: 15 May 2008
THE number of drink-drivers caught on the Capital's roads has dropped by 40 per cent in the last ten years, according to new figures published today.
Despite an increase in the number of motorists stopped and breathalysed over the past decade, police chiefs are catching fewer people over the limit.

In 1997-98, 780 were caught drink-driving on the city's roads, but this had fallen to 471 by l
ast year. Police chiefs today said the drop was welcome but warned the figures did not include the growing problem of drug drivers, or those tested at police stations instead of the roadside.

Motoring groups today welcomed the drop in drink-drivers but called for more random police stops to increase the fear of getting caught.

Superintendent Alan Duncan, of Lothian and Borders Police's road policing unit, said: "The statistics show a downward trend and that is to be welcomed. We would hope the majority of people are heeding the message when it comes to drink-driving.

"Some of our big successes have been during our festive roadside programme, when we have been able to get to speak to drivers and talk to them about the risks involved."

Statistics released by the Scottish Government show the downward trend in drink-drivers stopped by police is mirrored across the Lothians. Only East Lothian recorded an increase, up from 98 in 1997-98 to 110 in 2006-07.

Neil Greig, head of policy in Scotland for the Institute of Advanced Motorists, said: "This ties in with the long-term trends of most other road-safety statistics in that we are seeing a steady decline.

"The concern will be if these statistics reach a plateau and we still have this hardcore minority ignoring all the warnings.

"The move last year to breathalyse anyone stopped for a motoring offence is to be welcomed, but I still think the chances of getting caught in the UK are relatively low.

"If we are to make inroads into the number of people still drink-driving I think we do need to look again at the limits. We also need to look at increasing the fear of getting caught drink-driving, with more police patrols stopping drivers."

All drivers in Scotland are now breathalysed if they are stopped for any motoring offence. The policy has been in place in the Lothian and Borders area for a number of years, but came into force across Scotland last December.

The UK currently has a driving limit of 80 milligrammes of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood, unlike most other European Union countries which have a limit of 50mg.

Bruce Young, Lothian and Borders co-ordinator of the Association of British Drivers, said: "There is obviously a greater awareness of the problem these days but it would be interesting to know how many of those caught were either just over or well over the limit."

www.thinkroadsafety.gov.uk




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  • Last Updated: 15 May 2008 2:55 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

hibbyspurs,

15/05/2008 12:09:56
The last paragraph is nonsense.

Bruce Young, Lothian and Borders co-ordinator of the Association of British Drivers, said: "There is obviously a greater awareness of the problem these days but it would be interesting to know how many of those caught were either just over or well over the limit."

IT doesnt matter how much over you are if caught, you've broke thae law and the only way to tackle drink driving is zero tolerance.

I drive every day for work and do feel motorists are victimised at times in revenue raising excersises but this offence is one of the most anti social activities around.

The answer is simple, just dont do it.
2

badger464,

15/05/2008 12:17:40
caught being the operative word
3

calum,

15/05/2008 12:26:44
Can Superintendent Duncan advise us whether this remarkable and "welcome" drop bears any kind of relationship to the number of officers patrolling under the "Traffic" Department 10 years ago to the "road policing unit" now, and whether their priorities and objectives have changed. I think that would be relevant.
4

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

, Newington 15/05/2008 12:42:05
Drink Shame of Tommy Sheridan Impersonator
5

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 15/05/2008 12:54:59
"If we are to make inroads into the number of people still drink-driving I think we do need to look again at the limits."

No. All that will do is INCREASE the number of people caught. It will have absolutely no effect on road safety and will effectively criminalise millions of perfect safe drivers.

The number of breath tests carried out has probably reached a maximum. Without more police officers on the streets, we cannot increase this further. Leave the law as it is and increase the number of police.

#1:

"The last paragraph is nonsense."

No. You are talking nonsense. Read the last paragraph again and this time switch on your brain first. It IS relevent as to how many people were caught way over the limit as opposed to how many people were marginally over for the simple reason that those fugures indicate the number who are actively flouting the law, compared with those who simply made an error of judgement.

It would also be interesting to know how many were caught over the limit on a morning after as opposed to just after they had been drinking.
6

SBW,

Edinburgh 15/05/2008 13:25:34
Over the limit on the night = inability to drive properly / slower reactions = higher chances of being involved in an accident.

