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Published Date: 26 May 2008
IT'S the £100 a day job that unemployed Scots don't want. A Lothian farmer today revealed that he has to rely on migrant workers because not even jobless people in the area want to try their hand at fruit picking.
But far from it being a tiresome job with little reward, workers at the farm who regularly average up to £100-a-day say they can't believe local people don't want to do the job.

It is just one of many industries across the Lothians which now rely almost exclusively on migrant workers, despite figures showing that there are more than 11,000 people officially classed as unemployed in the Capital alone.

John Sinclair, the owner of West Craigie Fruit Farm outside South Queensferry, told the Evening News that the arrival of eastern European workers had practically saved his business.

The 39-year-old said: "It angers me a bit that younger Scottish folk would rather be unemployed than do work like this.

"I think there is less of a desire to work for things these days and people just get handed things on a plate."

While official figures suggest that around 11,600 people are officially unemployed in the Capital, the actual number out of work is far higher.

A recent profile of the Capital's labour market, compiled by the Office for National Statistics, estimated that almost 20 per cent of the working age population is "economically inactive".

This includes people who are looking after family or have taken early retirement.

Mr Sinclair said that Scots could learn a lot from the hard-working migrants.

"Before, you would never know if some of your staff were going to turn up on a Monday after you'd paid them, and that kind of thing can lead to you losing contracts.

"With the migrant workers who come over, the work ethic is tremendous, and they have a good time into the bargain. Even if they have been up late having a party, they would be out there picking at 4am if they were asked to. Missing work just isn't an option for them, they don't consider it."

He added: "It really takes you aback when you hear the stories some of these people come across with," he said.

"In recent years we've had quite a lot of Ukrainian students who come just for the summer to help pay their way through their studies.

"When I was taking two of them back to the airport last year I asked them what they were going to do with all the money they made, and the first thing they both said was, pay the lecturers a percentage of what they had earned, otherwise they would fail their exams.

"The only time we can really get folk from the area is schoolkids on their holidays. Their mums would maybe come up and say they wanted to work for a few weeks, but many of them do a couple of days and you never see them again."

Although thought of as seasonal work – the picking season runs from May until October – migrant workers are employed at the farm all year round.

Many of those out of work don't even want a job, according to the ONS report, backing up concerns that people think they can earn as much in benefits as they could working for minimum wage payment.

But Mr Sinclair put paid to the theory, emphasising the amount that can be made from some hard work on the farm.

And he pointed out that the diverse nature of the farm made it a more enjoyable place to work.

He said: "This place, in the summer especially, is great, there are all kinds of people here and it is a fantastic atmosphere.

"People are employed from January right through until November. It is interesting to see how things change.

"Three or four years ago I would get 15 e-mails a day from Polish people looking for work, but now it is more Bulgarian and Romanian.

"The Polish people are now more likely to be skilled and be looking for office-based jobs – but I'm not sure they would make £80 or £90 a day from that."

Fruit picking may be the most prosperous industry for migrant workers in the Lothians, but it is by no means the only one dependent on foreign labour.

Reliance on eastern European workers peaked in 2005 and 2006, according to employment agencies, but they still make up the largest proportion of active job seekers in the city.

Chris Watson, a branch manager of Labour Ready – a recruitment agency in Bread Street – said: "A couple of years ago I would say more than 90 per cent of the people we dealt with were from outside the UK. It's a bit less now, probably 60 to 70 per cent, but before the Eastern Europeans came to Edinburgh we were struggling to get anyone."

One Polish worker, Bartosz Brozek, 26, who lives in Leith, moved to Edinburgh in 2005 to find work.

He has worked in a range of unskilled jobs since his arrival, and has no sympathy with those Scots who claim that they can't find work.

He said: "I was in Edinburgh for a matter of days when I found a job at a building site.

"I could not speak very good English at this time and had not worked much before, but I went to one agency with a friend and found a number of jobs to choose from. Even now it is easy to work in an office without having done so before and you can live comfortably with the pay.

