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Published Date: 25 June 2009
SCOTTISHSecretary Jim Murphy was all smiles and laughter when he emerged from a meeting with Alex Salmond and his cabinet at St Andrew's House.
He joked with Finance Minister John Swinney as they dismissed advance predictions the occasion would be confrontational. Both men assured the waiting media that they had all got on fine and were eager to work together in the Scottish interest.

The
re were disagreements at the meeting, of course – not least over the SNP's call for immediate transfer of the extra powers the Calman commission suggested for the Scottish Parliament.

But both sides described the talks – the first of their kind – as useful and constructive.

When Mr Murphy was appointed as the UK Government's man in Scotland last autumn, many expected an aggressive campaign to harry Mr Salmond and his colleagues at every step.

The Scottish Secretary does not hesitate to attack when he thinks it is appropriate, but his general approach in dealing with the SNP government has been to talk consensus and promise co-operation.

"Working together in the interests of Scotland" has become his mantra for almost every occasion.

And he has proved himself an effective operator, seizing the initiative when he can – by calling summits over the economic situation or funding for the new Forth Road Bridge and even issuing an invitation to the Pope to visit Scotland next year.

His active involvement in issues of genuine public concern gives him more credibility when he then accuses the SNP of an "ideological obsession" with independence.

He was also quick to lambast Mr Salmond over his enthusiasm for Scotland to join the so-called "arc of prosperity" – Norway, Ireland and Iceland – which Mr Murphy dubbed the "arc of insolvency".

But the apparently friendly relations on display outside St Andrew's House suggest the Scottish Secretary is managing to maintain a sensible balance between political attack and practical co- operation.

The post of Scottish Secretary was forecast to disappear once devolution had shifted most of the responsibility for affairs north of the Border to the Scottish Parliament – but now the job is more important than ever.

At first, there were tensions between Donald Dewar, who had just moved from being Scottish Secretary to become First Minister, and his successor John Reid. The two men were even said to have come close to fisticuffs at the Labour conference in Bournemouth.

Helen Liddell, who took over from Dr Reid, had a better relationship with the next First Minister, Henry McLeish. But the role itself was called into question after her diary was published showing a three-day week which included three lunches, two dinners, three receptions and time for a French lesson.

After that, the post became a part-time one for Scots already doing another Cabinet job – Alistair Darling and Douglas Alexander each combined it with Transport before Des Browne took it on along with Defence.

This last arrangement, however, proved a mistake, allowing opposition parties to argue that, with British forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, defence should be taking up his full attention. Mr Browne, perhaps unwisely, replied that he looked after Scotland in his spare time.

But with the appointment of Mr Murphy – who had seen the role close up as parliamentary aide to Ms Liddell – the post became full-time again.

The existence of the Scotland Office is still called into question – figures released this week revealed its administration costs have doubled to £7.2 million since devolution.

But there seems little prospect now of the Scottish Secretary's post being merged into a Ministry of the Regions role, as suggested in the past.

As long as the SNP is in power in Scotland, Labour needs a UK minister watching over Holyrood. And the post could prove even more important for the Tories if they win the general election.

David Cameron has pledged he would maintain a "stand-alone" Scottish Secretary. He knows that even if he does become Prime Minister he will have only a handful of Scottish MPs at the most, which puts an immediate question mark over the party's mandate north of the Border.

The SNP would want to be seen to be dealing reasonably with a newly-elected UK Government – but Mr Salmond and his colleagues would not let the Tories forget their lack of a Scottish base.

David Mundell, who would almost certainly become the Tories' Scottish Secretary, would have to adopt the same "working together" slogan as Mr Murphy – but make it even more convincing.





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  • Last Updated: 25 June 2009 9:17 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
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1

Grahamski,

Falkirk 25/06/2009 09:53:33
Good to see Mr Murphy putting the country above petty political point-scoring. Pity our first minister was too petty and parochial to get his photy taken. Probably too busy fulminating at the national library banning face paint....
2

JohnMcDonald,

London 25/06/2009 10:34:10
It doesn't matter what Mr Murphy says or does. He will be gone as Scottish Secretary and maybe as an MP after the next election which might be as early as October.

As for political point scoring, does Murphy's "arc of insolvency" count for or against him? If I was Norwegian, Irish, or even Icelandic I think I would know the answer.

And Grahamski, get a life.