Over the limit the following morning = inability to drive properly / slower reactions = higher chances of being involved in an accident.

Best way to avoid "error of judgement" = don't drink at all if you're going to be driving.
7

Padraig,

15/05/2008 13:27:56
I dunno, Hibbyspurs (1) - I agree that no one should exceed the breath limit but isn't it relevant to know what proportion of those breath-tested are over the limit (it indicates the proportion of legal drivers inconvenienced)and also to know how much over the limit thos arrested are?

This would indicate the proportion of drivers who not only hold the law in contempt but would also flag up the incidence of "serious problem" drinkers on the roads.

Either way, we need more police on the roads to increase the likelihood of drunk drivers being apprehended - uncontrolled alcoholics who should not be driving at all are seduced by the low risk of actually being stopped.

And EU Pressure to reduce the limit from 80 to 50 are not based on medical evidence, as the UK 80 limit was.

What is the point of criminalising a driver whose ability to drive is not impaired?

(1) says the law is the law but it should be a soundly based law, as the current permitted level is. The EU's lower limit is not.
8

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15/05/2008 13:48:03
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Plodjfriss, Hammer of the Numpties,

Edinburgh 15/05/2008 16:07:17
When I saw the photo I thought that the policeman was feeding the guy a pint of Guinness. What sort of message is that to send drivers?
10

Cappo Del Monte,

15/05/2008 16:41:35
#5
Are you for real
"No. All that will do is INCREASE the number of people caught. It will have absolutely no effect on road safety and will effectively criminalise millions of perfect safe drivers."
If they are drinking thats the general idea plank
Or are you in your own small minded world now saying yipee let all drink drivers go and that drunk drivers are perfectly safe, check your above comment.
You really live in a dream world.
You really hate good laws, I hope you never have to suffer a friend , relative injured by a drunk driver or a speeding driver, now away and play with your tonka toys. Prat
11

cynicalm,

Edinburgh 15/05/2008 17:39:04
What would have been interesting would have been the percentage of drivers tested who were over the present limit. As the police obviously stopped the drivers for some reason, random testing is not allowed, it should then show whether the many campaigns have succeeded in influencing the average motorist. Most of the headline cases are of drivers several times over the limit and I fear that this would still happen with a lower limit.
12

Charles MN,

15/05/2008 18:49:42
#5
It may suprise you to learn but the drunker you are the more you are likely to have an accident. If you have 160mg/100ml BAC you are 25 times more likely to have an accident than if you are sober. There is no evidence, however, that those in the 50-80mg/100ml range have a substantially increased risk. It is not till about 100mg/100ml that the risk of having an accident starts to rise quickly. This is why the limit was set at 80mg/100ml.

If there is no increased risk then why prosecute them?


#11
See page 114 of:
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/Doc/204167/0054362.pdf

for figures after an accident. I can't lay my hands on any that don't involve accidents
13

Dragonlord,

15/05/2008 20:39:26
If the police spot a car weaving around the road, how can they be sure the driver is drunk, and not just avoiding the potholes?
14

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15/05/2008 20:44:23
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celtic4,

USA 16/05/2008 02:21:44
"Just over the limit or way over the limit"???? Are we joking here? Over the limit is over the limit and it can make for serious accidents on the roads with slower reaction times, etc. If you're anywhere over the limit, you're breaking the law! Duh.
16

James (1),

16/05/2008 09:05:07
#15 Correct! Its like saying did the man beat his wife severly or just slapped her about a bit. Wrong is wrong!
#10 Is this your first taste of the world according to fuel head? You ask a question "Are you real" and I have to say I don't think he is and if he is then I don't think he is sane!
He can drive better, stop quicker, blames others for accidents which they should have seen and prepared for. Speed cameras are the cause of accidents. He can drink and drive. The list of his skills behind the wheel of a car is endless. His world bares no resemblence to the real world.
17

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 16/05/2008 11:47:27
#10:

Cappo,

Are you naturally ignorant, or did you learn and practice it until you perfected the art?

You completely miss the point and your comment simply highlights your inability to think logically. There's no point in trying to explain things to you, you simply wouldn't understand.

Just go away and leave us all in peace until such time as you have something constructive to say without having to resort to insults to make your point.

 

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