"It is not like Poland where you have to work very, very hard to make enough money to eat and to live.

"I can not understand why there are people who say they never find work – all you have to do is spend an hour looking and you can secure employment for a long time.

"On building sites I have had bosses say to me that if it wasn't for me and my (Polish) friends, the buildings would never be finished – or maybe even started!"


'It can be hard but you get used to it quickly'

IVANA GOLIASOVA moved from the Slovak Republic four years ago to work at West Craigie Farm.

She said: "When I first came I found it a bit difficult for the first few days because I had only ever worked at a counter, but after a short time it becomes like any other job."

Ivana, who originally moved over with her ex-boyfriend with the intention of making a fortune and returning to her homeland, has altered her plans since she arrived.

She has worked for four years at West Craigie Farm. When the picking season is over she, like other migrant workers, takes up other roles on the farm for hourly pay, generally just above the minimum wage.

But she said the fortunes available by doing piece work in the summer and autumn months make the job a prosperous one.

"Right now I can make so much money to save and soon I plan to travel and see the world, working here has paid for that," she said.

"It is a good job as well. Yes it can be hard work but you get used to it very quickly. There are many people to meet from many countries and it allows you to make so many friends.

"When the Scottish people come I feel bad for calling them lazy and it is not a nice word, but they do not seem to like the work and do not last for too long."

Another Slovakian worker, 22-year-old Stefan Jolias, has been in the Lothians for a year. Like Ivana, he lives on site in the mobile homes Mr Sinclair has set aside for his workers.

He could not believe the rate of pay when he arrived.

"Here I can make in a hard day's work what you would make for doing the same thing in the Slovak Republic for a month," he said. "I have been able to save so much so I can soon go back home, buy a car, buy a home, and I would never have been able to do this if I had stayed at home.

"When I go back I always say to my friends that they must come over."




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Liz,

Edinburgh 26/05/2008 12:18:42
It says quite alot about the indigenous population too.

Over indulged by an excessivly generous benefits system and there is no longer any incentive for many to get a job.
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Smasher,

26/05/2008 12:28:38
The Scottish unemployed lazy gits should be forced to take these jobs or have the money WE give to them for sitting about doing he haw stopped. They look down their noses at this type of work but walk with their heads held high into the jobcentre to scrounge of the state. This is wrong. People without jobs who scrounge OUR money should have to wear some ID so we know who they are. They shouldn't be allowed to have fun without paying for it with their own money. No alcohol, fags, burberry wear and shellsuits. They should be banned from the cinema, bars and mixing with workers. Any luxuries should be out of their reach.
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alex paterson,

embra 26/05/2008 12:33:15
Well done the new people,now leave some for me i am home again and i will do it.
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26/05/2008 12:50:35
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James (1),

26/05/2008 12:56:02
The only reason that locals will not take the jobs is that being unemployed they get their benefits paid directly into the bank and need do nothing for it. Gone are the days of signing on every week.
There, the secret is out!
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Stan Dup,

behind you 26/05/2008 12:58:56
Well Smasher, you'll be one of those liberals then. I think some of the migrant workers are here to escape from people with attitudes like yours.
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Stan Dup,

behind you 26/05/2008 12:59:21
Well Smasher, you'll be one of those liberals then. I think some of the migrant workers are here to escape from people with attitudes like yours. Still got your black shirt.
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Pond Hall,

26/05/2008 12:59:32
And what the hours

is the £100 a day based on hours or how much fruit you pick.
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Stan Dup,

behind you 26/05/2008 13:00:16
Well Smasher, you'll be one of those liberals then. I think some of the migrant workers are here to escape from people with attitudes like yours. Still got your black shirt.
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26/05/2008 13:05:28
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MacHibee,

26/05/2008 13:06:32
I'm actually quite embarressed to read this story. I've lost count of how many times I've heard "i can't find work" and "the eastern europeans are taking our jobs". Get a grip Scotland! Why do so little people want to rely on the Government to support them???

