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Published Date: 05 November 2009
CHILDREN at primaries threatened with closure could be at "significant risk" on the walk to their new schools, according to the city's senior health and safety adviser.
In a report which assessed the new routes children would have to take if their schools close, three were deemed to pose a risk to children walking on their own.

Parents with children at the closure-threatened schools today warned that if pupils we
re unable to travel to their new schools alone – as a lot of them currently do – it could have a serious knock-on effect on families.

One of the routes assessed by the council's senior health and safety adviser, Graham Anderson, as posing a "significant risk" to children walking without an adult is from Ardshiel Avenue to Clermiston Primary – which would affect pupils from the under-threat Drumbrae Primary.

Eric Jackson, chair of Drumbrae Primary's parent council, said: "It's very upsetting that the council are willing to put children at risk, and it is a significant risk according to the council's own admissions.

"At the moment, the majority of children that go to Drumbrae go to school on their own or with friends because it's a safe distance and safe route.

"This will mean that parents will be forced to drive their children to school.

"At Clermiston Primary it's dreadful in the morning with the number of cars so it will be even worse with the extra influx.

"Some parents would probably have to change their working patterns just to be able to take their kids to school."

As well as Drumbrae, the council is proposing to close Fort, Burdiehouse and Royston primary schools next summer.

The risk assessment has also flagged up problems for children travelling from Burdiehouse to Gilmerton Primary, a proposed receiving school.

Mr Anderson described it as "problematic", adding that it would be necessary to "consider additional measures to minimise any risks" when crossing Lasswade Road.

Another route, which would impact on Royston pupils travelling from Saltire Street to Granton Primary, was described as posing "significant risk" to unaccompanied children, especially at Waterfront Avenue.

Grant Cunningham, chair of Royston Primary's parent council, said: "We tried to highlight this at the public meetings and we were told we were being unrealistic.

"The council's own report is now even contradicting what they say.

"Most people won't be keen on their kids walking to school on their own. In life, everything has risks, but when it comes to kids you try not to put risks in their way."

City education leader Marilyne MacLaren said: "There will always be busy roads to cross in Edinburgh but we work very successfully with pupils, schools and parents to make the school journey as safe as possible.

"If these proposals go ahead, we will ensure that the crossings flagged up are made as safe as possible, with both Drumbrae Drive and Lasswade Road getting new pedestrian crossings."

'There is no way I'd let my son walk this route alone'
ERIC and Catherine Jackson walked one of the routes identified as being a "significant risk" to unaccompanied children with their seven-year-old son, Iain.

Iain is in P4 at Drumbrae and it currently takes him five minutes to walk to school.

The route for Drumbrae pupils travelling to Clermiston Primary starts on Ardshiel Avenue and took the family 30 minutes to walk.

The family reported a relatively straightforward walk until they got to Drumbrae Drive, which they described as very busy yesterday morning.

They crossed at a traffic island, which was highlighted by police as a potential danger given that it is close to a bus stop and motorists overtake buses.

Mr Jackson said Iain was "very unsure" about crossing such a busy road.

The council is proposing to put a pedestrian crossing on Drumbrae Drive, but Mr Jackson believes children won't use it as they would have to travel further down the road to get to it rather than taking the direct route across the road.

The family also raised concerns about children cutting through Clermiston Park – which the council also anticipates will happen.

Mr Jackson said: "It's unlit, there are lots of trees and bushes, so it's a safety issue, especially with the dark nights.

He added: "There is no way I would let my son walk this route on his own."





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  • Last Updated: 05 November 2009 9:48 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

eDUCATIon,

05/11/2009 12:06:38


Here we go again.....
2

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 05/11/2009 12:12:36
Make it safe for the kids going to school and keep everyone happy.
3

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 05/11/2009 12:20:04
For christs sake!

When we were kids, from the age of about 10 we walked to school. Once we'd passed our cycling proficiency test and had our bikes inspected, we were allowed to RIDE to school. Along the way, there were some fairly busy roads but we were taught how to deal with them. I can't think of any one of us who got killed or seriously injured walking or riding to school.