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25/06/2009 10:54:54
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The Master,

25/06/2009 11:29:52
It's good to see that Murphy's been able to put his experience as Europe Minister to good use: it's all too obvious that, unlike Des Browne, he knows how to play the Nats after years of being faced with various European oddballs.

Nationalism is a quirky phenomenon in British politics, but Murphy seems to have called it right by taking a largely conciliatory approach while, at the same time, pouring scorn on some of the more off the wall Nationalist posturing.
5

Queen D,

25/06/2009 11:36:46
I would like to remind all that a very angry Norwegian wrote denying the words put in the mouth of one of Norways representative by the chap in this article regarding Scotland .
He also mentioned an oil fund ,with which Norway weathers the economic storm.
Should you care to read the McCrone report ,published at last, you will see that Scotland would have been in a financially enviable position similar to Norway.

I doubt Mr Murphy will like being reminded of an open letter from one Marc Coleman , thanking him for his erroneous statements on the state of Irelands economy, but the letter will be in cyber space !
6

Arfur,

25/06/2009 11:47:53
"his general approach in dealing with the SNP government has been to talk consensus and promise co-operation"

"he has proved himself an effective operator"

"active involvement in issues of genuine public concern gives him more credibility"

"managing to maintain a sensible balance between political attack and practical co- operation"

Swanson - you are a brown nose and this is the biggest load of tosh i have read in this rag yet. The mans full time job is to get in the way of the SNP no matter what they propose in other words get in the way of Scotland and progress.

Garbage.





7

Grahamski,

Falkirk 25/06/2009 12:55:15
5
"I would like to remind all that a very angry Norwegian wrote denying the words put in the mouth of one of Norways representative by the chap in this article regarding Scotland ."

Err, the Norwegian wrote to The Daily Mail not Mr Murphy. The same Norwegian certainly did mention an oil fund and suggested that those who tried to compare Norway and the UK's oil fund were misguided. That'll be the SNP teh Norwegian meant....
8

TheDisplacedGlaswegian,

25/06/2009 13:41:02
"As long as the SNP is in power in Scotland, Labour needs a UK minister watching over Holyrood. And the post could prove even more important for the Tories if they win the general election."

Murphy does not watch over Holyrood. I've never read such rubbish. The SNP cabinet have invited Murphy to attend some of their their meetings for the greater godo of Scotland.

Does Swanson actually understand politics in Scotland?
9

peter1958,

Glasgow 25/06/2009 13:45:01
Good point Grahamski - as usual.
It was obvious to anyone with eyes that Salmond refused to have his photo taken because his regard for himself is now so stratospheric that he can only be photographed with G8 heads of state (other than G Brown Esq) . A game player above all else, Salmond insists on such meetings taking place but has no interest whatsoever in the outcome.

A point in question was last week's debate demanding Brown resign and call an election. If Brown or Blair had led a Westminster vote demanding Salmond resign or but his own food from now on there would have been complete uproar!

The nat game is put presentation and artifice before policy and substance. Murphy took them up on an opportunity to meet but safe in the knowledge that nat demands for accelerated drawdown of capital budgets and the deferment of account would be the only item on the agenda.

I fear John Swinney will soon be penning another one of his infamous letters. Pathetic.
10

peter1958,

Glasgow 25/06/2009 13:57:17
I wonder if nat demands that supermarkets label items by their colloquial names was discussed?
Or if the Display of Saltire (Desktop & Work Environments) Regulations were aired.
Surely we should be told.
11

Tynietiger,

25/06/2009 14:37:58
Figures buried in the Scotland Office’s Annual Report 2009 reveal that the total administration costs of the department have rocketed from £3.7m in 1999 to £7.2m a year in 2009, despite having virtually nothing to do since devolution (other than pick fights with the Scottish government at taxpayers expense).

“Since devolution the remit of the Scotland Office has shrunk but its budget has spiralled out of control.

The department supposedly stands up for Scotland’s interests in the UK Cabinet but Jim Murphy’s track record to date has been woeful.

The Scotland Office has done nothing to release the £150m of Scotland’s money being held in a Treasury bank account which could be used to support renewable energy development. Nor did it take any action to prevent the UK Government’s potentially devastating cuts to the Scottish Budget in the teeth of a recession.