On another note: With all Eastern Europeans coming here to find work, there has obviously been a massive influx which has created a migrant community. I want to make these people feel welcome if they are willing to work hard as most have proven. However, I feel due to these migrant communities, there is a massive divide between locals and migrants. What is the council/government doing to mix the communities? I think they should be doing more!
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26/05/2008 13:06:33
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MacHibee,

26/05/2008 13:08:03
Why do so little people want to rely on the Government to support them???

* i meant "why do so many..." scrounging scum bags
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Smasher,

26/05/2008 13:15:55
Stan, I heard you the first time. What is my attitude? That you work in life and don't take state hand outs you don't deserve. What's wrong with that way of thinking? You carry on defending these idle lay abouts all you want. As far as I'm aware. The majority of the Polish people here are not escaping tyranny in Warsaw. They are here to work and work hard doing the jobs the people of this country turn their noses up at. It's become far to easy to stay on welfare and that has got to change. Just finished ironing my black shirt. How's your white flag?
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26/05/2008 13:21:37
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Unimpressed one,

26/05/2008 13:40:09
Jesus wept - let's have some facts. The officially unemployed must sign off to take this work. This involves loss of associated 'perks' such as housing benefit and council tax benefit, not to mention free prescriptions and kid's school meals. Then they have tax docked off now at 20p in the £ as opposed to 10p. All this for some seasonal work which, when finished, means they have to go through the harassing experience of signing on again. If they do it 'unofficially' just to top up their dole money and if they get caught out, it means they are forced to pay back the dole money and risk a criminal record. Feckless unemployed? More like irresponsible DWP.
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Smasher,

26/05/2008 13:45:41
You are getting confused. I am not against eastern europeans coming here and working far from it, I welcome them. If I was to put an advert in my local shop window asking for an Ironing person. Who do you think would apply? A) A Scottish person B) An immigrant. Now why is it that Poles are willing to do this work and our people are not? You tell me. This country is overloaded with work shy lay abouts who are laughing at people like me. Enough is enough. No work with no excuse = no handouts. You tell me what's wrong with that attitude instead of talking tripe about Black shirts and ironing.
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brettgallacher,

edinburgh 26/05/2008 13:51:27
lets get the facts straight what mr sinclair fails to tell you is , these jobs are short term jobs plus he supplies mobile homes at a rate which gives him a lot of this hard earned income back, i myself when i was younger done a lot of these fruit picking tattie picking ,delivering milk , papers etc and even then i knew as i grew older i could nt not would nt do a job that was only short term, most people are right the lazy cant get a job breed are usually made up of drunks, druggies ,or the canny be bothered brigade . but dont any of you liars out there say you would do one of these jobs or get your butt along there and do one then.
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SPG,

edinburgh 26/05/2008 13:59:07
I'm not sure who these posters are having a pop at. The feckless scum ect or the government that allows it. Why work when you don't have to?
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Puzzler,

Edinburgh 26/05/2008 13:59:30
Right, so let me get this straight.

This farmer is paying £100 a day to fruit pickers. Assuming that they work 40 hours a week, that's £12.50 an hour, so he is paying £26,000 pa pro-rata for unskilled labour?!!! Naaahh. Sorry. Puzzler'ws Mamma didn't raise no fool!

I have been berry picking several times at West Craigie and the East European workers there looked perfectly relaxed and happy. I also noticed the Polish flag flying from a couple of caravans. I suspect that they are getting their accomodation and meals thrown in and have no overheads re : bills or travel, which would not be options available to local workers - or would they? You tell us Mr Sinclair. I also suspect that they work a good deal more than 40 hours a week to earn their notional £100.

While I have no doubt that some Scots are bone idle and that Mr Sinclair is a model employer, let's not be stupid. Migrant workers accept poor conditions and low wages because things are worse at home. If the Poles were not here the fruit would get picked by tinkers, students and the like, who have done so for years.

In fact many travelling communities are extremely angry that this traditional source of income is now being denied to them - farmers prefer nice clean blond Polish girls to members of an outcast minority and are quite open about saying so; as long as the police and social services aren't about. Don't take my word for it. Call the Romany Association.