These idiots need to get a life. Health and Safety regulations were designed around REAL hazardous environments such as mines, ship yards, docks, railway sidings, factories and steelworks. They were not, never have been and never will be intended to be applied to kids walking to school. The fools a re making a mockery of a whole load of sensible and neccessary legislation and it's about time it stopped NOW!
4

totally indecent,

05/11/2009 12:23:53
What a load of cack. Granton primary is a two minute walk from Royston primary on the same road. So this makes it a danger how exactly?
5

roadstohell,

05/11/2009 12:25:25
I think that CEC should supply and pay for the running costs of each family affected, a new top of the range 4X4 vehicle, so they can ferry their children to school in safety.
6

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05/11/2009 12:28:27
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05/11/2009 12:29:09
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Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 05/11/2009 12:46:13
"They crossed at a traffic island, which was highlighted by police as a potential danger given that it is close to a bus stop and motorists overtake buses"

This sounds like its a badly placed traffic island which is more of a hazard than anything else.

Reading through the last bit of this article, it seems that the Jackson family need a short, sharp lesson in life. Why have they been given the task of commenting on these kind of issues when it seems plain that they'd be scared stiff of running a bath?

"...there are lots of trees and bushes,..."

Er Yes... You tend to find trees and bushes in a park. Or are you scared that the Bogeyman might be hiding in them to pounce on you and steal your sweets? It's pathetic how supposed adults act nowadays, and even mor pathetic how they get away with it.
9

ShellB84,

05/11/2009 12:53:58
I live in ardshiel avenue and my kids go to Clermiston School,it's barely a 10min walk never mind 30mins,honestly how slow were they walking,though in fairness the drum brae is a busy road.
10

Eugene Fraxby,

Kilbirnie 05/11/2009 12:54:00
Children do not walk to school because their parents are keen to show off their fancy SUVs at the gates.
11

Loving Mother,

05/11/2009 12:55:25
No4 I think it would take more than 2 minutes if you were 4and a half 5 6 0r 7 with Pilton Drive North Junction to cross unless you were able to run that distance we are talking of little ones here.
12

Incandescent,

05/11/2009 12:57:59
#3 Also agree.

How do The Jacksons get to sleep at night? Wee Iain could fall out of bed, or become tangled in his duvet, or... or... Aaaaaaargh!
13

ShellB84,

05/11/2009 12:58:38
also Clermiston park is as about as dangerous as a deflated balloon! loads of kids play there all the time.y are people so worried about a few trees!
14

totally indecent,

05/11/2009 13:09:48
Another route, which would impact on Royston pupils travelling from Saltire Street to Granton Primary, was described as posing "significant risk" to unaccompanied children, especially at Waterfront Avenue.

Quote above for you Loving Mother. If we are talking of little ones why would they be unaccompanied?
15

Loving Mother,

05/11/2009 13:18:45
Whether they are accompanied or not they still walk at the same speed. No one said anything about them being unaccompanied.
16

Ecto,

05/11/2009 13:28:12
I walked to school on my own from about 6. People with kids these days are over protective and need to get a life. Kids need to learn road safety at school like we did and be done with it.
17

Delboy,

Edinburgh 05/11/2009 13:33:32
Back in the day when I were a lad we had to walk 5 miles to school in all weathers. And 5 miles back home. Kids these days just don't know they're born...
18

totally indecent,

05/11/2009 13:36:13
The article said it! Anyhow the point I was making is there is barely any distance between the schools so it it mollycoddling parents making a fuss about nothing.
19

calum,

05/11/2009 13:40:28
When all is said and done, the unequivocal responsibility for ensuring that a child gets to school safely is, according to the Education Act, with the parent/guardian. So Mr. and Mrs Jackson need to accept responsibility for their own P4 son, that's an 8/9 year old, for goodness sake! So it it reassuring that they would not let their son walk the route alone........ geeeee...
20

David55,

05/11/2009 13:46:53
These days, most kids seem to get driven to school by their parents anyway.

Can't the council just put in a pedestrain crossing at Drumbrae Drive?

As an aside, why are their lollipop men/women at push button pedestrain crossings?
21

RS2,

05/11/2009 20:30:43
and how many kids walk to their local school just now

the biggest danger to kids going to/from school is parents on the School Run.

On the mobile , parked on zig zags, double yellows, ignoring the 20 max mph speed limit

with 4 kids in the back and not a seat belt on between them.
22

RS2,

05/11/2009 20:31:50
where is GT tonight.....

 

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