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Published Date: 24 May 2008
AN INVESTIGATION has been launched after a chunk of masonry fell from the King's Theatre, narrowly missing an elderly pedestrian.
Police closed off the road and an urgent safety check was ordered at the 102-year-old building following the incident yesterday.

It is the latest in a series of masonry falls from the Capital's historic buildings in recent years and today prompted
fresh demands for more money to be found for the long-awaited refurbishment of the theatre.

Eyewitnesses told how the heavy piece of red standstone, about eight inches square, fell around 20

metres, smashing on to the pavement on Tarvit Street.

David Fraser, owner of the Tarvit Launderette opposite, said: "An elderly man had just left the shop and was about to cross the road when it happened.

"He got a big fright. If he'd been a few metres further across, it would've hit him. It was a very near miss.

"It smashed on the pavement, then bounced. The force must have put it into pieces."

Police were called to close off Tarvit Street at around 9.30am yesterday as city council property officers started carrying out an assessment of the rest of the stonework

The building, which is in line for a £20 million refurbishment to bring it up to modern standards, is owned by the council, and run by the Festival City Theatres Trust. So far only £6 million has been raised for the project.

A city council spokeswoman said the authority's property officers were called to assess the situation. "A piece of stonework fell from a high level from the side of the King's Theatre onto Tarvit Street on Friday," she confirmed, adding that council property officers were called to assess the situation.

Darrell Williams, head of marketing at the theatre trust, said: "A full check will be completed and remedial plans put into action.

"Unless advised otherwise, business continues as normal with Telford College performing a sell-out dance show on Saturday night." John Saunderson, chairman of the Tollcross Traders Association, is part of the campaign to save the King's Theatre. He said the incident highlighted the urgency for repairs to be carried out.

He said: "This just sums it up really. I hope it will jolt everyone involved to get on with it and release more funds to get on with it.

"As a trader, I'm always getting told by the council to do all sorts of health and safety checks, including checking stonework.

"I feel like telling them to get their own house in order first. It's really sad that it's got to this stage."

The issue of falling masonry has been in the headlines ever since an Australian waitress was killed at Ryan's Bar, in the West End, in 2000.

That sparked a city-wide investigation into the state of properties.

Early last year, Canonmills residents escaped injury after tonnes of sandstone crashed to the ground outside their flats and last May, a large chunk of masonry fell from a tower at the Church of Scotland's General Assembly Hall.

Meadows and Morningside councillor Paul Godzik said he was concerned there could be a need for further repairs to the building and would raise the matter in the next full council meeting.

He said: "I'm very concerned about the situation, and thankful that no-one has been hurt. However, what is clear is that urgent repairs are needed to ensure that there are no similar incidents in the future.

"There is obviously money set aside to upgrade the theatre, but we have to assess what kind of state of repair the outside of the building is in."





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  • Last Updated: 24 May 2008 10:19 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: King's Theatre
 
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alex paterson,

Sevilla 24/05/2008 12:18:04
There is more than the Kings Theatre with crumbling masonry and no wonder,with all the firework displays we have they shake the City,its like the Blitz all over again with each display.
2

104 years in a row!!,

Edinburgh 24/05/2008 12:31:22
#1 You're a muppet!
3

Dan.D.Nong,

24/05/2008 12:44:53
six million squid! That's not enough to fix it up! Money doesn't go very far nowadays.
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TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 24/05/2008 12:48:57
Relieved to read that the pedestrian escaped with his life.

Now, if only that piece of masonry fell on some of the bumbling councillors in a "polite" way and knocked some sense into their mindless "minds" perhaps things would get done in Edinburgh.

Will the various councils allow your beautiful city to crumble about you or kill innocent, tax-paying citizens before they get off their pampered, pigs-at-the-trough ars*s?
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William of Liberton,

EDINBURGH 24/05/2008 13:37:47
#1 You are quite correct: it is the firework displays (or to be more accurate) the sound effects from them which is accelerating the the deterioration of the city's buildings. And there is no need for the sound effects: a visual display is more entertaining anyway. Let's have the colours without the noise.
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Frae Bentos,

Edinburgh 24/05/2008 13:50:38
Anyone who has been to the Kings recently might wonder why there aint bits falling off the inside ?? This theatre must warrant more atention than it gets. Who that has spent their childhood in Edinburgh hasn't been to an Xmas pantomime ans still retains the memory ? I suspect it will end up as flats or maybe a office block.
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Frae Bentos,

Edinburgh 24/05/2008 13:52:49
I like the Fireworks by the way ? maybe a bit of public hanging - of councillors - might be an added atraction at this years Festival. the Kings might end a "Fringe" venue by the way - like al the other SH.. Ho...
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Graeme F,

24/05/2008 13:58:36
#1 right, so it's all fireworks. Nothing to do with the dirt great car you and all the other motorists of Edinburgh probably insist on driving past the Kings every day??
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24/05/2008 14:57:25
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24/05/2008 15:05:01
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alex paterson,

Sevilla 24/05/2008 15:18:33
#2
You are probably one of the TUBES who love loud noises and to hell with the buildings,you are a freak grow up.
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24/05/2008 15:47:53
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Unimpressed one,

24/05/2008 16:41:30
"(T)he heavy piece of red standstone, about eight inches square, fell around 20 metres"

Apart from the obvious typo, mixing inches and metres in the same sentence seems a bit of PC confusion.
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24/05/2008 16:53:34
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valleyjim,

dickens pub 24/05/2008 18:11:18
Never mind all that. What about Kenny Richie getting fixed up with a young bit. Thought EEN would have made this front page news.
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Mr Fuzzy,

Edinburgh 24/05/2008 21:46:13
#1 is correct.