Don't get me wrong. I have no problem with Polish people being here, and if they will do work the Scots turn their noses up at, more fool the Scots, but lets' not forget that they left home because the wages were too low for their liking. Those jobs are now largely being filled by Romanians and Koreans. Does that make the native Poles lazy? I wonder how many articles like this one are written in the Polish papers?

" I offered 50 Zlotys an hour, but they can go and work in a fruit farm in Scotland and get twice that. I don't know wh
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Stan Dup,

26/05/2008 14:03:22
Smasher, it's just that I keep thinking about your original post, quote;
"People without jobs who scrounge OUR money should have to wear some ID so we know who they are. They shouldn't be allowed to have fun without paying for it with their own money. No alcohol, fags, burberry wear and shellsuits. They should be banned from the cinema, bars and mixing with workers. Any luxuries should be out of their reach"

That just feels a bit like something that happened in Germany and was then exported to other parts of Europe back in the 30s and 40s. If they have to wear ID so we know who they are, why not big yellow stars. It's a tried and tested approach.
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Boy Wonder,

26/05/2008 14:21:50
When I was 13 I did the tattie picking with my brothers and sisters. If such jobs were on offer today to under-16s my daughters would be up for it.

If our own home-bred louts won't do it ... stop their benefits. They'll soon be happy to work then!
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jjkiller,

26/05/2008 14:35:19
I think that if you are a tax payer you should get some benefits above the people who never contribute, like 1st on hospital lists etc as of now there is no incentive to work for the dole sroungers
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Smasher,

26/05/2008 14:37:30
Big yellow stars. That's not what I want. A large neon St Andrews cross on their backs would do nicely. They should be barred from all forms of fun. Not sold fags, alcohol or premium branded goods. They should not be allowed to own a car. We as a society have come to accept these people taking money they don't deserve. Scratching our heads wondering how they can run a car on welfare benefits as we sqeeze on the bus to work. Most people know someone that does not want to work and would rather live a life on state hand outs. People can choose how they want to live their lives but why do they expect us mugs to pay for their choice? GET A JOB.
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MoragtheToerag,

Argyll 26/05/2008 14:40:05
They don't take it because it's a seasonal job. They lose all their benefit and just when their application for Working Tax Credit gets sorted out, the season's over.

So they have to either find another temp gig, which won't pay as much and then their Working Tax Credit gets all cocked up, or go back on the dole and wait for that to kick in.

Eastern Europeans don't have the same cost of living as British people who live here year round and have to support their families.

Typical skewed reporting I've come to expect from this lot of muppets.
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Von Trippenhoff,

26/05/2008 14:47:08
This is nothing more than press coverage to put pressure on the government to allow more migrant workers from non-EU countries in to do these jobs as our friends the Poles are heading home due to thier economy picking up. If you google the name of Mr. Sinclairs farm you will find a vast amount of news sites carrying the story but you won't find any pages offering jobs save for a cafe worker placement. Where exactly does he advertise his job vacancies?
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Stan Dup,

26/05/2008 14:55:44
#25 "It doesnt take a huge leap of imagination to picture a new nazism based on the expunction of the underclass.
I'd be all for it in the big scheme of things to be honest."

Now surely that depends on who is defining the underclass. If you were on the train to the camps would you still be all for it?

#28 Oh Smasher, you closet liberal; you missed out sterilisation, and really!! a "large neon St Andrew's Cross" get a grip.
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soft_top08,

dalmeny 26/05/2008 15:10:46
this story is untrue livng a 5 min walk from the farm my son has asked for work at least 8 times each time he was told they had none this story made me so angry i phoned john sinclair but he only brushed my comments aside and tried to justify only employing migrant workers my son was 18 at the time and was never given a chance to work localy
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MoragtheToerag,

Argyll 26/05/2008 15:30:16
Exactly, nos. 30 and 33.

These employers advertise only through agencies that work to employ Eastern Europeans.

They don't want British employees because then they'd have to obey British laws regarding employment.