When the Chancellor launched a disastrous attack on the Scottish whisky industry with a stealth tax hidden deep in his Pre-Budget Report, the Secretary of State for Scotland did not even seem to know about it.
12

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 25/06/2009 15:03:56
I only hope that Murry sent around a bouquet of flowers for Ian and promised to ring him in the morning.
Just close your eyes and think of Britain, this isn't going to hurt a bit.
13

The west awake,

Argyll 25/06/2009 15:25:42
"Mr Browne, perhaps unwisely, replied that he looked after Scotland in his spare time."

- Haven't things changed since May 07?

I wonder why?

I wonder what our next Tory colonial governer will be like. Not that it matters, (one Unionist is as bad as another) we have the SNP putting Scotland first for once.
14

peter1958,

Glasgow 25/06/2009 15:32:00
I find the nat relationship with the Scotland Office quite fascinating. On the one hand they pour scorn and abuse on this veritable old establishment and its office bearers as being redundant colonialist lackeys with no role to play, and yet on the other, crave the attention of Westminster to what they parade as Scotland's ills demanding "something" be done. When Brown responded to assertions that now Scotland had its own government by reducing the role and status of the Scotland Office they immediately accused him of ignoring Scotland and its needs.

If I am correct, Jim Murphy is the very first office holder of the Scotland Office to attend a cabinet meeting of the Scottish Government and in attempting to respond to their demands finds only ridicule heaped upon him for doing so by the nats.

Then again, what value would there be to the nats in agreeing to any role for any office bearer of the Scotland Office or in admitting thst such senior level contact was useful and constructive? None.

What takes place is simply the traditional pantomime posturing of nats whenever the Scotland Office is mentioned.

As for the increase in costs and the lowering of work rate - can the "do nothing" government we now have in place in Scotland really be serious? The budgets available to the nats are the largest they have ever been in the last 10 years and the number of bills before the Scottish Parliament the lowest. The nats are simply spending their time on their own pet projects and charging the bill to the taxpayer. The nationalist conversation is a prime example.
15

Eve,

Scotland 25/06/2009 15:48:03
Dear Scotsman please clear this up, does the following statement mean that David Mundell would be more convincing than Jim or is it the other way round.

Thanks

Eve

"David Mundell, who would almost certainly become the Tories' Scottish Secretary, would have to adopt the same "working together" slogan as Mr Murphy – but make it even more convincing."
16

Marga,

Edinburgh 25/06/2009 15:49:04
What stunningly sycophantic tripe, even for the Scotsman! It has the hallmark of a Murphy briefing.

AND: "As long as the SNP is in power in Scotland, Labour needs a UK minister watching over Holyrood."

How would Boris Johnson like to have a Minister "watching over" London, telling him what to do, inviting the Pope to visit over his head? It's outrageous - Westminster wouldn't dare - and the Scots are expected to accept this?
17

ukrefusenik,

falkirk 25/06/2009 16:04:23
hey ,after too long , i'm back . i'm definately going to try to behave , it was like exile to siberia , all my old chums are here , talking about scottish stuff ,the english rags hated me ,huh, so called liberals , " they dont like it up 'em , captain mainwaring ",not a lot has changed by the looks of it , looks like grahamski is still on the white cider .obviously , i've been reading whats been said ,but its infuriating not being able to comment , i guess i'd been a bad boy , the herald got shut down (NOT my fault ,honest) , punctuation still rubbish . ah for freedom is ane noble thing , being back is to my lyking . guess who ?
18

The west awake,

Argyll 25/06/2009 16:08:07
14 - Tell me Peter, do you honestly believe the previous relationship Scotland had with the UK was healthy and generally good for Scotland?

There was never any friction, never any real disputes, never hardly a raised eyebrow. Why?
Because the Scottish Executive was a purely administrative body with as much influence over the political and economic destiny of Scotland as as my local bowling club.

People like you seem to be OK with that, and indeed often seem to be fearful and resentful of it, but more and more Scots. like me, want change.
You will have to learn to live with that, because it's not going away.
19

BIG EYE,

Paisley 25/06/2009 16:17:25
Labour may think they need Murphy in Scotland.Scotland doesn't!
20

ukrefusenik,

falkirk , looking in the broom closet 25/06/2009 16:20:40
oh yeah , have they found the missing voting records from the Glenrothes by election ? no ? what a very unfortunate time for broon to lose an electoral contest , so of course, against all expectations , he didnt . if he had , nobody on this site would have had to talk about lizard boy again .
21

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 25/06/2009 18:10:52
I think I just called Murphy "Murray". The guy is so pathetic and hopeless that I can't even get his name right.
The old expression "useless as t!ts on a boar" comes quickly to mind.
22

hoblar,

25/06/2009 20:44:12
"And he (Murphy) has proved himself an effective operator, seizing the initiative when he can – by calling summits over the economic situation or funding for the new Forth Road Bridge and even issuing an invitation to the Pope to visit Scotland next year."