I rented a flat in New Town once, and every Summer, the entire building would be shaken to the foundations by the shockwaves of the final fireworks - the floor would shake, the windows would rattle, and car alarms would go off. I hate to imagine what it was doing to the masonry on the roof.

If you were lucky, you could find a piece of the original fireworks casing (brown cardboard/paper) on your windowsill, front door street.
17

Bertie The Bat,

24/05/2008 21:59:26
Let the train take the strain.....
18

is it me?,

Edinburgh 24/05/2008 22:15:27
#1 Alecs
four wunce it seams your rite
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 24/05/2008 22:23:01

Hi TimW @#5, not often see ya posting in this rag.

'Aye' Edinburgh's old buildings are 'cracking-up' now, but 'come-on' how long do you expect them to last under the pressures of our atrocious weather, the rain, damp, cold, sea air etc!

And now they have to suffer the,..'Bangs' that are to entertain our tourists at 'New-Year'

Our poor suffering old "Buildings" have done well to last this long, but can take,..'NO-MORE'

As for any Soo-called "Renovation Works" its all Too much,..

Beat that contract',..'Beat that contract' for price!! which only results in 'shoddy work' being carried out.

'The Council Will Have To',..

'Smarten their Act',...'PDQ'

Before someone else dies as a result of this as was for the Girl that was killed at the West-end only a few years ago!
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24/05/2008 23:06:42
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 24/05/2008 23:25:04

#23,....'D'oh',?
22

celtic4,

USA 25/05/2008 03:51:56
I am happy no one was killed this time.
23

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 25/05/2008 11:43:22
22 Charles Linskaill

And good morning to you, sir - AND your DYW.

I have been posting but sporadically because I have been busy with this, that, and the other IRRITATING thing - and travelling.

But I am BAAAAACK, for a while.
24

Listening,

25/05/2008 14:57:29
More likely reason is the decades of lack of maintenance of all the buildings in central Edinburgh.

As always it takes a serious accident like this, and the one at Ryans Bar, to make people sit up and pay attention.

The buildings are very old and have had little in way of maintenance.

Anyone who owns, or intends to own, any building should be held responsible for its proper maintenance. There are dozens, if not more, that I have seen in a very dangerous condition and nobody seems to want to know.

A lot of these buildings are listed and some improvements can't be done. It's about time, whether a building is listed or not, that if a building is finished then it is knocked down and replaced.
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Mr Fuzzy,

Edinburgh 25/05/2008 21:28:05
#27
People will put their properties on the market before they are required to pay for the repairs (going into five figure sums).

You could require people to pay towards renovation insurance maintained by the tenants association (I wouldn't trust the council as they would just spend the money elsewhere). Why should the most recent owners be responsible for all the repairs while previous tenants have got off with not any financial responsibility?
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HughB,

Edinburgh 26/05/2008 11:32:48
The pieces of stone which fell from Ryan's bar in 2000 fell immediately after a 21 gun salute for the Queen.

The bangs may not cause all the problems, but if there is any loose stonework, this it will be shaken free by these bangs.
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ACB,

Edinburgh 09/07/2008 14:26:53
Dear All,

I am part of the community involved in the understanding of natural building stones and subsequently the study of their decay and failure. Can I start by saying very clearly that I am aware of no scientific evidence to show that stone falls are due to fireworks. If the reverberation caused by the firework was to lead to a masonry fall this, I believe, would be because the masonry in question was already unsafe and was very overdue in being repaired.

Pollution is certainly a factor which can contribute to the decay of natural stonework but one of the main issues we’re facing today, however, is the general lack of understanding of the material. Far too commonly the incorrect materials are being used for making repairs to buildings, mostly in the case of cement repairs. Sandstone (which the majority of Edinburgh is built out of) is a porous material which water is absorbed into and evaporates away from. Where a cement patch is put onto a building, water can no longer enter or leave the stonework at this point and it is forced out and around the edges of the patch leading to enhanced decay of the adjacent sandstone. This leads to failure of the sandstone, but commonly and often more importantly, to the failure of the cement patch, which is liable to fall from a building as one large lump.

Sandstone itself is a fantastic material which can last for many centuries, as proved by so much of the built heritage of the centre of our capital. It has the longevity which so many of our modern materials are lacking. All that is required to obtain this longevity is the need for good maintenance (unblocking or fixing your leaking drain pipe could ultimately save you thousands of pounds).

It is unfair to say that the council are allowing our beautiful city to crumble around us. Concern for the safety of Edinburgh’s buildings is of high priority to Edinburgh City Council. Where repairs are needed, statutory notices are served to the owner/owners of a building and
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ACB,

Edinburgh 09/07/2008 14:28:30
part 2

...they are required to carry out the necessary repairs, and as I understand it a fair amount of assistance is provided by Edinburgh City Council for these repairs. Try the Edinburgh City Council’s website for more details:

http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/internet/environment/planning_buildings_i_i_/cec_property_conservation_2

The cost of the repairs has to be the responsibility of the current owner. It’s a buyer’s responsibility to know what they are purchasing and therefore if there is a material or structural failure within a building then the owners must be the ones to answer for it.

Regarding the Ryan’s Bar incident I would like to note that that was an entirely different type of failure to the majority of masonry falls which have been recorded. As I understand it, that was due to the failure of the fixings which were supposed to tie the stones in place and not the failure of the stone itself.

If you are interested in finding out more about the issues surrounding stone decay and the use of natural stone in Scotland you may like to refer to the Scottish Stone Liaison Group’s website (new version of the website due to go live shortly):

http://www.sslg.co.uk/

 

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