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hungryandhomeless,

edinburgh 26/05/2008 15:38:19
I was recentley unemployed and live near West Craigie Farm not once did I see that they were looking for staff. I'd have loved to earn £100 a day, better than the £150 a week I'm settling for at the moment!!!
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Smasher,

26/05/2008 15:38:25
Stan

Sterilisation. Now there's a thought. The large St Andrews cross thing was just an idea. I'm open to other suggestions as to how we identify these scroungers.

No 33. The reason your son did not get the job is obvious. He can walk to work. He will not be charged £65.00 per day for a space in the caravan accomodation the charitable farmer provides. This is just a guess. I could be wrong but farmers are known to be a bunch of tight fisted, moaning faced bar stewards with strange accents.
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neds-r-us,

26/05/2008 15:44:45
Mr Sinclair is no doubt in receipt of very large social security payments himself. Taxpayers in Scotland give farmers around 600 million pounds a year in handouts.

The eastern Europeans are cheap labour who can be sacked on the spot. If the labour force lives on the farm then they can easily be exploited.

It is interesting how the eastern Europeans do not want to work for low wages back home but instead criticise Scots for being unwilling to do so in Scotland.




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hungryandhomeless,

edinburgh 26/05/2008 15:45:56
Oh yeah and having recentley had to go on the dole following redundancy, I can also confirm that you do have to sign on with all the other numpties, you don't get any help with paying your mortgage and you definitely do not get free prescriptions!!

Maybe I wasn't working the system well enough, dammitt!!!
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blackley,

Edinburgh 26/05/2008 15:59:34
£100 a day? Don't make me laugh!
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26/05/2008 16:13:21
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26/05/2008 16:14:19
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JamboChris,

Maastricht 26/05/2008 17:15:47
I watched a TV programme a while ago about fruit and vegetable picking in England. It was mostly immigrants from Eastern Europe doing the work as the farmers couldn't find any local labour. The presenter went down to the benefits office where the track suited, lager drinking locals were offered jobs at 9 quid an hour. When told it would be picking marrows they all laughed and said no way. Far too much hard work they said.
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Teofilio Cubillas,

26/05/2008 17:24:55
#28 Smasher "They should be barred from all forms of fun. Not sold fags, alcohol or premium branded goods. They should not be allowed to own a car."

They don't own cars mate. That's for mugs like us. Motability gives the work shy underclass cars because they're all scrounging incapacity benefit to keep New Labour's unemployment figures down.

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26/05/2008 18:09:30
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Finbarr Saunders,

26/05/2008 18:25:19
Sorry, I thought I was on the Evening News website, but I appear to have been somehow redirected onto some rubbish tabloid website, full of stories that are just designed to excite/enrage its readers.

Now, where's that story about Britney's baldy heid?
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Von Trippenhoff,

26/05/2008 20:22:43
This might be part of the problem. I emailed West Craigie Fruit Farm to ask about a job (£100 a day? I'll have a slice of that!) but unfortunately they appologised and informed me they only take applications in November.

As the picking season doesn't start until May thats a 5 or 6 month wait before starting work if your application is successful. Lazy Scots or Scots who tend to apply for jobs when they need them? It certainly would never have occurred to me to apply for a summer job in winter, maybe I'm just daft.
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Ex scot,

26/05/2008 20:58:30
18 i agree...Also all the bosses go by 3 percent inflation figure for pay rises but this does not take into account of real fuel inflation of 10% for travel plus bus fare rises of over 10% to subsidece bus drivers pensions

If work is so great then why is the DWP always on strike when I try and sign on.
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Juan hand,

26/05/2008 21:24:06
Bacus Well done!


I am fed up watching these little p155ers get away with it and live anonymously.

I award you for a comendantion! Shame the sh1tes!
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soft_top08,

26/05/2008 21:27:17
no 35 sorry but they dont obey british law do u think its right to say scots are unreliable workers so we dont employ them this is what john sinclair said to me today if i were only employing scots im sure many would see that as being raceist
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26/05/2008 21:27:47
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Juan hand,

26/05/2008 21:28:12
#49 - I reckon this is a "why don't working class people put up with dickensian conditions ?" story.