Aye, Murphy suggested that Scotland used the discredited PFI system for the Forth bridge and was vehemently opposed to any ability of the Scottish Government to have borrowing powers, when even the dead dodo called Calman Commisision managed to see that need.

very few of the 'cooperative' statements implied by this journalist on behalf of ~Murphy are true, he ahs many many articles over the last year or so where he merely slags off any SNP policy while representing the Westminster's interest and voice in Scotland.

The article failed to mention that rather than "keeping an eye on the Scottish Government" the actual role of the Scottish Office is to be Scotland's voice in westminster.

That political pursuit in the Scottish interest doesn't happen, and this role and office is not worthy of the title 'Scottish' by any stretch of the imagination.

Try watching any Scottish Questions at Westminster that are on the bbciplayer and you will see what Murphy believes his role to be.

What a load of crawling guff this article is,
23

hoblar,

25/06/2009 20:52:15
peter the hellbent unionist supporter: "....the point in question was last week's debate demanding Brown resign and call an election. If Brown or Blair had led a Westminster vote demanding Salmond resign or but his own food from now on there would have been complete uproar!"

Too right, because the Scottish government are popular mate,

They aren't in political freefall like the clownish new labour lot, they haven't given the citizens of these Isles unprecedented debt due to enormous mismanagement of the economy going back years!

Even Brown's OWN Ministers and back benchers wanted rid of him for heavens sake.

So get a grip, Labour and Brown are in massive trouble with the electorate, everybody and their auntie, media, public and even our pets want an election, and the reason it isn't happening is because Brown (with unprecedented unpopularity as a Prime Minister) wants to cling on to power for as long as he can.

The scottish Government are ready for an election anytime, and your arrogance guarantees even more votes than expected going to the SNP if it is a marker for how labour types think.

Ok? lol



lol
24

hoblar,

25/06/2009 21:09:38
a unionist that another unionist says is right 'as usual" opined;

"Err, the Norwegian wrote to The Daily Mail not Mr Murphy."

Actually he was a Norwegian Minister, and the fact of the matter is that he vehemently denied and objected to the politicising of his view on Scotland, a view that Murphy had stated was true at Scottish Questions and in newspapers for short term political gain.

long term political gain in the case of yourself, being a wild eyed labour lover, you appear to have no clue about the truth about Murphy.

Murphy with the jacket swung casually over the shoulder was quite tragic by the way.
25

Alan B,

25/06/2009 22:23:20
#Grahamski

Murphy is a joke figure.

He offers nothing and does nothing for scotland. He is browns poodle.

No wonder labour are in such disarray with such a poor bunch of mps and msps.

Labour really are a clueless bunch.

Maybe if Murphy had got a real job then he could have brought some experience to the role.
26

Alan B,

25/06/2009 22:25:35
Did Murphy's mother write the article. The scotsman is getting worse and worse. Why praise a clueless politician that is failing and bum him up to be something he is not.

The sooner labour and murphy are kicked out the better.
27

Electric Hermit,

25/06/2009 22:54:04
Is Murphy looking for a new job already? Is that why Swanson wrote this smarmy reference for him?

28

ukrefusenik,

bantaskine woods 25/06/2009 22:55:34
look , i am already slowly exquisitely by anticipation , savouring the crestfallen range of expressions that will flit across his reptilian visog . some of them he will attempt to disguise as ironic shrugs , rueful disbelief , cheery stoicism , but we will know , jim . we will know you are eating your guts from the inside , your unionist cockyness crushed by the recognition of your loss of "importance" gee whizz its going to be great , for us , for you jim , its just going to grate , see you at the count !
29

ukrefusenik,

the spanish steps 25/06/2009 23:09:06
boooo , i wanted to invite the pope to visit scotland , long before snake boy did , as usual for unionists the only time they can get good press in the scotsman , is by stealing other peoples original ideas .

 

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