He probably only employs folk who are clearly foreign, live on site and clearly sticks a two fingered salute up to his local neighbourhood. He should be called exploitation farm fruits. with only £100 if you work fast as a trojan for a full 24 hours perday.

Designed more to publicise a farm and provide fodder for article.



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26/05/2008 21:32:18
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Juan hand,

26/05/2008 21:38:41
Allthough I agree their are a fair few chavs, pikeys and ner do wells about I reckon some decent folk could escape their troglodite clutches if they trully were offered fantasy jobs like this. It would be even better if Labours "crest of a wave" phoney housing boom didn't make that prospect impossible for most decent folk too escape the schemes.

In Oxgangs in Edinburgh it has steadily been turned by the council and local councillors permission into a open wild life park , for all sorts of jakies, tramps and general knuckle draggers. all for the sake of a few idiots and card board gangsters needing rehoused. They cause a lot of people trouble , and due to the fact most folk would not stoop to their level and join them in jail they think their it!

All this because it is an old scheme. May as well turf the previous inhabitants of niddry , southhouse etc their!

No wonder the folk who could mark an x voted tory i Oxgangs! Labour in Edinburgh and the Local Police could not manage a pils up in a brewery.







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celtic4,

USA 27/05/2008 00:31:39
I would pick the fruit were I there. I was never predjudiced in my entire life, but the American government is making me feel oddly enough that way now. There are Mexicans who sneak across the border illegally, set up housekeeping 14 to a flat, send their 14 kids to schools make an application and get them free lunches, they drive cars altho they have no license to drive or insurance, they have babies here and know they are American citizens now, they go on welfare food stamps, and take jobs we can't get, and NOW they are making noises to have the Star Spangled Banner sung in Spanish because they cannot speak English and will not learn! NO WAY! When we use the telephone we have to press one for ENglish! That is totally unfair treatment of the American people. Do NOT allow your country to become as bad as that, please. Retain who you are!!!
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27/05/2008 01:25:15
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JamboChris,

Maastricht 27/05/2008 08:51:48
#58 "The Poles are coming" BBC in March.

Not a fantatist {sic} just a realist. Don't you like the truth?
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Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 27/05/2008 11:14:08
#59. I am sure you would be great at picking potatoes.
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antifa,

27/05/2008 11:14:10
Look, it's casual, seasonal work. It suits people over here on a working holiday, and not people looking to provide for their family over the long term. It's not difficult - just think for two bloomin' seconds.
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Arrow,

edinburgh 27/05/2008 11:16:26
my son worked in Australia on his way around and took jobs picking fruit along with numerous other backpackers and others. he did say that the people form the Uk were pretty hardworking and he landed a job herding cattle (including the horse!!). it is an attitude and he was brought up to understand that you work for your living and not depend on handouts (he is still working on that one and although he does shake hands with his palm upwards when we meet he's m'boy!)
there is a tendency in the UK to beleive that the government is there to provide benefits and i have heard people saying "its my right" but with rights comes responsibilty and that is what is missing (along with good manners). but as long as we can afford to spend the oli wealth in the UK on illegal wars and benefits it will go on. when that goes watch out for the tax rises to give the punters "bread and circuses" to distrct them as the rich bale out with their money.
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KWC,

Edinburgh 27/05/2008 13:19:28
Says it all really about our society. Good luck to those that want to work. Can we send our unwilling over to their countries out of our way?

By the way do the French fruit pickers wear a beret?
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Hmmm..,

27/05/2008 15:42:45
I worked in Turkey for two years and if you saw what people did there to earn a mere fraction of what the fruit farm is offering (which by the way is a very good pay, and by no means minimum wage) you would be disgusted with these lazy scroungers. Thankfully, I work and live abroad, in the sun, so I don't have to pay for them. We have no respect, that's the problem. Respect is getting up in the morning and earn wahtever you can. Like the Turk who pulls a heavy two wheeled cart from bin to bin to recycle cardboard or plastic.
In thailand some sit in the street and try to sell equiv 5 pence plastic spiders to toursists. What sort of custom or commission do they get for that? But they won't sit and do nothing.
Turkey have a good system. Unless you cannot phyisically work, you don't get benefit. Now if we had that law in the UK, you'd have a long line of dobbers queuing in November for that job starting in March.
Who's fault? It's probably the spineless do-gooder attitude that's crippling our country.

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UB40-not-all-scum,

Edinburgh 27/05/2008 15:56:02
Smasher... you have annoyed me. You have branded ALL* unemployed drinking, smoking, burberry/ shellsuit wearing scum. I can assure you this is not the case for all. What about the unemployed that have lost their jobs through ill health, who need to get back on the unemployment ladder but are constantly turned down by the reason of OVER QUALIFIED. Those who have a brain that could do your £13000 per annum job with ease. I have always worked and paid my taxes but for ill health I still would be. I probably did alot more for people than you EVER have. I have to go to the job centre and sign on every two weeks (so the system is still in place - for the person who incorrectly said it was a direct payment).

So Smasher, are you saying i should be removed of all fun and enjoyment?? Should I not be allowed to see films or enjoy a nice pint with my friends?? Your views reflect that of a heavy drinking smoking burberry wearing Non Educated Delinquent (or NED as you will be more familiar).

I myself will be looking at fruit picking as I want to work and really dont want to be signing on.

* I stressed this point as I am aware that some of these people do exist and indeed in heir vast numbers... my point is.... we (the unemployed) are not all like that!!
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UB40-not-all-scum,

27/05/2008 15:58:39
My reply from Craigies - hmmmm all to common a response for the beer swilling fag ashed burberry wearing society!!!!!

Hi

Thank you for your email applying to work at Craigie’s.

We do not currently have any vacancies at the moment. The article failed to report that I recruit my staff for the following year around November. So if you are interested in working for the 2009 season please apply in October 2008 with a written application and CV to john@craigies.co.uk

Yours sincerely

John Sinclair



60

Hmmm..,

27/05/2008 17:02:40
68- GET A JOB YOU SLACKER ;)

Ill health my ar5e! If you can pick fruit all day you can do a lot.

Seriously, I don't think Smasher is referring to your situation, so relax. You've done your bit and now you cant. Fair enough. What's wrong with you by the way?
61

UB40-not-all-scum,

27/05/2008 19:32:10
69 - I wish I could.... and i can take humour just as well as the next person.... it just annoys me when people generalise in that way.

My illness wasnt physical, so i could have done ALOT of jobs over the past year. Unfortunatley some employers get scared off by the word Depression with no real understanding of it....

disappointing that the evening news are using a story like this to get at the unemployed when in actual fact the farmer in question stated to them that he wasnt looking for staff right now!! I'm sure mine wasnt the only email he received so thanks Evening News for getting my hopes up!!!

anyway, i am going to stick my burberry cap on and head to the local for a well earned pint after bumming about all day!!!
62

Mallory,

Edinburgh 07/05/2009 11:57:34
So this guy is paying each worker above minimum wage and adhering to EU Working Time Directives?
63

saxz67,

Edinburgh 12/06/2009 00:50:43
what people forget is yes the immigrants are hard workers. fair play to them but after they make there money they go back home with it to live in there big houses and drive there big cars they don't give anything back to the country they are making it from. that's how the UK is in such a state to much money going out but not a lot coming in they also get more help and handouts from the government than people born in this country ............ PS Ive tried every year to get a job with west craigie fruit farm with the same answer all the time .sorry no vacancies ....they only want migrant workers as they work in poor conditions and don't question anything .
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saxz67,

Edinburgh 12/06/2009 01:06:38
one other thing ...Mr Sinclair you ask for a CV so probably ask for references to ???? so how do you check the migrants that come over as you say for the summer. and did they all apply in October from there own country's ??? so is west craigies well known in the slovak republic and the ukraine

 

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